Sunday Times: Shqipëria, tokën që e ka harruar koha

[Antipatrea]

Hipokrizia e nje shkrimi perballe realitetit shqiptar. Shiko se cfare lajmi erdhi ne kutine time postare, dhe ne kutite tuaja postare nga Google News:

Femija shqiptar "brain dead" nga te rrahurat e prinderve te tij

Gjera qe ndodhin apo jo? Sa prej jush u indinjuan dhe protestuan e kerkuan denimin maksimal per ata prinder shqiptare qe abuzojne femijet e tyre ne kete menyre te paimagjinueshme? Sa prej jush indinjoheni nga jetimet ne rruget e Tiranes apo prostitutat shqiptare ne rruget e Evropes? Kuvendi i Shqiperise kthehet ne nje akt te shemtuar rrugacerie ku duket sikur jetojne derra e jo njerez, por askush nga ju nuk ka denjuar te shkruaje qofte edhe nje shkrim proteste per ata deputetet shqiptare qe shqyejne podiume, hedhin grushta dhe sharrje nga me banalet ne ate qe duhet te jete djepi i demokracise shqiptare.

Sigurisht, nuk keni kohe per kete "lloj realiteti" jeni shume te zene duke mbrojtur nderin e shqiptareve qe na e shkeli me kembe nje reporter skocez qe eshte askushi.

Albo

Bravo Aldo "shqiptari"...
Artillin qe ke postuar se mora mundimin ta lexoj, sepse titulli i thote te tera. Dhe te gjitha ato pyetje qe ti parashtron jane te drejta. Por ama ti smund te thuash se te njejtat gjera nuk ndodhin ne Europen e qyteteruar apo ne Amerike. Mjafton tu hedhesh nje sy gazetave, dhe cdo dite do te ndeshesh me prinder te depresionuar qe vrasin femijet e tyre (rasti me i fresket ishte para disa ditesh ne Amerike), por kjo ste jep te drejten ty Albo te thuash se amerikanet jane popull qe vrasin femijet e tyre. Rekordin e shtatzanise ne bote e mban nje angleze 9 vjecare. Imagjinoje, nje 9 vjecare shtatzane...por kjo a ta jep te drejten ty Albo te thuash se anglezet jane popull i degjeneruar??? Ne nje seance te parlamentit italian opozitaret nxoren litaret dhe iu drejtuan pozites me fjalet : Ketu kemi per tju varur ! Cduhet te themi sipas teje Albo, italianet skane kulture demokratike?
Po per qindrat e prostitutave angleze, italiane e ku di une se cfare, qe u bejne shoqeri kolegeve shqiptare e ruse neper semafore cdo nate cduhet te themi, sipas llogjikes tende???
Ti nuk mund ta gjukosh nje popull te tere nisur nga raste te vecuara i nderuar Albo. Sigurisht qe nje baba qe vret femijen e vet e denon gjithe opinioni, dhe ne shqiptaret, per vet vlerat familjare qe mbart shoqeria shqiptare, akte te tilla i denojmeme shume se kushdo popull tjeter.
Por meqe ti po na i servir shqiptaret si birvrases, dhe ne te njejten kohi i thua vetes shqiptar, atehere kam nje pyetje per ty : A do e vrisje ti femijen tend si shqiptar qe je Albo?

[kolombi]

Sa kane ndryshuar koherat............................

Dikur nje anetare e OKB-se nga Finlanda vizitonte Shqiperine ne vitet e pare te demokracise.
Para se te ikte beri nje deklarate,midis shume te tjerave komente te hidhura na perplasi edhe komentin e meposhtem.
"Jeni kaq te varfer,sa nuk ka ku tu kap as qeni..................."



Eh,kush kish kohe te revoltohej,edhe patriotizmi ishte brishtesuar si demokracia e lindur pas mese 50-vjeteve.

[joss]

Pas insistimit të shqiptarëve botohen letrat e ambasadorit dhe dy të huajve me nota pozitive

