Reflektime mbi tokën e gjyshit tim shqiptar

[s0ni]

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[FreeByrd]

The truth? Who defines such truth, on what basis? At least 30% on what is writen in the article is nothing but lies. I read '.....he banned beards.......vehicles had to pay a $3 disinfection fee and drive through a pool of disinfectant......Anyone bearing an American passport was not allowed to visit Albania......villages form a patchwork quilt of mosques and orthodox churches
.....' etc etc, and i'm thinking is this article maybe writen by Sali Berisha to justify the demolition of 'The Pyramid' ?



Discuss, YES. Make stuff up just because you can and it might be believable to some, deffinetly NOT!



Right here you make think, is it worth me trying to carry on engaging myself in this debate, when you clearly state that the only knowledge you have upon Albania is based on one single article. Quite cearly you haven't even tried to verify how accurate the information provided in 'da bomb's' article is. You seem like a smart individual which makes me wonder, are you really that naive to keep on agruing 'da bomb's' article with your eyes shut, knowing nothing else about Albania but what you have read in one single article.



I totally agree, but only when 'Investigative Journalism' is conducted with profesionalism and aims discovering the truth, not just to brainwash and confuse people. People are confused as it is, don't damage them any further.



You were confused, I hope you understand me now.
The sad fact is that even if you heard the truth and stood by it the political power would've still carried on with their decision, like they did!
Which is exactly where the Albanian people stand right now, depended on the greater political powers and the hunger for power of our politicians.

Why would Allison Stanger risk her reputation by lying about the land of her grandfather?

In the end who should I believe, a journalist that dared to confront the American Pentagon or a malcontent with delicate sensibilities.


If you want to live your life by sicking your head in the sand to shield your eyes from the ugly truth...that's your business.

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Pse do Allison Stanger rrezik reputacionin e saj duke gënjyer për vendin e gjyshit të saj?

Në fund të cilët duhet të besoj unë, një gazetar që guxonte të përballet Pentagonit amerikan ose një qaraman me ndjeshmëritë delikate.


Nëse ju doni të jetoni jetën tuaj duke sicking kokën në rërë për të mbrojtur sytë tuaj nga e vërteta e shëmtuar ... kjo është e biznesit tuaj.

[yllbardh]

Eshte mese e vertete qe ngjajme me Kurdet per nga aspekti i fatit historik te ketij 100 vjecari te fundit, por eshte po aq e vertete se Kurdet nuk kane ende asnje shtet, madje as nuk mund te imagjinojne te kene figurat historike qe ka patur Shqiperia. Krahasimi eshte disi pa vend, vetem nese Amerika ka ndermend ne te ardhmen te krijoj nje shtet Kurd dhe do te perdori ndonje paralelizem te cuditshem me Shqiperine, por per te tjera, nga ana kulturore dhe jo vetem, Kurdet nuk kane asgje te perbashket me Shqiptaret.

Artikull shume i dobet ne pergjithesi. Nuk kuptova mire se cfare ushqimi Serb paskemi qejf ne ? Byreqet me Pleskavicat(qoftet) ? Ato jane Turke, le ti quajme me emrin qe kane. Shqiptaret nuk para kane merak ta quajne dicka qe nuk i perket te tyren.

Shkaku se nuk ke njohuri rreth historisë kurde nuk do me thënë se ata nuk kanë pasur të kaluar historike. Një nga figurat historike më të famshme të mesjetës është Salahudini, i cili ishte kurd. Një gjë që i karakterizon kurdët është se ata, sikurse edhe shqiptarët gati se gjithherë kanë luftuar për të huajt.

[white_snake]

Why would Allison Stanger risk her reputation by lying about the land of her grandfather?

In the end who should I believe, a journalist that dared to confront the American Pentagon or a malcontent with delicate sensibilities.


If you want to live your life by sicking your head in the sand to shield your eyes from the ugly truth...that's your business.

What Allison does only concerns 'da bomb', it only concerns my self, and maybe other who care about Albania, when untruthful sequence of information is provided to endagered people like your self. People who so much need to believe on someone else only because of their status and/ or reputation. Prime example provided by your self, you believed your president just so you could get disapointed .

Why do you need or should believe someone? Whatvere happened to finding out the truth yourself so at least you can stand up straight in a debate initiated by yourself?
You can not even justify your post now, your only justification is that 'da bomb' wrote this article, IT MUST BE TRUE.

God bless you.

[s0ni]

Why would Allison Stanger risk her reputation by lying about the land of her grandfather?

In the end who should I believe, a journalist that dared to confront the American Pentagon or a malcontent with delicate sensibilities.


If you want to live your life by sicking your head in the sand to shield your eyes from the ugly truth...that's your business.
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Bring the whole article. Now I have the feeling that all those off hand comments were added on by you. If this lady is a journalist, wow she has so many job descriptions, her profession should not allow her to talk non-sense.

