Cradle of the greek-spaiking tribes ? Po si na e shpjegon ti Tanush Topiaou fjalen Dodona ne greqisht ?
Cradle of the greek-spaiking tribes ? Po si na e shpjegon ti Tanush Topiaou fjalen Dodona ne greqisht ?
"The true history of mankind will be written only when Albanians participate in it's writing." -ML
cyclo relaks byrazer, kuptimi i nje fjale te vetme nuk eshte mjaft per te nxjerre perfundime se kush banonte atje, si pershembull ekzistenca e nje kishe ne vendin Kish ne kaukazi nuk eshte mjaft te konkludojme se ne jemi kaukaze. Po te kesh info me bindes sille ketu qe ta postoj ne forumin ballkanik, e te hap ndonje sherr me greket se si dobet ka qene keto kohet e fundit.
Pershendetje.
Shi shi. Knej kerkon argumenta per fustanelle kendeje te erdhi zeri me fol ? Qenke intelektual me telekomande ti, remote control me i llaf. Hajde hajde cna ka gjet.
Un po te them shkurt ty, me thuaj mua nga vjen emri i Grekeve meqe spaske qef me me fol per Dodonen.
Fundia nje pyetje akoma me e thjeshte. Ku bazohesh ti se Dodona eshte tempull grek ku quhet tempull pellazg nga te gjithe shkrimtaret e lashte(ato qe kan mbet) ?
Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga Hyllien : 19-04-2005 mė 17:07
"The true history of mankind will be written only when Albanians participate in it's writing." -ML
"me thuaj mua nga vjen emri i Grekeve"
E zeme ja gjetem fillin kesaj pune, e ca do konkludojme me tej prej kesaj?
"Ku bazohesh ti se Dodona eshte tempull grek ku quhet tempull pellazg nga te gjithe shkrimtaret e lashte"
Ben vaki ka qene tempull pellazg origjinalisht, po sjam aq i sigurte ca katandisi me vone, grek apo ilir.
""Shi shi. Knej kerkon argumenta per fustanelle kendeje te erdhi zeri me fol ? Qenke intelektual me telekomande ti, remote control me i llaf. Hajde hajde cna ka gjet.""
Qetsohu o i madh, siga siga, thjesht muhabet po bejme, mos merr flake.
E zeme se ja mbushim mendjen librave suvenir(aka Brittanica ose rishkrime te Homerit nga Easton press) ose personave suvenir, se fustanellen qe ke shkrujt te tema tjeter e kena vesh ne shqiptaret.Postuar mė parė nga King_Gentius
E car pastaj ? Car do συμπεραίνω prej kendeja ?
"The true history of mankind will be written only when Albanians participate in it's writing." -ML
"E car pastaj ? Car do συμπεραίνω prej kendeja ?"
Thjesht desha te dij origjinen, shqiptaret u a dhane grekeve, apo greket shqiptareve fustanellen.
Gjeta kete ne nje suvenir:
"The name Graecia, which was more or less vaguely given to the ancient country by the Romans, seems not to have been employed by any native writer before Aristotle; it was apparently derived by the Romans from the Illyrians, who applied the name of an Epirote tribe (IpaiKo(, Graeci) to all their southern neighbors. The names Hellas, Hellenes (EXXas, EX)u~ees), by which the ancient Greeks called their country and their race, and which are still employed by the modern Greeks, originally designated a small district in Phthiotis in Thessaly and its inhabitants, who gradually spread over the lands south of the Cambunian mountains. The name Hellenes was not universally applied to the Greek race until the post-Homeric epoch (Thucyd. i. 3)."
http://95.1911encyclopedia.org/G/GR/GREECE.htm
Wo wo wow ca gjeta dicka te re ne suvenir:
""The picturesque national costume, which is derived from the Albanian Tosks, has unfortunately been abandoned by the upper classes and the urban population.""
I njejti website, ate burimin e pare e kisha lexuar gabim, fustanella eshte shqiptare me origjin.
Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga King_Gentius : 19-04-2005 mė 23:12
""The Albanian population extends over all Attica and Megaris (except the towns of Athens, Peiraeus and Megara), the greater part of Boeotia, the eastern districts of Locris, the southern half of Euboea and the northern side of Andros, the whole of the islands of Salamis, Hydra, Spetsae and Poros, and part of Aegina, the whole of Corinthia and Argolis, the northern districts of Arcadia and the eastern portion of Achaea. There are also small Albanian groups in Laconia and Messenia (see ALBANIA). The Albanians, who call themselves Shkyipetar, and are called by the Greeks Arvanitae (Ap/3av~rai), belong to the Tosk or southern branch of the race; their immigration took place in the latter half of the i4th century. Their first settlements in the Morea were made in 1347-13 55. The Albanian colonization was first checked by the Turks; in 1454 an Albanian insurrection in the Morea against Byzantine rule was crushed by the Turkish general Tura Khan, whose aid had been invoked by the Palaeologi. With a few exceptions, the Albanians in Greece retained their Christian faith after the Turkish conquest. The failure of the insurrection of 1770 was followed by a settlement of Moslem Albanians, who had been employed by the Turks to suppress the revolt. The Christian Albanians have long lived on good terms with the Greeks while retaining their own customs and language and rarely intermarrying with their neighbors. They played a brilliant part during the War of Independence, and furnished the Greekswith many of their most distinguished leaders. The process of their Hellenization, which scarcely began till after the establishment of the kingdom, has been somewhat slow; most of the men can now speak Greek, but Albanian is still the language of the household. The Albanians, who are mainly occupied with agriculture, are less quick-witted, less versatile, and less addicted to politics than the Greeks, who regard them as intellectually their inferiors. A vigorous and manly race, they furnish the best soldiers in the Greek army, and also make excellent sailors.""
I njejti website.
King_Gentius,
The Albanians, who are mainly occupied with agriculture, are less quick-witted, less versatile, and less addicted to politics than the Greeks, who regard them as intellectually their inferiors.
Atehere i bie, qe ju djale, te pranoni njeren nga te dyja:
1- Jeni i shkathet dhe i shumeanshem ne mendim dhe politike, per rrjedhoje Grek
2- Jeni i ngathet dhe steril ne mendim dhe politike, per rrjedhoje Shqiptar. He se harrova, jeni bujk/blegtor i mire.
Ju lutem na sqaroni ku qendroni. Te njejten pyetje ja drejtoj edhe ideatorit/drejtorit te ketij forumi.
O djalosh, ai burim flet per shqiptaret rrotull vitit 1900, jo sot. Pastaj, kjo eshte arsyeja qe i postoj keto burime, qe te shikoni se cfare kane shkruar te tjeret per ne dhe te me thoni nese jeni dakort apo jo. Nqs nuk jeni dakort, postoni nje artikull tjeter qe thote mendimin e nje autori tjeter se si kan qene shqiptaret e asaj kohe, ose thjesht shfaqni mendimin tuaj mbi artikullin.
Fakti qe une i postoj nuk tregon kurrsesi se une jam dakort me cdo gje qe thone.
Qe ta besh ndarjen grek/shqiptar nuk mjafton nje faktor (sa flasin per politiken psh). Pyetja jote ska shum kuptim.
Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga King_Gentius : 20-04-2005 mė 02:12
King_Gentius,
O djalosh, ai burim flet per shqiptaret rrotull vitit 1900, jo sot.
Nese keshtu, atehere ai artikull ben fjale edhe per greket rrotull 1900, jo sot. Cfare ju shtyn ju le mendoni se Shqiptaret kane evoluar ndersa Greket mbetur ne vend ose devoluar?
Fakti qe une i postoj nuk tregon kurrsesi se une jam dakort me cdo gje qe thone.
Zakonisht burimet citohen per te ilustruar nje qendrim te caktuar. Kete ju pyeta: Cilin qendrim po mbani dhe ilustroni ne te njejetn kohe? Nuk hahet buke nga te tere anet, se kafshon gjuhen, eshte nje fjale e urte.
Qe ta besh ndarjen grek/shqiptar nuk mjafton nje faktor (sa flasin per politiken psh). Pyetja jote ska shum kuptim.
Atehere na rradhisni faktoret qe definojne kete ndarje/dallim. Pyetja ime nuk ka kuptim vetem per hibrided.
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