“The Sunday Times” një faqe pro Shqipërisë


Kryeredaktori: Ndjesë, por faktet nuk mohohen


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Revista britanike “The Sunday Times”, ka botuar dje opinionet e tre personazheve që ngrenë lart virtyte të shqiptarëve, ndryshe nga artikulli i botuar vetëm një javë më parë nga A.A. Gill. Ambasadori shqiptar në Londër Kastriot Robo, shkrimtari dhe publicisti Noel Malkolm që ka shkruar mbi origjinën e shqiptarëve, si dhe një punonjës që ka qëndruar në Ballkan prej më shumë se 20 vjetësh, James Doherty, shprehen me tone të larta vlerësimi për shqiptarët. Nga ana tjetër, ata shpërfillin dhe kritikojnë artikullin e gazetarit A.A.Gill të datës 23 korrik 2006, me titull “Toka e harruar prej kohës”. Nga ana tjetër, kryeredaktori i revistës britanike, Robin Morgan është shprehur në përgjigje të interesimit të shumë shqiptarëve, se gazetari A.A.Gill është një publicist i pavarur që paguhet me honorare nga revista, që do të thotë sipas tij se nuk mund të komandohet. Sipas kryeredaktorit të “The Sunday Times”, shprehet se autori i artikullit fyes njihet për gazetari provokative dhe një ndjenjë humori. Ndërsa në faqet e djeshme të revistës “Malcolm” dhe “Doherty”, shprehen se shqiptarët njihen si njerëz punëtorë, bujarë dhe besnikë, e nuk mund të bëhet një vlerësim aq fyes sa ai në materialin e A.A.Gill.
Vërejtjet
Por edhe kryeredaktori Morgan shprehet në përgjigjen e tij se nuk mund të injorohen disa fakte të sjella sipas tij, nga raporte të Departamentit Britanik për Zhvillim Ndërkombëtar, UNICEF, Departamentit të Shtetit, etj. Morgan thotë se UNICEF-i thotë se “Trafikimi, puna e detyruar dhe shfrytëzimi seksual janë të përditshme”. Raporti i Amnisty International thotë se 40 për qind e grave shqiptare janë subjekte të dhunës shtëpiake dhe nuk ekziston asnjë ligj që e ndalon këtë gjë. Zyra Britanike e Marrëdhënieve me Jashtë, paralajmëron që të mos udhëtohet në disa zona të Shqipërisë, për shkak të përhapjes së madhe të armëve dhe kriminalitetit. Po sipas panoramës së dhënë nga kryeredaktori i revistës, Departamenti Amerikan i Shtetit këshillon udhëtarët në drejtim të Shqipërisë se, “organizata kriminale veprojnë në të gjitha rajonet dhe korrupsioni është shumë i madh”. Ai i referohet shifrave të dhëna edhe në faqen në internet të organizatës MJAFT, ku thuhet se 9.000 fëmijë shqiptarë janë trafikuar për prostitucion dhe 250.000 armë janë në qarkullim. Me të gjitha këto fakte, Morgan thotë se nuk mund të mbyllen sytë, por duke kërkuar falje për fyerjen ndaj kombit.

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[floflo]

Kam lexuar artikullin dhe tani sapo lexova te gjitha postimet ne kete teme.

E vetmja gje qe mund te them eshte No comment!

No comment per nje shkrim aq tendecioz dhe te pabazuar. Nje pergjithesim i vlerave negative qe mund te kete secili komb. Por ne fakt ajo qe me la pa fjale me shume se artikulli i shkruar nga nje Skocez jane postimet e disa prej anetareve te forumit te cilet ne nje menyre apo tjeter perkrahin nje gje te tille duke i dhene te drejte nje te huaji te perdhos historine, kulturen, gjuhen dhe identitetin tone si Shqiptar qofte ne Shqiperi, Kosove, Maqedoni apo diku tjeter.

NE cdo shoqeri te botes mund te shohim problemet e renditura nga autori i artikullit. Edhe ne Amerike ke probleme te tilla, ke te pastrehe, ke prostituta, ke vjedhje, vrasje, krime, droge por nje Amerikan vazhdon te jete krenar ne faktin qe ai eshte Amerikan. Dhe Amerika prap se prap vazhdon te jete shembulli i demokracise.

Cdo shtet ka historine, kulturen dhe identitetin qe duhet rrespektuar dhe nuk duhet cenuar. Dhe ne Shqiptaret kemi nje histori qe duhet te mburremi. Nder shekuj kemi qene pre e te huajve por kurre sjemi shuar por kemi ruajtur kulturen, traditen, gjuhen dhe vlerat tjera qe na karakterizojne si Shqiptar. Dhe kjo per mua eshte krenari dhe me teper se kaq. Sa luftra kane perballuar te paret tane per te krijuar kte qe kemi sot, per te ruajtur identitetin tone si komb dhe tani tipa te tille qe skane guxim te perballen me veshtiresit e jetes preferojne te nderrojne identitet per te pasur nje jete. E cfare jete keni kur nuk ke identitet, kur shkel ne te kaluaren duke perbuzur te paret.


