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    i/e regjistruar Maska e Nice_Boy
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    Post Schools will be able to ban pupils from wearing full-face veils on security..

    Schools will be able to ban pupils from wearing full-face veils on security, safety or learning grounds under new uniforms guidance issued by ministers.
    It says efforts must be made to accommodate religious clothing, but stresses the importance of teachers and pupils being able to make eye contact.


    It comes after a girl failed in a legal bid to overturn her school's niqab ban.

    Islamic groups have been divided in their response - some "shocked" and others welcoming the guidance.

    Headteachers' leaders have applauded the decision, saying that it would provide "clarity" and "reassurance" for schools.

    It's not right that schools should have to be arguing this out case by case

    Head teacher
    Veil court case school


    Why Muslims wear the veil
    Do we need to see a face?

    The issue of religious dress has become an increasingly complicated one for schools in recent years, with a handful of high profile court cases over the right to wear a full veil.

    A court victory by a Buckinghamshire school (which cannot be named for legal reasons) has prompted the updated guidance.

    The school argued the veil made communication between teachers and pupils difficult and thus hampered learning.

    Teachers needed to be able to tell if a pupil was enthusiastic, paying attention or even distressed but full-face veils prevented this, it said.

    This position was upheld by the High Court - which refused to grant a judicial review - and is expected to form a key part of the guidance.

    'Consult parents'

    The guidance says schools need to be able to identify individual pupils in order to maintain good order and spot intruders.


    Schools Minister Jim Knight says "learning must take precedence"

    "If a pupil's face is obscured for any reason the teacher may not be able to judge their engagement with learning or secure their participation in discussions and practical activities," it adds.

    Schools minister Jim Knight said: "Schools should consult parents and the wider community when setting uniform policy.

    "And while they should make every effort to accommodate social, religious or medical requirements of individual pupils, the needs of safety, security and effective learning in the school must always take precedence."

    The head teacher of the Buckinghamshire school, who also cannot be named, said it would be very useful to have some clear guidance from the Department for Education and Skills (DfES).

    "It's not right that schools should have to be arguing this out case by case," she told the BBC News website.

    "Obviously there's a trade-off between schools retaining autonomy over school uniform decisions, on the other hand we will have some very clear guidance from the DfES within which to work."

    'Dismayed'

    There were divided responses from the Muslim community.

    The chairman of the Islamic Human Rights Commission, Massoud Shadjareh, said he was "dismayed" by the DfES guidance.


    The guidance has divided opinion within the Muslim community

    "Successive ministers dealing with education issues have failed to give proper guidance when requested by human rights campaigners about schools' obligations regarding religious dress, including the head scarf.

    "To now proceed to issue guidance against Muslim communities is simply shocking," he said.

    But the Muslim Council of Britain's education spokesman, Tahir Alam, said that the new guidance did not "alter the position very much" and said "the vast majority of schools are able to solve these issues locally".

    Dr Tag Hargey of the Muslim Education Centre welcomed the guidance.

    "When you conceal the face, that actually not only dehumanises the person involved, but also creates a chasm, a gap, a bridge of non-understanding between communities and I think the sooner we can get rid of this veil, this face veiling, this face masking in Muslim societies across Britain, so much the better."

    'Equality issue'

    Ayshah Ishmael, a teacher at a Muslim girls' school in Preston who wears the niqab away from the classroom, told the BBC wearing the veil promoted equality.

    She said: "You're judged for who you are and not what you are, so I think there are two arguments to the whole equality issue."

    The DfES said it was not ordering or advising head teachers to ban the veil, simply confirming that they have the ability to do so if they wish, so long as they carry out proper consultation.

    Association of School and College Leaders' general secretary Dr John Dunford said he was pleased the government is supporting school leaders in upholding school uniforms.

    "Repeated and blatant breaches of uniform policy undermine the school ethos," he added.
    Mė gėnjeu pasuria, jeta vrap mė iku shpejt dhe u thinja u dergja u plaka nė dhe tė huaj do tė vdes..

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    i/e regjistruar Maska e Nice_Boy
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    Behet fjal per heqjen e mbulesave te grave Muslimane ne Britani?

    Eshte e drejt kjo!? E ec e mos thuaj qe sjan qu kunder ?
    Mė gėnjeu pasuria, jeta vrap mė iku shpejt dhe u thinja u dergja u plaka nė dhe tė huaj do tė vdes..

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    Citim Postuar mė parė nga GjIlAnAsI_cSi

    Eshte e drejt kjo!? E ec e mos thuaj qe sjan qu kunder ?
    Nje grua europiane do lejohej te dilte publikisht e pambuluar ne nje vend Islamik?

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    Bogdan Chmielnicki Maska e antares
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    Cfare ka ketu? Thjesht nje provokim i fundit ndaj besimit te nje grupi (Myslimaneve).
    Jam kurioz te di nga Dariusi se si do te pritej nje propozim per ndalimin e venies ne koke ne vende publike te kapeles karakteristike cifute......
    Me siguri budallai qe do e propozonte nje gje te tille ne vendet e kontrolluara nga Judaizmi (Anglo-Saksonet, Europa e ca te tjere), do akuzohej per antisemitizem qe i perkthyer ne shqip eshte "Agjitacion e Propagande kunder Pushtetit Popullor"
    Pyes teme-hapesin: pse hap tema te tilla dhe cili eshte qendrimi Juaj ndaj ketij propozimi (ne shkrim).......
    "The United States appear to be destined by Providence to plague America with misery in the name of liberty"
    -Simón Bolķvar

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    Kapelja cifute nuk eshte njesoj me mbulimin mysliman. Ne koke mund te mbash dhe nje tepsi ose nje tas plastik dhe se can koken njeri, madje ta marrin edhe per mode Pra nuk demton nje kulture mbajtja e nje kape pasi ato jane te shumellojshme dhe ka plot qe i perdorin. Ndersa mbulimi lidhet me fanatizem dhe ndrydhje.

    Ky eshte mendimi im. Ska pse te jete i njejte me te te tjereve.

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    Bogdan Chmielnicki Maska e antares
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    Pra ata qe e imponijne nje "regull" te tille e bejne per te "emancipuar" femren myslimane sipas modeleve te suksesshe te tipit Britney Spears......
    Dariusi do na kenaqe me argumenta te tipit "Botes Yudeo-Anglo-Saksone i'u hap barku per te drejtat e femres myslimane nderkohe qe po harxhon miljarda per te vrare meshkujt (myslimane) ne Afaganistan, Irak e se afermi Iran"....

    I kujtoj teme-hapesit qe eshte Nenshtetas i Madherise se Saj e jo i Jahudistanit.
    "The United States appear to be destined by Providence to plague America with misery in the name of liberty"
    -Simón Bolķvar

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    i/e regjistruar Maska e friendlyboy1
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    shum e drejt me duket vendimi i gjykates. jan ne angli ne mes te evropes nuk jan ne vendin e tyre. keto debate vetem ne angli behen se ja ka zgjatur shum anglezi ketyre islamistave, po keta sjan rob persmari keta duhen hequr komplet duhen cuar ne vendin e tyre

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