Valla ki qef me picku , hahahaha.
Nuk do te thote doemos qe Prishtina te jete qyteti i vjeter i Ulpianes por sigurisht qe mund te kete qene ndonje qytet para Justinian por qe nuk do ta kishte rendesine ia dha Justiniani Ulpianes .
Sa i perket qytetit te vjeter te Ulpianes mund te them se Theclana ose Beclano jane edhe emra te tjere me te cilat mund te jete njohur Ulpiana .
O zog maliPostuar mė parė nga Longarus
Te pyeta "si quhej qyteti" para se ta rindertonte justiniani per te mos e kuptuar gabimisht ate qe ke shkruar dhe po qe se nuk e kisha kuptuar gabimisht desha te dija pastaj burimin e informates dhe ku mund ta gjej, sepse eshte me interes te madh kombtar e gjuhesor njekohesisht.
Pra sinqerisht kerkoj te ma qartesosh informaten:
"Qe te dallohej qyteti i vjeter nga ai qe e ndertoi Justiniani ai quhej Pri (para) "
Kjo me intereson pra: "Pri" dhe a ka ndonje gjurme te ekzistimit te ktij emri qyteti apo vendbanimi kudo ne rrethinen mes Prishtines dhe Ulpianes. do te me gezoje pa mase...
Aeneas Dardanus
Lavdi, pasthirrme fosilesh, germadhash e rrenojash vershelluese. -Eja pas meje!...
O harabel
Baptist me ke keqkuptu po edhe une nuk pasna qene shume i qarte , nuk thash qe emri vjen nga ndonje emer qyteti me parashtesen Pri . Edhe si duket nuk e ke verejte qe e kam cekur qe ky eshte vetem mendim i imi dhe se nuk se nuk kam ndonje burim te informates .
Ne Dardani mund te gjesh edhe emra te tjere te qyteteve apo stacioneve te shendruara me vone ne qytete me emra individesh te merituar apo edhe gjeneralesh romak sic jane :
Praes Pompey
Praes Dasmini
prae-para, me heret
pra mund te kene qene qytete apo qendra Daradane te cilave gjeneralet i vune emrat e tyre pas nenshtrimit duke i humbur gjurmet e emrit te vertete pararomak apo ndoshta edhe mund te kene qene stacione te ushtrise romake te cilat me vone u shendruan ne qytete . Pra edhe Prishtina mund te kete qene nje qytet apo stacion ushtarak me vone i shendruar ne qytet qe te kete marre emrin e Justinit I ose Justinianit II .
Praes Iustina - Prishtina
Per Pejen e di qe ajo ne serbisht quhet Pec sekapur me qytetin Pejź jan malet e rugoves e aty ka disa shpella e vrima te arushave se serbet i qujn pec .
kurse emri Pej ne shqip vjen nge zejtaria qe zhvillohej ne at qytet e qe merrenin me punź perpunimi te mendafshit , aty punohej peni i mendafshit, siq e dim krimbat e mendafshit kan prejardhje nga kina , Kush i solli ? marko polo ? apo dikush tjeter ?
Turqit e qujn Pejen IPEK , ipek asht peni i mendafshit, pra turqit sja kan dru fare emrin vetem e kan qujt ne gjuhen e tyre.
"Msyja Henes po smujte me u ndal ne Hene,mbi yje ateron gjitsesi" ....
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Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga alnosa : 04-02-2009 mė 20:36
Mire trumcakO harabel
Baptist me ke keqkuptu po edhe une nuk pasna qene shume i qarte , nuk thash qe emri vjen nga ndonje emer qyteti me parashtesen Pri . Edhe si duket nuk e ke verejte qe e kam cekur qe ky eshte vetem mendim i imi dhe se nuk se nuk kam ndonje burim te informates .
Ne Dardani mund te gjesh edhe emra te tjere te qyteteve apo stacioneve te shendruara me vone ne qytete me emra individesh te merituar apo edhe gjeneralesh romak sic jane :
Praes Pompey
Praes Dasmini
prae-para, me heret
pra mund te kene qene qytete apo qendra Daradane te cilave gjeneralet i vune emrat e tyre pas nenshtrimit duke i humbur gjurmet e emrit te vertete pararomak apo ndoshta edhe mund te kene qene stacione te ushtrise romake te cilat me vone u shendruan ne qytete . Pra edhe Prishtina mund te kete qene nje qytet apo stacion ushtarak me vone i shendruar ne qytet qe te kete marre emrin e Justinit I ose Justinianit II .
Praes Iustina - Prishtina
S'paske thene gje atehere!
