Anti-Islamizmi dhe Rracizmi

[Alket123]

Ne vendet laike dhe te krishtera po se pagove taksen te fusin ne burg dhe ke taksa kudo.Edhe kur blen ndonje send duhet paguar taksen ,thu se po fiton nese e blen nje buke apo qumesht.

flas per shba qe e di, po nuk pagove taksat futesh ne burg, po nuk pagove kredine e bankes nuk te fut njeri ne burg.

shteti mbahet,institucione,shkolla,ushtri,polici,rruge etj. me taksat dhe ligjet.

Alket 123

''Jizja'' (taksa)e jo muslimaneve eshte me e vogel se zekati(taksa) vjetore e muslimaneve qe duhet ta paguajn.

ahaaa genjeshter tjeter islame, kam historite e gjysherve te mi te shkruara.

do te besoj ty apo cfare kane shkruar gjysherit e mi? u pagofte me gjak djersa e gjysherve te mi.

Yusuf Ali states "The derived meaning, which became the technical meaning, was a poll-tax levied from those who did not accept Islam, but were willing to live under the protection of Islam

"extorsion money" ose "jizja" si thoni juve myslymanet, takse qe duhet te paguajne jo-myslymanet, ne mbrojtje te nje qeverie islame.

jizja mund te krahasohet me parate qe i paguan nje tregtar "per mbrojtje" nje grupi gangsteresh.

[Alket123]

flas per shba qe e di, po nuk pagove taksat futesh ne burg, po nuk pagove kredine e bankes nuk te fut njeri ne burg.

shteti mbahet,institucione,shkolla,ushtri,polici,rruge etj. me taksat dhe ligjet.

harrova te them,flas per shba qe e di, ke te drejten 1 ose 2 here ne jeten tende te deklarosh bankruptcy, te falen 80%-90% e shumes se kredise. nje gjykates te aprovon te drejten tende te bankruptcy.

quhet humbje ne bizness nga banka,kompania etj. e cila vete merr zbritje ne taksat e saj per kete humbje nga irs.
me ka lindur ideja qe duhet te behet nje tax jizja per ata qe nuk jane te fese se krishtere qe jetojne ne vendet e krishtera.

grrrrr. problemi eshte, se ne shumicen e rasteve, nuk te jep me njeri kredi nese je listed qe ti ke marre bankruptcy. kjo eshte e keqja e bankruptcy.

[islamicname]

we selamu alejkum se pari ju pershendes dhe dua tju tregoj se eshte e vertet ajo qe tha Qafir-Arnaut/i se islam dmth nenshtrim po nenshtrim ndaj Allahut dhe rregullave qe i ka shpallur ai permes te derguarve te tij te zgjedhur prandaj mos e keqkuptoni.Dhe nuk eshte e drejt te gjykohet per shkak te disave te papergjeshem te cilet po e fyejn Islamit duke u paraqitur si Musliman qe ne te vertet jane teroriste qe skan asnje lidhje e as dituri per Islamin.Prandaj ju keshilloj te lexoni pak me teper per Islam dhe do ta kuptoni se Islami eshte fe e paqes dhe lumturise dhe jo e terorizmit.Falemnderit per mirkuptim!

[alko71]

me ka lindur ideja qe duhet te behet nje tax jizja per ata qe nuk jane te fese se krishtere qe jetojne ne vendet e krishtera.

Dalin me shum se të krishterë pastaj.
Cili vend është duke udhëhequr me rregulla te krishterizmit?

Apo, i quan te krishterë per shkak te shumices se popullates se krishtere ne ato vende.

Kredia eshte tjeter gje.Eshte njesoj ,si kur merr hua nga nje i njohur dhe i ke borxh,edhe te banka ke borxh.Borxhi eshte obligim qe te kthehet,dhe nese nuk ke ,atehere varet prej huadhenesit.Nese do, ta fale apo ta shtyn afatin e kthimit.

[Qafir Arnaut]

we selamu alejkum se pari ju pershendes dhe dua tju tregoj se eshte e vertet ajo qe tha Qafir-Arnaut/i se islam dmth nenshtrim po nenshtrim ndaj Allahut !

E pergezoj kete mikun per transparencen e vet. Per me teper mbi fonetiken Arabe, e debating selam, sallam, islam...http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/518

Persa i perket ceshtjes te 'nenshtrimit'. Njeriu si natyre graviton drejt rebelimit ndaj nje hyjnie diktatoriale. Qe ne Epiken e Gilgameshit del qarte aspirata e njeriut per te qene i barabarte, e i pa-dominueshem (ne nje episod Gilgameshi inatoset me nje perendi e i flak turinjve te saj nje pale **** kau te blatuar per te).
Shqiptari, me shpirtin e tij te PADOMINUESHEM nuk ndihet natyrshem ne nje religjion qe i kerkon nenshtrim absolut, pa shume dengla.