Tani shtrohet pyetja - Pse ne Shqiptaret duhet te jemi aq te perulur para te tjereve saqe edhe kur na shajne dhe ofendojne te tjeret duhet tu themi hallall se mire e keni, ne e kemi fajin? Pse Shqiptari duhet te ul koken, te ndrroj emer per te arritur dicka? KJo per mua eshte e papranueshme.

Duhet te pergezoj postimet e tere atyre qe reaguan duke mbrojtur ate cfare skocezi u mundua te perdhose.

[floflo]

Sir,
It is with utter disgust and disappointment that I read the above article by AA
Gill (link at the bottom of this email). Never have I seen insults and language
of this calibre used against the Albanian people or any other people for that
matter be it in the British press or that abroad. I can understand that
sensational journalism yields interest in readers, as a result more advertising
revenue for yourselves, nonetheless writing fallacy and non factual journalism
can create the opposite reaction. As a proud Albanian citizen I have the moral
obligation and the urge to set some things straight with regards to Mr Gill's
article. Sadly for me, I cannot use the same language content as him given as I
am a lady!
On famous or infamous Albanians, again the article could not be further from the
truth. Our roots go back to Alexander the Great, Mohamed Ali (King of Egypt),
Kemal Ata Turk (Ruler of modern Turkey), Skanderbeg (Albanian King and
invincible fighter of the Ottomans). Only lately was another famous Albanian
awarded the price of Man Booker Award here in the UK; to aid Mr Gill's ignorance
it is Ismail Kadare I am referring to. John and James Belushi (actors) are also
Albanian and so is Eliza Dushku (actress) and Inva Mula (soprano), George Tenet
(CIA official). Should Mr Gill need further information on the horrid
personality of Albanians he only need read Childe Harold by Lord Byron, a
countrymen of Mr Gill who loved Albania so much he spent years there. An article
like yours would make Edith Durham (who dedicated her life to the Albanian
cause) turn in her grave and the connoisseurs of Albanian culture and history
like Edwin Jacques (American Historian), Noel Malcolm (Oxford Historian) turn
away with disgust. I could almost excuse his ignorance of Albanian history and
culture, if it were not for the fact that it is this history we have written
with our blood in fighting for our right to exist as a nation!
The article starts with a degrading comment on a world-renown figure and now
Saint, Mother Teresa. In fact no major comments are required on Mother Teresa's
life and accomplishments as this will be known to most of us. Her deeds,
generosity and dedication were not in "helping people die" but in actual facts
in helping them live! It is with great pride that we can say she was an Albanian
woman, and a great one at that! I wonder if Mr Gill ever helped one live or die
for that matter! Quite shameful is all I can say. As for Albanian girls, their
tops and peroxide Mr Gill only needs to visit Glasgow on a Friday night or Essex
on any given day!
With regards to the religious split in Albania, Mr Gill is quite the
"statistician" just as he is a "historian", "anthropologist", dedicated
"phonetics researcher" "fashionista" and expert in "aesthetic dentistry". He is
in addition quite the seeker for late night "entertainment". Little does he know
that religion matters less to the Albanians than does their identity, one which
they have fought for centuries to maintain. A component of this identity is the
Albanian language, quite distinct as Mr Gill mentions, and one we are proud to
have as a nation. It is of little importance or concern what he thinks of the
language as it is the technicality of this very language that makes us able to
pronounce other languages to the extent that most Albanians you meet will speak
at least one more language in addition to their native Albanian. It is in fact
quite commendable that we have kept our language given all the occupations and
invasions Albania has been through. Since Mr Gill was so impressed with the
words "shitet" he should perhaps enquire on the meaning of the English word
"car" in Albanian!
Mr Gill has made an observation on a country by briefly visiting one or two
cities with his negativity already set as a bias. There are not 4 million
Albanians in the world, one needs to account for the Albanians in Kosova,
Macedonia, Turkey, Italy and Montenegro without even adding those who have
migrated following the communist era! You'd better check those facts before you
splash on long articles, ridicule and generalise honest hard working people by
casting them as criminal gangsters. By doing so you have not only offended those
4 million Albanians but at least x2 that number.
Crime is part of society and of course will be present in developing economies.
But you only need to go as far as Finchley Road on London to get mugged, or
Peckham to get killed. As far as pimping goes, it is a shame that all this
demand is coming out of Britain. Basic law of supply and demand is what explains
the fact that Mr Gill was unable to find red light districts or "entertainment"
shops in Tirana, because that Mr Gill is not who we are as a people!! If however
you are looking for such entertainment, you only need to go to the next Slug &
Lettuce where you will find drunken people willing to do all after downing a few
dozen pints. Yes we do value family, tradition and our values above all because
that is what makes us Albanians, be it from the north, south or across the
borders which were so horribly divided at the London conference in 1913, and the
Paris Conference in 1919, but where you overstepped the border is you offended
our identity and that Albanians cannot forgive.
Mr Gill should leave old Albanian people and youngsters alone, they need no
lessons from an angry pathetic imperialistic Scot on how to live their lives or
maintain their teeth, meanwhile he should worry about when to next polish his
veneers and where to go next on holiday or buy his third house! Nor do we
require teaching on how to dress by a man carrying such a hat or sunglasses.
Surely we do not need lessons of the kind you are giving to Iraq, Afghanistan or
Lebanon. It is no longer the thirties when you could write amusing comments
about little Albania so you could fill your pockets and the rest their Sunday
afternoons. One cannot possibly base judgements and cast all Albanians as
drug-dealers and criminals. If that were the case how come so many Brits are
trusting Albanians to invest their money, manage their businesses, carry out
genome reasearch projects at Oxford or Cambridge, teach at LSE, Imperial
College, Exeter and Oxford Brookes University?! To be the biggest group of
foreigners from just one country at the EBRD, Goldman Sachs etc? And this is
only a modest minimal sample of Albanians in the UK alone, let us not even
mention achievements in other countries or abroad. There is a strong Albanian
community in the UK and one which shall respond to articles like this which are
are dangerous and only create hatred. I am quite positive you shall receive a
lot more comments following mine, if you haven't done so already, but I need to
express my shock at publishing such an insulting article with no clear balance
and a distinct purpose of darkening the image of Albanians. There is no mention
of Albanian hospitality, friendliness and kind-hearted attitude. No mention of
the nature and the beautiful land that Shakespeare although he had never visited
cast as a scene in his play "The Twelfth night". And enough of that Norman
Wisdom stupidity, it is such old journalism it bores to death. I blame the
editor as much as the imbecile that wrote this garbage of an article.
If you do the maths: -100,000 * 365 = -36.5 million newspaper sales per year at
the age of media consent, I suppose this could be the impact of this stupid
clown's affair that Mr Gill bothered to classify as an article. Perhaps it is
the money language you can understand as there are 100,000 Albanians living and
working in the UK, and I shall make it my personal business to make them aware
of the lunacy written on their behalf in the Sunday Times. The minimal response
we demand as a community is an apology and as a nation to be left in peace.
E. Hoxha
Ella Hoxha
Fund Manager
Global Bonds
INVESCO Asset Management
30 Finsbury Square
London EC2A 1AG
(: 44 (0) 207 065 3882
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[D@mian]

