Atlantis në Shqipëri

[Kreksi]

Faza e dyte fillon te ne ne Tiranë pas shume vitesh;


TESTAMENTI I VJETER TE CILIN E ZBERTHEVA DJE NE SHQIP:

=-VIJ A VU EVJA, VUJM !
=- DU U JAV LA MU, ROB UGUR ! (une ua la në sundim Mû trashëgim)

[Kreksi]

Pasi shkatrrohet ky qytetrim fillon edhe perseritet i dyti ndoshta i kushedisa here para tin por rendesi ka kjo per
ne sepse kjo véja kozmike bie te Duresi por sirena del prej veze në Tiaranë ndoshta per ate e quajten "siran" siren" tiranë ?

Edhe testamenti i dyte si pari lexohet shqip;

te shohim njehere se si u fundos edhe atje ne pacifik dhia si ktej ne atlantik ciapi..?

[Kreksi]

[Kreksi]

Pasi që u shkatrruan Cjapi Atlantida dhe Dhia atje në Lindje të Japonis,
Evja (é véja u vesh në të zeza) dhe nga deshprimi që humbi Ciapin e Dhin,
nga dora e majtë e kishte si një Siren, bëri një vejé tjetër dhe e hodhi prej dores nga dora (italia) dhe ra në Deti Adritak, te Durrësi dhe foleja e re u krijua në Tirana, (sirena, tirena, tirana?..) kështu që iu besua këtij populli që ta ruaj këtë vejen e parë, të dyten e bëri në Kret, (Kandia) ..(do ti shihni ilustrimet dhe do te habiteni.. sepse, asnjeri nuk ka deshiren te me ndihmoje rreth ketij zbulimi, disa e quajne edhe fantezi..por ilustrimet mbi vazen Tragliatlla treguan aty se paska kan e vertete kjo ATLANTIDA E JO MIT..por, tani ti khehemi.

TESTAMENTIT TE CIKLIT TE DYTE; qe ne jemi pasardhes !

Gruia e veshun me te zeza "gruzi" pra nga deshprimi qe humbi Cjapin e Dhin atje në Japoni, ia filloi së dyti; beri Vején e parë në Durres e cila u zhvillua pastaj në Tiranë por veja ka ra te Durrësi;

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[2043]

Atlantet kane gjetur vendin me perfekt dhe popullin me perfekt per te fshehur sekretin e tyre.
Vetem shqiptaret do mund ta shikonin me mosbesim kete zbulim. Cdo komb tjeter tashme do e kishte bere histori te xhirros se Botes kete zbulim dhe do krenohej me vendndodhjen e tij.
Greket krijuan nje histori nga hici ndersa ne kemi nje histori per tu patur zili dhe ne vend ta reklamojme e te perpiqemi ta zgjerojme, perkundrazi: denigrojme zbuluesin , tallemi me te dhe e lexojme zbulimin e shekullit si nje perralle per femije.
Bravo Atlanteve qe kane arritur te na njohin se c'mysybeter jemi qe para 26 shekujsh.

[Kreksi]

Fotografit ata me antena po me precjellin dhe si duket nuk po melejojne ti postoj por i kam te gjithat ne fb, ndash besoni ndash mos besoni, une vetem se po e rrefej ngjarjen si asht e shkrueme ne kete ilustrimin mbi vazen Tragiatella dhe asgje nuk po shpiki,e nese kjo vaze eshte fallco une nuk jam fajtor, te gjithe specialistet e e dijetraet e botes m kane kualifikua se kjo vze eshte e shekullit VI para krishti.

Dhe nje gja tjeter ehabitshme; te gjithe keta historian si dhe ma i njohuri i botes Rbert Graves ka thenë se ky viatim është një vallezi grave..si mos te habitemi edh me një gja tjeter se, del një shqiptar nga forumi shqiptar me emrin Kreksi dhe ngritet me kete hipotzen tjeter duke e kundershtua edhe historianin ma te shquar te botes Graves e thotë se; JO KY VIZATIM ASHT TESTAMENTI I ATLANTVE ?
Dhe jo vte kjo por, Kreksi e merrë dhe e rrotullon e zmadhon dhe ne te gjen gerrma rreth e rreth ketij ilustrimi
dh ia nis e deshifron dhe ate shqip si me fol me gjyshin e tij me dialektine dibrnve ?

