Myslimanët të ofenduar nga Papa

[shkodra13]

Mire qe shume s'kane lexue fjalen e Papes ne Regensburg dhe si delja pa e dite as vete pse solidarizohen me turmat qe protestojne per dicka qe s'kane lexue, por qe gjejne rast me shprehe urrejtje.
Mire qe solidarizoheni me ato qe deshmojne se jane "paqesore" me fjalet: "Do pushtojme edhe Romen si Kostantinopojen e ju s'ju ngelet zgjedhje tjeter o islamin o shpaten".
Mire qe s'keni lexue as sqarimin e Papes e prap tue ndie nji fjale ne televizion jeni te sigurte se Papa ka kerkue ndjese.
Mesojeni se Papa s'ka kerkue ndjese, por ka shprehe keqardhje per situaten e trazueme!!! Ne gazeten e Vatikanit teksti asht botue edhe arabisht ne se ndonjeni e din ma mire se shqipen.

[Gostivari_usa]

Sa per informate per te gjithe besimtaret kristian qe jane injoranta fjala "ISLAM" me te vertete dmth "PAQE" dhe fjala "MUSLIMAN" dmth " I NENSHTRUAR"

Ju mund te thuani se kjo eshte genjshetr e ku ta di une se cfar , si ta preferoni te verteten mesojeni gjuhen arabe e ndoshta atehere atehere do te bindeni me te verteten .

[xfiles]

Sa per informate per te gjithe besimtaret kristian qe jane injoranta fjala "ISLAM" me te vertete dmth "PAQE" dhe fjala "MUSLIMAN" dmth " I NENSHTRUAR"

Ju mund te thuani se kjo eshte genjshetr e ku ta di une se cfar , si ta preferoni te verteten mesojeni gjuhen arabe e ndoshta atehere atehere do te bindeni me te verteten .

kush po kundershton se fjala islam eshte paqe dhe mysliman eshte nenshtrim,
nenshtrimi eshte skllaveri,
megjithate edhe sikur fjalet me te bukura te ishin keto fjalet nuk kane vlere pa veprat, dhe veprat duken, edhe urdherimet e pejgamberit dhe kuranit duken.

dhe mjaft me me kete "nuk merrni vesh nga islami" se nuk eshte ashtu.

[Gostivari_usa]

Po te pyes edhe nje here: c'pune paska Papa me krijime aleancash trans-atlantike?

Shum thjesht . Pergjigjen kerkoje tek thenia e shkrimtarit te madh Bernard Shou . I cili ka thene : Citim" Nqs europes i kanoset ndonje rezik, atehere ai rezik i vjen nga besimi i perkryer islam"
E di pse e ka thene kete ?!!! Sepse qe ne kohen e tij njerezit kane ndruar fene dhe jane bere muslimane edhe ate pa dhune .
Sot krejt bota e pranon faktin qe feja MUSLIMANE eshte feja qe perhapet me shpejt ne bote , dhe ja , ky eshte fakti pse bota krishtere po mundohet ne cfar do lloj menyre te degjeneroj fenen MUSLIMANE.
Krejt kjo qe ndodh sot ata jene vepra te vet kristianeve , dhe pastaj fajin ai hudhin muslimaneve , si psh rasti i 11/9 ne amerike oki.
Nese ke kunder kesaj qe e shkruaj ateher benu ti ai i pari ne bote e na trego se cfar i ra "Pentagonit" po jo me pallavra , me fakte , na sjell filmime. Sepse 5 vite jane be nga ai akt terrorist te cilen vet kristianet e bene dhe sot e kesaj dite nuk dihet se cfar i ra "Pentagonit"

[xfiles]

po mire
pse shkrimtari i madh flet per "rrezik".
nese islami eshte i perkryer atehere nuk ka pse te ekzistoje asnje "rrezik".

Ajo dihet qe ka njerez qe e pranojne islamin pa dhune,
po islami perdor edhe dhunen nese njerezit nuk e pranojne me deshire.

[shkodra13]

Sa per informate per te gjithe besimtaret kristian qe jane injoranta fjala "ISLAM" me te vertete dmth "PAQE" dhe fjala "MUSLIMAN" dmth " I NENSHTRUAR"

Ju mund te thuani se kjo eshte genjshetr e ku ta di une se cfar , si ta preferoni te verteten mesojeni gjuhen arabe e ndoshta atehere atehere do te bindeni me te verteten .

