Veliaj: Washingtoni nuk duhet të gënjehet nga pritja shqiptare e Bush

[someone]

Une s'para postoj por sot pashe nje artikull qe me beri te shkruaj ketu.

Kisha shume respekt per Mjaft! por mesa shoh, s'eshte gje tjeter vetem nje organizate qe i sherben ambicieve personale te Erion Veliajt.

Shikoni se cfare shkruan bukuroshi:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/erion-...f_b_53869.html

Mua nuk me behet vone se po kritikon qeverine, se c'do qeveri ne Shqiperi nje m*t eshte, por pse duhet qe te ekzagjeroje dhe ta publikoje kete gje ne nje botim te huaj. Dhe pastaj themi ne shqiptaret pse kemi marre nam te keq. S'na e ka fajin bota, por fajin e kemi vete qe shkruajme pallavra si puna ketij gjysmes ketu. Shikojeni se c'shkruan: "Today's Albania is the closest European resemblance to Hugo Chavez's Venezuela." Po re idiot, Shqiperia eshte tamam si Venezuela. Edhe nqs se Shqiperia eshte vertet kaq keq sa c'e pershkruan ky, ku dolem ne me te keqijte ne Europe. Ku e harroi ky Bjellorusine apo Rusine apo Moldavine?

Po prisni s'kemi dale akoma te me e bukura. I zgjuari Veliaj:
"In 1996-97, a string of fraudulent pyramid investment schemes collapsed, bilking tens of thousands of people out of their lives' savings. They took to the streets and demanded his resignation, but not before they raided the country's armories. Many of these weapons they looted eventually wound up across the border in Kosovo, provoking yet another war in the former Yugoslavia -- stopped only by a $45 billion NATO intervention. Exactly what the US wanted to avoid happened."

Une asnjehere nuk do te them qe ajo qe ndodhi ne 1997 ishte positive, por ama ky idioti na del me ide anti-shqiptare . Te gjithe e dime qe lufta ne Kosove e furnizua me arme nga Shqiperia dhe te gjithe e quajme ate dicka positive, pervec serbo-filit Veliaj. Sipas ketij lufta qe nisi ne Kosove ishte gje e keqe. Po pse re mendon ti se nqs lufta ne Kosove nuk do te kishte nisur atehere Kosova sot do ishte prane pavarsise? Kosova sot do te ishte njesoj sic ishte ne 1996 nqs s'do ishte kryengritur. Vetem nje anti-shqiptar mund te shkruaje gjera te tilla. Nqs s'do e kisha pare kush ishte autori, do te kisha qene i sigurte qe ndonje sllav a grek do e kishte shkruar kete. Dhe pastaj na thuhet qe Mjaft! eshte per mbrotjen e qytetareve shqiptare.

Kjo eshte tamam si puna e TopChannel dhe News24 qe "zbuluan" se Bushit ju vodh ora ne Fushe Kruje dhe qe turperuan te gjithe shqiptaret me ato reportazhe sensacionale. Sic tregojne pamjet filmike (plaku.com), oren Bushi e hoqi vete. Po lajmi u dha se i a vodhen dhe kujt po i behej vone se shqiptaret u pasqyruan si hajdute kur kjo s'ishte e vertete. Shqiptaret ja bejne vete gropen vetes.

[vagabondo_nyc]

Some1 me te thene te drejten pajtohem me mendimin tend. Personalisht cdo shqiptar qe mundohet te fitoje kredit nga te huajt duke vene poshte kombin shqiptar per mua eshte zero me bisht.

Ka gjete kishe me u fal ky te ajo huffington qe une e urrej ne kulm. Nje pro sllave e mallkuar. Cne ky qe shkru ktu? Kush e msoi i her noi liberal ktu qe jane kunder Bushit? apo ene ky mundohet me hy ne rangun e burrave te rende qe shkuajne ke faqja e asaj.

Ku ka ze nuk eshte pa gje. Ky Veliaj nuk eshte se ra nga qielli ene do e shpetonte Shqiperine. Pak nga pak u dogj ene ky si karte. Mire u dogj

[skampin]

un mendoj ne pedet nuk kane kombesi, keshtu edhe puna e velos

[elen]

[QUOTE=someone]Une s'para postoj por sot pashe nje artikull qe me beri te shkruaj ketu.

ate "s para " c e deshe .....ti s poston fare.

Ariana Huffington eshte puro greke ka lindur ne Greqi dhe ka stjuduar ne Angli ,tani c ne me interesat e sllaveve .....???

[JestersWorld]

Me cfare syri i lexoni artikujt ju mer jahu ????

