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    Pannonia

    Position of the Roman province of PannoniaPannonia is an ancient country bounded north and east by the Danube, conterminous westward with Noricum and upper Italy, and southward with Dalmatia and upper Moesia. Pannonia was located in the territory of present-day countries: Austria, Croatia, Hungary, Serbia and Montenegro, Slovenia and Bosnia and Herzegovina.

    Today, the term Pannonia is usually used for what is called Transdanubia (Dunįntśl) in Hungary and for the northern parts of former Yugoslavia which are located in the Pannonian plain.


    History
    Its original inhabitants were the Pannonii (Pannonians), an Illyrian tribe. From the 4th century BC it was invaded by various Celtic tribes. Little is heard of Pannonia until 35 BC, when its inhabitants, allies of the Dalmatians, were attacked by Augustus, who conquered and occupied Siscia (Sisak). The country was not, however, definitely subdued until 9 BC, when it was incorporated with Illyria, the frontier of which was thus extended as far as the Danube.

    In A.D. 7 the Pannonians, with the Dalmatians and other Illyrian tribes, revolted, and were overcome by Tiberius and Germanicus, after a hard-fought campaign which lasted for two years. The proximity of dangerous barbarian tribes (Quadi, Marcomanni) necessitated the presence of a large number of troops (seven legions in later times), and numerous fortresses were built on the bank of the Danube.


    Map of the Roman provinces Pannonia, Dalmatia, Moesia, and DaciaSome time between the years 102 and 107, between the first and second Dacian wars, Trajan divided the province into Pannonia superior (the western), and inferior (the eastern) portion. According to Ptolemy, these divisions were separated by a line drawn from Arrabona (Győr) in the north to Servitium (Gradiška) in the south; later, the boundary was placed farther east. The whole country was sometimes called the Pannonias (Pannoniae).

    Pannonia superior was under the consular legate, who had formerly administered the single province, and had three legions under his control: Pannonia inferior at first under a praetorian legate with a single legion as garrison, after Marcus Aurelius under a consular legate, still with only one legion. The frontier on the Danube was protected by the establishment of the two colonies Aelia Mursia (Esse) and Aelia Aquincum (Alt-Ofen) by Hadrian.

    Under Diocletian a fourfold division of the country was made:

    Pannonia Prima in the northwest, with capital in Savaria/Sabaria (Szombathely),
    Pannonia Valeria in the northeast, with capital in Sopiane (Pécs),
    Pannonia Savia in the southwest, with capital in Siscia (Sisak),
    Pannonia Secunda in the southeast, with capital in Sirmium (Sremska Mitrovica)
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    i vetlarguar Maska e Arcimedes
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    Un e kam lexuar diku dhe e kam pare edhe ne nje harte qe iliret kan qene populli me i madh ne Ballkan.

    Faleminderit alibaba per informacionin.
    I vetlarguar per arsyje fshirje shkrimesh nga moderatore arrogante si puna e Dariusit me shoke....

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    Perjashtuar Maska e bashki
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    shtrirja e fiseve ilire { ketu nuk prfshihen tokat ne fjale}
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    i vetlarguar Maska e Arcimedes
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    Citim Postuar mė parė nga bashki
    shtrirja e fiseve ilire { ketu nuk prfshihen tokat ne fjale}
    faleminderit Bashki per harten.
    I vetlarguar per arsyje fshirje shkrimesh nga moderatore arrogante si puna e Dariusit me shoke....

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    Erara humanum est Maska e kęrlighed
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    Ketu keni edhe nje harte tjeter te illyricum-it.

    Pershendetje.
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    Mea mihi concientia pluris est quam Omnium sermo.
    Cicero

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    Perjashtuar Maska e bashki
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    Me pika te zeza tregohen vendet ku sot jetojne pjestare te races Ilirike {pasardhes te ilireve te lashte tashme te asimiluar ne gjuhe}
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    Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga bashki : 31-12-2005 mė 21:24

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    Pse ngateroni Ilirine me provincen romake Illyricum???

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    me 40 hajdutė Maska e alibaba
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    Tannhauser romaket i kane emertuar provincat ne baze te perkatesise etnike te banoreve p.sh. nga galet Gali, nga retet Retia, nga iliret Ilyricum etj.
    Per panonet te sjell edhe fakte tjera,megjithese dihet se kane qene ne nje kohe nen invadimin e kelteve por qysh ne fillim ishin pellazge.

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    Tannhauser romaket i kane emertuar provincat ne baze te perkatesise etnike te banoreve p.sh. nga galet Gali, nga retet Retia, nga iliret Ilyricum etj.
    Eshte gabim te thuhet kjo ose te pakten keqkuptim i fakteve historike. Romaket i ndanin provincat sipas vullnetit me kritere ushtarake dhe jo etnike, p.sh ne baze te renditjeve te legjionave etj etj.

    Per panonet te sjell edhe fakte tjera,megjithese dihet se kane qene ne nje kohe nen invadimin e kelteve por qysh ne fillim ishin pellazge.

    Panonet ishin ilire dhe nga fiset qe u sherbyen me shume romakeve. As kishin te bejne me pellazget. Pellazget para ilireve nuk kishin arritur vecse deri ne Shqiperine e jugut.

    Te te bej dy pyetje:

    Cili shkencetar eshte 'babai' i albanologjise?
    Cili ishte ai qe tha i pari se origjina e shqiptareve vjen nga pellazget?

    Nuk eshte turp te mos dish, pyet...

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    me 40 hajdutė Maska e alibaba
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    Nje harte qe tregon lidhjen etnike mes Etrureve, Lemnosit, Panoneve dhe Reteve [paraardhes te retoromaneve].Ne gjuhen retoromane ninullat quhen ninis nanis.Kjo tregon qarte nje prejardhje pellazgjike te retoromaneve te cilet sot jetojne ne Zvicer.Gjithashtu per panonet eshte shume e perkrahur kjo hipoteze e lidhjes etnike te tyre me etruret dhe pellazget tjere.
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    Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga alibaba : 10-01-2006 mė 06:28

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