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    Ikon-thyes Maska e Qafir Arnaut
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    Judejte, te tjeret dhe Jezui

    Nje nder karakteristikat e te Krishtereve eshte se nuk e kuptojne dot se sa Hebre ishte Jezui gjate misionit te tij te falimentuar. Duke qene te mbrujtur me idene se jane 'te zgjedhurit' e Perendise te vetme qe ekziston (sepse pertonin te mbartnin idhuj te shumte gjate udhetimeve te tyre nomadike), gjithcka qe predikoi Jezui i perket vetem Hebrejve dhe aspak 'te tjereve'. Ne vete ungjillet ka episode ku del qarte se misioni i Jezuit ishte per cifute e askend tjeter.

    Psh, ne nje nga ungjijte tregohet se kur i kerkohet bekimi nga nje grua Samaritane (jo-cifute pra) ai eshte pergjigj: "Nuk eshte mire t'ia heqesh kafshaten e gojes femijes e t'ia hedhesh QENVE". Ne nje rast tjeter nje ushtarak Romak i kerkoi ti fliste per misionin e tij. Jezui u pergjigj "Nuk kam nder mend t'u hedh perlat derrave".

    Me vone nje hebre i diaspores si Sauli i Tarsusit lufton me 'komitetin qendror' te Jeruzalimit per mbartjen e mesazhit tek popujt e tjere. Te gjithe ishin KUNDER. Gjithe letra e drejtuar Galatsve eshte nje replike e ashper me Komitetin Qendror i cili insistonte qe te gjithe ata per pranonin mesazhin e Jezuit duhet te rrethpriteshin. Vete vellai i Jezuit ishte ai qe ishte me kembengulesi nga te tere Apostujt.

    Ok...leshoni mejtimet e tuaja tani...[kur them mejtime nuk them te shara]
    Adresat e faqeve personale mund ti vendosesh ne profil por jo ne firme. Stafi i Forumit

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    Perjashtuar Maska e Ryder
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    Nqs pret ndonje mendim me open-minded se ky qe ke then vete, te keshilloj ta hapesh temen te forumi i universtitetit te Cambridge jo ne nje dungeon te indoktrinuarish. (mendimi im...pa te shame) lol

    Fakti pse Jezui nuk kishte nevoje t'i predikonte "te tjereve" esht sepse te njejtat legjenda kane lundruar neper Europe Afrike dhe Azi me variacione te ndryshme ne popuj te ndryshem, nga Jezu te ndryshem...pavarsisht se sot s'mbahen mend.

    Adami dhe Eva, Molla e Dijenise, Permbytja dhe Arka e Noes, Samsoni, Abrahami etj...kane pasur ekuivalentet e tyre ne Greqi te Lashte, Babiloni, Libi etj...kshuqe secili popull i ka lidhur legjendat e kohes me egzistencen e vet. Nuk esht vec populli hebre qe e quante veten "popull i zgjedhur" ne ate kohe. Secili popull qe adoptonte fe, e quante veten "te zgjedhurit" e asaj feje.
    Zeusi jetonte ne Olimp (Greqi), Marduku ne Babiloni, Odini ne Skandinavi, Jehova ne Canaan etj. Pse Zotat ndihmuan greket kunder barbareve, ose hebrejte kunder egjiptianeve? Fe-komb s'jane dalluar atehere sa dallohen sot. (me zor edhe sot).

    Jezui ishte dege e Judaizmit qe u ADOPTUA nga te tjere per nje arsye ose nje tjeter. (s'po futemi te arsyet).
    Pati qellim tjeter Jezui pervec se per te vendosur edhe njehere sundimin e linjes se Davidit dhe Solomonit si mbret/profet dhe per te qen lider i Hebrejve?

