Po Na Zaptojne Greket Pak Nga Pak Mer Daj.
Hapin Shkolla Biznese Kurse Shqiptarit Te Shkretet Si Lejohet As Te Fleje Me Derrat Ne Greqi.
Skam Car Te Them Vetem Se I Urrej Pa Mase Rracen Me Te Shpifur Te Gjithe Planetit.
Psssssssss
Po Na Zaptojne Greket Pak Nga Pak Mer Daj.
Hapin Shkolla Biznese Kurse Shqiptarit Te Shkretet Si Lejohet As Te Fleje Me Derrat Ne Greqi.
Skam Car Te Them Vetem Se I Urrej Pa Mase Rracen Me Te Shpifur Te Gjithe Planetit.
KUJDESU TE GJESH NJE EKUILIBER ME VETVEHTEN....NUK ESHTE GJE E MIRE TE URRESH...Postuar më parë nga episodestory
Nuk ka njerez te perkryer ka vetem qellime te perkryera!
Or Manulak bashke me Qerimin. A jeni per investime ? Bujrum kush e pjerdh kushtetuten Shqiptare. Kushtetuta ndryshohet vit per vit jo vetem ne shqiperi por dhe ne shume vende te botes. I vetmi vend ne bote qe nuk ka ndryshime qysh nga fillimi i kushtetutes, ose eshte tmerresisht e veshtire ta nderrosh eshte Amerika qe ka nje sistem perfekt. Kshu qe lere kushtetuten se me ate leter ministrat fshine ate .... neper halete e Kuvendit rrezik.
Ti Manulak, me kete sjelljen tende per foshnjeje me demek, nuk rren askush. Shkolla Greke eshte nje rrezik shume i madh per ne, nje hap me tej ne greqizimin e komplet jugut, e ardhjese se priftave te tjere degjenerate qe na perdhunojne kalamajte, dhe e mohimit te nje realiteti shume te qarte, qe me Siriaket dhe Turqit e Greqizuar nuk do kete kurre paqe jo sepse e them une kete gje, por sepse realiteti tregon dita dites se cfare njerezish te prapambetur jetojne matane kufirit.
Kam degjuar lloj lloj idiotesirash ketu nga gjyshi im etj i kane dhene buke grekut kur ka ardhur nga lufta e deri tek argumente te tjera se si po kthehemi ne fene e te pareve avash avash etj etj. Faktikisht sbesoj qe njeri nga Jugu t'ja kete kthyer deren Grekut dhe kete e di fare mire. Kane ardhur si te zgjebosur ku po luftonin me italianin, dhe iken te lare te pastruar e te ngrene, vetem per te rishkruar historine ndryshe, per nje sulm shqiptar ndaj tyre, dhe per ngritjen e ligjit te luftes.
Ligji luftes ---> Ngritje shkolle eshte dicka paradoksale, dhe ngritja e shkolles do ngjaj gjithmone si nje baze e forte luftarake derisa ai ligj mos hiqet nga greqia(qe edhe po u hoq nuk na garanton ndonje gje te madhe megjithate).
Pra si keni fytyre te thoni per marredhenie pozitive, kur tjetri ka ligj lufte me ty, te hap shkollen mu ne qender te shqiptarise dhe ju qe hani dhe dru ne athine, ose qe ndihmoni qe te tjeret te hajne dru, rrini si drunj ?
Dru i kalbet biles... hipokrizi e nje niveli shume shume te larte.
"The true history of mankind will be written only when Albanians participate in it's writing." -ML
Cyclotomic, pa dashur te replikoj me ty personalisht do desha te bej nje verejtje ne lidhje me Ligjin e Luftes....Fillimisht ia vlen te theksoj se personalisht kete ligj do ta konsideroja "Ligji i Turpit" pasi eshte dicka e padrejte ruajtja nga ana e Greqise e ketij ligji ne nje kohe qe Greqia kishte marredhenie te shkelqyera me Italine dhe Gjermanine te cilet ishin dhe pushtuesit e vertete e jo shqiptaret te cilet ishin te pushtuar...
Ajo qe desha te them eshte se duhet te shohim perpara...Ekaluara i perket se kaluares dhe e ardhmja i perket se ardhmes...
Gjithashtu desha te them se per punen e ketij ligji kam debatuar ne shume forume greke deri sa nje dite hyra ne faqen e Ministrise se Jashteme Greke dhe lexova dhe mbi "Marredheniet Greko-Shqiptare" ku permendet dhe "Ligji i Luftes" dhe pala greke shprehet se ky ligj eshte shfuqizuar ne vitin 1987 me vendim te Kesshillit te Ministrave pas propozimit qe beri ministri i Jashtem i atehershem dhe presidenti i sotem i Greqise Karolos Papulias...