[Smth_Poetic]

he mer cun can bere me bere research prape , se kisha kohe pa i lexuar keto gjera,por flm nga njera ane...

This is a partial list of some of the leading Muslims. Major Muslim contributions continued beyond the fifteenth century. Contributions of more than one hundred other major Muslim personalities can be found in several famous publications by Western historians. Biographies are available in the Islamic Civilization E-book.
Jabir Ibn Haiyan (Geber) Chemistry (Father of Chemistry) Died 803 C.E.
Al-Asmai Zoology, Botany, Animal Husbandry. 740 - 828
Al-Khwarizmi (Algorizm) Mathematics, Astronomy, Geography. (Algorithm, Algebra, calculus) 770 - 840
'Amr ibn Bahr Al-Jahiz Zoology, Arabic Grammar, Rhetoric, Lexicography 776 - 868
Ibn Ishaq Al-Kindi (Alkindus) Philosophy, Physics, Optics, Medicine, Mathematics, Metallurgy. 800 - 873
Thabit Ibn Qurrah (Thebit) Astronomy, Mechanics, Geometry, Anatomy. 836 - 901
'Abbas Ibn Firnas Mechanics of Flight, Planetarium, Artificial Crystals. Died 888
Ali Ibn Rabban Al-Tabari Medicine, Mathematics, Caligraphy, Literature. 838 - 870
Al-Battani (Albategnius) Astronomy, mathematics, Trigonometry. 858 - 929
Al-Farghani (Al-Fraganus) Astronomy, Civil Engineering. C. 860
Al-Razi (Rhazes) Medicine, Ophthalmology, Smallpox, Chemistry, Astronomy. 864 - 930
Al-Farabi (Al-Pharabius) Sociology, Logic, Philosophy, Political Science, Music. 870 - 950
Abul Hasan Ali Al-Masu'di Geography, History. Died 957
Al-Sufi (Azophi) Astronomy 903 - 986
Abu Al-Qasim Al-Zahravi (Albucasis) Surgery, Medicine. (Father of Modern Surgery) 936 - 1013
Muhammad Al-Buzjani Mathematics, Astronomy, Geometry, Trigonometry. 940 - 997
Ibn Al-Haitham (Alhazen) Physics, Optics, Mathematics. 965 - 1040
Al-Mawardi (Alboacen) Political Science, Sociology, Jurisprudence, Ethics. 972 - 1058
Abu Raihan Al-Biruni Astronomy, Mathematics. (Determined Earth's Circumference) 973-1048
Ibn Sina (Avicenna) Medicine, Philosophy, Mathematics, Astronomy. 981 - 1037
Al-Zarqali (Arzachel) Astronomy (Invented Astrolabe). 1028 - 1087
Omar Al-Khayyam Mathematics, Poetry. 1044 - 1123
Al-Ghazali (Algazel) Sociology, Theology, Philosophy. 1058 - 1111
Fall of Muslim Toledo (1085), Corsica and Malta (1090), Provence (1050), Sicily (1091) and Jerusalem (1099). Several Crusades. First wave of devastation of Muslim resources, lives, properties, institutions, and infrastructure over a period of one hundred years. Refer to Muslim History. Translators of Scientific Knowledge in the Middle Ages
Abu Bakr Muhammad Ibn Yahya (Ibn Bajjah) Philosophy, Medicine, Mathematics, Astronomy, Poetry, Music. 1106 - 1138
Ibn Zuhr (Avenzoar) Surgery, Medicine. 1091 - 1161
Al-Idrisi (Dreses) Geography (World Map, First Globe). 1099 - 1166
Ibn Tufayl, Abdubacer Philosophy, Medicine, Poetry. 1110 - 1185
Ibn Rushd (Averroes) Philosophy, Law, Medicine, Astronomy, Theology. 1128 - 1198
Al-Bitruji (Alpetragius) Astronomy Died 1204
Second wave of devastation of Muslim resources, lives, properties, institutions, and infrastructure over a period of one hundred and twelve years. Crusader invasions (1217-1291) and Mongol invasions (1219-1329). Crusaders active throughout the Mediterranean from Jerusalem and west to Muslim Spain. Fall of Muslim Cordoba (1236), Valencia (1238) and Seville (1248). Mongols devastation from the eastern most Muslim frontier, Central and Western Asia, India, Persia to Arab heartland. Fall of Baghdad (1258) and the end of Abbasid Caliphate. Two million Muslims massacred in Baghdad. Major scientific institutions, laboratories, and infrastructure destroyed in leading Muslim centers of civilization. Refer to "A Chronology of Muslim History Parts III, IV."
Ibn Al-Baitar Pharmacy, Botany Died 1248
Nasir Al-Din Al-Tusi Astronomy, Non-Euclidean Geometry. 1201 - 1274
Jalal Al-Din Rumi Sociology 1207 - 1273
Ibn Al-Nafis Damishqui Anatomy 1213 - 1288
Al-Fida (Abdulfeda) Astronomy, Geography, Histrory. 1273 - 1331
Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (Ibn Battuta) World Traveler. 75,000 mile voyage from Morocco to China and back. 1304 - 1369
Ibn Khaldun Sociology, Philosophy of History, Political Science. 1332 - 1395
Ulugh Beg Astronomy 1393 - 1449
Third wave of devastation of Muslim resources, lives, properties, institutions, and infrastructure. End of Muslim rule in Spain (1492). More than one million volumes of Muslim works on science, arts, philosophy and culture was burnt in the public square of Vivarrambla in Granada. Colonization began in Africa, Asia, and the Americas. Refer to "A Chronology of Muslim History Parts IV, V (e.g., 1455, 1494, 1500, 1510, 1524, and 1538)"

