Gjyqet e Nyrembergut.

[darwin]

Une , si hapes i temes, ato qe doja te di, i di....ndryshe nuk do te te shkruaja per gjyqet e Nyrembergut. Dhe nuk me duket se kam shtruar dicka si pyetje! Pra kur nuk pyet dikush, nuk kerkon te dije dicka!

Vrasja e 6 milione cifuteve nuk perben krim?
Vrasja e 12 milione civileve , qytetare sovjetike nuk perben krim?

Shpallja e luftes duke shkelur me te dy kembet traktatet dhe marreveshjet nderkombetar qe vete Gjermania kishte nenshkruar nuk perben krim?

Perseri nga pikepamja juridike, ne cilin liber juridik ke lexuar ti qe dikush qe urdheron vrasjen e mijera e miliona njerezve te lihet i lire dhe te mos denohet?

Cilat na paskerkeshin qene krimet me te renda te bera nga fitimtaret ( keta nuk jane ne thonjeza sepse me te vertete e fituan luften)? I vetmi rast qe ti mund te me permendesh eshte bombardimi i Drezdenit...se me teper s'besoj te dish... Po krahasoje pak ate bombardimin e Drezdenit me bombardimin e Varshaves,Gdanskut, Kievit, Rostovit, Londres, Beogradit etj, meso pak sesi Gjermania i shpalli lufte gjithe botes dhe pastaj fol per "drejtesi". Drejtesia qe kerkon ti ekziston vetem ne imagjinaten e njerezve te semure, qe perpara se ti japin te drejte viktimes, hapin gojen dhe flasin per te drejtat e kriminelit.

Por meqe na qenke "eksperte" e juridikes, ne cilin manual te ushtrise gjermane te luftes se dyte na behet fjale per asgjesimin e civileve, kampet e shfarosjes ne mase, raprezaljet ndaj popullates?

oboboo. po pse vetem nga BigBrother e paske lexuar historine ??
sshh. mos e ngaterro me filmat

[darwin]

...One month before the end of World War 11, General Eisenhower issued special orders concerning the treatment of German Prisoners and specific in the language of those orders was this statement, "Prison enclosures are to provide no shelter or other comforts." Eisenhower biographer Stephen Ambrose, who was given access to the Eisenhower personal letters, states that he proposed to exterminate the entire German General Staff, thousands of people, after the war. Eisenhower, in his personal letters, did not merely hate the Nazi Regime, and the few who imposed its will down from the top, but that he hated the German people as a race. It was his personal intent to destroy as many of them as he could, and one way was to wipe out as many prisoners of war as possible.
Of course, that was illegal under International law, so he issued an order on March
10, 1945 and verified by his initials on a cable of that date, that German Prisoners
of War be redesignated as "Disarmed Enemy Forces" called in these reports as DEF. He ordered that these Germans did not fall under the Geneva Rules, and were not to be fed or given any water or medical attention. The Swiss Red Cross was not to inspect the camps, for under the DEF classification, they had no such authority or jurisdiction. Months after the war was officially over, Eisenhower's special German DEF camps were still in operation forcing the men into confinement, but denying that they were prisoners. As soon as the war was over, General George Patton simply turned his prisoners loose to fend for themselves and find their way home as best they could. Eisenhower was furious, and issued a specific order to Patton, to turn these men over to the DEF camps. Knowing Patton as we do from history, we know that these orders were largely ignored, and it may well be that Patton's untimely and curious death may have been a result of what he knew about these wretched Eisenhower DEF camps...


ndonje koment ne lidhje me kete ???

[darwin]

Pra Shqiperise nuk ja pati fajin as Amerika, as Anglia, as Rusia per renien ne kampin socialist, por ra viktime e nje sharlatani dhe nje karrieristi si Enver Hoxha qe per te mbajtur karriken e vet ia shiti atdheun Jugosllavise e Titos. Ndoshta je i vogel dhe nuk e ke degjuar qe ne vitin shkollor 1946-1947 ishte serbo-kroatishtja si gjuhe e huaj ne shkollat e mesme!!!! As frengjishtja, as anglishtja, as rusishtja!!!!

ndoshta, per Shqiperine, do te ishte me mire sikur te kishte qene gjermanishtja !!! (apo me shume rendesi ka si shkon bota sesa atdheu yt ) ???