    Si nje poster-boy Hollywoodi, te cilit i jepet nje imazh i caktuar nga miliarderet e studjove prodhuese, dhe vendoset ne nje drite qe esht e favorshme per publicitet dhe fame, Jezui u skulptua nga Roma dhe imazhi i tij kaloi metamorfoze nga ajo qe perfaqesonte ne te vertete ne nje imazh hyjnor shuuum larg qellimit te jetes se tij.

    Imazhi i Jezuit ne Islam esht prap larg qellimit te tij, po duke konsideruar rrenjet e perbashketa semite te ketyre popujve, dhe karakteristikat njerezore/historike te origjines se tij ne Kuran, permendja ne Islamizem me duket me e justifikuar...megjithse ne fund te fundit Judaizmit i takon fjala e fundit ne ceshtjen e adoptimit dhe shtremberimin te kultures mitologjise dhe traditave te tyre nga Kristian/Islamiket.

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    Shpirt Shqiptari Maska e Albo
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    Cfare nuk kuptoni:

    Faktin qe Jezu Krishti eshte Mbreti i Izraelit?
    Faktin qe populli i Zotit eshte populli i zgjedhur i Izraelit?
    Faktin qe Zoti i Bibles eshte Zoti i popullit te Izraelit?

    Vetem duke iu bashkuar popullit te Zotit, popullit te Izraelit dhe mbretit te Tij Jezu Krisht, qente dhe derrat (te gjithe ata qe nuk besojne ne Zotin e popullit te Izraelit) do te kene mundesi te shohin shpetim.

    Cfare ka ketu per te mos kuptuar?

    Albo
    "Babai i shtetit ėshtė Ismail "Qemali", e zbuloi Edvin shkencėtari!"

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    R[love]ution Maska e Hyllien
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    Kap. 4 - Ungjilli sipas Gjonit

    1 Pra, kur Zoti mori vesh se farisenjtė kishin dėgjuar se Jezusi po bėnte mė shumė dishepuj dhe po pagėzonte mė shumė se Gjoni

    2 (ndonėse nuk pagėzonte Jezusi vetė, por dishepujt e tij),

    3 e la Judenė dhe shkoi pėrsėri nė Galile.

    4 Por duhej tė kalonte nėpėr Samari. qysh ketu shifet se Jezusi ishte ndryshe, pra i hapur ndryshe nga Cifutet qe zgjidhnin gjithmone rruge tjeter per te kaluar.

    5 Arriti, pra, nė njė qytet tė Samarisė qė quhej Sihar, afėr tokės qė Jakobi i kishte dhėnė Jozefit, birit tė vet.

    6 Por aty ishte pusi i Jakobit. Dhe Jezusi, i lodhur nga udhėtimi, u ul pranė pusit; ishte rreth orės sė gjashtė.

    7 Njė grua nga Samaria erdhi tė nxjerrė ujė. Dhe Jezusi i tha: ``Mė jep tė pi``,

    8 sepse dishepujt e vet kishin shkuar nė qytet pėr tė blerė ushqime.

    9 Por gruaja samaritane i tha: ``Po qysh, ti qė je Juda kėrkon tė pish prej meje, qė jam njė grua samaritane?`` (Sepse Judenjtė nuk shoqėrohen me Samaritanėt).

    10 Jezusi u pėrgjigj dhe i tha: ``Po ta njihje ti dhuratėn e Perėndisė dhe kush ėshtė ai qė tė thotė: "Mė jep tė pi!", ti vetė do tė kėrkoje nga ai dhe ai do tė tė jepte ujė tė gjallė``.

    11 Gruaja i tha: ``Zot, ti nuk ke as kovė pėr tė nxjerrė dhe pusi ėshtė i thellė; nga e ke, pra, atė ujė tė gjallė?

    12 Vallė je mė i madh se Jakobi, ati ynė, qe na dha kėtė pus dhe piu prej tij ai vetė, bijtė e tij dhe bagėtitė e tij?``.