Para se me u ankue se te krishtenet nuk e dine qe Islam d.m.th. "paqe", mesonja arabishten atyne qe tue perdore kete emen vrasin e presin çdo dite njerez te pafajshem, mes tyne shume muslimane.
Mire une, po a thue Bin Laden nuk e din arabishten? Po ato qe kercenojne se do pushtojme Romen? Po ato qe kercenojne se s'keni zgjedhje tjeter ose islamin ose shpaten a e dine? Po ato qe djegin e vrasin a e dine?
Ne se asht si thue ti, athere del qe te krishtenet e njofin islamin ma mire se shume muslimane.

Ato po shpetoi nga injoranca e tregoi perkthimin.

[iliria e para]

ketok jane simbole fetare, por mbi te gjithat qendron simboli i paqes

Papa nuk besoj se din per islamin, duhet te lexoj keto te gjithat , atehere te japin komentet si ajo per shpaten...
http://www.islamfortoday.com/shia.htm , ose edeh keto ketu http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQ...slam_sects.htm

Duhet edhe keto ti mesoje

* 1.1 Sunni
* 1.2 Shi'a
* 1.3 Sufi

# 2 Sunni schools of thought

* 2.1 Hanafi
* 2.2 Hanbali
* 2.3 Maliki
* 2.4 Shafi'i

# 3 Shi'a Sects

* 3.1 Jafari
* 3.2 Ismailiyah
* 3.3 Zaiddiyah
* 3.4 Alawi
* 3.5 Alevi
* 3.6 Dawoodi Bohras

# 4 Kharijite Sects

* 4.1 Ibadi
* 4.2 Sufri

# 5 Kalam Schools

* 5.1 Ash'ari
* 5.2 Maturidi
* 5.3 Murjite
* 5.4 Mu'tazili

# 6 Sufi Orders

* 6.1 Bektashi
* 6.2 Qadiri
* 6.3 Naqshbandi
* 6.4 Suhrawardiyya
* 6.5 Chishti Order

# 7 Other sects

* 7.1 Zikri
* 7.2 Ahmadiyya
* 7.3 Moorish Science
* 7.4 Nation of Islam

# 8 Movements within sects

* 8.1 Barelwi
* 8.2 Deobandi
* 8.3 Salafism
* 8.4 Wahhabism
* 8.5 Liberals
* 8.6 Islamism
* 8.7 Tablighi Jama'at

# 9 Related Faiths

* 9.1 Yazidi
* 9.2 Druze
* 9.3 Bábism
* 9.4 Bahá'í
* 9.5 Submitters
* 9.6 Five Percenters

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divisions_of_Islam

[Qafir Arnaut]

Pope Benedict Criticizes Islam
by Daniel Pipes
New York Sun
September 19, 2006

[NY Sun title: "The West Should Be Free To Criticize Islam"]

"Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."

These words, expressed six centuries ago by a Byzantine emperor, Manuel II Paleologus, in dialogue with an Iranian scholar, spur three reflections.

Pope Benedict XVI offered the above quote, neither endorsing nor condemning it, in his academic speech, "Faith, Reason and the University: Memories and Reflections," delivered in German last week in Germany. It served to introduce his erudite critique of the Western concept of reason since the Enlightenment.

But did he have other purposes? The head of the Benedictine order, Abbot Notker Wolf, understood the pope's quote as "a blatant allusion to [Iran's President Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad." Vatican insiders told the London Sunday Times that Benedict "was trying to pre-empt an aggressive letter aimed at the papacy by the president of Iran, which was why he cited the debate involving a Persian."

First reflection: Benedict has offered elusive comments, brief statements, and now this delphic quotation, but he has not provided a much-needed major statement on this vital topic of Islam. One hopes it is in the offing.

Whatever the pope's purpose, he prompted the near-predictable furor in the Muslim world. Religious and political authorities widely condemned the speech, with some calling for violence.

In Britain, while leading a rally outside Westminster Cathedral, Anjem Choudary of Al-Ghurabaa called for the pope "to be subject to capital punishment."
In Iraq, the Mujahideen's Army threatened to "smash the crosses in the house of the dog from Rome" and other groups made blood-curdling threats.
In Kuwait, an important website called for violent retribution against Catholics.
In Somalia, the religious leader Abubukar Hassan Malin urged Muslims to "hunt down" the pope and kill him "on the spot."
In India, a leading imam, Syed Ahmed Bukhari, called on Muslims to "respond in a manner which forces the pope to apologise."
A top Al-Qaeda figure announced that "the infidelity and tyranny of the pope will only be stopped by a major attack."
The Vatican responded by establishing an extraordinary and unprecedented security cordon around the pope. Further away, the incitement spurred some violence, with more likely on the way. Seven churches were attacked in the West Bank and Gaza, one in Basra, Iraq (prompting this ironic headline at the "RedState" blog: "Pope implies Islam a violent religion ... Muslims bomb churches"). The murder of an Italian nun in Somalia and two Assyrians in Iraq also appear connected.

