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  1. #1
    i/e regjistruar Maska e King_Gentius
    Anëtarësuar
    24-11-2004
    Vendndodhja
    Boston
    Postime
    485

    Alexander Dumas shkruan për Ali Pashën

    Ky shkrim mu duk shume interesant se pershkruan karakterin dhe bemat jo vetem te Ali Pashes po edhe shqiptareve te asaj kohe ne pergjithesi. Nuk e di se sa prej ketij libri eshte histori e sa thjesht literature.

    http://www.freebookstoread.com/alpac10_1.htm

  2. #2
    i/e regjistruar Maska e King_Gentius
    Anëtarësuar
    24-11-2004
    Vendndodhja
    Boston
    Postime
    485

    Pershkrimi i shqiptareve

    Nje excerpt nga libri:

    Albania was one of the most difficult provinces to manage. Its
    inhabitants were poor, brave, and, the nature of the country was
    mountainous and inaccessible. The pashas had great difficulty in
    collecting tribute, because the people were given to fighting for
    their bread. Whether Mahomedans or Christians, the Albanians were
    above all soldiers. Descended on the one side from the unconquerable
    Scythians, on the other from the ancient Macedonians, not long since masters of the world; crossed with Norman adventurers brought
    eastwards by the great movement of the Crusades; they felt the blood
    of warriors flow in their veins, and that war was their element.
    Sometimes at feud with one another, canton against canton, village
    against village, often even house against house; sometimes rebelling
    against the government their sanjaks; sometimes in league with these
    against the sultan; they never rested from combat except in an armed
    peace. Each tribe had its military organisation, each family its
    fortified stronghold, each man his gun on his shoulder. When they
    had nothing better to do, they tilled their fields, or mowed their
    neighbours', carrying off, it should be noted, the crop; or pastured
    their, flocks, watching the opportunity to trespass over pasture
    limits. This was the normal and regular life of the population of
    Epirus, Thesprotia, Thessaly, and Upper Albania. Lower Albania, less
    strong, was also less active and bold; and there, as in many other
    parts of Turkey, the dalesman was often the prey of the mountaineer.
    It was in the mountain districts where were preserved the
    recollections of Scander Beg, and where the manners of ancient
    Laconia prevailed; the deeds of the brave soldier were sung on the
    lyre, and the skilful robber quoted as an example to the children by the father of the family. Village feasts were held on the booty
    taken from strangers; and the favourite dish was always a stolen
    sheep. Every man was esteemed in proportion to his skill and
    courage, and a man's chances of making a good match were greatly
    enhanced when he acquired the reputation of being an agile
    mountaineer and a good bandit.

    The Albanians proudly called this anarchy liberty, and religiously
    guarded a state of disorder bequeathed by their ancestors, which
    always assured the first place to the most valiant.

    It was amidst men and manners such as these that Ali Tepeleni was
    born. He boasted that he belonged to the conquering race, and that
    he descended from an ancient Anatolian family which had crossed into
    Albania with the troops of Bajazet Ilderim. But it is made certain
    by the learned researches of M. de Pouqueville that he sprang from a
    native stock, and not an Asiatic one, as he pretended. His ancestors
    were Christian Skipetars, who became Mussulmans after the Turkish
    invasion, and his ancestry certainly cannot be traced farther back
    than the end of the sixteenth century.

  3. #3
    i/e regjistruar
    Anëtarësuar
    20-11-2004
    Vendndodhja
    Gjermani - Leipzig
    Postime
    148
    Jo more !!! , na nxorri Skythe Dumas-i. Ndonje teori tjeter ke ne xhep more Gent sepse ngele duke "testuar" limititet e shqiptareve. Skythe-t unconquerable ? Pse jo Themistokliu, Pirro, Skenderbeu, Aleksandri por tamam skythet ?
    Megjithate me duhet ta mbeshtes fuqimisht tezen se Skythet jemi ne, pasi Shqiptar fillon me S ne fund te fundit, ndersa Serbet jane Ilir. Ne kete kontekst ju mbreti i kujt jeni ?
    "Ju lutem mos ushqeni asnje iluzion. Mua më vrane dhe keshtu kane vepruar edhe me dy kryetaret tjere te Shoqates së Shqiptareve "Marko Boçari", te cilet vdiqen, edhe keta, nga "leuçemia". Keto fjale ua kam thene edhe miqve te tjere te mij"...
    Fjalet e fundit te Aristidh Kola-s

  4. #4
    i/e regjistruar Maska e King_Gentius
    Anëtarësuar
    24-11-2004
    Vendndodhja
    Boston
    Postime
    485
    O karafil, Aleksander Dumas me sa di une ishte shkrimtar literature dhe jo historian. Tani njerezit bejne dhe gafa ngadonjeher. Cme ndjek mua nga prapa per gabimin e tij? Sa i ve re gjerat e burr i dheut. Ajo qe me interesonte te tregoja ishte se me cfare admirimi flet ky njeri per racen tone.

  5. #5
    i/e regjistruar
    Anëtarësuar
    05-02-2005
    Postime
    127
    Hej, ke libri i tij me i famshem "Konti i Monte Kristos" ai permend Ali Pashen dhe vajzen e tij qe e bleu Edmond Dantes tek pazari i Stambollit kur ishte kthyer ne skllave dhe e solli me vete ne France. Por nuk e thret Shqiptare (albanaise) por Greke. Perse e quan Greke kur ai e dinte qe Ali Pash de Janina, babai i saj, ishte Shqiptar?