Ky eshte materiali..............
kjo eshte adresa....
http://www.mfa.gr/greek/foreign_poli...s/albania.html
Αλβανία
ΓΕΝΙΚΑ
Στόχος της ελληνικής πολιτικής είναι η διασφάλιση της σταθερότητας, ανάπτυξης και ευημερίας της Αλβανίας. Η διαδικασία ενσωμάτωσης της Αλβανίας στην ΕΕ, υπό την προϋπόθεση βεβαίως του σεβασμού των κριτηρίων και όρων που θέτει η ΕΕ, αποτελεί στρατηγικό στόχο της Ελλάδος. Όπως και κατά το παρελθόν, η Ελλάδα δεν θα φεισθεί προσπαθιών προκειμένου να ενισχύσει με κάθε τρόπο τις σχέσεις με την φίλη και γειτονική Αλβανία.
Πρόεδρος της Δημοκρατίας της Αλβανίας είναι ο κ. Άλφρεντ Μωϋσίου, οποίος εξελέγη στο ανώτατο αξίωμα τον Ιούνιο 2002. Στις κοινοβουλευτικές εκλογές του 2001, νικητής ανεδείχθη το Σοσιαλιστικό Κόμμα, ο Πρόεδρος του οποίου κ. Φατός Νάνο σχημάτισε κυβέρνηση συνασπισμού. Στο κυβερνητικό σχήμα συμμετέχουν επίσης στελέχη του Κόμματος της Ένωσης Ανθρωπίνων Δικαιωμάτων (ΚΕΑΔ).
Α. ΔΙΜΕΡΕΙΣ ΣΧΕΣΕΙΣ ΕΛΛΑΔΑΣ-ΑΛΒΑΝΙΑΣ
Τα τελευταία έτη η ελληνο-αλβανικές σχέσεις έχουν εισέλθει σε πορεία σταθερούς ανάπτυξης. Καταλυτικό ρόλο έχει διαδραματίσει η ιδιότητα της Ελλάδος ως μέλους της Ευρωπαϊκής Ένωσης και του ΝΑΤΟ καθώς και οι ελληνικές πρωτοβουλίες για την εμπέδωση της ειρήνης και ανάπτυξη της συνεργασίας στη περιοχή. Ενδεικτικό στοιχείο είναι ο χαρακτηρισμός της Ελλάδος από την σημερινή αλβανική κυβέρνηση ως "στρατηγικού εταίρου".
Σημαντικές πράξεις που σηματοδότησαν την ανάπτυξη και εμπλουτισμό της διμερούς συνεργασίας υπήρξε η απόφαση της Ελληνικής Κυβέρνησης δια πράξεως του Υπουργικού Συμβουλίου (28/08/1987) για την άρση του "Εμπόλεμου" με την Αλβανία καθώς και η υπογραφή στις 21 Μαρτίου 1996 του Συμφώνου Φιλίας, Συνεργασίας, Καλής Γειτονίας & Ασφάλειας μεταξύ των Υπουργών Εξωτερικών των δυο χωρών στα Τίρανα.
Στις 28 Αυγούστου 1987, μετά από διεξοδική συζήτηση το Υπουργικό Συμβούλιο αποφάσισε ομόφωνα την άρση της εμπόλεμης κατάστασης με την Αλβανία όπως εισηγήθηκε ο τότε Υπουργός Εξωτερικών κ. Κάρολος Παπούλιας και εξέδωσε την ακόλουθη ανακοίνωση:
"Η Κυβέρνηση αποφαίνεται και δηλώνει ότι ο χαρακτήρας της Αλβανίας σαν εχθρικού κράτους έχει πάψει να υφίσταται.
Η ελληνική Κυβέρνηση είναι πεπεισμένη ότι η δήλωση της αυτή αποτελεί την αφετηρία για τη ρύθμιση των ζητημάτων που είναι ακόμη εκκρεμή ανάμεσα στις δυο χώρες.
Ήδη οι αρμόδιες ελληνικές υπηρεσίες μελετούν προσεκτικά τον προσφορότερο τρόπο για τη νομική ρύθμιση των εκκρεμοτήτων αυτών.
Ο τερματισμός της προηγούμενης κατάστασης θα συμβάλλει στην περαιτέρω σύσφιξη των σχέσεων των δύο φίλων χωρών και τη διεύρυνση της μεταξύ τους συνεργασίας. Ειδικότερα θα είναι προς όφελος της ελληνικής μειονότητας, για την οποία το ενδιαφέρον της Ελληνικής Κυβέρνησης ήταν και θα παραμείνει αμέριστο και η οποία, καλλιεργώντας τις παραδόσεις και την εθνική της ταυτότητα θα αποτελεί μια σταθερή γέφυρα φιλίας ανάμεσα στον ελληνικό και τον αλβανικό λαό".