TESTAMENI thoë kështu; (mund ta verifikoni por une s jam grafist prandaj ketkoj nji vullnetar ketu ne forum qe te me dali ne ndihme ju lutemi se askush s'asht tuj me besue ;

Ju se esoni se u teri ky ilustrim eshte shqip, gerrmat jane te fshehuna atje edhe u nuk kujtohesh, aty psh tek mburojat e ketyre ushtarve shohim gerrmat "M" E, N, kure tek kambët shohim "v" I dhe "J" e "U" te kembet kurse manget jane "J" por duhet me fol shqipen e vjeter dialektoren taman katunare dibrane..

Ate historin e gjate po e le do mirremi vetem me kete vejene dyte qe e polli kjo siren pas fundosjes se Atlantides se pare do thote fndosjes se dy kontinenteve Cjapi ne Alantik e Dhia ne Paqesorin, dhe tani nga trishtimi Sirena ia filloj edhe nje here krijimit te ndertimeve qytetrimeve gjthhere nga dy, interesante, njanen v veje e polli ne Tirane tjetren në Kretë (Kandia) sipas vizatimit, eshte kjo e habtshme se edhe Egjeu ngjason detit te Kins e Japonit dhe atje me siguri polli ne paralele nje qytetrim tjeter parlel te kame, shih foton mire tek kjo e veja (gruaja me te zeza) ne doren e djathte eshte si robot me nje dore metalike kurse ne te majten asht Siren, por, keto imazhe me asht dasht shume koh eme i kuptue dhe kur ekuptova se si asht fshehetesja me ndihmen e PAINT" e kam rrotullua kete " grzezen" "Gruzi" (eshte edhe emri i Gjeorgjise, ju keni me u habit keni me dal meq me kete histori, ketu ka pune me vite ne keto tekste) dhe me ndhmene paint arrijta ta vendosi si duhet, nga e majta e rrotullova imazhin ne tedjathte dhe pash aty se kjo gruzez paka kriijua dy detna qe interesante i perngjan mbi google earte edhe dy liqenjve Prespes dhe Ohrit njesoj si ngjasojne deti Kaspik me detin e Zi, dhe tani perseri fillon nje kataklizm tjeter, ku e shohim se nga lindja vjen nje i huaj, i vehun dhe kjo "gruzeza" e vendos aty ne Taman ne Krime ne detin Azof kete te huaj ose ne Gruzi nuk jam i sigurt por, ketu duhen dy veta ne rrotullime te imazheve dhe eshte inetresante se perpos me imazhe hitoria tregohet edhe me gerrma patja çka me habiti, me se shumti, si ka mundesi kjo qe e kane pare dhe vizatua nga larte imazhin e tokes perfekte njashtiu si asht sot aty ne Atlantk ky cjapi, mund ti shihni imazhet ne fb te grupi (rilindja ilire shqiptare) dhe ne te njajtin ilustrim ne lindje atje ne paqesorin shihet dhija e fundosun njesoj si dhe kjo gruzeza i erngjan me formene saj Kines nejsoj si Ballkanit ne te njajtin imazh, e pabesueshme kjo, vetem intelegjenca e huaj ka mujtur ti beje keto, sepse, kur i shihim mire imazhet, aty kujtojmi ne se asht (luci) por jo, jane antena, si edhe ky si herkuli aty me shkop, apo apolloni, asht gjys njeri (à pollo-niri) ne duar ka antena .; por prbemi asht se askush s asht tiuj me besue dhe nasht, ma mire keshtu se do ishin tranue gjinja..

[Kreksi]

Duhet pranohet se nuk ka pergjigjie ndaj ketyre mistereve pranda edhe anetaret e forumit i kuptoj pse nuk dhan mendime te tyre se ska si te spjegohet kjo, poashtu une vete pasi që isha i pasionuar per piramiden ne Bosnje thoja se eshte ilire pas nje kohe e braktisa kete ide edhe se muret e Daorosonit jane kolosale ku nuk mund ti vemi data kurrsesi tani i afrohem edhe ides së asaj piramides ne visoçica ...por, jam i inetresuar pas ketij ilustrimi mbi vazen Tragiatella, kush e beri kete ilustrim dhe a mos ëshë i rrejshëm ?

Atehere edhe ne qenkemi të rrejshëm mbi këte botë ?

[Kreksi]

Teoria Japoneze e gjuhës së Linearve të Kretes ?