[Toro]

...One month before the end of World War 11, General Eisenhower issued special orders concerning the treatment of German Prisoners and specific in the language of those orders was this statement, "Prison enclosures are to provide no shelter or other comforts." Eisenhower biographer Stephen Ambrose, who was given access to the Eisenhower personal letters, states that he proposed to exterminate the entire German General Staff, thousands of people, after the war. Eisenhower, in his personal letters, did not merely hate the Nazi Regime, and the few who imposed its will down from the top, but that he hated the German people as a race. It was his personal intent to destroy as many of them as he could, and one way was to wipe out as many prisoners of war as possible.
Of course, that was illegal under International law, so he issued an order on March
10, 1945 and verified by his initials on a cable of that date, that German Prisoners
of War be redesignated as "Disarmed Enemy Forces" called in these reports as DEF. He ordered that these Germans did not fall under the Geneva Rules, and were not to be fed or given any water or medical attention. The Swiss Red Cross was not to inspect the camps, for under the DEF classification, they had no such authority or jurisdiction. Months after the war was officially over, Eisenhower's special German DEF camps were still in operation forcing the men into confinement, but denying that they were prisoners. As soon as the war was over, General George Patton simply turned his prisoners loose to fend for themselves and find their way home as best they could. Eisenhower was furious, and issued a specific order to Patton, to turn these men over to the DEF camps. Knowing Patton as we do from history, we know that these orders were largely ignored, and it may well be that Patton's untimely and curious death may have been a result of what he knew about these wretched Eisenhower DEF camps...


ndonje koment ne lidhje me kete ???

Po, Duajt Ajnzenhaueri si duket i paska urryer shume gjermanet....Ndoshta ngaqe i kane njohur me mire !!!!! E ema dhe i ati ishin gjermane ( te lindur ne Gjermani dhe emigruan ne SHBA ne fillim te shekullit XX), ndersa ai vete, Duajt Ajzenhauer eshte nje nga gjermano-amerikanet , te cilet luftuan kunder "bashkepatrioteve" te tij qe i vune zjarrin botes.....

[darwin]

Po, Duajt Ajnzenhaueri si duket i paska urryer shume gjermanet....Ndoshta ngaqe i kane njohur me mire !!!!! E ema dhe i ati ishin gjermane ( te lindur ne Gjermani dhe emigruan ne SHBA ne fillim te shekullit XX), ndersa ai vete, Duajt Ajzenhauer eshte nje nga gjermano-amerikanet , te cilet luftuan kunder "bashkepatrioteve" te tij qe i vune zjarrin botes.....

hahaha, kjo po qe ishte e bukur !!!

Duajt Ajzenhauer ka qene hebre me origjine te larget suedeze, dhe ne akademine e West Point ku dhe ka studiuar thirrej ""IKE, THE TERRIBLE SWEDISH JEW"..

ne asnje menyre nuk ka qene gjerman !!

[darwin]

...Duajt Ajzenhauer eshte nje nga gjermano-amerikanet , te cilet luftuan kunder "bashkepatrioteve" te tij qe i vune zjarrin botes.....

zjarrin botes ???!!!!!! eh, pa merak se do diskutojme gjate per kete ceshtje, per te pare se "nga erdhen drute qe iu hodhen zjarrit" !!!
po tani u be mengjez.. dite tjeter,

[Toro]

hahaha, kjo po qe ishte e bukur !!!

Duajt Ajzenhauer ka qene hebre me origjine te larget suedeze, dhe ne akademine e West Point ku dhe ka studiuar thirrej ""IKE, THE TERRIBLE SWEDISH JEW"..

ne asnje menyre nuk ka qene gjerman !!

Nuk e di ku i ke marre te dhenat, por ne te gjitha faqet e gjermano-amerikaneve permendet qe Ajzenhaueri eshte gjerman!!!

Urdhero se cfare shkruhet ne njeren prej tyre:

The names of many of the German immigrants to America are well known on both sides of the Atlantic; and if I mention some tonight, they serve only as examples of those who have energized American life and culture. There is - as the first of these - Franz Daniel Pastorius, the founder of Germantown, a prophetic figure who projected a clear vision of the kind of country that the United States was to become. In advocating the separation of church and state, tolerance of religious and ethnic diversity, and the abolition of slavery, he was well ahead of his time. Another was William Rittenhouse, a minister and papermaker from Muehlheim on the Ruhr, whose great grandson, David Rittenhouse, served as the first director of the United States mint and achieved lasting fame as a mathematician, astronomer, and inventor. Thomas Jefferson was moved to say of him: "He has not indeed made a world, but he has intimately approached nearer its maker than any man who has lived." There was the printer, journalist, and publisher - Christopher Saur who was the first to print the bible in a European language in America. A more famous immigrant was John Peter Zenger who is still known in the United States as the "patron saint" of freedom of the press. And there was Hans Nikolaus Eisenhauer, an immigrant from Eiterbach, in what is now southern Hesse, who arrived in America in the middle of the 18th century, achieved neither wealth nor fame, but became the ancestor of Dwight David Eisenhower - the 34th President of the United States.