Two hundred years before a comparable development elsewhere, Turkish scientist Hazarfen Ahmet Celebi took off from Galata tower and flew over the Bosphorus. Logari Hasan Celebi, another member of the Celebi family, sent the first manned rocket, using 150 okka (about 300 pounds) of gunpowder as the firing fuel.

Tipu, Sultan of Mysore [1783-1799] in the south of India, was the innovator of the world's first war rocket. Two of his rockets, captured by the British at Srirangapatana, are displayed in the Woolwich Museum Artillery in London. The rocket motor casing was made of steel with multiple nozzles. The rocket, 50mm in diameter and 250mm long, had a range performance of 900 meters to 1.5 km.


o ti djale qe nxitohesh para kohe....hapi syte e shifi kontributin e myslimanve ne mesjete ....sa per dijeni xhordano bruno qe ateist sipas teje ,apo galileo ,apo njutoni huh?

ja paske haberin e historise ti vlla...njutoni lexoi biblen per 10 vjet rrjesht ,dhe refuzoi te shkrunte as edhe nje gje rreth fizikes,kurse xhordano bruno kur e dogjen mesa kam lexuar une vdiq duke lexuar nja ca fjale te dhiates se re neper goje ....sa per galileon nuk mbaj mend me then te drejten ,por jam i sigurte qe nuk ka qen ateist...

dakort toro besoj se bashke mbaruam tek ky debat ,pa anje fakt nga ana jote

[Smth_Poetic]

ja cfare mendimi kan the western perreth 'jizyas'

According to orientalist S.D. Goitein in Evidence on the Muslim Poll Tax from Non-Muslim Sources:

It seemed, however, that from the economic point of view, it did not constitute a heavy imposition, since it was on a sliding scale, approximately one, two, and four dinars, and thus adjusted to the financial capacity of the taxpayer.

For example, Sir Thomas Arnold, an orientalist of the early 20th century

This tax was not imposed on the Christians, as some would have us think, as a penalty for their refusal to accept the Muslim faith. Rather, it was paid by them in common with the other dhimmis or non-Muslim subjects of the state whose religion precluded them from serving in the army, in return for the protection secured for them by the arms of the Muslims. When the people of Hirah contributed the sum agreed upon, they expressly mentioned that they paid this jizyah on condition that ‘the Muslims and their leader protect us from those who would oppress us, whether they be Muslims or others.[24]

kjo si tax sa per dijeni ti alket ka qen vetem per meshkujt [adult] ,dhe si perfshinte shtresat si ...grate ,fmijet,invalidet te moshuarit dhe ata qe bini dakort te luftonin krahe per krahe myslimaneve nqs vendi i tyre sulmohej...

tani me llogjike ...un ty te ofroj siguri te plote si nga jomyslimanet dhe nga myslimanet e padrejte nqs ti e paguan kete tax qe qysh e permendem nga profesori orientalist pak me larte qe esht tax e rendomte nga ana e ekonomise...

po ta krahasojme me taxat e sotshme ,esht e qarte qe taxat e sotshme jan shume here me te larta ne vendet e perendimit , dhe ketu pershijne dhe femrat jo vetem meshkujt..

vete myslimanet po ti biesh cik lapsit pagonin me shume...