Dikush do të me thoshte, "eja n'veti" se edhe unë para disa vitesh lexoja disa teori rreth Linerave të Kretes në një sit greko-anglez , ku aty diskutohej për gjuhën të cilën flisnin ky popull i Mesdheut dhe në ato debate mes tyre unë lexoja lloj lloj fantezish, thoja veme veti; "po këta na qenkan te çmendur" .. ta ngatronin gjuhën japoneze me gjuhen egjeane qe e kemi edhe ne mu aty para hunde më dukej se ata njerëz aty në atë forum kanë marrë kushedi se çfarë opiumi...!

E sikur ta dinin këta anëtar se, ky ilustrimi mbi kete vazen Tragiatella i pergjgjet pyetjeve te atyre se, vertete paska patur nje i huaj qe paska ikur nga vershimet e medhja me anije dhe kur ka mrri ne detin e zi kjo "zonja me te zeza" "gruzia" ka than atij; "qe, munesh me nxan vend aty ne Gjerogji te sotshme e deri ne Krime" ?

Pastaj, shume shpejt keta "japonezet" prej Gruzisë shkuan dhe krijuan Egjiptin, se, është dokumentua se, te parët ndertuaes të pirmidave egjiptiane ishin aziatikë, njerëz të vegjël"

Dhe, derisa këta pushtuan egjiptin e ndertuan ate atehere do ta kishin pushtua po këta gjeorigjian me origjin japoneze edhe Kreten e gjithë egjeun, keshtu pra edhe shqipja do ti kishte rrenjet edhe gruziane edhe japneze..lol !



Pra histori alternative eshte e rrezikshme se nuk te len ajo miqë afër veti, te gjith te ikin, pastaj edhe ti duhet me shku me iu bashkangjit ose atyre qe po thojne se, "gjuha egjeane eshet japoneze" ose me u kthye mrapa me met si thote ky Robert Graves per ketë vizatim te kesaj vazes se, "eshte valle e grave "gjinikaja" "gjinika" vallje e "grus" e rosave kurse ky imazhi po perputhet plotesishte me ate cjapin qe e pam atje i fundosur nën ujin e Atlantikut dhe ne tjetren ane dhija perputhet me pllaken tjeter te fundosur ne oqeanin paqesore, ku te mbesim ne sot ?

[Kreksi]

Teoria Japoneze e gjuhës së Linearve të Kretes ?

Dikush do të me thoshte, "eja n'veti" se edhe unë para disa vitesh lexoja disa teori rreth Linerave të Kretes në një sit greko-anglez , ku aty diskutohej për gjuhën të cilën flisnin ky popull i Mesdheut dhe në ato debate mes tyre unë lexoja lloj lloj fantezish, thoja veme veti; "po këta na qenkan te çmendur" .. ta ngatronin gjuhën japoneze me gjuhen egjeane qe e kemi edhe ne mu aty para hunde më dukej se ata njerëz aty në atë forum kanë marrë kushedi se çfarë opiumi...!

E sikur ta dinin këta anëtar se, ky ilustrimi mbi kete vazen Tragiatella i pergjgjet pyetjeve te atyre se, vertete paska patur nje i huaj qe paska ikur nga vershimet e medhja me anije dhe kur ka mrri ne detin e zi kjo "zonja me te zeza" "gruzia" ka than atij; "qe, munesh me nxan vend aty ne Gjerogji te sotshme e deri ne Krime" ?

Pastaj, shume shpejt keta "japonezet" prej Gruzisë shkuan dhe krijuan Egjiptin, se, është dokumentua se, te parët ndertuaes të pirmidave egjiptiane ishin aziatikë, njerëz të vegjël"

Dhe, derisa këta pushtuan egjiptin e ndertuan ate atehere do ta kishin pushtua po këta gjeorigjian me origjin japoneze edhe Kreten e gjithë egjeun, keshtu pra edhe shqipja do ti kishte rrenjet edhe gruziane edhe japneze..lol !

Pra histori alternative eshte e rrezikshme se nuk te len ajo miqë afër veti, te gjith te ikin, pastaj edhe ti duhet me shku me iu bashkangjit ose atyre qe po thojne se, "gjuha egjeane eshet japoneze" ose me u kthye mrapa me met si thote ky Robert Graves per ketë vizatim te kesaj vazes se, "eshte valle e grave "gjinikaja" "gjinika" vallje e "grus" e rosave kurse ky imazhi po perputhet plotesishte me ate cjapin qe e pam atje i fundosur nën ujin e Atlantikut dhe ne tjetren ane dhija perputhet me pllaken tjeter te fundosur ne oqeanin paqesore, ku te mbesim ne sot kah t'ia mbajmi ?