Po e postoj dhe anglisht per ata qe nuk kuptojne greqisht.....
Albania
GENERAL OVERVIEW
Albania's stability, development and prosperity are among Greece's foreign policy priorities. Greece's strategic goal vis-a-vis Albania is the European integration of the country, based on EU standards. As it has done in the past, Greece continues to intensify its efforts in order to strengthen its bilateral relations with the neighboring and friendly country of the Republic of Albania.
Mr. Alfred Moisiu is the President of the Republic of Albania. He became President in June 2002. In the parliamentary elections of 2001, the Socialist Party under the leadership of Mr. Fatos Nano formed a coalition government. Members of the Human Rights Union Party, the political expression of the Greek ethnic minority in Albania, participate in the above-mentioned coalition.
A. BILATERAL RELATIONS BETWEEN GREECE AND ALBANIA
In recent years, Greek-Albanian relations have developed steadily, covering a wide range of areas of mutual interest. Greece is considered to be a "strategic partner" of Albania by the Albanian government.
The Hellenic Republic, by an enactment of the Cabinet on 28 August 1987, decided on the lifting of the "State of War" with Albania. The signing of the Treaty on Friendship, Cooperation, Good Neighborliness and Security between the Ministers of Foreign Affairs of the two countries (21 March 1996, in Tirana) is considered to be an important basis upon which Greece and Albania have mutually strengthened their bilateral relations and definitely turned the page of the past. The Treaty has been ratified by the two parliaments.
On 28 August 1987 the Hellenic government voted unanimously for the lifting of the "State of War" with Albania in accordance with the address of Mr. Papoulias, Minister of Foreign Affairs at the time, to the Cabinet. The relevant decision stipulated the following:
"The government declares that Albania is no longer perceived as an enemy state. The Greek government is convinced that this statement constitutes the starting-point for the settlement of issues pending between the two countries.
The competent Greek authorities are already carefully working on the appropriate measures to settle pending issues in a legal manner.
Leaving behind the status quo ante, both countries will promote, on a friendly basis, their bilateral relations. This will be beneficial for the Greek minority, for which the Greek government holds a special interest, and which, by preserving its tradition and its ethnic identity, will serve as a bridge of friendship between the Greek and the Albanian peoples".
Nuk ka njerez te perkryer ka vetem qellime te perkryera!
Albania Asks Greece to Scrap ``State of War''
TIRANA, July 31 - Albanian President Rexhep Meidani called on neighbouring
Greece on Monday to scrap a law dating back to World War Two which declares a
state of war between the two countries.
The law, passed in 1940 when Greece was invaded by Italian troops through
Albania, was repealed by the Greek government in 1987 but has never been
nullified by Greece's parliament.
It is only a technicality and Greece ranks second behind Italy as a trading
partner and investor in Albania.
``It is unacceptable that the law of the state of war is still valid,''
Meidani told visiting Greek Defence Minister Akis Tsohatzopoulos.''It hinders
investments, exchanges between the two countries and integration processes.''
Albanian officials say the law prevents Albanians from claiming property they
owned in Greece prior to World War Two.
More than 400,000 Albanians, most of them without regular permits, work in
Greece as immigrants. Albania is home to a sizeable ethnic Greek community.
Tsohatzopoulos was in Tirana to attend the departure ceremony of a 150-strong
Greek army contingent of engineers who had repaired schools, clinics and
military infrastructure as well as helping Albania cope with the Kosovo
refugee crisis.
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Si i behet hallit ? Cdo ky ligj akoma ne kohen e Meidanit ? Jo per gje por qe vete Stephanopulos qe e tha kete gje, dhe per me teper mbasi iku shkoi dhe ne bruksel dhe tha qe "SHQIPERIA MBAN PENG TOKA GREKE NE EPIR". Kjo eshte deklarate shume here me e keqe se ligji luftes, eshte lufte faktikisht. Kur ju be pyetja per Camet aq qe e rrujti fare. Nese do me rregullu marredheniet kjo nuk fillon nga Iliazat e greqizuar, kjo fillon nga nje histori teper e gjate, qe me sa po shoh, as nuk ka per tu korrigjuar kurre, dhe kjo gje ne te ardhmen ose do rri si akrobati ne tel, ose do kete pasoja shume here me te renda per te gjithe Ballkanin. Ka qene vete Drashkovici qe ka paralajmeruar se konflikti ne ballkan do spostohet ne Shqiperine e Jugut tashme duke qene se Kosova u humb, Maqedonia avash avash po stabilizohet dhe Mali i Zi gjithmon e me teper po merr pavarsine qe deshiron.
