Amerikes i lejohet se eshte vend demokrat:'(
Amerikes i lejohet se eshte vend demokrat:'(
Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga INDRITI : 19-11-2005 mė 15:23
Injoranca nuk zhduket me top
Indrit cfare dreqi vlere ka ky lajm per armet kimike? Asnje vlere fare. Po ben propagande antiamerikane apo pro-Bin Ladenit ketu ti?Postuar mė parė nga INDRITI
Indrit amerika po i perdor armet kimike ne syte e ushtareve shiite te cilet po ngazellehen nga gazimi sunite po digjen nga fosfori. Ne sulmin ne Falluja morren pjese ushtare kurde dhe shiite e harrove?
Mos e zhvendos vemendjen ne perdorimin e armeve kimike sepse jane ne fund te listes se problemeve ne Irak.
Dje dy suni hyne per te falur ne xhamite e shiiteve me jeleke te mbushur me dinamit, te cilet shperthyen veten me pas.
Sot nje suni tjeter me makine shpertheu makinen me eksploziv ne nje furneral shiit. Ketu fokusoje diskutimin.
Pse u vran 10 talibanet me arm kimike eshte dicka e keqe? Po edhe me bom atomike ti hedesh Bin Laden dhe CO do me behej qefi!
Kur Sadami vrau me mijera njerez si Kurdet dhe Iranianet ajo nuk quet gje e keqe? Oh harrova qe Amerika eshte gjithnje fajtori se perdori arm kimike per 10 taliban, kurse Sadami duhet te jet i pafajshem PLZ...
Gjeni dicka tjeter qe te urreni Ameriken....se keto me arm kimike nuk shkon!
nuk besoj se i vjen keq njeriu per talibanet dhe iranianet pervec fetareve te forumit.
Posi jo, hetimet nderkombetare te OKB jane mese te mirepritura.....Ja se shpejti do te perfundojne hetimet e skandalit "Oil for Food", hetimet e perdhunimeve dhe te seksit me femije te helmetave blu ne Kongo, hetimet per shtetet qe mbeshtetin terrorizmin, hetimet per prerjet e kokave te gazetareve dhe civileve nga "insurgents" ne Irak, hetimet per ekzekutimit masive te kadeteve per police nga "insurgents", hetimet per vendosjen e njerezve bomba neper xhami ne Bagdad e gjetke, hetimet per shkeljen e te drejtave te njeriut ne Korene e Veriut, Kine, Iran , Libi etj.....
Eh meqe do te shkojne deri ne Guantanamo te Kubes te hetojne a iu respektohet menyja e gjelles ( dmth a e kane te plote listen e gjelleve pa mish derri te burgosurit atje apo jo) do te hidhen dhe nje xhiro deri ne Havana te shohin dhe listen e gjelleve te te burgosurve te Kastros....Sepse OKB-ja nuk mund te kete kurre standarte te dyfishta!!!! Ah harrova, Kastroja i trajton me se mirii te burgosurit e vete politike.....
Nje sugjerim kisha une.....Sikur ato gjellet qe iu jepen talibaneve tiu jepeshin te burgosurve politike te Kastros, dhe ato qe hane kubanezet e burgosur tu jepen talibaneve, atehere problemi do te zgjidhej se OKB nuk do te duhet te levizte prapanicen deri ne Kube!
"Who is John Galt?"
Ajo video nuk tregon asgje....Analizat kimike nuk behen me kamera , por ne laborator.....Videoja tregon nje fishekzjarr, asgje me teper....Ne nje stadium te Athines se shkosh, ke me teper tym te tille se aty.....Ketu ne SHBA, dil per 4 korrik dhe shiko se si perdoret "Willy Pete" nga civilet amerikane......Megjithese te gjithe jemi koshiente qe Amerika e nisi luften per eleminimin dhe rrezikun qe kishte Sadam Huseni per perdoriumin e armeve kimike kunder popullsise civile.Tashme vete amerika po i perdor keto arme.
