Po dhe cfare rendesie ka se cfare populli konsiderohemi kur ne vet si popull jemi nje popull Laik. Kjo duhet t'u sqarohet ose me sakte tu vihet ne pah autoriteteve te huaja. Eshte gabim i yni ne radhe te pare ndonese un personalisht nuk bashkohem me idene se 90% e popullsise na qenka muslimane.
Jeta eshte labirinth.. nese do ta fitosh.. zbuloje
E marr pergjigjen tende ne kontekstin e temes (me korrigjo nese jam gabim)......Postuar më parë nga antares
Nuk mohoj vetite bythelepirese e te gjithe qeverive shqiptare deri me sot, por ekstremi tjeter me duket po aq patetik.
Mos ka ardhur koha qe te rifreskosh njouhurite e tua stastistikore mbi Shqiperine? A duhet valle te kujtoj qe popullsia shqiptare eshte vetem 3.5 milion, 1.5 milion prej te cileve po ndertojne kapitalizmin ne Europe, 0.5 milion jane te mitur, dhe nga ata qe ngelen 0.5 milion jane pleq ?
Ti flet per Shqiperine sikur ishte nje shtet mbi 80mil qe te tjeret e marrin neper kembe. Ju ka marre malli te degjoni nga ato bemat e qemoti, kur i "thyenim hundet" Amerikes ne OKB?
Me trego nje shtet 3-4 milion qe ka ate lloj shtylle kurrizore qe kerkon ti. Po nuk e gjete ne te tashmen, shko e rremo ne te shkuaren, do jete shembull po aq i vlefshem.
Dhe me sa shikoj nga temat e tjera ku ti merr pjese, kam pershtypjen se ajo qe te shqetson, nuk eshte fakti se qeverite shqiptare jane bythlepirese, por cilen syresh lepine.
When you are in it up to your ears, keep your mouth shut.
Lioness te lumt goja moter, do ishte me te vertet pa tru te na krahasojne me Lindjen e Mesme (se fundja fundit me Afriken e me Kinen ngjajme me shume).
Saper Albon nuk e kuptoj me te vertet, tjera thote te tjera neser....
Kam kuriozitet te madh cfare do llapi Moisiu kesaj radhe... kur vajti ne Europe tha se Shqiperia nuk ka Muslimane (dhe Albo ishte plotesisht ndakort!)... tani qe Bushi erdhi ne Shqiperi me pretekstin se Shqiperia qenka mbushur me muslimane te begate ... jam i sigurte se nuk do i shkoj kundra Moisiu... thjesht do thote " e mbani mend cfare ju thash para 9 muajsh.... e pra ja futa kot"
"ku ku per ne, hajde dru me pre"
PS: persa i perket respektit tone nderfetar dhe respektin ndaj Hebrenjve dhe Amerikes.... eshte nje "perralle nga e kaluara"... tani qe uahabizmi po zevendeson Islamin tradicional ne qarqet e komunitetit musliman, grekortodoksia doktrinale po zevendeson ortodoksine ikumenike dhe Katolicizmi vetpelqehet me luften e qytetrimeve qe po kthehen ne valiumin e ri te Vatikanit..... harrojeni respektin e vjeter!
Respekti fetar po vdes dita dites, hidhni nje sy ne per forume dhe do me kuptoni!
Ndryshuar për herë të fundit nga Kryeplaku : 05-06-2007 më 10:07
Prisni tani kur ta takoje Bushin Sala e ti thote:
-He mo Bush erdhe, mire se na erdhe e ec ta ngreme nje dolli per mueeee..)
Jeta eshte labirinth.. nese do ta fitosh.. zbuloje
I neruar "letyre" (nuk eshte faji im qe ri perdor emta te tipit "dirty")!
Te falenderoj per statistikat qe me jep (nuk me thua ndonje gje te re sigurisht)- pasoje e Kapitalizmit Fitimtar ne marshim qe kategoria jote pasi grasatohet nga Sorosi apo USAIDI e duartroket.
Meqe ta ka qejfi te permendesh shifrar 3-4 miljonshe popullatash, atehere te kujtoj qe Zvicra, apo Andora e Lihtenshtajni (jane nja 5 apo 6 ne Europe) ja kaen dale per bukuri te mbijetojne (e c'mbijetese bile) keto 100 vjetet e fundit!
Pavarsisht se cili do ishte intersi gjeostrategjik i Arrnautistanit (nuk do zgjatem me letyra ketu) me e udhes sigurisht do te ishte te ulej koka e te shihej puna (qe ka boll besa).