    13 Jezusi u pėrgjigj dhe i tha: ``Kushdo qė pi nga ky ujė, do tė ketė pėrsėri etje,

    14 por kush pi nga uji qė do t`i jap unė nuk do tė ketė mė kurrė etje pėrjetė; por uji qė unė do t`i jap do tė bėhet nė tė njė burim uji qė gufon nė jetė tė pėrjetshme``.

    15 Gruaja i tha: ``Zot, mė jep kėtė ujė, qė unė tė mos kem mė etje dhe tė mos vij kėtu tė nxjerr ujė!``.

    16 Jezusi i tha: ``Shko thirre burrin tėnd dhe eja kėtu``.

    17 Gruaja u pėrgjigj dhe i tha: ``Unė nuk kam burrė``. Jezusi i tha: ``Mirė the: "Nuk kam burrė",

    18 sepse ti kishe pesė burra dhe ky qė ke tani nuk ėshtė burri yt; pėr kėtė ke thėnė tė vėrtetėn!``.


    19 Gruaja i tha: ``Zot, po shoh se ti je njė profet.

    20 Etėrit tanė adhuronin mbi kėtė mal, dhe ju thoni se nė Jeruzalem ėshtė vendi ku duhet tė adhurojmė``.

    21 Jezusi i tha: ``O grua, mė beso: vjen ora qė as mbi kėtė mal as nė Jeruzalem nuk do tė adhuroni Atin.

    22 Ju adhuroni atė qė s`e njihni; ne adhurojmė atė qė njohim; sepse shpėtimi vjen nga Judenjtė.

    23 Por vjen ora, madje ajo ka ardhur, qė adhuruesit e vėrtetė ta adhurojnė Atin nė frymė dhe nė tė vėrtetėn, sepse tė tillė janė adhuruesit qė kėrkon Ati.

    24 Perėndia ėshtė Frymė, dhe ata qė e adhurojnė duhet t`a adhurojnė nė frymė dhe nė tė vėrtetėn``.


    25 Gruaja i tha: ``Unė e di se do tė vijė Mesia, qė e quajnė Krisht; kur tė ketė ardhur, ai do tė na kumtojė ēdo gjė``.

    26 Jezusi i tha: ``Unė jam, ai qė po tė flet!``.

    27 Nė kėtė moment erdhėn dishepujt e tij dhe u mrekulluan qė po fliste me njė grua; por asnjė nuk i tha: ``Ēfarė do?`` ose: ``Pse po flet me tė?``.

    28 Atėherė gruaja e la kovėn e saj dhe u kthye nė qytet dhe u tha njerėzve:

    29 ``Ejani tė shikoni njė njeri qė mė ka thėnė gjithēka kam bėrė; vallė mos ėshtė ky Krishti?``.

    30 Dolėn, pra, nga qyteti dhe erdhėn tek ai.

    31 Ndėrkaq dishepujt e vet po i luteshin duke thėnė: ``Mėsues, ha``.

    32 Por ai u tha atyre: ``Unė kam njė ushqim pėr tė ngrėnė tė cilin ju s`e njihni``.

    33 Prandaj dishepujt i thonin njėri-tjetrit: ``Mos i solli vallė dikush pėr tė ngrėnė?``.

    34 Jezusi u tha atyre: ``Ushqimi im ėshtė tė bėj vullnetin e atij qė mė dėrgoi dhe tė kryej veprėn e tij.

    35 A nuk thoni ju se ka edhe katėr muaj dhe vjen korrja? Ja, unė po ju them: Ngrini sytė tuaj dhe shikoni fushat qė tashmė zbardhojnė pėr korrjen.

