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    Orwell dhe 1984

    I ka lexuar kush romanet e Orwellit, "Ferma e kafsheve" dhe "1984" ? Mua ne cdo rilexim me japin ndjesine e nje "deja vu"-je, aq shume ngjajshmeri kane me historine tone komuniste. Dhe te mendosh qe jane shkruar vetem 2 dhe 4 vjet pas lustes se dyte boterore.

    Per "1984", nese ndokush eshte kurioz, mund ta lexoje tek
    http://www.liferesearchuniversal.com/orwell.html
    Lulet edhe mund ti shkelin por Pranveren nuk mund ta ndalin dot.

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    "Ferma e kafsheve" kemi pare filmin. Orwell ehste me te vertete fantastik. Ka shkruar diēka te tille qe mund te komentohet gjithsesi.
    "1984"-en e kma blere dhe mezi pres te gjej pak kohe per ta lexuar. U mundova ta lexoj gjate kohes se provimeve por shume e veshtire. Duhe te jesh shume i perqendruar per ta kuptuar. Kur ta mbaroj do kem diēka per te thene shpresoj...
    Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga Saint-Simone : 30-07-2004 mė 07:41
    Thuaje te verteten; le te largohen prej teje te poshtrit.

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    •°¤*(ưTinkerBeLL°Æ)*¤°• Maska e ~xX`.:§¤§:.`Xx~
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    I've read the book "1984", so far its one of my favorite books, i recomend it to everyone. For those who don’t know “1984” is a futuristic novel, it was actually written in 1948 with the purpose of warning readers in the west of the dangers of totalitarian government. Having witnessed firsthand the horrific lengths to which totalitarian governments in Spain and Russia would go in order to sustain and increase their power, Orwell designed 1984 to sound the alarm in Western nations still unsure about how to approach the rise of communism.

    >>Plot<<: Winston Smith is a low-ranking member of the ruling Party in London, in the nation of Oceania. Everywhere Winston goes, even his own home, the Party watches him through telescreens; everywhere he looks he sees the face of the Party’s seemingly omniscient leader, a figure known only as Big Brother. The Party controls everything in Oceania, even the people’s history and language. Currently, the Party is forcing the implementation of an invented language called Newspeak, which attempts to prevent political rebellion by eliminating all words related to it. Even thinking rebellious thoughts is illegal. Such thoughtcrime is, in fact, the worst of all crimes.

    As the novel opens, Winston feels frustrated by the oppression and rigid control of the Party, which prohibits free thought, sex, and any expression of individuality. Winston dislikes the party and has illegally purchased a diary in which to write his criminal thoughts. He has also become fixated on a powerful Party member named O’Brien, whom Winston believes is a secret member of the Brotherhood—the mysterious, legendary group that works to overthrow the Party.


    Winston works in the Ministry of Truth, where he alters historical records to fit the needs of the Party. He notices a coworker, a beautiful dark-haired girl, staring at him, and worries that she is an informant who will turn him in for his thoughtcrime. He is troubled by the Party’s control of history: the Party claims that Oceania has always been allied with Eastasia in a war against Eurasia, but Winston seems to recall a time when this was not true. The Party also claims that Emmanuel Goldstein, the alleged leader of the Brotherhood, is the most dangerous man alive, but this does not seem plausible to Winston. Winston spends his evenings wandering through the poorest neighborhoods in London, where the proletarians, or proles, live squalid lives, relatively free of Party monitoring.