Qe pra se ku po du me dal une tek e verteta; nga i ka rrenjet gjuha egjeane, a mund ti kete andej nga i ka edhe shqipja ?
Apo mos anasjelltas, shqipja i ka rrenjet andej nga i ka edhe gjuha egjeane ?

Kurse sot, (edhe pa e ditur fare permbajtjen e ketij ilustrimit mbi kete vazen Tragliatella këa studies e gjuhëtarë kanë ardhur në perfunimin se, gjuha egjeane paska lidhje me gjuhn japoneze, shife tash mbi harta se ku ndoshet sot Japonia e ku është Kreta ?

Në të njajtin perfundim edhe unë erdha dje kur e vuna ne prov kete vizatimin e thjeshtë, pa asnji analize gjuhësore me japonishten qe nuk e njohe fare, por keta studiues gjuhëtare ndoshta edhe kane të drejtë, perndryshe, çka do ti kishte shtye me than se; "gjuha japoneze ka lidhje me gjuhen japoneze ?
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How do you ever find your way into a seemingly closed system like that? A solution took more than half a century to arrive.

In 1952, a young British architect named Michael Ventris did excavate the meaning of Linear B. Ventris fit the model of a solitary, tortured genius: so much so that the decipherment of Linear B has often been portrayed as principally his accomplishment alone.

But, says author Margalit Fox, Ventris built his success on a foundation laid by an American classicist, Alice Kober.

"As is so often the case in women's history," says Fox, "behind this great achievement lay these hours and hours of unseen labor by this unheralded woman."

The Challenge of Linear B

Consider the scale of the problem that Linear B presented. The script was unknown. The language it recorded was unknown. And there was no equivalent to the Rosetta Stone, the bilingual slab that paved the way for the decipherment of the Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs. (None has been found to this day.)

Without such a key, it would take persistent analysis to unpick the door to this locked room.

A writing system is, in essence, a graphic map, with symbols representing sounds in a language. In English, say, a hollow round circle maps the sound 'O': that's it. Every writing system, explains Margalit Fox, uses one of three systems, or a combination:

"There is the logographic system; the best known example is Chinese where a whole character stands for a whole word. Next comes the syllabic system used to write, for instance, Japanese where a character stands for a symbol such as 'ma' or 'ba'. And then finally, familiar to us as English speakers, is the alphabet where characters usually stand for a single sound."

It's rarely clear-cut like that, but that's the general idea. Linear B was very likely a syllabic script: there were about 80 different symbols, right in the range linguists would expect to see in a syllabary.

And there were a few pictographs dotted about: horses and pots. It seemed that the tablets recorded the domestic affairs of the palace in some fashion.

But for thirty years, not much more was known than that. Until Alice Kober came along.

'A Cigarette Burning at Her Elbow'

In the 1930s and 40s, Kober was an assistant professor at Brooklyn College in New York where she taught a full load of classes in Latin and Greek. Kober lived with her widowed mother, and there is no record in her papers of a social or romantic life of any kind.

Instead, for almost two decades Alice Kober pursued the decipherment of this mysterious Bronze Age script.

"She turned herself into the world's leading expert on Linear B," says Margalit Fox, who examined Kober's papers. "It was she who was working hundreds of hours with a slide rule sitting at her dining table in the Flatbush section of Brooklyn at night after her papers were graded, a cigarette burning at her elbow, poring over the few published inscriptions, looking and looking for patterns of repeated symbols in the script."

Margalit Fox says Kober adopted a philosophy of 'form without meaning': she wouldn't make guesses, and she wouldn't ascribe speculative sound values to symbols.

Instead, she set out to record the frequency of every symbol in the tablets, both in general and then in a variety of positions within words: initial, final position, medial, second, and next to last. She also recorded the frequency of every character in juxtaposition to that of every other character.

It was a mammoth task, performed without the aid of computers. In addition, during the years surrounding the Second World War, writing materials were hard to come by. Kober recorded her detailed analysis on index cards she made from the backs of old greetings cards, and the insides of covers of examination books.

"She stole a lot of checkout slips from the Brooklyn College library," adds Margalit Fox. "And all of these she painstakingly cut with scissors, one at a time, until she had something like a 180 thousand cards that she had hand cut."

The Key to Linear B

Kober's monumental effort paid off.

She spotted groups of symbols that appeared throughout the inscriptions, groups that would start the same but end in consistently different ways.