Ne cilendo makine kerkimi te internetit te shtypesh fjalet "german-american" do te gjesh perpara emrin e Ajzenhauerit...si dhe te admiralit Chester Nimitz!!!

Nuk po shtoj komente te tjera.

[darwin]

Nuk e di ku i ke marre te dhenat, por ne te gjitha faqet e gjermano-amerikaneve permendet qe Ajzenhaueri eshte gjerman!!!

And there was Hans Nikolaus Eisenhauer, an immigrant from Eiterbach, in what is now southern Hesse, who arrived in America in the middle of the 18th century, achieved neither wealth nor fame, but became the ancestor of Dwight David Eisenhower - the 34th President of the United States.

Nuk po shtoj komente te tjera.

Eisenhower's birth in Denison, Texas on October 14, 1890, the son of Jacob David Eisenhower and his wife Ida.

nuk para ka gjerman qe quhen Jacob, apo jo ??

[Toro]

Pse mos punon gje ne gjendjen civile te Nyrembergut ti keshtu? Dhe na ditke a e mbajene emrin Jacob gjermanet? Emri Jacob ashtu si 80% te emrave kristinane jane cifute.

Por meqe insiston, une po te jap dy persona , gjermane me emrin Jacob ( e kishin gjate LIIB!!!!)

1)Jacob Von Sporrenburg- SS Gruppenfuhrer und General Leiutenant der Polizei, me detyra gjate LIIB ne Norvegjine e Jugut dhe ne Lublin te Polonise.

2)Jacob Grobben, - SS Sturmbarnfurher und Major der SchutzPolizei, me detyre gjate LIIB ne Danimarke....

Sic e shikon....emer cifut mund te kete pasur dhe nje gjeneral i Gestapos dhe nje major i policise sekrete te Rajhut te III.....

Dhe tema jane gjyqet e Nyrembergut, jo origjina e Ajzenhaurit...Nese deshironi te diskutoni per teme tjeter nga e tashmja, ju lutem kini miresine te hani nje teme te re!

Ju faleminderit!

[darwin]

Pse mos punon gje ne gjendjen civile te Nyrembergut ti keshtu? Dhe na ditke a e mbajene emrin Jacob gjermanet? Emri Jacob ashtu si 80% te emrave kristinane jane cifute.

Por meqe insiston, une po te jap dy persona , gjermane me emrin Jacob ( e kishin gjate LIIB!!!!)

1)Jacob Von Sporrenburg- SS Gruppenfuhrer und General Leiutenant der Polizei, me detyra gjate LIIB ne Norvegjine e Jugut dhe ne Lublin te Polonise.

2)Jacob Grobben, - SS Sturmbarnfurher und Major der SchutzPolizei, me detyre gjate LIIB ne Danimarke....

Sic e shikon....emer cifut mund te kete pasur dhe nje gjeneral i Gestapos dhe nje major i policise sekrete te Rajhut te III.....

Dhe tema jane gjyqet e Nyrembergut, jo origjina e Ajzenhaurit...Nese deshironi te diskutoni per teme tjeter nga e tashmja, ju lutem kini miresine te hani nje teme te re!

Ju faleminderit!

pergezime per JACOB + SS searching on google !! megjithate origjina e tij nuk diskutohet fare.. IT's a kike !!

Une dyshoj te gjyqi i Nurembergut persa kohe do te kete padrejtesi te tjera qe mendoj qe as duhet te keni degjuar, jo me te jene procesuar ne ndonje proces nderkombetar !

P.sh, pas perfundimit te luftes se Pare Boterore dhe nenshkrimit te armpushimit (JO dorezimit dhe shpalljen fajtore te gjermaneve !!, po them vetem per armpushimin qe u nenshkrua ne nentor 1918) Aleatet vazhduan bllokaden detare ndaj Gjermanise edhe per 8 muaj te tjere, DUKE THYER QARTESISHT CDO LLOJ LOGJI QE KISHIN NENSHKRUAR VETE, dhe si pasoje me qindra mijera gjermane vdiqen nga uria.. t

Qe te jete bere ndonje gjyq per kete pune une nuk kam degjuar, po ju a e dini te pakten si histori ?? ka ndodhur njezet e kusur vjet para gjyqit te Nurembergut.
Po ka dhe plot gjera te tjera, qe meqenese je ne US nuk besoj se i jep FoxNews !!
po i them keto gjera, sa per te shperndare harten e mizorise ne kete bote, dhe jo double-standarts sepse sinqerisht eshte bere e merzitshme historia qe jep Televizori !!

pershendetje edhe juve..