Second reflection: this new round of Muslim outrage, violence, and murder has a by-now routine quality. Earlier versions occurred in 1989 (in response to Salman Rushdie's novel, The Satanic Verses), 1997 (when the U.S. Supreme Court did not take down a representation of Muhammad), 2002 (when Jerry Falwell called Muhammad a terrorist), 2005 (the fraudulent Koran-flushing episode), and February 2006 (the Danish cartoon incident).

Vatican leaders tried to defuse the pope's quote, as well as his condemnation of jihad (holy war). The papal spokesman, Federico Lombardi, S.J., said Benedict did not intend to give "an interpretation of Islam as violent. … inside Islam there are many different positions and there are many positions that are not violent." Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, the secretary of state, indicated that the pope "sincerely regrets that certain passages of his address could have sounded offensive to the sensitivities of the Muslim faithful."

Then, in what may be an unprecedented step by a pope, Benedict himself proffered the sort of semi-apology often favored by those feeling the heat. "I am deeply sorry for the reactions in some countries to a few passages of my address," reads the official Vatican translation into English, "which were considered offensive to the sensibility of Muslims. These in fact were a quotation from a medieval text, which do not in any way express my personal thought."

In the Italian original, however, Benedict says only sono rammaricato, which translates as "I am disappointed" or "I regret."

Third reflection: the Muslim uproar has a goal: to prohibit criticism of Islam by Christians and thereby to impose Shariah norms on the West. Should Westerners accept this central tenet of Islamic law, others will surely follow. Retaining free speech about Islam, therefore, represents a critical defense against the imposition of an Islamic order.

[Homza]

Ju muslimanet jeni bere per lobotomi e terapi shoku. Diagnoza ime per ju eshte 'skizofreni kolektive'.

Nuk pashe asgje fyese ne ate artikull. Sidoqofte, ky Pape nuk eshte nga ata qe perkulen para hipokrizise Myslimane. Nderkohe qe myslimanet qahen per fyerje te paqena, te Krishteret nen zoterimet e tyre vuajn nga diskriminimi i LIGJSHEM. Ky Pape, pra, eshte nga ata qe kur te vije dita vertet do ja plase ne fytyre imameve me korrespondence te Al-Azharit, Kajros, Stambollit, Tehranit, dhe Parlamentit te Pakistanit. Fatkeqsisht kjo dite nuk ishte kete jave. Prandaj ju diagnostikova si 'skizofrene'.

Une nuk di se cfar feje ti i perket, vetem du te them qe duhet me ja nderru emerin ne feja e Budalles, aje do jesh i pashok fare.

Edhe Papa jo qe po perkulet perpara mslimaneve por ngaqe ka mendje pak e tru hic, ai po merr tjeret si puna e Angela Merker kancelares, te kerkoj falje dhe te si shkak te marr grushta turive per shkak te nje budallalliku te Mr Papes.

Edhe pse nuk kam qef te hy debateve te feve, ngaqe nuk jam shum i apasionum pas saj, une ty te ka verejt qe shpesh ke ofendu muslimanet kot a si koti pa dit gjo se ca te del nga goja apo se cka ta ban truri.

Une dua ter them nje gje, cfardo qe te jene muslimanet, biles te pakten pederast nuk jane. Mund edhe te kete te tille ama, ata nuk vihen te paret e xhamive ne fakt ata jan te perjashtuar fare nga muret e shtepise se ZOtit dmth xhammise.

Kurse ju katoliket, kaq shum pederast keni neper kisha saqe ju nuk mund te queni as fe me, ju mund ter quheni nje tuf apo grup pederastesh qe luftoni per te drejtat tuaja.

T'me falin katoliket tjere, une kete sms ja drejtoj vetem Qafirit se na ka ca kryt ky cop teneqeje e shtremt.

[alibaba]

Po Qafiri nuk po i shan shqipëtarët, po ata Aziatikët edhe këta tipat tonë që po e mbrojnë Bin lladenin.
Nëse unë e praktikoj Jogën, kjo nuk do të thotë se duhet t'i mbrojë kinezët apo Japonezët.Gjithashtu mund të besoj në ato perënditë hinduse dhe nuk kam nevojë të çajë kokën për hallet e Hindusëve.