Just so you know, our eyes are not shielded. We lived, breathed and know that place better than any journalist, whisle blower, professor who has visited for a few months. Comparing the two it is only logical to believe someone who has more experience. It’s the same as asking you to describe USA compared to a professor, whisle blower, and professor from Albania who lived in the states for a few months.

Logically the original source is better than going through someone else.

[FreeByrd]

Bring the whole article. Now I have the feeling that all those off hand comments were added on by you. If this lady is a journalist, wow she has so many job descriptions, her profession should not allow her to talk non-sense.

Just so you know, our eyes are not shielded. We lived, breathed and know that place better than any journalist, whisle blower, professor who has visited for a few months. Comparing the two it is only logical to believe someone who has more experience. It’s the same as asking you to describe USA compared to a professor, whisle blower, and professor from Albania who lived in the states for a few months.

Logically the original source is better than going through someone else.

Once upon a time Albanians could not criticize anything because Hoxha and his police state ware watching. He's dead and gone, It's time to come out of those bunkers and dare to criticize your government and any other aspect of your lives. Don't slay the messenger because you can't abide the message. You have scars. You have problems. So do we. So does everybody.

PS
The comparison with the Kurds was not Allison Stanger's observations. It's mine.

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Njëherë e një kohë shqiptarët nuk mund të kritikoj asgjë, sepse Hoxha dhe gjendjen e tij të policisë ndërgjegjshëm shikuar. Ai është i vdekur dhe shkuar, Është koha për të dalë nga këto bunkerë dhe guxojnë të kritikojnë qeverinë tuaj dhe çdo aspekt tjetër të jetës tuaj. Mos e mbytni dërguarin, sepse ju nuk mund të durojë mesazh. Ju keni plagët. Ju keni probleme. Pra, nuk kemi. Pra, nuk të gjithë.

PS
Krahasimi me kurdët nuk ishte vëzhgimet Allison Stanger së. Është e minave.

[white_snake]

Once upon a time Albanians could not criticize anything because Hoxha and his police state ware watching. He's dead and gone, It's time to come out of those bunkers and dare to criticize your government and any other aspect of your lives. Don't slay the messenger because you can't abide the message. You have scars. You have problems. So do we. So does everybody.

PS
The comparison with the Kurds is my observation not Allison's

...as you said once upon a time. Those times are long gone now.
We are as victimised from our politicians as you are. At least we are able to understand this. People in the states have been so havily brainwashed and isolated they don't know who or what they are anymore.
When I visited the USA in 2008, the whole of EU media was taken over by the fact that a young man was shot dead by the police in Greece and this had caused turbulance all over Greece. USA was busy reporting black people stilling 4 cans of lager from a liquor store.

It took me over 10 minutes to explain to the recepsionist that England was part of the Great Britain.

Fact is that you are so confused, you have been agruing this article for the past 2 days and now you are justifying your self by saying that you are just the messenger. You are acusing us for sticking our head in the sand, but I think you are actually writing from under the sand yourself.

I think I am gonna stop at this post as I fid it pointlesly tiring trying to open your cemented eyes.
One last advice, read more, listen more and be sure for what you say, it is not plesant to provoke people pointlessly.

[s0ni]

Once upon a time Albanians could not criticize anything because Hoxha and his police state ware watching. He's dead and gone, It's time to come out of those bunkers and dare to criticize your government and any other aspect of your lives. Don't slay the messenger because you can't abide the message. You have scars. You have problems. So do we. So does everybody.

PS
The comparison with the Kurds was not Allison Stanger's observations. It's mine.

Nice way of avoiding accountability. Attack your opponent with nonsense, the same nonsense I could give right back at you. Now who's the politician between us, you or me. The above response just proved that those idiotic comments were your own doings not anybody else’s.

Ps. The comparison with the Kurds was not as bad as the rest of the other things I brought to your attention.

[FreeByrd]

Nice way of avoiding accountability. Attack your opponent with nonsense, the same nonsense I could give right back at you. Now who's the politician between us, you or me. The above response just proved that those idiotic comments were your own doings not anybody else’s.

Ps. The comparison with the Kurds was not as bad as the rest of the other things I brought to your attention.

In your case I don't have to attack but watch you spout and go Chernobyl. The bottom line is Allison Stanger has more education, journalistic experience. travel and credibility than you.

No retort can change that reality.

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Në rastin tuaj unë nuk kam për të sulmuar, por shikojnë ju hundëz dhe shko Çernobilit.Fund të fundit është Allison Stanger ka më shumë shkollim, përvoja gazetareske. udhëtimit dhe besueshmërinë se ju.

Asnjë përgjigje mund të ndryshojë këtë realitet.

[s0ni]

Awww, I need to pick up my heart because you just shattered it into pieces. It may never be whole again. *Sob*

The bottom line is you don't know enough to hold on to your own views, that is why you feel the need to borrow them from someone else.

I am out too, it's usless trying to have a conversation with someone who resorts to pettiness.