That was the breakthrough: Kober now knew that Linear B was an inflected language, with word endings that shifted according to use.

In English, for instance, you get words like sing, singer, and singing. Remember: Linear B is syllabic: each symbol contains a consonant and a vowel, like 'ti' or 'mi' or 'ni'.

Some symbols would start or end the same way in that they'd share a consonant, or a vowel. Today know that 'ti', 'mi' and 'ni' are sounds in Linear B. But Kober was able plot the relationships between symbols on a grid before any of the sounds were known.

Alice Kober was on the verge of deciphering Linear B.

But before she could add sounds to her grid of symbols, she fell ill and died. It was 1950; she was 43. Still, she left behind a sturdy bridge for others to cross. And in 1952, Michael Ventris did.

Filling in the Blanks

Talking to BBC Radio in the wake of his successful decipherment of Linear B, Ventris said, "It's rather like doing a crossword puzzle on which the positions of the black squares haven't been printed for you."

Ventris built out Kober's grids as much as possible, and then added his own brilliance to the mix.

He wondered about the repeated groups of symbols identified by Kober as evidence of inflection. What if they stood for the names of towns in Crete? What if they worked the same way as, say, the words Brooklyn and Brooklynite?

Places names are exactly the kinds of thing you'd expect to crop up all the time, especially on official palace documents. (Think of how often your own city or town name appears on any official paperwork.)

And place names often don't change much, even after centuries. Ventris examined three Cretan names, including Knossos. In the syllabic form of Linear B it became "ko-no-so".

The script began to talk.

Decipherment

With a few names, Ventris could now add sounds to the grids of symbols begun by Alice Kober. That allowed him to sound out other words in the inscriptions.

Linear B, it turned out, was a form of ancient Greek.

"No-one knew that Greek speakers even existed that far back," says author Margalit Fox, "so it barely crossed anyone's mind that the script could be Greek. And even if Greek speakers had existed that far back the thinking was that without the Greek alphabet, which was centuries in the future, they would have had no way to write their language down. So Greek was ruled out as a possibility very, very early."

The cracking of Linear B transformed that understanding.

The theory now is that colonizing Greeks arrived on Crete from the mainland and appropriated an indigenous writing system to record their own language, creating Linear B.

And that older Cretan writing system? Some of that was found at Knossos too.
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"While the Linear A tablets record a language that is almost certainly not ... Some languages, like modern Japanese"

" Writing systems that use syllabaries include modern Japanese, Cherokee, the ancient Cretan scripts ( Linear A, Linear B)"
"How an American Linguist Helped Unlock the Secrets of Linear B"
How do you ever find your way into a seemingly closed system like that? A solution took more than half a century to arrive.

In 1952, a young British architect named Michael Ventris did excavate the meaning of Linear B. Ventris fit the model of a solitary, tortured genius: so much so that the decipherment of Linear B has often been portrayed as principally his accomplishment alone.

But, says author Margalit Fox, Ventris built his success on a foundation laid by an American classicist, Alice Kober.

"As is so often the case in women's history," says Fox, "behind this great achievement lay these hours and hours of unseen labor by this unheralded woman."

The Challenge of Linear B

Consider the scale of the problem that Linear B presented. The script was unknown. The language it recorded was unknown. And there was no equivalent to the Rosetta Stone, the bilingual slab that paved the way for the decipherment of the Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs. (None has been found to this day.)

Without such a key, it would take persistent analysis to unpick the door to this locked room.

A writing system is, in essence, a graphic map, with symbols representing sounds in a language. In English, say, a hollow round circle maps the sound 'O': that's it. Every writing system, explains Margalit Fox, uses one of three systems, or a combination:

"There is the logographic system; the best known example is Chinese where a whole character stands for a whole word. Next comes the syllabic system used to write, for instance, Japanese where a character stands for a symbol such as 'ma' or 'ba'. And then finally, familiar to us as English speakers, is the alphabet where characters usually stand for a single sound."

It's rarely clear-cut like that, but that's the general idea. Linear B was very likely a syllabic script: there were about 80 different symbols, right in the range linguists would expect to see in a syllabary.

And there were a few pictographs dotted about: horses and pots. It seemed that the tablets recorded the domestic affairs of the palace in some fashion.

But for thirty years, not much more was known than that. Until Alice Kober came along.

'A Cigarette Burning at Her Elbow'

In the 1930s and 40s, Kober was an assistant professor at Brooklyn College in New York where she taught a full load of classes in Latin and Greek. Kober lived with her widowed mother, and there is no record in her papers of a social or romantic life of any kind.

