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    Mirė se vini nė Harlan Maska e FreeByrd
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    Pall Mall Gazette, March 17th 1903
    From An Albanian’s Point of View

    by M.E.Durham

    “Englishmans,” said the Tame Albanian, “silly mans! No understand my people. My people are all one week like this,” Here he waved his arms round violently. “Next week go back work. All quiet. Englishmans no understand that.

    The Tame Albanian, as you perceive, is a very superior person; he has travelled much and speaks several tongues with fluent inaccuracy. In the days of his youth he was a Bashi-Bazouk, and had a sportive time sharp-shooting in the Balkans during the Russo-Turkish war. Now he has settled down peacefully to a trade; but his eyes still gleam when he recalls the good old shot-and-powder times. “Reg’lar army all Mahommedan,” he says with lofty contempt, “I good Christian. I Bashi-Bazouk,” from which I learned for the first time that the Christianity and Bashi-Bazouks were connected, a fact which the latter’s reputation had not led me to suspect. He enjoyed himself for a little while over pleasingly gory reminiscences. You may catch an Albanian and tame him, and dress him in the garments of Western civilization, and teach him a trade or a handicraft, and he will excel in it, for your Albanian is no fool, but – he remains always an Albanian.

    He is tame in the sense that domestic cat is tame. No self-respecting cat ever forgets that is it used to be a wild beast, nor does the Albanian. This is, however, only my narrow Western view of the matter. The tame Albanian differs with me entirely. According to him, it is we who are uncivilized. “Now I tell you.” he says, “that London! I know him! Five million peoples! And what a lot of criminals! Oh, your people bad people! In my country all kind good mans. Perhaps you all alone, got no money, tired, hungry. You knock at door. ‘Ullo, what you want?’ ‘I hungry.’ ‘Come in.’ Then he give you bread, wine, tobacco. all what you want. Now, in London if you knock at door he says. “You run ‘way or I call p’leece!” His words called up before me a vivid picture of the sufferings of a luckless foreigner adrift in our big city I admitted that we did not understand Oriental hospitality, and rejoiced him greatly, for he felt he has proved his point.

    He expatiated on and waxed eloquent over the glories of his fatherland. “What finest country in the world” he said. “Now I tell you how fine. That Austria and them Italy, and that there Russia, and, and, all of ‘em they all wants my country” (he swelled with pride at the thought); “but they ain’t going to have it. That Prince of Montenegro, he’d like it; if he thinks he’ll get it, he’s making a mistake.” Then breaking off suddenly. “You know them Montenegrins?” he asked. “ Very well.” said I. “Now, how much they make you pay for stay one night at X..?”

    vazhdon...
    Rina, I believe you are the one that used the expression "Last of the Mohicans". I think of all the Catholic and Muslim tribes described by Edith Durham and wonder if many Albanian tribes disappeared as the American Indian tribe, the Mohicans. because of Enver Xoxha's campaign to destroy tribalism, blood feuds, religious beliefs and the importance of Albanian Besa.

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    Rina, unė besoj se ju jeni i vetmi qė pėrdoret shprehja "e fundit e Mohicans". Unė mendoj se tė gjithė fiset katolike dhe musliman tė pėrshkruara nga Edith Durham dhe pyes veten nėse shumė fise shqiptare u zhduk si fis indian Amerikan, Mohicans. pėr shkak tė fushatės sė Enver Xoxha pėr tė shkatėrruar tribalizmi, gjakmarrja, besimet fetare dhe rėndėsinė e shqiptare Besa.
    because of Enver Xoxha's purges of counter Marxist elements like tribalism, blood feuds, religious beliefs and the incomparable importance of Albanian Besa.
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    Rina, I believe you are the one that used the expression "Last of the Mohicans". I think of all the Catholic and Muslim tribes described by Edith Durham and wonder if many Albanian tribes disappeared as the American Indian tribe, the Mohicans. because of Enver Xoxha's campaign to destroy tribalism, blood feuds, religious beliefs and the importance of Albanian Besa.
    Ka ndryshim ne mes fiseve shqiptare dhe atyre indiane. Madje ky shkrimi i Edith Durham nuk po me duket shume real, por ishte politika europiane e kohes qe te tjeret qe ishin brenda perandorise otomane i shihte si te pacivilizuar dhe nuk i shihte si europiane, megjithese shqiptaret jane baza e civilizimit europian. Fiset shqiptare nuk mund te krahasohen me fiset indiane si per nga menyra e organizimit, struktures dhe besimit.

    S'ka fise qe jane zhduk gjate kohes se Enver Hoxhes, por nuk e kane me rolin qe kane pasur perpara, njerezit nuk e organizojne jeten me brenda fisit, sepse kemi dy shtete shqiptare tani. Eshte vjeteruar ajo menyre jetese!

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    Ka ndryshim ne mes fiseve shqiptare dhe atyre indiane. Madje ky shkrimi i Edith Durham nuk po me duket shume real, por ishte politika europiane e kohes qe te tjeret qe ishin brenda perandorise otomane i shihte si te pacivilizuar dhe nuk i shihte si europiane, megjithese shqiptaret jane baza e civilizimit europian. Fiset shqiptare nuk mund te krahasohen me fiset indiane si per nga menyra e organizimit, struktures dhe besimit.