This is not the first time Berisha has acted to curtail fundamental democratic freedoms in Albania. In the 1990s, he was our president (politicians in this part of the world don't retire -- they reincarnate) and he proved very adept at jailing his political opponents, shutting down newspapers and stacking the security services with party loyalists.

Back then, Washington viewed Albania as critical in its effort to contain the conflict in the former Yugoslavia by putting a lid on Albanian support for their restive brethren across the border in Kosovo. So long as Berisha did not fan the flames of nationalism, Washington turned a blind eye to his autocratic tendencies.

This policy came back to bite the United States, however, because Berisha's government became so corrupt and abusive, that it eventually imploded. In 1996-97, a string of fraudulent pyramid investment schemes collapsed, bilking tens of thousands of people out of their lives' savings. They took to the streets and demanded his resignation, but not before they raided the country's armories. Many of these weapons they looted eventually wound up across the border in Kosovo, provoking yet another war in the former Yugoslavia -- stopped only by a $45 billion NATO intervention. Exactly what the US wanted to avoid happened.

Washington learned the hard way what the costs are of turning a blind eye to corruption and human rights abuses. America should be reminded of its past mistakes. We Albanians would be grateful if Washington would remember the principles and values that so many of us have come to admire about the United States of America.

Po ben nje liidhje te sistemit Berishian te viteve '90 me faktin pse nuk u ngrit me pare kosova etj etj etj .

Dhe pse formuluar dobet ne disa pika ( ku mund te lindin keqkuptime pastaj) Ajo qe ka dashur te thote ky djale eshte e kunderta e asaj qe keni kuptuar ju.

Nuk eshte ERion Vehliaj as Serb e as Grek. AS Socialist e as Demokrat.

Kur isht PS ne pushtet ngelen duke e share te gjithe te djathte; Tani qe eshte PD po e shajne komunist.

Te rinj si Erion Vehliaj i duhen me shume Shqiperise. Te ishin te gjithe si ai, nuk do ishim ketu ku jemi.

[JestersWorld]

Ja dhe pergjigjia sqaruese E Erit per ata qe nuk dine te lexojne e qe fillojne te keqkuptojne shkrime e te shpallin dike si antishqiptar vetem se i shau Berishen.

Dear cyber-patriots,

As the author of the article, I felt compelled to write a brief response to your comments.

If i've learned one thing about living in the US, is how amercans'sense of self-criticism hsa been a driving force for progress. Sure, image repair for Albania is a dire need - i've felt it from the US, Africa and Latin America. But, as for any product, wrapping alone is not enough, there has to be some substance to selling this new image of Albania. Pumping patriotic horns simply doesn't cut it for the modern day and age.

I argue that Albanian's sentiments for the USA have nothing to do with the respective premiers, but are forged through a bond amongst peoples, and our historic gratitude to the US is far and beyond gestures of convenience between politicians. What's wrong there?

How does this hurt Kosova and national unity, i couldn't quite get it. Now, everybody does their share, and i believe we at MJAFT have done ours. Many of us worked with refugees at the border, helped the relief efforts in Kosova proper in 1999-2001, and are still working with civic movements there to attempt to accelerate the process of independence and keep Kosova intact. Which unity is this hurting? Shouldn't we in Albania fix things here first, before trying to 'export' our despotic regime elswehwere? My friends in Kosova who try to do politics would be doomed if Nano and Berisha were their role-models to follow in the new state.

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I can't comment on UDB, communist, serbs, greeks and all that nonesense - the unfortunate thing about many of us Albanians is that we're too busy fighting with ghosts. Because, if you Mjolti truly cared about Greek violence, you should have joined one of the MJAFT protests in Tirana, Fier, London about the incident - or better even organize a protest yourself wherever you live, or call your congressman, or call to the Helsinki Committee in Congress. (where MJAFT has testified agains another appalling premier named Fatos Nano). Now, this would be patriotitc wouldn't it Mjolti? And yes Valerie, i too can't wait to be Mjaft-ed out, as I feel rather exhausted fighting it out with a few committed colleagues who left their cozy NY apartments to deal with the Berisha's and Nano's of Albania. But that would mean that, you Valerie, and others who disagree, actually DO return to Albania, and bring your better and brighter ideas, to not only boot us out, but most importantly to work on the ground so that fundamental rights are respected and concrete progress is achieved - only then will you have a good story to sell for Albania. And then, you may realize that shooting the messenger and cyber-nationalism may not quite be the most effective ways to generate change.
Last, my email erionveliaj@mjaft.org may be a better way to redirect hate speech and paranoia. This way we spare western readers from more nasty 'image of albania' rhetoric, where folks are vilified for standing up for any principle.
Cheers,
Erion Veliaj

[drity]

Many of these weapons they looted eventually wound up across the border in Kosovo, provoking yet another war in the former Yugoslavia --

Dikush duhet ti shpjegoje Erion Vehliaj arsyet e verteta te luftes ne Kosove.

