Levizjet e Shqiptareve ne shekullin 13-14 sipas disa studiuesve

[Kreksi]

Me sa e shoh kjo faqe u mbush perplote me argumente qe per mendimin tim nuk ka pasur nevoje fare...
Tannhauser e din fare mire qe edeh ne kohen e Aleksandrit te Madh Epiri ishte mbreteri ne vete e kurresesi toke greke....
Pra ne tokat ilire vertete se ka patur specificitete siç ishin dardanet çe konsideroheshin nga romaket si aleate te tyre, gjoja se me origjine te perbashket trojane dhe epirotët qe ishin me shumë pellazget e fundit e ne syt e romes duhej te ndeshkoheshin, siç u ndeshkua edhe Kartagja !
Nje pyetje do ja bej Tannhauser-it; pse a thua nuk u ndeshkuan edhe grekerit me kete raste nga romaketpor vetem epirotet ?
Pra si shifet, po te ishin greker ata do shpetonin por u deportuan me se 150 000 prej tyre dhe ne tokat e tyre i sollen greket, si aleate te ri te romes.
Pra argumenti juaj se gjoja ne kohen e dushanit paska patur nje vershim shqiptare drejte epirit nuk qendron fre se historia nuk fillon nga mesjeta siç pretendojne edhe serbet me ju bashke por me heret...

[Darius]

Jo mer cne, historia fillon ne mesjete kur te vjen mbas qejfit. Po ka dashur zoti qe jo te gjithe kane kete mendje dhe e kane shkruar te zezen mbi te bardhe. Ja psh te shikojme se cfare thote William Smith ne liberthin e tij: A Smaller History of Greece, ne kapitullin e katert ku flet per kolonite greke:

The Grecian colonies may be arranged in four groups: 1. Those founded in Asia Minor and the adjoining islands; 2. Those in the western parts of the Mediterranean, in Italy, Sicily, Gaul, and Spain; 3. Those in Africa; 4. Those in Epirus, Macedonia, and Thrace.

4. There were several Grecian colonies situated on the eastern side of the Ionian sea, in Epirus and its immediate neighbourhood. Of these the island of Corcyra, now called Corfu, was the most wealthy and powerful. It was founded by the Corinthians about B.C. 700, and in consequence of its commercial activity it soon became a formidable rival to the mother-city. Hence a war broke out between these two states at an early period; and the most ancient naval battle on record was the one fought between their fleets in B.C. 664. The dissensions between the mother-city and her colony are frequently mentioned in Grecian history, and were one of the immediate causes of the Peloponnesian war. Notwithstanding their quarrels they joined in planting four Grecian colonies upon the same line of coast--Leucas, Anactorium, Apollonia, and Epidamnus.

Po mire nje gje smarr vesh une; keta fqinjet tane veten e tyre kane pushtuar dhe kolonizuar xhanem?

[Hyllien]

Jo or ti Darius kane qene ne "krize identiteti" te perhershme kupto ti tash ?
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[Darius]

Ose pastaj duhet te jete problemi i intelektit. Nuk ka perputhje midis dy haplogrupeve tona.
Sic thote Pearson psh: Roger Pearson (1991) has suggested the possibility that "Europe has suffered a severe dysgenic decline over the past two thousand years". If this is true, Greece, which today has the lowest average IQ in Europe, may have been particularly hard hit.