    36 Korrėsi e merr shpėrblimin dhe mbledh frytin pėr jetėn e pėrjetshme, qė mbjellėsi dhe korrėsi tė gėzohen sėbashku.

    37 Sepse nė kėtė vėrtetohet e thėna: "Njė mbjell e tjetri korr".

    38 Unė ju dėrgova tė korrni atė pėr tė cilin ju nuk u munduat; tė tjerėt u munduan dhe ju hytė nė mundimin e tyre``.

    39 Dhe shumė Samaritanė nga ai qytet besuan nė tė, pėr shkak tė fjalės sė gruas qė dėshmoi: ``Ai mė tregoi gjithēka kam bėrė``.

    40 Por kur Samaritanėt erdhėn tek ai, e lutėn tė qėndrojė me ta; dhe ai ndenji aty dy ditė.

    41 Dhe shumė mė tepėr njerėz besuan pėr shkak tė fjalės sė tij.

    42 Dhe ata i thoshnin gruas: ``S`ėshtė mė vetėm pėr shkak tė fjalėve tė tua qė besojmė, por sepse ne vetė e kemi dėgjuar dhe dimė se ai ėshtė me tė vėrtetė Krishti, Shpėtimtari i botės``.

    43 Pra, si kaluan ato dy ditė, ai u nis prej andej dhe shkoi nė Galile,

    44 sepse vetė Jezusi dėshmoi se njė profet nuk nderohet nė vendlindjen e vet.

    45 Pra, kur arriti nė Galile, Galileasit e pritėn, sepse kishin parė tė gjitha ato qė kishte bėrė nė Jeruzalem gjatė festės, sepse edhe ata kishin shkuar pėr festė.

    46 Jezusi erdhi, pra, pėrsėri nė Kanė tė Galilesė, ku e kishte bėrė ujin verė. Dhe aty ishte njė nėpunės i mbretit, djali i tė cilit ishte i sėmurė nė Kapernaum.

    47 Ky, kur dėgjoi se Jezusi kishte ardhur nga Judeja nė Galile, shkoi tek ai dhe iu lut qė tė zbriste e ta shėronte birin e tij, qė ishte gati pėr vdekje.

    48 Atėherė Jezusi i tha: ``Po tė mos shikoni shenja dhe mrekulli, ju nuk besoni``.

    49 Nėpunėsi i mbretit i tha: ``Zot, zbrit para se djali im tė vdesė``.

    50 Jezusi i tha: ``Shko, djali yt jeton!``. Dhe ai njeri i besoi fjalės qė i tha Jezusi dhe shkoi.

    51 Pikėrisht kur ai po zbriste, i dolėn pėrpara shėrbėtorėt e vet dhe e informuan duke thėnė: ``Djali yt jeton!``.

    52 Dhe ai i pyeti ata nė cilėn orė u bė mė mirė; ata i thanė: ``Dje nė orėn e shtatė e lanė ethet``.

    53 Atėherė i ati e kuptoi se ishte pikėrisht nė atė orė nė tė cilėn Jezusi i kishte thėnė: ``Djali yt jeton``; dhe besoi ai dhe gjithė shtėpia e tij.

    54 Jezusi bėri edhe kėtė shenjė tė dytė, kur u kthye nga Judeja nė Galile.


    Shiko mire cbehet nga verseri 21-25. Shiko pra del qarte se kush eshte Jezusi, dhe cfare relacioni ka ai me cifutet, qe indirekt i nxjerr popull komplet tjeter per nga komplekset qe kane. Mos harrojme qe cifutet dhe mallkohen nga Zoti ne testament te ri. Mos harrojme gjithashtu se Zoti nuk ishte cifut i mirfillte por Aramaik. Pra Qafir shiko se si Jezusi nuk eshte ajo qe thua ti, por nje profet i te gjitheve, edhe i popullit me armik te Izraelit.


    Jezusi dhe Ushtari Romak, Luka kapitulli 7 1-10


    1 Si e pėrfundoi gjithė kėtė ligjėratė drejtuar popullit qė e dėgjoi, hyri nė Kapernaum.


    2 Tani njė centurion kishte njė shėrbėtor qė e donte shumė; e kishte tė sėmurė keq pėr vdekje.


    3 Dhe centurioni, kur dėgjoi pėr Jezusin, i dėrgoi disa pleq Judenj qė ta lusnin tė vinte e tė shėronte shėrbėtorin e tij.