[XX22]

People ju duhet ti shikoni gjerat me largpamesi,sepse nuk mund ti themi gjerat te gjitha qe dime kuptoni ketu ne forume.Erion Velia erdhi me nje mision ne Shqiperi nga vendi ku studioi per vite te tera dhe iu dha dhe cmim nderi.Mbasi kaloi disa stade ketu dhe iu dhane idete e duhura per te bere kete mision ai u nis drejt vendlindjes pa humbur kohe.Nuk i ka shkuar mendja askujt se ku i gjen Velia milionat per te mbajtur frzmen dhe te tjeret qe i vijne nga mbrapa?Nuk kam se si ta shpjegoj me mire pasi kam frike se flas edhe shume dhe nuk duhet me fol shuma hapur kohet e fundit lol.S[kemi c[bejme jemi si ne kohen e xhaxhit ku edhe muret kane vesh lol.Po misioni i tij eshte i tille per te demaskuar cilendo qeveri qe vjen etj etj etj sepse ka shume pika aty brenda.

[D&G Feminine]

Dikush duhet ti shpjegoje Erion Vehliaj arsyet e verteta te luftes ne Kosove.

aty eshte thelbi! Le ta shaje Berishen sa te doje, meqe eshte opozitar, po si ia nxe goja te thote qe lufta e Kosoves erdhi si pasoje e 97 dhe shperthimit te depove.

[Hyllien]

Ky eshte nje plere e degjeneruar qe duhet zhdukur pa na u bere nje Sali apo Fatos i trete.

[Zemrushja]

Erion Veliaj ne fillimet e tij te shoqates Mjaft ka bere nje pune shume te mire, derisa fitoi nje popullaritet te madh "pas vetes" dhe me pas i ra me shkelm..

Si i ben leket Veliaj? Nje nga rruget per keto lek eshte bashkepunimi me avokatet per te dhene "ndihmen e paguar" disa shqiptareve ne USA. Si? Duke i bere pjese te shoqates Mjaft dhe duke fallsifikuar dokumenta qe ja kta kane qene te perndjekur politike, apo i kane kerkuar kto goca/femra per prostitucion. Avokati e njef si organizate edhe eshte me e lehte te fitosh dokumeta ne kete menyre.. (te pakten ka qene)..

[FeeZee]

Veq forma qysh e ka drejtu letren nuk po ka peshe si shkrim krejt shka paska shkru ky djaloshi...

Cileve cyber patrioteve iu ka drejtu?
edhe pse nuk ia ka shkruar Shqiptareve ne shqip, por ka pas pretendime me u tregu smart ass para botes, apo atyre qe e paguajn!

Keshtu qe edhe une ia kisha qu 1 porosi ati Erit...

Dear international patriot,

You sucks brother, if you want to live as an Albanian, try to communicate with them in their mother tongue; otherwise you aren’t one of ours.

This time as a brother,

FeeZee

[xhori]

dembelat ne shqiperi mendojne qe te bejne nga nje parti dhe nga nje levizje
si kjo mjaft na can veshet populli do zgjidhje dhe jo llafe

[albunkers]

mjaft duhet t'i themi kti erionit,,, qe nuk mjaftohet me sha qeverine,, po don me na sha edhe si komb....
ptu.... turp te kesh.... apo harrova ai preferon ti them.... shame on you

[Albo]

Po t'ia kishit vene veshin fjaleve te mia per Mjaft dhe prostitutat qe e drejtojne ate vite me pare, sot nuk do te ishit kaq te shokuar.

Keta jane kamikazet e Xhorxh Soros ne Shqiperi.

Albo

[ildushja]

In 1996-97, a string of fraudulent pyramid investment schemes collapsed, bilking tens of thousands of people out of their lives' savings. They took to the streets and demanded his resignation, but not before they raided the country's armories. Many of these weapons they looted eventually wound up across the border in Kosovo, provoking yet another war in the former Yugoslavia -- stopped only by a $45 billion NATO intervention. Exactly what the US wanted to avoid happened.

Per kete kam mendim tjeter... pasi mendoj qe piramidad u realizuan tamam sipas planit te Amerikes.. nejse.. muhabet mvec ai.