pse?---edhe pse zekati [me permasa shume te vogla] qe me i ulet se jizya per myslimanet,prape nga myslimanet kerkohej ikja ne ushtri ,plus sadakaja [edhe pse jo e detyrueshme] qe jepej pa mase nga ana e myslimaneve ne ate kohe

tani bejini cik llogarite edhe a esht e drejte kjo tax apo jo

[Smth_Poetic]

muabeti esht se ne ketu dolem shume nga tema ,dhe duket e qarte qe ky qafiri e beri kete gje te defrehej pak ,kur ca rob ketu shpifin gjera dhe as qe kan te voglen dije rreth islamit, por ecin akoma me shembuj se cfare ben ai apo ajo [myslimane]

feja nuk gjykohet nga robte ,por nga thelbi i saj ....nqs nje pyll ka derra ca do bejme ne do e djegim thoni ju?

un habitem nga ju rrjedhe kjo urrejtje per nje fe qe ska kercenuar asnjeher ideologjine e nje vendi ose nje grupi.....feja islame perpiqet te arrije perfeksionimin e moralit te nje njeriu.....

ju flisni per racizem ....por po ta shofesh nga historia qe kan qen fete e tjera qe ushtronin racizem kundra myslimaneve.....

a nuk ishin kristianet qe me kryqezatat e tyre vun nje njolle te keqe ne histori per barbarizmin e tyre......

kurse per ju qe jeni ateiste .....a nuk thote darvini qe rraca me e evoluar do mbijetoje dhe e thekson qarte qe rraca e zeze esht me pak e evoluar ,dhe me kalimin e kohes kjo do zhduket.....sepse me i forti mbijeton sipas darvinit....
a ka me rracizem te shprehur qarte ketu....

ose cifutet qe ne librin e tyre talmut e thone haptazi qe cdo rrace pervec cifuteve ,quhen 'gentil' qe kane te njejtat te drejta me kafshet ,dhe se cifutet nga ana tjeter jan rraca me superiore e zgjedhur nga zoti..
dhe po e shofim qarte me sa brutalitet po sillen ata kundra palestinezeve ,kur ishin osmanet ata qe i strehuan kur spanja po i kryqezonte me koke poshte ose i kthente krishtere me dhune....

apo hindute qe djegin xhamira edhe sot e ksaj dite...mos te flasim per

kinezet [budista]qe ka mijera xhami atje[ne kine]qe kan vite qe jan mbyll ,edhe nje pjese e madhe e myslimaneve te jugut jan keqperdorur atje...

kurse myslimani ne te njejten kohe esht treguar tolerant gjithmon,,,,,,nuk ishte salaudini qe kur e rimori prape jeruzalemin ,nuk vrau asnje rob perkundrazi i liroi te gjithe ata,ne te kunderten bene kristianet 100 vjet me pare ,kur vrane 1 milion veta ,gra ,fmije,pleq ,kafshe edhe pemet i prene sepse gjoja bazoheshin tek dhjata e vjeter dhiates se vjeter....

heren tjeter mundesisht hapni nje teme qe te jete e debatueshme ne menyre 'sane' qysh i thote anglezi ,e jo te hapet me qellime te kqija kundra islamit ....flm shume

[islamicname]

Shqiptari, me shpirtin e tij te PADOMINUESHEM nuk ndihet natyrshem ne nje religjion qe i kerkon nenshtrim absolut, pa shume dengla.


shqiptari eshte qenie njerzore si gjith njerezit e tjere se sduhet te kete dallime ndermjet tij dhe nje arabi sepse te dy jan qenie njerzore...dhe secili prej tyre duhet te dij se nenshtrimi ndaj Allahut nuk eshte vetem humbje kohe dhe lohdje,por se per kete ka dhe shperblim...nje jete e beatshme me gjera qi si ka pare syri...si ka degjuar veshi..si ka shijuar gjuha dhe si ka nuhatur hunda...prandaj nese ai i nenstrohet Allahut me kenaqsi padyshim se do te kete shperblim per te dhe prandaj secili prej nesh duhet te punoj dhe ti nenshtrohet Atij....ti vella i dashur nese ke lexuar per shperblimet qe na presin neve msulimaneve jam i sigurt se nuk do te flisje keshtu....me fal nese gabohem...selamu alejkum

[xfiles]

nje fe qe kerkon nenshtrim absolut ?
aferim te qofte, ky pra eshte islami.
Po ky Allahu juaj pse e ka kaq perzemer te nenshtroj njerezit?
shume egoist ky allahu,
kijani friken se do u djek e do u pjek ne ferr, se ashtu i do qejfi.