Video deshmi
http://www.rainews24.rai.it/ran24/cl...io_fosforo.asx
White Phosphorus : the friend "Willy Pete"....
http://www.osservatorioiraq.it/modul...articleid=1681
White phosphorus is a chemical agent which is used in arson explosives as Napalm. It has been used by the United States in Vietnam and by Saddam Hussein in the 80's during the war against Curds. Its use is admitted only for tracers, smoke candles or bomb primers because of its combustion properties. However, if it is used because of its toxicity to strike directly human beings or animals, then is considered a chemical weapon.
It is an element that burns when it comes into contact with oxigen and it consumes the molecules which contain it. This is why it is able to melt the body parts it comes into contact with, the most exposed are mucosas.
White phosphorus has been forbidden since 1906 in matches composition and it has been replaced by red phosphorus, because it is considered highly toxic and poisonous if swallowed or inhalated. it is also used in rat poisons to cause internal hemorrhages.
As for all the other arsonist explosives its use is limited to the military field. Its use is forbidden by the Geneva Convention in those zones where civilians are present. In the military slang it is called Willy Pete, the initials of "White Phosphorus".
http://www.rainews24.rai.it/ran24/in...phosphorus.asp
Apo doni te mbuloni masakrat e Al Zarkauit ju islamiket?
"Who is John Galt?"
Ky eshte komenti yt cinik? Kur myslymane vriten nga vete myslimane, brenda ne Xhami ,duke hedhur ne ere 50- 80 vete menjehere dhe Kurani detyrimisht perdhoset ( kur i varen tjetrit zorret ne tavan, detyrimisht cfare ka zorra e trashe brenda bien ne faqet e Kuranit)..........Perse nuk e komenton pak kete gje? Apo vetem myslimaneve iu lejohet ta perdhosin Kuranin?
Jo per gje , por kur doli historia fallco ( e krijuar nga gazetare) per perdhosjen e Kuranit ne Guantamo u hodhe perpjete zotrote....Tani qe kemi histori me fakte hesht.....Perse valle?
"Who is John Galt?"
Mos u hiq shume naiv dhe te na lesh te kuptojme se cfare do te thote te jesh hebre.
Video flet qarte dhe viktimat e djegura nga fosfori i bardhe bejne mu pavarsisht se ti "Toro" akoma gjendesh ne "amfiteatrin Spanjoll".
The Pentagon's admission - despite earlier denials - that US troops used white phosphorus as a weapon in Falluja last year is more than a public relations issue - it has opened up a debate about the use of this weapon in modern warfare.
The admission contradicted a statement this week from the new and clearly under-briefed US ambassador in London Robert Holmes Tuttle that US forces "do not use napalm or white phosphorus as weapons".
The official line to that point had been that WP, or Willie Pete to use its old name from Vietnam, was used only to illuminate the battlefield and to provide smoke for camouflage.
'Shake 'n Bake'
This line however crumbled when bloggers (whose influence must not be under-estimated these days) ferreted out an article published by the US Army's Field Artillery Magazine in its issue of March/April this year.
The article, written by a captain, a first lieutenant and a sergeant, was a review of the attack on Falluja in November 2004 and in particular of the use of indirect fire, mainly mortars.
It makes quite clear that WP was used as a weapon not just as illumination or camouflage.
It's [WP] not forbidden if it is used within the context of a military application which does not require or does not intend to use the toxic properties
Peter Kaiser
"WP proved to be an effective and versatile munition. We used it for screening missions at two breeches and, later in the fight, as a potent psychological weapon against the insurgents in trench lines and spider holes where we could not get effects on them with HE [High Explosive]. We fired "shake and bake" missions at the insurgents, using WP to flush them out and HE to take them out," the article said.
In another passage the authors noted that they could have used other smoke munitions and "saved our WP for lethal missions".
A word about the term "shake and bake." Anyone with a family to feed in the US knows what this term, properly "Shake 'n Bake, means. Made by Kraft, it is a seasoning which is shaken onto chicken before baking. Its use gives the article the smack of reality. It's the kind of thing US soldiers would say.