Nuk e shikoj te ket share Shqiperine ky miku, ky biles po i thot gjerat troc sic jan, gjera qe ne si Shqiptar ja mohojme vetes.
Nuk shajti popullin nuk tha dicka fallso, c'do gje eshte fakt.. po ta ndjekesh ai ka mese te drejte, ai po pershkruan lidhjen tone me Ameriken... pse jemi ne nder sh shtete te pakta qe po luftojme ne Irak per/anash Ameriken/s???

Nuk e kuptoj c'ju ofendoi ktu, dhe se kuptoj pse nuk i studjoni mire gjerat po thjesht shikoni c'thote media. Pse nuk pyesni veten.. kur nje ekonomist nemos nje person i thjeshte mund te thote qe piramidat do falimentojne, perse i besojme dikujt thjesht se eshte ne pozite? Si nuk e dinin superpower si Amerika kete gje?? E dinin qe cke me te, e dinin dhe e lan te ndodhte.

Mos u cuditni nese degjoni se Sali Berishen ne 90'tat e ka vene Amerika ne post...

Shum naiv jemi si popull, inteligjent, studioz, dipllomat.. ama naiv dhe mendjeceket shume, me vjen keq ta them..

[Darius]

Erion Veliaj ne fillimet e tij te shoqates Mjaft ka bere nje pune shume te mire, derisa fitoi nje popullaritet te madh "pas vetes" dhe me pas i ra me shkelm..

Ai qe ne fillimet e tij ka qene asgje me shume se sa nje prostitute qe jepej sa tek njeri krah i PS-se ne krahun tjeter. Nje ciban me shume qe duhet shkulur nga ajo toke para se te bej demin e rradhes. Asnjehere sme eshte dukur e paster shoqata e tij dhe sidomos pozicioni prej pseudo intelektuali i ketij mashkulli lavir. Po nuk u zhduken tipa si Velia dhe ata qe i suportojne ne background ai vend ska per te patur ndonjehere as qetesi dhe as prosperitet.

[Zemrushja]

Agartha.. C'do njeri ka mendimin e vet ...

[murik]

In 1996-97, a string of fraudulent pyramid investment schemes collapsed, bilking tens of thousands of people out of their lives' savings. They took to the streets and demanded his resignation, but not before they raided the country's armories. Many of these weapons they looted eventually wound up across the border in Kosovo, provoking yet another war in the former Yugoslavia -- stopped only by a $45 billion NATO intervention. Exactly what the US wanted to avoid happened.

Per kete kam mendim tjeter... pasi mendoj qe piramidad u realizuan tamam sipas planit te Amerikes.. nejse.. muhabet mvec ai.


Nuk e shikoj te ket share Shqiperine ky miku, ky biles po i thot gjerat troc sic jan, gjera qe ne si Shqiptar ja mohojme vetes.
Nuk shajti popullin nuk tha dicka fallso, c'do gje eshte fakt.. po ta ndjekesh ai ka mese te drejte, ai po pershkruan lidhjen tone me Ameriken... pse jemi ne nder sh shtete te pakta qe po luftojme ne Irak per/anash Ameriken/s???

Nuk e kuptoj c'ju ofendoi ktu, dhe se kuptoj pse nuk i studjoni mire gjerat po thjesht shikoni c'thote media. Pse nuk pyesni veten.. kur nje ekonomist nemos nje person i thjeshte mund te thote qe piramidat do falimentojne, perse i besojme dikujt thjesht se eshte ne pozite? Si nuk e dinin superpower si Amerika kete gje?? E dinin qe cke me te, e dinin dhe e lan te ndodhte.

Mos u cuditni nese degjoni se Sali Berishen ne 90'tat e ka vene Amerika ne post...

Shum naiv jemi si popull, inteligjent, studioz, dipllomat.. ama naiv dhe mendjeceket shume, me vjen keq ta them..

Pse nuk e di Amerika se c'paska ndodhur ne Shqiperi ne 1997 qe doli ky sum cpumi me i tregu.Ptu fare e poshter kta marksitopederet.

[drity]

Nuk e shikoj te ket share Shqiperine ky miku, ky biles po i thot gjerat troc sic jan, gjera qe ne si Shqiptar ja mohojme vetes.

Ildushe,

Une nuk e di si e kupton ti titullin e atij artikkuli, por une e perkthej: Washingtoni nuk duhet te rrehet (ta haj sa krahu, me sakte) nga mikpritja euforike Shqiptare per presidentin Bush.

Ne qofte se e ka kunjin me Berishen, le te thote Washingtoni mos rrehet nga mikpritja e Berishes.

qeka l0qe fare ky Veliaj, i paskan thon trunit hik pirdhu t'gjith kta politikucet.