    4 Si arritėn te Jezusi, ata e lutėn me ngulm duke i thėnė: ``Ai e meriton qė ti ta pranosh kėtė gjė,


    5 sepse ai e do popullin tonė dhe ai na e ndėrtoi sinagogėn``.


    6 Atėherė Jezusi shkoi me ta. E kur ishte jo shumė larg shtėpisė, centurioni dėrgoi disa miq tė tij pėr t`i thėnė: ``Zot, mos u shqetėso, sepse unė nuk jam i denjė qė ti tė hysh nėn pullazin tim.


    7 Pėr kėtė shkak nuk e ēmova veten tė denjė tė vij tek ti; por ti fol njė fjalė dhe shėrbėtori im do tė shėrohet.


    8 Sepse edhe unė jam njė njeri nėn autoritetin e tjetėrkujt dhe kam nėn urdhėr ushtarė; dhe i them njerit: "Shko", dhe ai shkon; dhe njė tjetri: "Eja", dhe ai vjen; dhe shėrbėtorit tim: "Bėjė kėtė", dhe ai e bėn``.


    9 Kur i dėgjoi kėto fjalė, Jezusi u mrekullua prej tij, dhe, duke iu drejtuar turmės qė i vinte pas, tha: ``Unė po ju them se as nė Izrael nuk kam gjetur njė besim kaq tė madh``.


    10 Dhe, kur tė dėrguarit u kthyen nė shtėpi, shėrbėtorin, qė kishte qenė i sėmurė, e gjetėn tė shėruar.



    Vllai i Jezusit ka qene kundra, megjithate kjo ska te bej fare me cfar konkluzionesh nxjerr ti qysh ne fillim. Tema eshte delikate eshte e vertete, por ke me plot raste ne Bibel ku Jezusi i drejtohet gjith njerezimit dhe i kundervihet Cifuteve si popull i zgjedhur. Vete fakti qe Apostujt kane qene ata qe kane predikuar mesimet e tija(Shqiperia nje nga vendet e para ne kete glob ku ka shkelur Mateu dhe sigurisht dihet qe ka qene dhe Shen Pietri). Atehere keta qe kane qene Cifut si ka mundesi qe nuk kane futur ndjenjen e dashurise per ate popull ne mesimet qe u dhane botes, por perkundrazi ka nje urrejtje te madhe ndaj tyre dhe ka pasur ne gjith Evropen e Krishtere ?
    Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga Hyllien : 11-08-2004 mė 11:34
    "The true history of mankind will be written only when Albanians participate in it's writing." -ML

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    Ikon-thyes Maska e Qafir Arnaut
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    Citim Postuar mė parė nga Cyclotomic

    Vllai i Jezusit ka qene kundra, megjithate kjo ska te bej fare me cfar konkluzionesh nxjerr ti qysh ne fillim. Tema eshte delikate eshte e vertete, por ke me plot raste ne Bibel ku Jezusi i drejtohet gjith njerezimit dhe i kundervihet Cifuteve si popull i zgjedhur. Vete fakti qe Apostujt kane qene ata qe kane predikuar mesimet e tija(Shqiperia nje nga vendet e para ne kete glob ku ka shkelur Mateu dhe sigurisht dihet qe ka qene dhe Shen Pietri). Atehere keta qe kane qene Cifut si ka mundesi qe nuk kane futur ndjenjen e dashurise per ate popull ne mesimet qe u dhane botes, por perkundrazi ka nje urrejtje te madhe ndaj tyre dhe ka pasur ne gjith Evropen e Krishtere ?
    Te gjithe Apostujt me perjashtim te Saulit te ashtuquajtur Paul kane vizituar diasporen Hebraike dhe jo paganet Romake e Greke. Krishterimin sic e njeh ti sot ja detyron me teper Pauli-it se sa Jezuit. Ministria e Jezuit ishte ekzkluzivisht per Cifutet. Qe te kuptohet c'thoshte ai duhet studiuar Judaizmi....te gjithe e Krishteret e sotem kane falimentuar ne ket drejtim. Ata perdorin terma te pa precedente jashte Judaizmit si "Mbreteria e Zotit" dhe "Mesia/Mashiach". Eshte injorance e thelle te cilen e konstatova gjate studimeve te mija fetare ne nje institutucion te arsimit te larte protestant.
    Adresat e faqeve personale mund ti vendosesh ne profil por jo ne firme. Stafi i Forumit