  6. #6
    i/e regjistruar Maska e King_Gentius
    Anëtarësuar
    24-11-2004
    Vendndodhja
    Boston
    Postime
    485
    Derisa shqiptaret filluan kryengritje kombetare kunder turqve (1878) shume evropiane ishin aq injorante sa kujtonin se ne ballkan banonin vetem greke, lol.

  7. #7
    Restaurator Orbis Maska e Baptist
    Anëtarësuar
    20-11-2004
    Postime
    8,690
    Citim Postuar më parë nga King_Gentius
    Shqiptaret qene mbi te gjitha ushtare. Duke rrjedhur nga njera ane prej Skytheve te papushtueshem, e nga ana tjeter prej Maqedonasve te lashte te cilet qene zoter te botes jo shume kohe me pare; te kryqezuar me aventurieret Normane qe meshuan nga lindja nepermjet levizjes se madhe te Krusadave, ata (shqiptaret) ndjenin gjakun e luftetareve ne vena, dhe lufta qe elementi i tyre.
    Ore djalke borziloku. Nga qe edhe une nuk ve re, s’po harrij dote te kupetoj se pe cila nga keto racat e larta qe thote Dumas eshte raca jote e admirueshme. Qe albaneset sipas Dumbass nuk jane race por hybrid eshte aq e bardhe sac jane te zeza germat. Po ama na mesove qe skythte dhe maqedonasit i paskan francezte miq nga nena. Albaneset e gjore ka rastisur ti kene baballare.
    Ndryshuar për herë të fundit nga Baptist : 15-03-2005 më 16:52

  8. #8
    i/e regjistruar Maska e King_Gentius
    Anëtarësuar
    24-11-2004
    Vendndodhja
    Boston
    Postime
    485
    Sa *^&%$ qe jeni mashalla.

    Ju thashe njehere lexojeni si pune letrare dhe jo historike. Sic eshte e dukshme ai nuk e ka bere me qellim te keq. Ka dashur te tregoje qe kemi prejardhje popujsh luftetaresh te pamposhtur. Njerezit bejne dhe gafa. Po qe te qetesoheni po e ndryshoj tekstin origjinal se mu bete si mahmuti pas kepuces.
    Ndryshuar për herë të fundit nga King_Gentius : 15-03-2005 më 17:32

  9. #9
    i/e regjistruar Maska e King_Gentius
    Anëtarësuar
    24-11-2004
    Vendndodhja
    Boston
    Postime
    485
    Albania was one of the most difficult provinces to manage. Its
    inhabitants were poor, brave, and, the nature of the country was
    mountainous and inaccessible. The pashas had great difficulty in
    collecting tribute, because the people were given to fighting for
    their bread. Whether Mahomedans or Christians, the Albanians were
    above all soldiers. Descended on the one side from the unconquerable
    Illyrians*, on the other from the ancient Illyrians**, not long since masters of the world; crossed with Illyrian*** adventurers brought
    eastwards by the great movement of the Crusades; they felt the blood
    of warriors flow in their veins, and that war was their element.
    Sometimes at feud with one another, canton against canton, village
    against village, often even house against house; sometimes rebelling
    against the government their sanjaks; sometimes in league with these
    against the sultan; they never rested from combat except in an armed
    peace. Each tribe had its military organisation, each family its
    fortified stronghold, each man his gun on his shoulder. When they
    had nothing better to do, they tilled their fields, or mowed their
    neighbours', carrying off, it should be noted, the crop; or pastured
    their, flocks, watching the opportunity to trespass over pasture
    limits. This was the normal and regular life of the population of
    Epirus, Thesprotia, Thessaly, and Upper Albania. Lower Albania, less
    strong, was also less active and bold; and there, as in many other
    parts of Turkey, the dalesman was often the prey of the mountaineer.
    It was in the mountain districts where were preserved the
    recollections of Scander Beg, and where the manners of ancient
    Laconia prevailed; the deeds of the brave soldier were sung on the
    lyre, and the skilful robber quoted as an example to the children by the father of the family. Village feasts were held on the booty
    taken from strangers; and the favourite dish was always a stolen
    sheep. Every man was esteemed in proportion to his skill and
    courage, and a man's chances of making a good match were greatly
    enhanced when he acquired the reputation of being an agile
    mountaineer and a good bandit.

    The Albanians proudly called this anarchy liberty, and religiously
    guarded a state of disorder bequeathed by their ancestors, which
    always assured the first place to the most valiant.

    It was amidst men and manners such as these that Ali Tepeleni was
    born. He boasted that he belonged to the conquering race, and that
    he descended from an ancient Anatolian family which had crossed into
    Albania with the troops of Bajazet Ilderim. But it is made certain
    by the learned researches of M. de Pouqueville that he sprang from a
    native stock, and not an Asiatic one, as he pretended. His ancestors
    were Christian Skipetars, who became Mussulmans after the Turkish
    invasion, and his ancestry certainly cannot be traced farther back
    than the end of the sixteenth century.


    *
    **
    *** Ndryshuar se ka shum gjaknxehte mendjegushte ne kete forum.

  10. #10
    Restaurator Orbis Maska e Baptist
    Anëtarësuar
    20-11-2004
    Postime
    8,690
    Pa, pa, pa sa mendje zgjeruar qenkerke zoterote! Literaturen e historine i qeverrise me nje te rene te lapsit sa edhe Dumas fils s’do ja mbante. Po marreveshjen e Kaçit e me Serbine e ndryshon dot mo? Fut edhe Maqonine dhe Francen ne thes se nje origjine jemi.

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