Evangjelistët amerikanë Falwell dhe Robertson solidarizohen me peshkopin Artemje

[murik]

Tele-evangjelistet Jerry Falwell dhe Pat Robertson i kane premtuar Vladikes Artemije se do te udheheqin nje fushate televizive per te bindur opinionin kunder pavaresise se Kosoves.Ata deklaruan se kane miqte e tyre ne nivele te larta te politikes dhe do te ndikojne qe ata te mos e perkrahin krijimin e nje shteti islamist qe do te ishte nje baze e Xhihadit islamist ne Europe.Vladika Artemije kerkon ndihmen e gjithe kristianeve per te parandaluar pavaresine e nje "grope te zeze" ku jetojne kriminele,trafikante,prostituta dhe islamista xhihadist.Eshte e cuditshme se si keta nuk lene gje pa thene kundra Kosoves dhe popullit te saj,por duan qe kjo toke te mbetet nen Serbi.Nuk e di se c'mendoni ju bashkatdhetare per kete ceshtje,dhe c'mendojne evangjelistet tane te dashur te forumit shqiptar te cilet luten per populline zgjedhur,por nuk i kam degjuar ndonjehere te luten per Kosoven.Sidoqofte Zoti do te jete ne anen e te drejtes,dhe nuk mendoj se i kemi hyre ne hak kujt,por kerkojme ate qe eshte e drejta jone legjtime,me ligje te Zotit e me ligje te njeriut.Rrofte pavaresia e plote e Kosoves.

[alibaba]

Intrige për të friguar shqipëtarët për të luajtur pastaj si të duan.
Nuk jemi forcë që duhet injoruar.Kanë ndryshuar raportet shqiptar-shkja këto 7 vite paslufte.

[Ermal 22]

Sa me shume kisha te shkaterrohen ne Kosov e sa me shume te vriten me atentate, aq me shum do perforcohet mendimi i evangjelisteve amerikane se edhe ne Kosov behet fjale thjesht per mysliman qe duan te heqin qafe te krishteret, pasiqe andej nga Amerika kuptohen pak si bardh e zi gjerat. Prandaj kosovaret tone nuk duhet qe ti acarojne punet tani qe dhe pavaresia esht afer. por te mos harrojme se edhe ketu ne forum jan sjell artikuj qe flasin dhe per prirje vehabiste dhe ne Kosov, prandaj nuk eshte per tu habit qe Artemija flet per xhihadista. Pastaj droga e prostitucioni jane shtuar ne Kosove gje qe i ben gjerat me keq. A e duam Kosoven? Bejani pra hyzmetin ju andej qe te mos i jepet shkak botes te flase se po e shifni vete ju situaten e ngarkuar me probleme qe po perjetohet ne vende te ndryshme te botes.

[kurkushi]

Sa me shume kisha te shkaterrohen ne Kosov e sa me shume te vriten me atentate, aq me shum do perforcohet mendimi i evangjelisteve amerikane se edhe ne Kosov behet fjale thjesht per mysliman qe duan te heqin qafe te krishteret, pasiqe andej nga Amerika kuptohen pak si bardh e zi gjerat. Prandaj kosovaret tone nuk duhet qe ti acarojne punet tani qe dhe pavaresia esht afer. por te mos harrojme se edhe ketu ne forum jan sjell artikuj qe flasin dhe per prirje vehabiste dhe ne Kosov, prandaj nuk eshte per tu habit qe Artemija flet per xhihadista. Pastaj droga e prostitucioni jane shtuar ne Kosove gje qe i ben gjerat me keq. A e duam Kosoven? Bejani pra hyzmetin ju andej qe te mos i jepet shkak botes te flase se po e shifni vete ju situaten e ngarkuar me probleme qe po perjetohet ne vende te ndryshme te botes.

Si u rrezuan si u ndertuan kisha sllave ne kosove,dobiçizmi eshte nje dhe perkrahja ketu s`eshte perkrahje por bashkeluftim i jodobiçisteve ne Kosove dhe ne tere boten!

[Qafir Arnaut]

US evangelists ‘join campaign to keep Kosovo within Serbia’
By Guy Dinmore in Washington

Published: October 5 2006 03:00 | Last updated: October 5 2006 03:00

Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, outspoken and influential televangelists in the US, are joining forces with Serbia’s Christian Orthodox church to campaign against independence for the mainly Muslim province of Kosovo, according to the spiritual leader of the Serb minority there.

Bishop Artemije, the most senior Orthodox cleric in Kosovo, said the two Christian broadcasters had promised to alert their followers and exert their influence.

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“They point out that they have friends at the highest level of government and will urge them to help us so that Kosovo remains in the borders of Serbia,” he said.

Diplomats in Washington say that whipping up Christian fervour in the US reflects the increasingly vitriolic and intolerant debate within Kosovo that occasionally spills over into violence.

Efforts on both sides are intensifying as the ethnic Albanian majority - overwhelmingly secular but with a majority tracing Muslim roots - lobbies hard for full independence.

Martti Ahtisaari, the United Nations mediator, is due to present his recommendations on final status by the end of the year. Kosovo has been a ward of the international community since 1999, when Nato bombed Serbia and occupied the province to stop further ethnic cleansing of the ethnic Albanians.

