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    alpha dominant Maska e D@mian
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    RAF alarmohet nga avione-spiune ruse

    Eshte hera e pare qe prej fundit te Luftes se Ftohte qe Tornado-ve britanike u eshte dashur te zbrapsin avione-fotografues ruse ne kufijte e hapesires ajrore te Britanise se Madhe.
    Avionet ruse (mgjs te nje teknologjie te vjeter) u shfaqen gjate nje stervitjeje te Forcave Detare te Mbreterise se Bashkuar. Si duket kishin humbur rrugen

    Russian ‘spy’ planes put RAF on Cold War alert

    Michael Evans, Defence Editor

    The Cold War has made a surprise return in the form of two Russian Bear bombers. The aircraft flew towards British airspace during an exercise off Scotland to snoop on Royal Navy warships.

    RAF sources said yesterday that it was such a rare occurrence that two Tornado F3 air defence aircraft were scrambled to see the aircraft off.

    During the Cold War, Soviet Bear and Bison bombers regularly flew close to British airspace to test out Britain’s defence systems. RAF aircraft had to scramble every week to force the pilots to turn away.

    However, the habit had largely died out since the collapse of the Soviet Union and the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989.

    The two Bears were spotted on radar heading towards the Outer Hebrides during Exercise Neptune Warrior, which took place between April 22 and May 3.

    The exercise involved multinational warships, submarines and aircraft and included live firing.

    The Two Tornado F3s, on short-notice quick-reaction alert status at RAF Leuchars, in Fife, flew alongside the bombers until they turned away. The aircraft had flown from their base in Murmansk on the Kola Peninsula in the far north of Russia.

    Squadron Leader Keith Wardlaw, a spokesman for the RAF, could not remember the last time such an encounter had taken place.

    “The Russians obviously thought it might be worth coming through to have a look at what we were up to and probably take some photos,” Squadron Leader Wardlaw said.

    He added: “It’s a throwback to the Cold War when they used to fly in regularly to poke and prod at the edges of British airspace and test our reaction times.”

    He said that it was normal to let such aircraft “know we’re there by pulling up alongside them, and they left quietly”. The incident lasted about 20 minutes.

    Paul Jackson, Editor of Jane’s All the World’s Aircraft, said that, although old, the aircraft were still effective.

    “This aircraft dates back to the 1950s and although the air-frame might look dated it is still highly effective in terms of long-range maritime reconnaissance,” he said.

    “They used to fly over the North Sea and the Greenland Gap daily during the Cold War, and while it’s rare today, it’s by no means a unique occurrence. It’s nice to know the Russians are out and about again.”

    Mr Jackson said that the scrambling of the Tornadoes was nothing out of the ordinary. “The exercise was in international waters and the Russians have got just as much right to be there as we have. We do it to them, they do it to us. All the RAF are doing is telling them, ‘We could do this for real if we wanted to, so go and tell your mates back home’.”

    From July, the Tornado role is to be taken over by the new Eurofighter/Typhoon. However, the arrival of Russian Bears is unlikely to be their most burdensome task.

    These days, RAF personnel on scrambling duty spend most of their time on counter-terrorist missions, checking out commercial airliners approaching Britain in ways that arouse suspicion, either because they have taken the wrong flight path or because the pilot has not contacted ground control.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article1769420.ece
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    Bogdan Chmielnicki Maska e antares
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    Cka ketu per tu ......"alarmuar"?
    Vete artikulli thote qe ne ujra nderkombetare e drejta e Flotes Angleze per te bere amanovra ishte e barabarte (sipas Ligjit Nderkombetar) me ate te Ruseve per te derguar ca vizitore me "pamje" te vjeteruar........
    Per sa i perket Bombarduesve Strategjike (te vjeteruar) Ruse, kini parasysh se Rusia eshte i vetmi vend ne Bote (i vetmi) qe zoteron Bombarduees Strategjike -supersonike.
    I reklamuari B1 Spirit (i padukshem - opingen) eshte Subsonik!
    Do isha shume kurioz te degjoja ulerimat Anglo-Amerikane nese Rusia i jepte me hua Iranit nja 10-15 te tille........
    (Kuptohet te armatosur me Raketat (humanitare) KH-55!
    "The United States appear to be destined by Providence to plague America with misery in the name of liberty"
    -Simón Bolķvar

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    alpha dominant Maska e D@mian
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    Citim Postuar mė parė nga antares
    Cka ketu per tu ......"alarmuar"?
    Mua pyet, apo The Times?
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    Bogdan Chmielnicki Maska e antares
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    Sigurisht "TY" meq behesh tellall i ndergjegjshem apo i pandergjegjshem i te vjellave te ........"Timesit".
    Ti doje te paraqisje si kulmin e paturpesise dhe agresivitetit (kjo eshte politika editoriale e Gazetes tende te me nder- nderuar..... Timesit) faktin qe disa avione Ruse u duken ne ujra nderkombetare nderkohe qe Albioni bente Manovra Ushtarake......
    "The United States appear to be destined by Providence to plague America with misery in the name of liberty"
    -Simón Bolķvar

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    Antares, ngadale me D@mian, se s'te shau Rusine, lol.