Se qelloi qe ne Arrnautistan ne krye vihen njerez te kategorise sate (Berish/Nano) kjo sigurisht nuk do perbeje fundin e Perandorise se Shenjte Ruse!
E shumta ky pis milet do haje bar (ne rastin me te mire) edhe per disa breza......
"The United States appear to be destined by Providence to plague America with misery in the name of liberty"
-Simón Bolívar
lol, ja edhe nje tjeter qe shef shpirtra! Per ke po me merr mor daj?
tashti po me ben dhe biografine ne baze te pseudonimit qe kam, lol,
Mos valle duhet te mendoj qe te gjithe teorite e tua mbeshteten mbi te dhena kaq te sakta dhe domethenese si pseudonimi im?
Ato qe permend ti me siper, nuk kane bere bolederrin as me amerike,as me bolshevike e as me nazi gjate LIIB, dhe qe ta marrç vesh ti, kane mbijetuar aq bukur me dhomt prej florini te çifutve.
Te ishin vene njerez te kategoris sime ne krye, tipat si ti do ishin çuar ne shkolle nga e para me detyrim.
Perandoria e Shenjte thote...... sikur te ishim ne mesjete.
Ja edhe nje qe ben çmos te duket i ndryshem nga kopeja. Pa na thuaj pak pse te duket ndryshe vetja? Apo edhe ti je nje nga ata te "zgjedhurit"? Apo te them te "vet zgjedhurit"?
When you are in it up to your ears, keep your mouth shut.
Ti je interesant vertete. I kthen gjerat sipas deshires, por pergjigjet e te tjereve duhet te jene me po/jo. Jam shprehur 100 here, eshte vizite historike persa i perket rangut. Kaq. Kur thote dhe antares (qe s'para bie dakort me te) nuk do zvarritem/i dreqi ta mare se mbase na ka bere perendia me shtylle kurizore. Plus qe jam shprehur se c'mendoj per popullin amerikan, dhe kete vend ku jetoj.
Por eshte e drejta ime te jap mendimin tim per kete president specifikisht. Nuk kam faj une qe popullariteti i tij eshte i ulet, jo vetem ne US por kudo ne bote.
Pastaj po te flasim per me tutje, specifikisht per ardhjen e tij ne Shqiperi, mbase ne biseda e siper ndermjet te tjerash do promovoje me shume "te mirat e AMBOs" psh, si projekt i nje firme sub-kontrantuese te Halliburton, firmes se nen-presidentit ("hipoteze" kjo) projekt per te cilin jam kategorikisht kunder. Mua dicka me ben pershtypje, individe si ti apo dhe te tjere, qe me te drejte ngrene larte vlerat e demokracise, por qe nuk i aderoheni kur behet fjale per komponente esenciale si shprehja e mendimit te lire.
Persa i perket "etalonit/poster child" etj, s'e kishe per LM? Po mire mor Albo, per cfare e kishe, per Asine, per Indonizine? Te me falesh, por sinqerisht qe nuk imagjinoj dot nje skenar te tille. Dmth 235 milione shoqeri te marre shembull, apo t'i adoptohet kushteve shoqerore te nje shteti me 3.5-4 milione banore.
Po e nenvizoje serish kete pjese. Kontraditat, apo paralelizmat dhe absurditetet historike ne kete fjali jane me kile. Qe po te rrija ta analizoja fjale per fjale, mund te shkruash nje liber pa merak. Ne pamundesi, do thosha kete qe myslymanizmi shqiptar (duke e trajtuar si fe dhe jo si popullesi, apo statistike) eshte zhvilluar historikisht ndryshe ne krahasim me vende te tjera myslymane. Dhe si i tille ka tipare te tjera. Plus, evolucioni i shoqerise shqiptare ne krahasim me vende te tjera te LM apo gjetke eshte i vecante. Ndaj nuk mund te behen paralelizma.Fakti qe nje popull mysliman si ai shqiptar perqafon me deshire demokracine dhe lirine dhe e kerkon me vetemohim e sinqeritet te pazakonte miqesine amerikane, jane arsyeja perse presidenti Bush eshte presidenti i pare amerikan ne historine shqiptare qe viziton Shqiperine.