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    R[love]ution Maska e Hyllien
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    Protestantet rremuje e kan bere gjith boten, studimet e tyre kritike duke mbajtur nje pozicion edhe filozofik, edhe teologjik edhe fetar te thekur jane nje hipokrizi qe nuk ka ku te vete. O je njera o je tjetra, smund te jesh te treja bashke, sidomos e fundit fare, e cila nuk bashkejeton dot me te paren madje dhe me te dyten ne disa raste.

    Apostujt(jo te gjithe) kane ardhur ne Evrope qe kane shperndare Krishterimin dhe jo thjeshte Pauli, megjithate ti harron si jezusi e para punes ishte Aramaik dhe jo Cifut i mirfillte, dhe se Zoti i mallkon cifutet ne testamentin e ri.

    Tani ne si perfundim te do qe te stresosh piken qe duhet studiuar edhe Judaizmi, apo qe Krishti i ka dhene mesimet e tija vetem per Cifutet(qe nuk eshte aspak e vertete dhe te dhash pak shembuj siper) ?
    "The true history of mankind will be written only when Albanians participate in it's writing." -ML

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    yells `aziz! light!` Maska e AsgjėSikurDielli
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    the black light
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    Kjo vetem sa per ta vazhduar ate qe tha Ryder per ekzistimin e legjendave te ngjajshme mes popujve tjere.


    JESUS – CHRISNA – KRISHNA


    Chrisna (Krishna) was the Indian Apollo, born in 1200 BCE. He is represented as Avatar often, or the incarnation of the divinity. At his birth, choirs of Devitas (this is the name of, or for, angels) sang hymns of praise while shepherds surrounded his cradle. It was necessary to conceal his birth from the tyrant ruler, Canso, to whom it had been foretold that an infant savior would destroy him.1 Astute Christians should be able to see that the Christian tyrant King Herod is merely a retelling of the old pagan tyrant ruler, Canso. The Christian Herod story is strikingly similar to the pagan Chrisna/Canso mythology in nearly every feature.


    In the first place there is the angel warning. In the Christian story we are not specifically informed how the tyrant Herod first became apprised of the birth of the Judean Savior. The Hindu story is fuller, and indicates that the angel was not only sufficiently thoughtful to warn the parents to flee from a danger which threatened to dispossess them of a divine child, and the world of a savior, but was condescending enough to apprise the tyrant ruler (Cansa) of his danger likewise―as we are told he heard an angel’s voice announcing that a rival ruler was born in his kingdom.


    And hence, like Herod, he set about devising measures to destroy him. Why either of them should have taken such a circuitous or roundabout way of killing an infant, when the life of the strongest man, and every man in their kingdoms, was at their instant disposal, "divine inspiration" does not inform us. The child (Krishna) escaped with his parents beyond the coast of Lamouna.


    For a time he lived in obscurity, and then he commenced a public life distinguished for prowess and beneficence. He washed the feet of the Brahmins, the holy men of India, and then he preached the most excellent doctrines, but at length the power of his enemies prevailed. Before his untimely death he foretold the miseries: which would take place in the Caliyuga or wicked (Dark) ages of the world.


