E drejta e autorit

[MaDaBeR]

Pershendetje te gjitheve.

Une jam nje frekuentues i rregullt i FSH e gjithashtu jam lexues i rregullt i shtypit te dites ne Shqiperi. Lexoj disa nga gazetat kryesore te vendit, si sportive ashtu dhe politiko-informative.

Ajo qe kam vene re eshte se 2-3 shkrime te miat autentike ne kete forum i gjej si artikuj neper gazeta. Ajo qe me shqeteson nuk eshte se kjo ka ndodhur me shkrimet e mia, por gjate leximit te shtypit verej dhe disa nga shkrimet e anetareve te ketij forumi qe "vidhen" nga gazetare te ndryshem apo nga individe qe mund te dergojne nje shkrim ne gazete. Mendoj se nuk eshte e drejte qe shkrimet autentike te anetareve te ketij forumi te "vidhen" ne menyre te tille, kur ne si anetare, kur marim nje shkrim te nje gazete i veme titullin e gazetes poshte dhe gjithashtu shkruajme dhe emrin e gazetarit perkates.

Mendoj qe Admin/Smod te benin te munduur qe mos te beheshin Copy shkrimet e ketij forumi. Duhet te kete ndonje program qe te mundesoje diçka te tille. Kjo do ishte me e pakta qe mund te behej. Gjithashtu, mund te meret dhe ndonje mase tjeter ne kete drejtim.

Me respekt,
MaDaBeR

[Baptist]

Kjo lloj vjedhjeje; sepse as plagiat nuk mund te quhet; kur ne (pothuaj) te gjithe shkruajme me pseudonime, -eshte akoma me i rende se plagiati i rendomte, pasi plagiatit mund t'i gjindet identiteti i autorit, kurse ketij jo!

Pra njerezit qe shkruajne gjera me vlere ketu dhe qe kete e bejne falas e per hater te miresise se tyre me te virgjer, pra ne anonimitet te plote, qe do te thote ne mungese te plote te cdo lloj kompenzimi, madje as atij moral - eshte krim shume me i rende se kur merr dikush dhe ben plagiature te nje libri te botuar komercialisht nga dikush me nam.

Nje gje eshte e ditur paraprakisht: -Nuk mund ta pengosh aktin e vjedhjes se krijimeve te publikuara. Cdo kush madje edhe te paregjistruarit kane mundesi te kopjojne te dhenat qe jane vene ketu vullnetarisht dhe t'i perdorin si t'ua doje qefi. Por megjithate ekzistojne mundesi tjera te cilat mund ta permiresojne deri diku kete gjendje plotesisht te pambrojtur te prones intelektuale. Ndonese parandalim nuk mund te behet mund te behet dicka qe do ta motivonte ate si mekanizem moral i parandalimit.

E ajo eshte publikimi i emrave te plagiatoreve bashk me artikullin dhe origjinalin e vjedhur se pari ketu ne forum -pastaj gjerat hecin vet... E vertete eshte, se ai mund te ndiqet edhe me ligj, dhe po u ndoq si duhet do ta paguaj denimin. Ne cilindo rast, nje gje e tille do ta komprometonte aq sa te humbte edhe vendin e punes si gazetar apo cfaredo qofte profesioni i tij.

Une per vete nuk jam lexues i shtypit dhe nuk mund ta di sa te shpeshta jane keto shemti, por me keqardhje, edhe nje here me duhet ta pranoj se nuk mund ta parandalojme (fizikisht) teknikisht vjedhjen literale te publikimeve ne FSH.

Por sa per fillim mund t'i bejme "perralle" ata. Ndersa me kohe edhe t'i padisim konkretisht redaksite qe botojne kata artikuj. Nejse per kete pjese te hollesive mund te konsultohemi ne ndonje jurist qe e kemi kolege ketu...

Sidoqofte zgjidhje ka. Nuk ekziston situate pa zgjidhje; pa zgjidhje jane vetem historite. Ato kane ndodhur vecme nuk kane si te zgjidhen pastaj. Por kjo situate ekzistuese me pak angazhim mund te behet pak me e volitshme besoj...

Pershendetje dhe komplimente per temen.

[land]

Vjedhja e shkrimeve eshte nje problem i veshtire i cili nuk mund te eleminohet,sic e thote dhe baptist ne forumin shqiptar shkruhet me pseudonim,ne jemi te gjithe anonime,dhe vjedhja e shkrimeve do vazhdoje gjithmone.

[D@mian]

Pershendetje te gjitheve.

