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    Hieroglifet ilire

    Ne kete teme mund te sjellim te dhena per shkrimet e lashta ilire.Me poshte po jap disa te dhena dhe nje foto e nje amuleti ilir i gjetur ne Vinqe te Serbise se sotme.

    PRESENTATION
    by Marco Merlini


    Ioana Crişan's research (Reghin-Mureş, Romania) contributes to establish the continuity of Tartaria signs and Danube Script in the collective memory. The Danube Script appeared some 7,000 years ago in the Danube valley: in Serbia, Kosovo-Metohija, Southern Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Macedonia and northern Greece. It flourished for one and a half millennia. Around 5,500 years ago, a social upheaval eclipsed this and other elements of the advanced culture of the Danube Civilization. Some researchers argue that there were devastating invasions of new populations from the steppes while others have hypothesised the imposition of new dominant elites.
    Over the last seven thousand years, and continuing today, traditional pieces of folkloric art (from carpets to clothes) are being produced that continue these ancient signs. The lozenge, the X, the E, the b, the D, the M, the circle, the angle, the tree, the spiral, the angle, the cross, the rosette, short parallel lines are highly productive and persistent motives attesting to the Neolithic Script.
    Whilst Tartaria signs have not lost their popularity over the millennia as decorative motives, it remains the case that in rural tradition they are not purely ornamental elements but allusive expressions of religious ideas, codes associated with magic powers and basic symbols relating to the divinity and its epiphanies.
    Powerful geometric motives continue to be transmitted from mother to daughter, as Ioana Crişan witnesses herself as she inherited the beautiful collection by the mother who inherited from her own the mother. She continues working to complete the collection. That Neolithic-Chalcolithic Script also inherits this marked preference for abstraction and schematisation in the decorative design of folkloric art.
    Close to Tartaria, a small rural Transylvanian village of 5,000 inhabitants some kilometres from the well-known site of Turdaş, Nicolae Vlassa (an archaeologist at the Cluj Museum) in 1961, unearthed three clay tablets, covered with strange signs, together with a small cache of offerings, accompanying the charred bones of a mature human, estimated to be 35-40 years old. The accompanying artefacts, suggest this person was a Great Priest or a Shaman and that he was cremated during a sacrificial ritual. The archaeologist, who made the discovery, suggested the (unproven) hypothesis that a cannibalistic ceremony took place in Tartaria.
    These three small, inscribed tablets started a debate that is challenging the conventional wisdom of European prehistory, because they have been dated from around 6.500 years ago.¹ Some scholars argue they date even earlier at 7,300 years old.² More prudent researchers, date the stones to 6,000-5,800 years ago. In any case, the astonishing question is did the South-eastern Neolithic Europe develop its own script before Sumeria and Egypt?
    Given the context of the finding, the tablets from Tartaria are probably amulets or votive tablets. The clay is grey-reddish and crystallised, to the point of looking like tuff. Careful observation and analysis is needed to ascribe to them their potential value as a written document as they contain much more than ascertained from a cursory examination.
    Technical analysis of the Transylvanian tablets that the inscriptions are not simple signs or randomly distributed insignia, rather the inscriptions are characters from some type of writing system. There are three reasons for this conclusion.
    Firstly, it is easy to find similar signs also on other artefacts of the Danube civilisation, pointing to the fact that the characters of the Danube Script follow precise standard shapes and that scribes made use of an inventory.
    Secondly, the characters of this proto-European script, when compared to other archaic writings, are marked by a high degree of stylisation and a rectilinear shape. Thirdly, we may reasonably assume that the information communicated by each character was a specific one with a univocal meaning.
    Finally, whilst the inscriptions have varied patterns (in horizontal, vertical or circular rows), this variety has a clear structure, evidenced by the specific sequencing of the signs. In the majority of the cases, the Danube Script had a linear organisation, a feature shared with other pre-classic writings (Minoan Linear A, Cypriot-Minoan and Cypriot Syllabic).³
    Today, village life and its visual art and folk memory, has the capacity to reveal the heritage from Neolithic times through the importance of Tartaria signs, created thousands of years ago but of continued authenticity. As Crişan's article documents, in some Balkan-Carpathian rural areas, the Danube Script characters occasionally revived to enjoy a popularity they originally possessed in the early period of Danube civilisation.

    (The article translation from Romanian is by Doina Mureşan)

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    Amulete ilire ku jane perdorur hieroglife.
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    Sistemi i hieroglifeve ilire te gjetura ne Vinqa.

    Origin
    These symbols have been found on many of the artefacts excavated from sites in south-east Europe, in particular from Vinča near Belgrade, but also in Greece, Bulgaria, Romania, eastern Hungary, Moldova, southern Ukraine and the former Yugoslavia. The artefacts date from between the 7th and 4th millennia BC and those decorated with these symbols are between 8,000 and 6,500 years old.

    Some scholars believe that the Vinča symbols represent the earliest form of writing ever found, predating ancient Egyptian and Sumerian writing by thousands of years. Since the inscriptions are all short and appear on objects found in burial sites, and the language represented is not known, it is highly unlikely they will ever be deciphered.
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    Argjentinas Maska e ArberXYZ
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    Po per ata qe sdine anglisht, si do ja bejme?

    Edhe une du ta lexoj, po...

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    As une nuk njoh anglishten perfekt.Kushdo qe mund ta perktheje eshte i mireseardhur.

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    Nga teksti nuk del qe keto shkrime jane Ilire! Si e nxore kete konkluzion?

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    R[love]ution Maska e Hyllien
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    Perfundimi nxirret nga rrajoni dhe koha ku ka jetuar ky popull i madh. Pastaj e kam thene dhe ne tema te tjera... kush nuk do te quhet Ilir ose ta futi popullin Ilir ne repertorin e vet ?
    "The true history of mankind will be written only when Albanians participate in it's writing." -ML

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    Na doli Iliri dhe Ukraina tani? Para 6000 viteve nuk dime asgje jo vetem per iliret por gjithe popujt i.e

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    R[love]ution Maska e Hyllien
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    Lexohe ta kam dhene te qarte cfare thote Appiani. Pse cuditesh ti qe Iliria te kete qene e shtrire kaq shume. Mire e thote Enzo Gatti kush eshte ai popull qe i ka rezistuar 2 shekuj e gjysem romakeve ? Dhe mos harro... se ku ishim ne e ku ishin Romaket ne afersi gjeografike.

    Qe populli Ilir ka qene i stermadh kjo dihet dhe nga vete fakti qe krahinat dhe dialektet ne shqiperi ndryshojne ne menyre shume te qarte dhe te madhe do thoja. Kjo tregon qe ky popull dikur ka qene shume i shtrire.
    "The true history of mankind will be written only when Albanians participate in it's writing." -ML

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    Ne Ukrainen jugore jetonte fisi pellazg Karpoi qe ishte i perhapur edhe ne vise tjera perreth.Pra aty behet fjale per nje pjese te vogel te Ukraines dhe jo per tere Ukrainen.Fisi Karpoi i dha emrin Karpateve.

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