    Krishna (Chrisna) taught his followers that they alone were the true believers of the saving faith. He threw down the barriers of caste. He elevated the dogmas of the faith above the sacerdotal class. He admitted everyone who felt an inward desire to the ministry to preach the religion. We know quite a bit about Chrisna. For instance, at the very moment of his conception a god left heaven to enter the womb of his mother, who was a virgin. Immediately after his birth he was recognized as a divine personage and it was predicted that he would surpass all previous divine in carnations in holiness. Everyone adored him. Everyone saluted him and called him "god of gods."


    When he was twenty years old he went into the desert and lived there in retirement. He lived in simplicity and virtue and spent his time in religious contemplation. He was tempted in the desert in several ways. But, through his self-denial, he resisted all the seductive approaches of sin. He declared, "Religion is my essence." He experienced a lively opposition from the priests attached to the ancient creeds. But he triumphed over his enemies after holding a discussion with them in the temples. He revised the existing code of morals and social laws.


    It had been prophesied in "olden times" in Indian religion that a person would arise and redeem Hindustan from the "yoke of bondage." We know this: "At midnight, when the birth of Chrisna was taking place, the clouds emitted low music and poured down a rain of flowers. The celestial child was greeted with hymns by the attending spirits. The room was illuminated by his light, the light coming from Chrisna, and the countenances of his father and mother emitted rays of glory and they both bowed in worship." The people believed he was god. At his birth a marvelous light illumined the earth.


    Chrisna’s followers baptized and performed miraculous cures. When he was a child he attracted attention by his miracles. His life was devoted to mercy and charity. Chrisna left paradise from pure compassion, to die for suffering sinners. He sought to lead men to better paths and lives of virtue and rectitude. He suffered to atone for the sins of the entire world. But the sinner, through faith in him, could be saved. Chrisna proclaimed the equality of man in the sight of god.


    There was a problem with Chrisna. He undertook and counseled a constant struggle against the body. In his eyes the body was the enemy of man's soul. He aimed to subdue the body and the passions, which came to that body. To follow him required humility, the disregard to worldly wealth, patience and resignation to adversity, love of enemies, religious tolerance, non-resistance to evil, confession of sins, and conversion.


    Chrina received as disciples the outcasts of Hindu society. Chrisna died at last between two thieves. He led a pure and holy life, and was a meek, tender and benevolent being.


    The birthplace of Chrinsa was Mathura. If you remember your Bible you will know that this is similar to Maturea, between Nazareth and Egypt. There are many small tales of Chrisna. One day a woman came to him and anointed his hair with oil, and in return he healed her maladies. One of his first miracles was the healing of a leper. Chrisna was crucified. He descended into Hades. He rose form the dead and ascended ot Voicontah (heaven).


    Chrisna's mother was Maia. Mary? Let's look at Maia, his mother. She was pure and chaste. No animal food ever touched her lips. Honey and milk were her only sustenance. One evening, as she was praying, she was overshadowed by the spirit of god and she conceived god Chrisna in her womb then and there.


    Chrisna's full name was Chrisna Zeus, or Zeus Chrisna. Notice the similarity between Zeus and the name Jesus. Notice the similarity between Chrisna and Christ.

    Chrisna chose twelve disciples to aid him in propagating his doctrines. He spent most of his time working miracles, resuscitating the dead, healing lepers, restoring the deaf and blind, defending the weak against the strong, and in proclaiming his divine mission to redeem man from original sin. He wanted to banish evil and restore the reign of good. He came to Earth because Brahma sent his son Chrisna upon the earth to die for salvation of man. The title of Jesus was given to him because it means "pure". He was called the "Promised of god" and "Messiah." When he spoke it was often from a mount. He also spoke in parables.