    Fjalet kyce jane si me poshte:

    Mr Jackson said that the scrambling of the Tornadoes was nothing out of the ordinary. “The exercise was in international waters and the Russians have got just as much right to be there as we have. We do it to them, they do it to us. All the RAF are doing is telling them, "We could do this for real if we wanted to, so go and tell your mates back home.”
    Mqnse ushtrimet ishin ne ujera nderkombetare, ligji maritim perkates nuk perjashton as Angline (forcat multi-nacionale) as Rusine. Kaq per kete.

    Nga ana tjeter, artikulli ne Times, eshte nje eko e "llafeve" qe po qarkullojne keto kohet e fundit, bile nje pyetje e drejteperdrejte qe iu be Rice, per rikthimin e Luftes se Ftohte. Rikthim ky qe per disa mund te jete nostalgji, per te tjere, nje menyre per te kuptuar bashke-jetesen me nje Rusi qe po ngrihet cdo dite e me shume ne arenen nderkombetare (politikisht dhe ekonomikisht.)

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    alpha dominant Maska e D@mian
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    Antares, pash' nderin se s'kam oreks sot, ku e pe deshiren time "te paraqes si kulmin e paturpesise dhe agresivitetit faktin qe disa avione Ruse....."?! Nje cope artikulli solla!

    Btw, sot Rice deklaroi se raketat do te vendosen ne Evrope, do apo nuk do Rusia!

    Russia and the United States have defined their differences. They have not settled them.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6659705.stm

    dhe per te pare nje cike kulacin tone,

    There is still no common position on the future of Kosovo.

    Russia insists that any plan must be acceptable to Serbia. In essence, that means no to independence or anything too close to it.

    Moscow has threatened to use its veto at the UN Security Council.

    New Cold War?

    Today's talks produced no breakthrough. "It was agreed to search for a solution on Kosovo that would be acceptable for all, but there is no such solution immediately in sight," Mr Lavrov admitted.

    Ms Rice reinforced the impression that a universally acceptable agreement was elusive. She told Radio Ekho Moskvy that Kosovo would never again be part of Serbia - hardly something that Serbia, and therefore Russia, finds it easy to agree with.
    Nje Rusi nje cike cocky, qe kruhet me interesat amerikane ne Evrope e Lindjen e Mesme, qe inkurajon faktorin radikal brenda Serbise, qe tromaks nganjehere Evropen Lindore dhe Qendrore se do ti mbylle rubinetat e gazit....eshte ne fund te fundit ne dobi te interesave te ngushta shqiptare ne Ballkan (jo se na llogarit njeri, thjesht qellon qe guna jone eshte kundra drejtimit te eres). Keshtu qe Antares, mos u idhno o burre, jemi ne te njejten varke, ...rrofte Bogdan Chmielnicki dhe revolucioni bolshevik pra!
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    Bogdan Chmielnicki Maska e antares
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    Nje Rusi nje cike cocky, qe kruhet me interesat amerikane ne Evrope e Lindjen e Mesme
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    Me duket paksa irreale kjo "nderhyrje e supozuar e Rusise ne prag te deres (Europe)....
    A nuk ishin Jankite ata qe per pak e cuan boten afer Luftes st Trete Boterore kur Kuba kerkoi mbrojtjen Ruse ne 1961?
    Tani, nese USA qenkerka e gateshme te perballohet me Holokaustin TermoBerthamor kur nje Shtet Sovran (Kuba) kerkon instrumenta vetmbrojtese, pse kjo nuk qenka e vlefteshme per Rusine qe Kuislinget proamerikane i kane 5-10 min. flutiurioim nga Shen Petersburgu?
    Pastaj kush ja ka dhene me Tapi Lopcareve te pertejatlantikut Lindjen e Mesme?
    "The United States appear to be destined by Providence to plague America with misery in the name of liberty"
    -Simón Bolķvar

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    Ti me te vertete beson ne Luften e Ftohte at the Full Extent?

    Kur kemi folur para disa kohesh mbaj mend qe ndanim tjeter mendim bashke qe lufta e ftohte ishte per masat dhe jo realisht sic propagandohej.

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    Bogdan Chmielnicki Maska e antares
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    Ketu kemi te bejme me Gjeostrategji.....
    Lufta e Ftohte ishte nje nga instrumentat (kryesisht propagandistike deri diku) per te mbajtur grigjat respektive rreth vetes.
    Por nese ti dhe une i kemi drejtuar automatikun njeri-tjetrit, dhe nderkohe qe ti sheh se une po vesh nje xhakete anti-plumb........cfare do mendosh?
    A do e besosh justifikimin tim patetik se kete veshje (antiplumb) une po e mbaj per tu mbrojtur nga Qeni i Fetahut diten e Xhuma?
    Ti do marresh shenim koken (dhe k...qet e mia te pambrojtura nga xhaketa)......
    Kete banalizim e bera per ta kuptuar (jo ti qe e di fort mire se si vertiten punet) por naivet e shumte te forumit qe fatkeqesisht (per ty e per mua) jane te shumte.
    Pershedetje
    Antares.....
    "The United States appear to be destined by Providence to plague America with misery in the name of liberty"
    -Simón Bolķvar

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    Une jam Bismarkiane (dmth i aderohem gjeopolitikes se tij) persa i perket Rusise dhe Europes. Kush nuk e ka lexuar/studiuar Bismarkun, humbje per te, lol, s'kam kohe tani ta shpjegoj.

    Europa, si gjithmone, po i ben corape disa pune.

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