Une jam nje frekuentues i rregullt i FSH e gjithashtu jam lexues i rregullt i shtypit te dites ne Shqiperi. Lexoj disa nga gazetat kryesore te vendit, si sportive ashtu dhe politiko-informative.

Ajo qe kam vene re eshte se 2-3 shkrime te miat autentike ne kete forum i gjej si artikuj neper gazeta. Ajo qe me shqeteson nuk eshte se kjo ka ndodhur me shkrimet e mia, por gjate leximit te shtypit verej dhe disa nga shkrimet e anetareve te ketij forumi qe "vidhen" nga gazetare te ndryshem apo nga individe qe mund te dergojne nje shkrim ne gazete. Mendoj se nuk eshte e drejte qe shkrimet autentike te anetareve te ketij forumi te "vidhen" ne menyre te tille, kur ne si anetare, kur marim nje shkrim te nje gazete i veme titullin e gazetes poshte dhe gjithashtu shkruajme dhe emrin e gazetarit perkates.

Mendoj qe Admin/Smod te benin te munduur qe mos te beheshin Copy shkrimet e ketij forumi. Duhet te kete ndonje program qe te mundesoje diçka te tille. Kjo do ishte me e pakta qe mund te behej. Gjithashtu, mund te meret dhe ndonje mase tjeter ne kete drejtim.

Me respekt,
MaDaBeR

Nqs beson se te eshte pervetesuar postim nga forumi, te lutem paraqit nje link te postimit dhe nje te artikullit ne gazete qe te krahasojme datat.

[brooklyn2007]

Teme interesante. Nje menyre e mire per te parandaluar sadopak plagjaturen ndaj materialeve te FSH eshte vendosja e opsioneve teknike qe bejne te mundur heqjen e mundesise se komandes COPY ne faqen e FSH. Kam vizituar mjaft faqe interneti dhe qe e kam pasur te pamundur te kopjoja dicka pasi komanda COPY me dilte e caktivizuar. Mendoj se per kete gje me shume mund te flasin vete administratoret pasi duhet te jene me ne dijeni te detajeve.

[Erlebnisse]

Me cudit ky fakt nqs eshte i vertete, se cfare gazetaresh mund te quhen ata njerez qe vjedhin mendimet e te tjereve neper forume: Nuk e di, pa pike pergjegjesie punojne keta lloje personash vallaj.

[Darius]

Vjedhja e shkrimeve eshte nje problem i veshtire i cili nuk mund te eleminohet,sic e thote dhe baptist ne forumin shqiptar shkruhet me pseudonim,ne jemi te gjithe anonime,dhe vjedhja e shkrimeve do vazhdoje gjithmone.

KJo qe thua ti nuk eshte aspak e vertete. Ndonese eshte internet dhe personat mbeten anonim (sipas deshires) edhe ketu funksionojne ligje nderkombetare madje shume te forta mbi te drejten e autorit. Bej pjese ne nje forum shume te madh amerikan (me sakte nga e gjithe bota) ku cdo shkrim ne fund ka shenjen e copyright dhe mbrohet sipas ligjeve qe permenda me siper. Albasoul eshte korporate dhe jo thjesht nje forum. Eshte subjekt i rregjistruar nga pronari i saj dhe si i tille mbrohet me ligj per cdo dhunim qe mund te behet. Per te mbrojtur kete te drejte ka menyra te ndryshme si ajo qe quhet birchtree ose Creative Commons Legal Code sipas te ciles autoresia behet e qarte qe eshte me te drejte dhe mund te huazohet dhe perdoret neper faqet e tjera por gjithmone duke respektuar te drejten e autorit. Pra e thene ndryshe e shoqeruar nga emri i autorit dhe vendi se ku eshte marre. Kjo vlen jo vetem per shkrimet kreative por edhe perkthimet. Ja po paraqes sa per ilustrim licencen e kodit legal e cila eshte ne anglisht:

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Ne fund te cdo shkrimi mund te kete nje vend ku te klikosh dhe qe te con tek pjesa e mesiperme sa per te te kujtuar te drejtat e autoresise. Mund te jete nje dicka e tille ose dhe ndryshe, forma dhe pamja ska rendesi. Pra shkrimet mbrohen padyshim nen keto restriksione si dhe ne forma te tjera.