Instead, for almost two decades Alice Kober pursued the decipherment of this mysterious Bronze Age script.

"She turned herself into the world's leading expert on Linear B," says Margalit Fox, who examined Kober's papers. "It was she who was working hundreds of hours with a slide rule sitting at her dining table in the Flatbush section of Brooklyn at night after her papers were graded, a cigarette burning at her elbow, poring over the few published inscriptions, looking and looking for patterns of repeated symbols in the script."

Margalit Fox says Kober adopted a philosophy of 'form without meaning': she wouldn't make guesses, and she wouldn't ascribe speculative sound values to symbols.

Instead, she set out to record the frequency of every symbol in the tablets, both in general and then in a variety of positions within words: initial, final position, medial, second, and next to last. She also recorded the frequency of every character in juxtaposition to that of every other character.

It was a mammoth task, performed without the aid of computers. In addition, during the years surrounding the Second World War, writing materials were hard to come by. Kober recorded her detailed analysis on index cards she made from the backs of old greetings cards, and the insides of covers of examination books.

"She stole a lot of checkout slips from the Brooklyn College library," adds Margalit Fox. "And all of these she painstakingly cut with scissors, one at a time, until she had something like a 180 thousand cards that she had hand cut."

The Key to Linear B

Kober's monumental effort paid off.

She spotted groups of symbols that appeared throughout the inscriptions, groups that would start the same but end in consistently different ways.

That was the breakthrough: Kober now knew that Linear B was an inflected language, with word endings that shifted according to use.

In English, for instance, you get words like sing, singer, and singing. Remember: Linear B is syllabic: each symbol contains a consonant and a vowel, like 'ti' or 'mi' or 'ni'.

Some symbols would start or end the same way in that they'd share a consonant, or a vowel. Today know that 'ti', 'mi' and 'ni' are sounds in Linear B. But Kober was able plot the relationships between symbols on a grid before any of the sounds were known.

Alice Kober was on the verge of deciphering Linear B.

But before she could add sounds to her grid of symbols, she fell ill and died. It was 1950; she was 43. Still, she left behind a sturdy bridge for others to cross. And in 1952, Michael Ventris did.

Filling in the Blanks

Talking to BBC Radio in the wake of his successful decipherment of Linear B, Ventris said, "It's rather like doing a crossword puzzle on which the positions of the black squares haven't been printed for you."

Ventris built out Kober's grids as much as possible, and then added his own brilliance to the mix.

He wondered about the repeated groups of symbols identified by Kober as evidence of inflection. What if they stood for the names of towns in Crete? What if they worked the same way as, say, the words Brooklyn and Brooklynite?

Places names are exactly the kinds of thing you'd expect to crop up all the time, especially on official palace documents. (Think of how often your own city or town name appears on any official paperwork.)

And place names often don't change much, even after centuries. Ventris examined three Cretan names, including Knossos. In the syllabic form of Linear B it became "ko-no-so"

The script began to talk.

Decipherment

With a few names, Ventris could now add sounds to the grids of symbols begun by Alice Kober. That allowed him to sound out other words in the inscriptions.

Linear B, it turned out, was a form of ancient Greek.

"No-one knew that Greek speakers even existed that far back," says author Margalit Fox, "so it barely crossed anyone's mind that the script could be Greek. And even if Greek speakers had existed that far back the thinking was that without the Greek alphabet, which was centuries in the future, they would have had no way to write their language down. So Greek was ruled out as a possibility very, very early."

The cracking of Linear B transformed that understanding.

The theory now is that colonizing Greeks arrived on Crete from the mainland and appropriated an indigenous writing system to record their own language, creating Linear B.

And that older Cretan writing system?

Some of that was found at Knossos too.
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Shifeni tani se si i erdhi rradha qe edhe një vizatim aqë i thjeshtë i kësaj vaze po e konfirmon këtë teorin se, në një kohë të lashtë i gjithe egjeu paska folur japonishtë.. lol ! hec e mos te habitemi me fshehtesit e kesaj botes ?

[SERAFIM DILO]

O Kreks, teorikisht, kjo vazo eshte afersisht 9000 vjet mbrapa Atlantides. Pra, ka pothuajse afersisht te njejten propabilitet qe te kete te njejten kuptim me nje vazo te diteve te sotme. Eshte sikur teoria jote duhet te meret per baze mbas 9000 mije vitesh.