In an interview with the FT during his third visit to the US this year, Bishop Artemije set out the argument shaping the Serb case - that independence would provide a base for an “extremist Islamic jihad” and endanger the Balkans, Europe and the US.

Followers of the puritanical Wahhabi strain of Sunni Islam and al-Qaeda jihadists would be drawn there, he said. Already the province, under UN rule, was the “black hole” of Europe, run by criminal gangs trading in people, guns and drugs, while murderers and desecrators of churches and cemeteries were trying to “eradicate” the Christian community.

“It is unbelievable to see the US on one side declaring war on terror around the world and on the other side tolerating it in Kosovo,” he said.

Mr Falwell, a Baptist minister and Moral Majority founder, and Mr Robertson, the Christian broadcaster, have courted controversy in portraying what they see as the threat to the western world emanating from the nature of Islam.

In 2002 Mr Falwell provoked outrage among Muslims by calling the prophet Mohammed a “terrorist”. His comments led to deaths among rioters in the Indian city of Mumbai and he later apologised.

Mr Robertson is on record as saying that Islam “is anything but peaceful”, subjecting unbelievers to forced conversion or death. “It’s just that simple,” he said. Neither responded to FT queries about their reported offers of help to the Serbs.

While earlier this year it was commonly believed that the US backed full independence for Kosovo, analysts and diplomats believe there has been a recent shift towards a form of “conditional” independence that falls short of full sovereignty.

Asked if he felt he was making progress in his lobbying, Bishop Artemije answered: “We are still sowing the seeds and we have to wait for the final gathering of the crop.” He also said that since July he had felt “a different breeze” crossing the Atlantic. “All of this shows we are following the right path,” he said, urging the international community to let negotiations continue beyond this year. He endorsed Belgrade’s call for substantial autonomy for Kosovo.

Bishop Artemije cited an aide to Dick Cheney, the US vice-president, as saying he believed Kosovo would get “some form of independence”.

Diplomats said Boris Tadic, Serbian president, made a strong impression last month on Mr Cheney and Condoleezza Rice, secretary of state.

He projected Serbia as an ally in the “war on terror” while warning that independence for Kosovo could hand power at the next elections - probably in December - to the anti-western Radicals and Socialists.

Serbia has a growing military relationship with the US and is to send a small contingent of medics to Afghanistan and possibly personnel to Lebanon. Analysts say these are remarkable developments for an army still going through reforms since the atrocities committed against ethnic Albanian Muslims in the late 1990s.

Independent academic experts on Kosovo are highly sceptical of the notion that a new state would provide Islamist extremists with a foothold on the edge of Europe.

But they do recognise the danger of Kosovo becoming a weak state reliant on international aid and prone to exploitation by criminal gangs involved in drugs and human trafficking.

Anna Di Lellio, former adviser to Agim Ceku, the Kosovo Albanian prime minister, warned that a partially independent Kosovo could come to resemble the West Bank - with all the attendant political violence.

Stretched in Iraq and Afghanistan, the US is eager to draw down its 1,700 troops and police stationed inKosovo.

Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2006

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/e81e0fc4-540...0779e2340.html

[Qafir Arnaut]

Duke qene vete i 'brendshem' mund te deshmoj per injorancen akute dhe hipokrizine kolosale te shume evangelisteve Amerikane per ceshtje qe e kane burimin jashte ShBA-se. Artemija i paska mbushur mendjen atyre qe 'myslimanet' po na djegin ne 'te krishteret'.

Falwell, Robertson jane bin-Ladi-net e ShBA-se, dhe Artemija vertet paska gjetur kishe ku te falet!

Nesje, une po i shkruaj nje leter te dyve. Atij Robertsonit i kam shkruar nje here..dhe nje sekretar me ka kthyer pergjigje. Shkruaini ndonje leter edhe juve.

Fara e keqe e skizmes po qelb dynjane.

[alibaba]

Qafir arnaut në çfarë adrese t'i shkruajmë atyre derrkucave??

[Qafir Arnaut]

Megjithese nuk ia vlen(sic thoshte Jezusi) 'te hedhesh perla para derrave', une punen time e kryva. I kam cuar email te dy derrkucave. Te henen do i marr ne tel.

[Qafir Arnaut]

Caveat per ata qe vendosin ti shkruajne Falwell dhe Robertson:

duhet te jeni shume te kujdesem dhe ti zgjidhni fjalet mire. Sa me shkurt aq me mire. Dy pika duhet te theksohen (them une)

1. Kishat Katolike nuk u dogjen

2. Telefonatat e pergjuara te bera mes te arrestuarve per djegjen e kishave nuk permbanin asnje ton 'islamik'. Ato thjesht i gezoheshin faktit qe 'e dogjem Jugosllavine".


Keto dy pika e nxjerrin Artemijen rrenc pasi del qarte qe konflikti nuk eshte kristian vs. mysliman por Serb vs Shqiptar.

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Qafir

Te pergezoj per temen dhe te uroj suksese ne veprimtarine tende kunder derrgucave fanatik.