Per me teper sot, ashtu sic eshte shprehur Kryeplaku, duke e pare pikerisht ne kete forum, jemi te gjithe te ndergjegjshem se brenda komunitetit myslyman shqiptar ka shume anetare qe "nuk kerkojne me vetemohim miqesine amerikane", perkundrazi, nisur nga faktore te ndryshem bashkekohor, apo nje distancim nga islami moderues tradicional shqiptar. Fenomeni i fundit, nuk eshte tipik vetem ne Shqiperi, por dhe ne komunitete myslymane ne Europe apo US.
PETITION
The Honorable George W. Bush
President of the United States
The White House
Washington, D.C. 20500
Dear Mr. President,
Your decision to visit Albania on June 10,2007, has
been greeted with great enthusiasm as a historic day
by ten million Albanians in the United States,
Albania, Kosova, Mace-donia, Montenegro, Serbia,
Greece, and around the world.
Your visit there will cement the existing cordial
relations and the very friendly feeling Albanians
nourish for the United States. Since the days of the
late President Woodrow Wilson’ s protection of
Albania’s independence to the near-providential
U.S.-led NATO intervention in Kosova, in 1999, there
has always been a strong and pervasive conviction
among Albanians that the United States is a land of
liberty and justice, a model of democracy with a
quasi-religious respect for the law, a beacon of hope
for oppressed people, and a proven ally of Albania,
and the Albanians. During your visit there, you will
find that Albanians are, reflexively and emotionally,
the most pro-American people in the Old Continent.
This is a major factor in guaranteeing Albania’s
contribution to peace and stability in the region.
Mr. President, in Albania you will find a population
resolved to reman faithful to the tradition of
freedom, and determined to honor in every individual
the human greatness we all possess. Having been for a
long time “the aggrieved party”, Albanians have not
fostered the illusions of “great design”, ‘thirst for
conquest”, or a “superiority complex” so dangerous to
themselves, and to their neighbors. They have
developed a natural propensity for solidarity with
oppressed people. Cruelly oppressed themselves, the
noble act of providing safe haven to victims of
cruelty, for them is a matter of national pride. This
display of humanity has been recorded during the WW II
years, with the protection of the distressed Greeks,
Italians, and especially Jews, and again in 1999, in
providing comfort and consolation to half million
Albanian Kosovars,victims of Serbian aggression.
In Albania today, you will find a general confidence
that after the shameful downfall of Communist
dictatorship in 1991, progress and prosperity will
come to Albania. You will find that Albanians know
enough, care enough, and are willing to work together
hard enough to make it come. There was confusion and
instability in Albanian society brought about by the
rapid changes, after 45 long years of violent and
forceful introduction of Communist arbitrary
legislation. One can still see the homo sovieticus in
a frightful dec-line in morals, a disregard for honor,
truth, piety, and the inevitable shameless corruption
President George W. Bush
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The accompanying general impoverishment, and the
discouraging decline in ethics are negatively
affecting the process of the country’s recovery.
Communism in Albania killed the elite, mistreated the
average, and glorified the inferior in mind and heart.
It is this Communist legacy that is still hounding
that country. Even today, by thinking of their
opponents as enemies, the political forces are showing
that they are willing to deal with each other with
force. Today, politics has been brutalized by a class
of new politicians who swear to democracy, but remain
willing prisoners of Communist mentali-ty. A nation
which suffers such trauma needs a generation to gain
perspective, and create a fertile political culture.
The tasks of social change are tasks for the
tough-minded and competent. Those who came to the task
with the currently fashionable mixture of passion and
incompetence
only added to the confusion. Albanian political
leaders have embraced the position which claims that
“my party” is “my country”. Thus, a culture of endless
rebellion has been created, coupled with a humiliating
tendency to constantly look to outsiders to gain an
advantage over rivals. Furthermore, the resulting
harmful silence of the majority has corrupted many
people’s moral fiber to the point that they seem
unable to recognize repressive regimes anymore, or to
forecast the uncertain future.
It is painful for me to state that almost everything
that has happened in Albania for the last sixteen
years is so preposterous that one can suspect a state
of fatal mental confusion on the part of Albanian
politicians. Their constant insistence on general
obedience, without understanding - a main feature in a
Communist society- has created a state of
quasi-servitude. It is corruption, it is inhumanity,
it is the opposite of a healthy tradition of
constructive dissent!
Mr. President, the political leadership in Albania
should be reminded that our relations with their
country are decided with due regard to the principles
of legality and morality, and not with reference to
the abominable disputes now being waged in a wild race
for absolute power. We must rely on people who work
hard and play by the rule. Albania needs an age of
critical reflection! Your message will be heard!