Qe artikulli ka te verteta te hidhura, kjo eshte e vertete.
Qe shqiptaret duhet te nxjerrin mesime eshte gjithashtu e vertete.
Qe ka akoma shuuume pune per t'u bere dhe shuuume mendje per t'u ndrequr, eshte me se e vertete.

Por, qe pikenisja e autorit nuk ka qene aspak pozitive apo e paanshme-me duket se kjo eshte dicka qe duhet pranuar.

Ne pergjithesi jam kundra teorive dhe prirjeve per te gjetur "komplote antishqiptare" kudo. Nje shkrim i tille mund te vinte nga kushdo, pa ndonje prapavije te caktuar politike, pa "qene i paguar" nga askush etj. Ne fakt me nervozojne njerezit qe mendojne ne kete menyre, a la sindrome persekutimi.

Por, pasi hodha nje sy kalimthi ne websitin e ketij Gillit, http://www.travelintelligence.net/nuk mund te mos me binte ne sy emri nje prej gazetareve-bashkepunetore/artikullxhi te kesaj faqeje. Behet fjale per gazetarin internetist Christopher Deliso; per ata qe nuk e njohin, mjafton te shtypin ne Google "Christopher Deliso Kosovo" ose "Christopher Deliso Albanians" e te tilla te ngjashme, qe te shohin permbajtjen e artikujve te tij. Ky person eshte nje nga agjitatoret me te medhenj pro-serbe dhe anti-shqiptare ne shtypin e shkruar, por sidomos ate internetik. Nuk behet fjale per vetem per nje simpatizuez te serbeve ose thjesht nje gazetar pro-serb, por, pa ekzagjeruar fare, per nje propagandist te shkalles me te larte. Ky person eshte nje makine e vetete propagande qe mund ta kene zili edhe gazetat nacionaliste te Beogradit-jane me dhjetera, ndoshta edhe mbi njeqind, artikuj te tij te botuar ne faqe te ndryshme te medias mainstream ose asaj alternative.