[_SheJtaNia_]

Albasoul eshte korporate dhe jo thjesht nje forum. Eshte subjekt i rregjistruar nga pronari i saj

Darius, kam shume respekt per ty por me duket se kjo me lart e cituar eshte shume e eksagjeruar. Te thuash korporate dhe person juridik eshte si nata me diten. Me fal per kete nderhyrje

[Darius]

Fol me pronarin e ketij forumi se ta sqaron ai me mire

[Baptist]

Darius, perandori dioklecian e aq me pak une nuk po thoja "se nuk mund te paditen" por "se nuk mund te parandalohet". Aq me pak me metoda teknike kunder kopjimet e gjera te tilla qe vetem mund ta bejne forumin inaksesibil dhe te shkaktojme shume probleme e frustrime te vizitoret pa mudnesine e parandalimit te kopjimit. Sepse per kete duhet ndaoluar edhe leximi. Kurse ai qe lexon di edhe te pershkruaj etj.

Prona intelektuale mbetet prone intelektuale gjithehere dhe ka nje seri ligjesh nderkombetare qe e mbrojne ate.

Idea eshte se si te ekspozojme keto plagiate qe rrjedhin nga forumi ne boten publicistike dhe shiten me autorsi te rrejshme? Si te paguhet demi i tille ose si te behet cdemtimi i ndonje anteari qe vertete mendon se eshte demtuar me kete rast. Autori i shkrimit origjinal mund te jete me banim jashte viseve e vendeve ku shitet e lexohet ai shtyp dhe te mos e dije kurre se dikush ka nxjerrur meditjet e veta me me djerse te tij.

Pra nje nder hapat e pare dhe te rendesishme do te ishte qe lexuesit e forumit qe percjellin shtypin dhe mediat ti paraqesin ato ne forum pastaj hapat e metejme le te merren ose te lihen ne doren e autorit dhe si ti pelqeje atij. Te ndjek ndonje porcedure apo t'ia fale pune per te.

Dhe gjithesesi qe vlene edhe per perkthimet. Ajo eshte plotesisht e pamohueshme sepse edhe perkthimi eshte autorsi me vete e nje kategorie tjeter. Ti psh ke perkthyer mjaft artikuj nga libra te ndryshem qe gjinden te gatshem ne forum madje edhe ilistrimet percjellese plagiatori i ka nje klik larg copu-paste. Athua s'do te te vinte pak merzi t'i lexosh neser keto nen firmen e ndonje gazetari x. y. apo ndoshta edhe shkrimtari?! Sigurisht qe po. Por ty ta zeme mund te te mos bjere ne dore kurre ai publikim dhe te mos e dish gjithe jeten se dikush ka shitur libra te djerses tende ne emrin e vet.

Ky mendoj une eshte thelbi i problemit ndaj te cilit une vej akcent. Vjedhja e cilesdo natyre "*ndalohet me ligj" por nuk mund te parandalohet. Autore te ndryshem vazhdojne te vjedhin ku te gjejne..., por esht informata dhe evidentimi i vjedhjes konkrete e jo te thuhet mua me kane vjdhur nja dy tri here valla. Por te sillen ato materiale si deshmi. Kuptohet ka shkrime qe vlera e tyre qendron ne koncept pra ne origjinalitetin e menyres se te menduarit qe nuk eshte njohur me pare, forma te reja te trajtimit qe nuk jane njohur me pare e ku ta di une keto pavarsisht perputhjes se fjalive te permbajtjes jane vjedhje. etj.

Te na leje raportuesi mundesine ta gjykojme ne ate nese eshte plagiat apo jo ekmr.
Une per vete kam pare nje emision Shqip i cili komplet konceptin e debatit e kishte vjedhur nga nje teme e jona vjet keso kohe. Fatkeqsisht permbajtja e tij u tregua se paku 30% me e vobekte dhe me e dobte se ajo e postimeve ketu ne forum.

Ne kemi tre-kater anetare te top-it ketu qe s'ia kepusin gjithe diten monitoringut te postimeve e temave per te plaguar ndonje ide te re per perfitimet e tyre.

Une vet e di se me teper me shikon mua TOP-i se une ate. Por ky nuk eshte faji im. ( nejse po e kuptoni shakane dhe cfare dua te them) Replikimi i shkrimeve '?me vlere' te gjetura ketu ne forum dhe publikimi apo perndarja e tyre neper media duke cekur burimin edhe kur ai eshte anonim eshte pikerisht ndoshta edhe deshire dhe vullnet i autorit qene filim por keqperdorimi i tyre per perfitime te autoreve te ndryshme qe paguhen majem nga mediat e shkruara madje edhe difuzive eshte krim qe dikush nga autoret nuk do ta lejonte apo jo?

Pra po nuk e diti autori se e kane plackitur asgje askujte si dihet gje dhe s'ka ndodhur gje...

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*ndalohet me ligj - keqperdorim i yni i rendomte i fjales ne kuptimin sankcionohet me ligj.