    S'ka fise qe jane zhduk gjate kohes se Enver Hoxhes, por nuk e kane me rolin qe kane pasur perpara, njerezit nuk e organizojne jeten me brenda fisit, sepse kemi dy shtete shqiptare tani. Eshte vjeteruar ajo menyre jetese!
    Yes, there are differences between the Albanian and Indian tribes. When the Europeans first encountered the indigenous people of the United States they were living in the Stone Age while the Romans initially confronted the Albanian tribes living in the Iron Age culture. There was a vast gap between the lifestyles of the Horse Cultures of the Plains Indian tribes and the Eastern Woodland Indian tribes compared to the differences between Gheg and Tosk. Shockingly there is more genetic variation between the Nez Perce tribe of the Rocky Mountains and the Appalachian Mountains Cherokee tribe compared to the variation of the Scots and Armenians.

    Here's the common ground shared by Native Americans and Albanians. Both were not unified divided into tribes that were invaded by a powerful Empire represented by a large, organized, technologically advanced military that viewed the indigenous people as savage, backward, uneducated people living in a culture without merit.. Both were targeted by a ruthless empire to be conquered and assimilated after destroying their language, religion and culture.

    I don't see any difference between the plundering Comancheros,renegades that evolved from the destroyed Comanche Indian culture and the chaos in Albania after Xoxha giving rise to criminal gangs in Europe and the United States.

    PS
    I'm very glad the tribes I encountered in "High Albania" survived Xoxha's attempted extermination of their identities.

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    Po, ka dallime midis fiseve shqiptare dhe indiane. Kur evropianėt e parė qė hasen njerzit autoktonė tė Shteteve tė Bashkuara ata ishin duke jetuar nė Epoka e Gurit, ndėrsa romakėt e ballafaquar fillimisht tė fiseve shqiptare qė jetojnė nė kulturėn Epoka e Hekurit. Nuk ishte njė boshllėk tė madh nė mes tė jetesės e Kulturave kali e fiseve indiane dhe rrafshin Pyjor Lindore fiseve indiane nė krahasim me dallimet nė mes gege dhe toske. Shockingly ka variacion mė gjenetike nė mes tė fisit Perce néz e Maleve Shkėmbore dhe malet e fisit Appalachian Cherokee nė krahasim me variantin e Scots dhe armenėve.

    Ja njė bazė tė pėrbashkėt ndahet nga amerikanėt vendas dhe shqiptarė. Tė dy nuk ishin tė unifikuar tė ndarė nė fise qė u pushtuan nga njė perandori tė fuqishme tė pėrfaqėsuar nga njė pjesė tė madhe, tė organizuar, tė avancuar teknologjikisht ushtarake qė tė shikuarat popullit indigjen si tė egėr, tė prapambetur, njerėz tė pashkolluar qė jetojnė nė njė kulturė, pa merita .. Tė dy ishin nė shėnjestėr nga njė perandori e pamėshirshme pėr tė pushtuar dhe asimiluar pas shkatėrruar fenė, gjuhėn dhe kulturėn e tyre.

    Unė nuk shoh ndonjė ndryshim nė mes tė Comancheros plaēkitjen, renegatė qė evoluar nga kultura e shkatėrruar Comanche indiane dhe kaos nė Shqipėri pas Xoxha qė kanė shkaktuar bandave kriminale nė Evropė dhe Shtetet e Bashkuara.

    PS
    Unė jam shumė i lumtur tė fiseve nė "High Albania" mbijetoi pėrpjekjes pėr shfarosje tė identitetit tė tyre nga Enver Xoxha.
    Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga FreeByrd : 28-04-2011 mė 23:25
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    Tribal people of the last part of the 19th century separated by thousands of miles, race, language and culture yet so alike being independent, stubborn, fierce and warlike
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    Fisnor njerėzit e pjesės sė fundit tė shekullit tė 19 tė ndara me mijėra kilometra, racės, gjuhės dhe kulturės por nė mėnyrė tė njejtė tė pavarur, kokėfortė, i ashpėr dhe luftarak

    Hoti
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    Mirdite
    http://www.allempires.net/uploads/20...l_Albanian.jpg

    Apache


    Comanche
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    Mirdite
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    pasha zotin bre burre nga kesoj surratash

    dollen keta mo
    pfff, se cka je tuj mendu ti mi
    We never really grow up, we only learn how to act in public.

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    Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga fegi : 02-05-2011 mė 03:18

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    Apache

    Nuk jane keta indiane o cuni. Keta jane indianet qe i asimiluat ju e jau moret tokat. A po ju vjen marre qe i futet neper rezervate?

    Ky eshte indian.



    dhe vigvamet e tyre vendbanimet e tyre

    Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga Rina_87 : 02-05-2011 mė 04:42

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    Ndersa derisa Londra dergjej nga semundjet e kanalizimeve dhe jetonin ne mjerim dhe varferi shumcia e popullsise, shqiptaret jetonin ne keto ndertesa. Tani mos te flasim per popullsine rurale te Anglise dhe atyre qe ju desh te emigronin ne toka te panjohura, ne Amerike p.sh.

    Kur keltet, britonet dhe anglo-saksonet ende jetonin si te eger, shqiptaret e kishin ndertuar civilizimin dhe hanin me luge te arit. Ju civilizimin nga ketu e keni marr se ende ishit duke jetuar me perrallat e Beowulfit.
    Identitetin e britoneve qe edhe ate jau dhame ne, e kane degjeneruar anglo-saksonet. Me kot mundohet skotlanda te kerkoje pavaresi dhe uellsi ta ruaje identitetin ju kane marr anglo-saksonet. apo me mire angles + saxons + jutes. S'jeni ju origjinal po jeni perizerje me fise gjermanike vikingore, qe ju sakatosen.





    Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga Rina_87 : 02-05-2011 mė 05:09

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    Kur kan qen te shtrune me gure(Katror) udhete e Novoberdes(Artanes) e te Janjeves
    Udhete e Londrese e te Parisite kane qene me balte (LLoqe)?
    Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga fegi : 02-05-2011 mė 05:30

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