    One of his parables is quite famous in India. A fisherman was much persecuted by his neighbors, but in a time of a sever famine when his neighbors were suffering and dying for the want of food, he carried food to these same persecuting neighbors, because he was so noble as to return good for evil, and he thus saved them from starvation. When Chrisna told his parable, he concluded it by saying, "Therefore, do good to all, both and evil and the good, even to your enemies."


    Once, when he entered the city of Madura, the people came out in flocks and strewed branches for him to walk on as he entered the city. Chrisna had a favorite disciple, Adjourna, and he had another disciple by the name of Angada, who followed him to the Ganges River and there betrayed him. When Chrisna's last hours came, at the bank of the Ganges he performed three ablutions, and looking up at the heavens, prayed to Brahma. He was nailed then to the cross, but the wood on which he was suspended became suddenly covered with great red flowers that diffused their fragrance all around him.


    Who was Chrisna? We are told that he was born in the year 1200 BCE in India. He was born on December 25th (that is the Indian month of Savarana) at midnight.


    Chrisna descended into hell to preach to the inmates of that dark and dreary prison when he died.



    FOOTNOTE:

    1 Cansa's decree ran thus: "Let active search be made for whatever young children there may be upon earth, and let every boy in whom there may be found signs of unusual greatness be slain without remorse."


    Now, let it be specially noticed that there is to this day in the cave temple at Elephants, in India, the sculptured likeness of a king represented with a drawn sword, and surrounded with slaughtered infants -- admitted by all writers to be much much older than Christianity. Mr Forbes, in his Oriental Memories, vol. iii. p. 447, says, "The figures of the slaughtered infants in the cave of Elephanta represent them as being all boys, who are surrounded by groups of figures of men and women in the act, apparently, of supplicating for those children."


    And Mr. Higgins, in his Anacalypsis, testifies relative to the case, that Chrishna was carried away by night, and concealed in a region remote from his natal place, for fear of a tyrant whose destroyer it had been foretold he would become, who, for that reason, had ordered all the male children born at that time to be slain. Sculptures in Elephanta attest the story where the tyrant is represented as destroying the children. The date of this sculpture is of the most remote antiquity. "He who hath ears to hear, let him hear," and deduce the pregnant inference, Joseph and Mary fled with the young Judean God into Egypt; Chrishna's parents likewise fled with the young Hindoo Savior to Gokul.

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    Ikon-thyes Maska e Qafir Arnaut
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    Shum po shndrit aj Diell, e pak po nxeh
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    AsgjeSikurDielli...ne nuk po perdorim argumente ekstra-biblike ne kete mes. Nuk jam dakord me Ryder pasi Jezui eshte teper i vecante edhe per Judaizmin dhe vete Judaizmi eshte teper i vecante (me perjashtim te mitologjise te Krijimit qe e kane marre nga popujt verdalle)
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    Ikon-thyes Maska e Qafir Arnaut
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    Shum po shndrit aj Diell, e pak po nxeh
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    Citim Postuar mė parė nga Cyclotomic
    Protestantet rremuje e kan bere gjith boten,?
    Ata jane pjelle e Kishes Katolike...le te mos harrohet kjo.
    Adresat e faqeve personale mund ti vendosesh ne profil por jo ne firme. Stafi i Forumit

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    yells `aziz! light!` Maska e AsgjėSikurDielli
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    the black light
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    Nuk po them asgje per Judaizmin, po flas per ngjajshmerite e Jezu Krishtit me Zeus Chrisna. Nese do te dish se vertete nga erdh Jezu Krishti dhe kush ishte ai, duhet te fusesh ne kete mes cdo dokument qe mund te te ndihmoje ne sqarimin e kesaj. Nuk shoh se pse gjerat "ekstra-biblike" nuk mund te tregojne per jeten e tij. Fundi fundit, Bibla eshte vetem permbledhje shkrimesh te njerezve dhe si ata e pane Jezusin dhe cdo gje rreth tij. Ky qe dhashe une, eshte vetem nje shembull tjeter.

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