Mr. President. Today, the only tool I am left to
protect the powerless victims of Communist terror is
the written word in this Petition.
These victims have been neglected for a long time
by successive and insensitive administrations, led
mostly by hardcore former communists. Today, they feel
the danger of ending in oblivion. No one seems to be
able to help shape the cultural justice, and perhaps
find ways of addressing the injustices of the past and
present, by integrating the victims fully into the
society. One should visit the Museum of National
History, in
President George W. Bush
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Tirana. A small portion of it is the guardian of
universal suffering, a repository of the horrors of an
unimaginable world. Only then, one realizes that the
glorious generation
who opposed Communist dictatorship, who lived that
nightmare, is about to fade away. Very few are left to
stand up for the values of human rights and democracy.
We should give them a helping hand. We must dispel
their justified fears that communist death cells and
concentration camps of forced labor will ever again
find a place in Albania, in spite of man’s proven
capacity for infinite depravity. That’s their best
reward!
Mr. President, I implore you to meet with their
representatives, and assure them that these United
States will never forget them. I implore you to lift
their spirits!
Respectfully submitted,
Sami Repishti, Ph.D.
City University of New York
Former political prisoner
in communist Albania (1946-56), and,
in communist Yugoslavia (1959-60)
Human rights activist
cc: The Honorable Ambassador Marcie B. Ries
American Embassy
Tirana, Albania
Tranziti i Gjeorgj Bushit edhe ne Shqiperi
Nga te gjitha vizitat e personaliteteve te njohura shqiperisë deri me sot po cekim dy tri vizita madheshtore te pa harruara.
Vizita e Papa Gjon Palit II me 1992 dhe ai i Gjejms Bekerit.
Me kujtohen titujt e shtypit te asaje kohe si; Papa u ndal ne Shqiperi !Megjithese ishte nje vizitë e planifikuar ku tere shtypi botnor i pat kushtuar rendesi. Poashtu edhe Bekerit i dhan rendesi por tani Bushit nuk i jepin fare rendesi, nuk e di perse ?
Me duket se arsyeja qendron ngase Bush nuk viziton Shqiperine ne menyre direkte por ndzalet edhe ne Shqiperi pas nje serije vizitash neper europë prandaje edhe efekti nuk eshte i madh per te tjeret sa eshte per ne shqiptaret qe mezi presim ardhjen apo ndaljen e tije ne vendin tonë me nje dhurat ne dor, antarsimin e Shqiperise ne NATO qe e kemi pritur me dekada kete dite.
Mirepo neve do na beje kenaqesin Bushi po qe se ai te montonte ndonje fabrike motorri te veturave si ajo "Ford" apo uzina tjera si per aeroplanave....
Ju do me thoni se keto investime iu takojne biznismeneve e kapitaleve mirepo tani edhe politikanet shqiptar duhet te kerkojne investitor amerikan qe te zhvillohet ky vend se ç'eshte e verteta, ne ato vende qe eshte ngulitur amerika perpos bazave ushtarake dhe nje komercit te vogel rrethe bazave, asgje ne ato vende nuke eshte bere qe te perfitoje edhe ai popull nga kjo alianca e re qe po na mundesohet.
Ju kujtohet ndoshta miqesija me ruset; me kinezet me tjere e tjere por neve gjithenje jemi ndar keqe me secilin dhe ate ose nga mos dija jone se si te koeperojmi me njeri tjetrin shtete ose me te vertete neve na kan marrur per te pa pjekur ne kete lami.
Shpresojmi se kjo miqesija e tret do dali e vertet!
Ndryshuar për herë të fundit nga Kreksi : 05-06-2007 më 15:11
Te respektosh mikun, nuk ka te beje fare me "demokracine", ka te beje me nje nga virtytet e trasheguara shqiptare. Dhe te respektosh nje burre shteti, sado i dashur apo i urryer te jete ai ne bote, nuk ka te beje fare me preferencat personale politike te njerezve, ka te beje me kulturen demokratike te gjithesecilit. Kush respekton presidentin respekton voten e atij populli qe e ka zgjedhur ne ate post.Mua dicka me ben pershtypje, individe si ti apo dhe te tjere, qe me te drejte ngrene larte vlerat e demokracise, por qe nuk i aderoheni kur behet fjale per komponente esenciale si shprehja e mendimit te lire.
Kryenecesia nuk eshte virtyt, eshte ves i keq bile.
Albo
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