Gati me gezove -sepse pata shprese mos ke gjetur mer qyteti me emer te rrenjes Pri~ dhe nuk ke ke idene se sa zbulim i fuqishem do te ishte ky...
prishtina ne ate kohe ka mundur te jete vetem nje fortifikate ushtarake per te siguruar rrugen Justiniana Secunda via Justiniana Prima apo 'popullorqe' Naishi Njeshi apo Nishi, pra: Prima.
Aeneas Dardanus
Lavdi, pasthirrme fosilesh, germadhash e rrenojash vershelluese. -Eja pas meje!...
Praestune, Pra-es(Tin(1)a)
Praestune eshte emri origjinal nga ku sot derivon Preston. Kerkova ne internet dhe thote qe permended ne Doomsday Book i vitit 1000 e ca pas Krishtit dhe do te thote Shtepi e Priftit.
Vec ne pas qene Tinia Prifti #1.
Nė rrethinėn e Trepces Zvecanit Mitrovices ne disa lokacione janė zbuluar fakte –gjurme qe i perkasin kohrave te ndryshme duke filluar nga Neoliti pastaj statuja flijimi qe i perkasin shekull te 2-3 te perandoris Romake
Ndersa ne shekullin e 6 perandori bizantin Justiniani I rinderton keshtjellen –kalan e ZVECANIT(ZEUCA-SEUCA)nit.
Trepca permendet si vendbanim i minatorve ne mesjete ne vitin 1303. Ne pjesen qe sot emrohet Stari Tėrg gjinden eksemplare kristalesh gjithashtu rrenojat e keshtjelles qe i perket shekullit te 13 me emrin karakteristik Qutet Vete emri na tregon se kujt i perkiste keshtjella sepse po ta kishte emrin Grad si emer do ti perkiste gjuhes Serbe dhe do ishte e banuar me Serb.Ketu posht po postoj disa argumente te kartografeve te ndryshem megjithse teksti eshte ne Anglisht nese ndokush deshiron mund ta perkthej se une nuk e njof mire anglishten .
Kosovo old maps from the XV to the XVII century
Florentine cartographer Francesco Roselli (cca 1445 – 1527) produced one of the oldest regional charts of the Balkan Peninsula. The copper engraving (46,5 x 33 cm) is considered to have beeen made between 1480 and1484, while Roselli was working on a map of Hungary on the court of Matthias Corvinus.
The whole presentation of Serbia on those maps is dominated by Kosovo Lake (Svercegno), as is the case with the maps made by Marcus Beneventanus in 1507, by Martin Waldseemüller in 1513. and by Giacomo Gastaldi in 1560.
Gastaldi’s maps, although unsuccessful compilation made of various discordant sources, nevertheless provide the most data about Serbian territory in the XVI century, although mainly in the way of the roads. Settlements and toponyms are grouped as discordant enclaves on his map of Greece published in the great work by Abraham Ortelius Theatrum orbis terrarum, Antwerp 1579.
The field of Kosovo is mentioned for the first time in cartographic sources in the mid XVI century. Cosmographia universalis by German cartographer Sebastian Münster (1489-1552), in its various editions from 1545 until 1650, depicts a part of Serbian territory on the map of Poland and Hungary from 1550, where between the names Servia and Nys (Niš), to the east of Svrčin Lake with the island (Suere Lagno), the name Campus Cassouius is inscribed with large letters.
Certain innovations in the cartographic presentation of Kosovo and Metohija were brought by Dutch cartographer Christian Sgrooten (cca 1532-1608). On his map Tractus Danubii from 1578 he added in the route from Belgrade toward Bulgaria, which branched over Kosovo to Skoplje (Scupia) and Vučitrn (Vacetren). The Kosovo valley and Kosovo Field are denoted as Vallus Cassouia and Campus Cassouia, between the Lab (Liaba) and Skoplje (Scupi) in the region of Raska (Rascia).
A modern approach to the elaboration of maps including more accurate contemporary information was achieved by Italian cartographers, educated humanist Giacomo Cantelli da Vignola (1643-1695), the official cartographer of the Duke of Modena, Francesco II, and famous Venetian cartographer and cosmographer Vincenzo Maria Coronelli (1650-1718).
Giacomo Cantelli da Vignola made the first regional chart of Serbia, published in 1689.
The map entitled The Kingdom of Serbia otherwise called Rascia (Il Regno della Servia detta altrimenti Rascia) shows numerous contemporary toponyms, often with their ancient names, additionally depicting a developed fluvial network, the main routes and bridges, mountain chains and forest cover and, what was especially important, the division of church jurisdictions. In making the map, Cantelli used rich cartographic sources, geographical descriptions and travel accounts, as well as reports by Catholic priests and missionaries. It is considered to be the best map of Serbia from the XVII century.