"The true history of mankind will be written only when Albanians participate in it's writing." -ML
Me sa kam arritur une te kuptoj, qe atje nuk thuhet, flitet qe ka hequr "technical state-of-war" , pra siduket ka hequr mobilizimin ushtarak, por jo ligjin. Jane gjera krejt te ndryshme, sepse jo me kot qeveria Shqiptare ka perseritur kushedi sa here keto 4 vitet e fundit heqjes se ligjit.
"The true history of mankind will be written only when Albanians participate in it's writing." -ML
Στις 28 Αυγούστου 1987, μετά από διεξοδική συζήτηση το Υπουργικό Συμβούλιο αποφάσισε ομόφωνα την άρση της εμπόλεμης κατάστασης με την Αλβανία όπως εισηγήθηκε ο τότε Υπουργός Εξωτερικών κ. Κάρολος Παπούλιας και εξέδωσε την ακόλουθη ανακοίνωση:
Une ne greqisht une e kuptoj qe do te thote shfuqizim i ketij ligji.....
ose me poshte......
The steady, positive course of bilateral relations had already been set in April 2003, when Albania's Prime Minister Mr. Fatos Nano visited Athens and met with the then Prime Minister of Greece, Mr. Costas Simitis. Discussions between the two delegations were held in a friendly atmosphere covering a wide range of issues regarding recent developments in the Balkans. Furthermore, the Greek side supported Albania's European integration perspective. On 2 April 2003, during the same meeting, the then prime minister Mr. Costas Simitis underlined that there is no longer a "State of War" with Albania, since the Greek government, through the abovementioned Cabinet's Act, decided on the lifting of the "State of War". Furthermore, the signing of the Treaty on Friendship, Cooperation, Good Neighborliness and Security between the two countries in 1996, which was ratified by the Parliaments of both countries, has lifted all kinds of obstacles referring to the past. The Albanian Prime Minister fully agreed with Mr. Simitis. This fact was also confirmed by Mr. Nano's statement during the Plenary Session of the Albanian Parliament, held on 12 May 2003, when he stated the following: "…we also believe that the law on the State of War does not exist since the Treaty on Friendship and Cooperation between the two countries was signed in 1996. The State of War law belongs to the past."
Besoj se ketu gjerat jane me te qarta dhe te besueshme pasi keto jane publikime te Ministrise se Jashteme Greke e jo thenie te ndonje personi te cfaredoshem.....
Ndryshuar për herë të fundit nga tani_26 : 22-04-2005 më 12:32
Nuk ka njerez te perkryer ka vetem qellime te perkryera!
Ndersa un e shoh ndryshe neper enciklopedira. Technical State of War eshte kur shtetet jane ne gjendje gadishmerie numer 1 per lufte. Eshte si nivelet ne Amerike portokalli apo nivel te kuq e ca nivele te tjera qe nuk e mbaj mend. Vetem se ka rene niveli, ose nuk ka me gadishmeri numer 1 per lufte, nuk do te thote se ligji eshte hequr.
Pse Mejdani dhe vete Mojsiu madje kane kerkuar qe ky ligj te hiqet ?
Ose ne kemi politikane k_qe qe nuk dince cte kerkojne, ose edhe kesaj rradhe dinakeria alla "vorio epir" qe ska ekzistuar kurre, eshte aplikuar ne invers edhe ne kete rast.
"The true history of mankind will be written only when Albanians participate in it's writing." -ML
Une jam nder ata persona qe besoj e deshiroj qe te kete paqe dhe marredhenie te mira jo vetem me Greqine por edhe me vendet e tjera te Ballkanit.
Nuk me intereson aspak se cfare thote Drashkovici, gjithashtu nuk besoj se do te kete kurre nje konflikt shqiptaro-grek....
Nuk mund te krahasosh Greqine me Serbine.......Nejse, serbet do ta deshironin nje konflikt shqiptaro-grek, sigurisht kjo nuk na intereson aspak neve......
Nuk ka njerez te perkryer ka vetem qellime te perkryera!
Pervec faqes se ministrise se Jashteme greke qe e ke perpara une kam degjuar shpeshhere nga personalitete greke qe ligji i luftes nuk egziston...
Besoj se Greqia nuk ka ndonje interes te kete ende ligjin e luftes me Albanine...
Mos valle politikanet shqiptare nuk jane te mireinformuar?
Cfare qendrimi ka ambasada shqiptare ne Athine apo Ministria e Jashteme rreth kesaj teme?
Mos jemi kesaj radhe ne shqiptaret qe po bejme propagande?
Nuk ka njerez te perkryer ka vetem qellime te perkryera!
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