Vietnam precedent
This tactic of forcing opponents out of cover is not new and should not really have come as a surprise. An article looking back at the Vietnam war published in 1996 by a US armoured unit (1st Battalion, 69th Armor) referred to "Willie Pete" weapons and their use in getting North Vietnamese troops to leave their positions:
"Our normal procedure was to fire these things at a hillside as soon as possible in order to get them out of the fighting compartment."
One wonders of course if, in Falluja, WP was used more directly to kill insurgents and not just to flush them out. In battle, soldiers take short cuts and this seems an obvious one.
Embed report
Evidence that this happened in Falluja comes from an article by a reporter, Darrin Mortenson of the North County Times in California, who was embedded with US marines there.
He wrote about a mortar unit receiving coordinates of a target and opening fire:
"The boom kicked the dust around the pit as they ran through the drill again and again, sending a mixture of burning white phosphorus and high explosives they call 'shake 'n bake' into a cluster of buildings where insurgents have been spotted all week."
The tactic therefore seems to have been not to flush them out first but to bombard them simultaneously with the two types of weapons.
Chemical Weapons Convention
The debate about WP centres partly though not wholly on whether it is really a chemical weapon. Such weapons are outlawed by the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC) to which the United States is a party.
The CWC is monitored by the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, based in The Hague. Its spokesman Peter Kaiser was asked if WP was banned by the CWC and he had this to say:
White phosphorous being used over Falluja
"No it's not forbidden by the CWC if it is used within the context of a military application which does not require or does not intend to use the toxic properties of white phosphorus. White phosphorus is normally used to produce smoke, to camouflage movement.
"If that is the purpose for which the white phosphorus is used, then that is considered under the Convention legitimate use.
"If on the other hand the toxic properties of white phosphorus, the caustic properties, are specifically intended to be used as a weapon, that of course is prohibited, because the way the Convention is structured or the way it is in fact applied, any chemicals used against humans or animals that cause harm or death through the toxic properties of the chemical are considered chemical weapons."
WP - the arguments
So WP itself is not a chemical weapon and therefore not illegal. However, used in a certain way, it might become one. Not that "a certain way" can easily be defined, if at all.
The US can say therefore that this is not a chemical weapon and further, it argues that it is not the toxic properties but the heat from WP which causes the damage. And, this argument goes, since incendiary weapons are not covered by the CWC, therefore the use of WP against combatants is not prohibited.
Critics claim that the US used chemical weapons in Falluja, on the grounds that it is the toxic properties which cause the harm. The UK's Guardian newspaper for example said: "The US used chemical weapons in Iraq - and then lied about it."
There is an intense debate on the blog sites about this issue. "It's not a chemical weapon" says Liberal Against Terror. "CONFIRMED: WP is a CW if used to cause harm through toxic properties," says Daily Kos.
Tactical use of WP
The other argument is about the use of WP as a weapon.
The initial denials from the Pentagon suggest a certain hesitation, embarrassment even, about such a tactic. Some decisions must have been taken in the past to limit its use in certain battlefield scenarios (urban warfare for example). It is not used against civilians.
However the United States has not signed up to a convention covering incendiary weapons which seeks to restrict their use.
This convention has the cumbersome title "Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons." Agreed in 1980, its Protocol III covers "Prohibitions or Restrictions on use of Incendiary Weapons."
This prohibits WP or other incendiaries (like flamethrowers) against civilians or civilian objects and its use by air strikes against military targets located in a concentration of civilians. It also limits WP use by other means (such as mortars or direct fire from tanks) against military targets in a civilian area. Such targets have to be separated from civilian concentrations and "all feasible precautions" taken to avoid civilian casualties.
Notwithstanding the US position on the Convention, the use of WP against insurgents within Falluja does at least bring the issue into discussion, though one should note that the soldiers who wrote the Field Artillery article do say that their unit "encountered few civilians in its attack south".
Si besoj une keto pallavrat e islamikeve qe flasin fosfor te bardhe e injoranca si keto.
Fosfor i bardhe thone, lol. Po per Zarkawin qe ja plasi bomben mu e mes te Jordanis, pse nuk flisni mer lepra? Apo nuk ju lejo kuroni?
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