Cantelli’s contemporary, the famous Venetian cartographer and editor Maria Vincenzo Coronelli (1650-1718), depicted the Danube Basin (Corso di Danubio) – i.e., Podunavlje - in his well-known work Atlante Veneto, in six folios. Folio 5, published in Venice in 1688, represents the Illyric, comprising a portion of Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Serbia and Montenegro.[19]
In spite of incorrect geographical base and other mistakes, the map contains a great deal of historical information, contemporary and ancient names of certain places and rivers, and, in some places, even the number of Moslem and Christian houses. Despite the large amount of material he systematically collected for years for the purpose of map-making, Coronelli places Kosovo filed (Campo Cossovo) between the rivers Piva and Lim, with a note that Hungarians call it Rigomazeu, the Latins Campus Merulus, while Sansovino wrongly places it on the boundary of Raška.
The allusion is on Francesco Sansovino, the XVI century writer, who published a collection of texts about the Turks, which were subsequently used both by Leunclavius, and Mavro Orbini. The map is abundant with details that could have beeen noticed only directly on the ground, such as the notes about wooden bridge over the Sitnica and the Lab, the ruins of Veletin and Janjevo lake.
In Kosovo and Metohija Coronelli marks Trepča (Trepcia), Mitrovica, Zvečan (Seucian) and, to the south, Priština, with a note that it contains about 4000 scattered houses and only a small number of Christian ones (Pristina di 4000 Case sparse, poche de Christiani). On the right side of the Sitnica is Vučitrn (Wicitergia), noted as the seat of the pasha of Skoplje (Isa–bey Ishaković); then, as with Cantelli, a second Murat’s tomb between the Lab and Vučitrn (Sepolt/ura/ di Amu/rato/ secunda), the village of Svetlje on the Lab and a wooden bridge (Ponte di legno), the little rivers Sutjeska and Kižnica (Chisniza Fiume) along with the ruins of the mediaeval fortress Veletin (Veletino rovin/ato/). Janjevo with the church of Saint Nicolas is located on the spot where a river flows out of Lake Janjevo (Lago di Iagneuo), to the south are the villages of Gušterica and Vragolija, inhabited by both Moslems and Orthodox (Vragolia habitata da Turchi, e Greci).
At the source of the Lepenac river lies Kačanik, a fortress with 50 Turkish guards (Cacianich Forte con Presidio di 50 Thurchi). Prizren is to the south, described by a long note: Prisren, Prisereno, Iustiniana Secunda, Vlpianum, Villa Vulpiana, habitata da 6000 Turchi e pochi Christiani (where live 6000 Turks and a few Christians). Near are the villages of Ljubinje and Graždanik, with 20 Turkish houses each, then Zjum, Rogovo, Tupec, Pirani, Bistražin (Biscasina), Orahovac (Rahouac) and, across the Topluha, Suva Reka (Suha Riesca). To the north of Suva Reka, in the wrong region – Podrimlje, and on the wrong river – the Drina, is shown Novo Brdo (Nouomont, o Nouomant). On the left side of the White Drim (Drino bianco Fiume, o Drin Bieli, Drilo Albus L/atino/) lies Djakovica, with 200 Moslem houses (Iacoua, o Iacouizza, 200 Case de Turchi). Upstream, on the river Fiume Rieca, is the village of Junik, located in a valley, with 20 Turkish houses (Iunich Villa in piano del 20 Case de Turchi). A wooden bridge (Ponte da legno) is sketched going over the Dečanska Bistrica, while Dečani (Decian) are marked along the way toward Peć. At the source of the Bistrica (Bistriza F/iume/), Peć is denoted as the seat of the Dukadjin sandjak (Pechia Residenza del Sandiaco del Ducagini). The Podrimlje is overly enlarged, being extended by the large inscription Podrima provincia to run from the mountain region north of Plav Lake (Lago di Plaua) in the west to Kačanik and the source of the Lepenac in the east.
Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga XH.GASHI : 06-02-2009 mė 09:55
mos qeshni po them
se e kam me te ndegjume nga gjyshja ime kur isha femijė :
- Ka pas lufta te mdhaja ne kete vend gjithmon
por ushtrit siē vinin i humbshin betejat edhe i mernin xhenazet me veti...
njehere ishte nisur nje ushtri e armatosur edhe ushtaret mbeshtjell me hekur
luftetaret nuk dinin se si te luftoni kunder tyre , as shpata e as shtiza punė nuk bente ne ket rast..
a“there vendosen luftetaret te luftonin me kosa
sepse ushtrija qe i sulmonte vetem kembet nuk i kishte te mbeshtjellura me hekur shkaku i levizjes...
edhe i kositen .
Kosova = Kosita fitova
Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga busavata : 09-11-2009 mė 22:05
Askush ne kete bote nuk thot ashtu perveq teje dhe Jakup Krasniqit.
Either win or die. I hope for nothing. I fear nothing. Fate has brought me here.
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