Perseri nuk po them qe shkrimi pati medoemos prapavije politike (p.sh. tani ne gjate bisedimeve te Kosoves), por personalisht nuk mund te betohem qe mundesia per kete eshte 0%.

[Edvin83]

E kam lexuar shkrimin dhe megjithese eshte nje parodi paksa e ekzagjeruar, nuk kemi pse te hidhemi perpjete se shumica e atyre qe thote jane te verteta. Njeriu duhet te sulmoje tjetrin kur thote shpifje e te paverteta por jo kur ai permend te verteta evidente. Ne te vertete pjesa per gjuhen apo historine eshte raciste por pjeset tjera te shkrimit jane shume aktuale dhe nuk ka pse te na djege, nuk mbulohet dielli me shoshe. Siodomos ajo pjesa per Bllokun eshte shume bukur e pershkruar. Une jam patriot ultranacionalist por nuk jam iracional( i paarsyeshem),
ato qe ai ka dhene aty jane semundjet e kombit dhe ne nuk duhet te behemi paciente kokeforte qe nuk pranojme qe jemi te semure.
Nderi i kombit ka shkuar per lesh dhe kete mund ta shohesh kudo. Jemi nje vend qe trumbetojme qe kemi besen por ne fakt jemi i vetmi vend ku nuk i kihet bese asnjeriu se nuk je i sigurte per asgje. Jemi nje vend qe mbahet si me i ndershmi por jemi vendi me nr me te madhe te prostitutave po te nisemi nga nr i popullsise qe kemi. Dhe paradoksi i tere ketij vendi qe jemi ne eshte Blloku ku "nderi" i kombit paraqitet me te gjithe arsenalin e tij. Ajo qe nuk me pelqen te shqiptaret eshte hipokrizia me kulm. Hiqen si me te ndershmet dhe jane me k***kur*at.
Kjo eshte ajo qe cdo i huaj ve re kur vjen te Blloku. Te njejtat fjale kam degjuar nga cdo i huaj, prandaj kur thuhet nga shume vete i duhet vene pak gishti kokes....

[Failed Rapper]

Whatever he says, it is correct! (Per EDVIN83)
Per mua mire e ka, ate qe e kemi, e kemi!

[Livia5]

By Henry Andreae

Thursday, 3 August 2006

The Sunday Times faces the threat of legal action for inciting racial hatred after a piece by AA Gill branded Albanians "short and ferret-faced".

The feature, headlined "The Land That Time Forgot", was published in the Sunday Times Magazine on 23 July, and detailed Gill's visit to the Balkan state.
He described the country as "a Ruritania of brigands and vendettas" and the people as "short and ferretfaced, with the unisex stumpy, slightly bowed legs of Shetland ponies".
Gill also described the Albanian language as "a ready-made code for criminals", adding: "There are four million Albanian citizens… three million of them live at home, the fourth quarter work abroad, and what they do is mostly illegal."
The article has angered Albanians around the world, and has been picked up by all the major newspaper and TV stations in Albania.
In the UK, Mjaft — an Albanian organisation that aims to promote the country's image throughout the world — has been in consultation with lawyers regarding possibile legal action against The Sunday Times.
The director of the group's London branch, Ralf Gjoni, said: "We don't mind criticism of Albania, because we are the first critics ourselves. But this was pure racism, and is inciting racial hatred in the UK.
"The article and the language of Gill inspires more prejudice and hatred in the British public, among employers and among businesses that are considering potential investment in Albania. It damages [Albania's] image and it damages trade relations, but above all it incites pure racial hatred and intolerance towards us in the UK."
In a letter to Sunday Times editor John Witherow, Albanian ambassador to the UK Kastriot Robo described the article as "unrealistic, negative, harsh, racist, anti-Albanian, denigrating and offensive to the Albanian people, nation and state", adding that the feature was "worthy of a tabloid".
Following the intense criticism of Gill's article, The Sunday Times last week published three letters in opposition to the piece — including an edited version of the ambassador's letter.
Sunday Times Magazine editor, Robin Morgan, defended Gill's article. He told Press Gazette: "Whether [Gill] writes about the Welsh, the English or the Germans there's always a reaction. I think people just read it literally rather than for the enjoyment of his attitude."
He described the article as Gill's "usual acerbic stuff", adding: "I think an awful lot of what he was saying was lost in translation. Most people see it for what it is, but the problem is that many Albanians think that he's being very unfair to the country. But the negatives are there and they exist."
This is not the first time that Gill has courted controversy. In 1997, he was reported to the police for inciting racial hatred after describing the Welsh as "ugly, pugnacious little trolls". Two years later he was again criticised for an article entitled "Hunforgiven", in which he spoke of his "hate" of Germans.