    One day, Winston receives a note from the dark-haired girl that reads “I love you.” She tells him her name, Julia, and they begin a covert affair, always on the lookout for signs of Party monitoring. Eventually they rent a room above the secondhand store in the prole district where Winston bought the diary. This relationship lasts for some time. Winston is sure that they will be caught and punished sooner or later (the fatalistic Winston knows that he has been doomed since he wrote his first diary entry), while Julia is more pragmatic and optimistic. As Winston’s affair with Julia progresses, his hatred for the Party grows more and more intense. At last, he receives the message that he has been waiting for: O’Brien wants to see him.
    Winston and Julia travel to O’Brien’s luxurious apartment. As a member of the powerful Inner Party (Winston belongs to the Outer Party), O’Brien leads a life of luxury that Winston can only imagine. O’Brien confirms to Winston and Julia that, like them, he hates the Party, and says that he works against it as a member of the Brotherhood. He indoctrinates Winston and Julia into the Brotherhood, and gives Winston a copy of Emmanuel Goldstein’s book, the manifesto of the Brotherhood. Winston reads the book—an amalgam of several forms of class-based twentieth-century social theory—to Julia in the room above the store. Suddenly, soldiers barge in and seize them. Mr. Charrington, the proprietor of the store, is revealed as having been a member of the Thought Police all along.

    Heheheheh this is where all the fun starts so if u wanna know what happens next READ THE BOOK!!! :@pp :@pp

    P.S: For those who have read the book….would u rather be a “prole” or do u wanna know the truth???
    Dare To Be DIFFERENT!

    ..xX..24/7 365 Sarandiote..Xx..

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    in bocca al lupo Maska e Leila
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    E kam gjetur librin 1984 kur bera community service ne librari, dhe iu luta te mi falnin ato libra qe po hidhnin. Kam rene ne dashuri me ate liber qe kur isha ne gjimnaz! E dua! E dua! Madje, thashe, djalit te pare do ia ve emrin Winston, ne kujtim te atij libri.
    Ah, po kur krijojne fjale ("thoughtcrime") dhe zhdukin fjalet nga fjalori qe ne mungese te atyre fjaleve, njerezit nuk do i mendonin ato gjera. Gruaja i thoshte per seksin, "Hajde te kryejne detyren tone ndaj partise!" S'ke si mos qeshesh ne ato momente. Dhe ishte shume humoristike kur fqinjet e tij u druheshin femijeve te tyre se mund te thonin qe prinderit kane folur kunder partise.
    Megjithese, deri aty sa e late librin, nuk mendoj se ngjarjet jane interesante. Thjesht shume te trishta. Kur i nxorren minjte atij te shkretit... o bo boo... thashe, prej sot e tutje do genjej, do them qe kam fobi... ullinjte apo domatet. lol
    Sa e tmerrshme.
    Nje liber qe trajton tema te peraferta si te 1984, eshte The Handmaiden's Tale nga Margaret Atwood.

    Animal Farm e kam lexuar dhe kam bere dhe hartime mbi te ku diskutuam temat, etj.. E kishim required ne klasen e AP English, por kam dashur ta lexoja me vite perpara asaj (sa shume libra, sa pak kohe). Sa m'u dha shansi, e perpiva. George Orwell... nje nga shkrimtaret e mij me te dashur.
    Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga Leila : 26-09-2004 mė 23:59
    trendafila manushaqe
    ne dyshek te zoterise tate
    me dhe besen e me ke
    dhe shega me s'me nxe

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    •°¤*(ưTinkerBeLL°Æ)*¤°• Maska e ~xX`.:§¤§:.`Xx~
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    Urdheroni dhe plotin e Animal Farm.

    Old Major, a prize-winning boar, gathers the animals of the Manor Farm for a meeting in the big barn. He tells them of a dream he has had in which all animals live together with no human beings to oppress or control them. He tells the animals that they must work toward such a paradise and teaches them a song called “Beasts of England,” in which his dream vision is lyrically described. The animals greet Major’s vision with great enthusiasm. When he dies only three nights after the meeting, three younger pigs—Snowball, Napoleon, and Squealer—formulate his main principles into a philosophy called Animalism. Late one night, the animals manage to defeat the farmer Mr. Jones in a battle, running him off the land. They rename the property Animal Farm and dedicate themselves to achieving Major’s dream. The cart-horse Boxer devotes himself to the cause with particular zeal, committing his great strength to the prosperity of the farm and adopting as a personal maxim the affirmation “I will work harder.”

    At first, Animal Farm prospers. Snowball works at teaching the animals to read, and Napoleon takes a group of young puppies to educate them in the principles of Animalism. When Mr. Jones reappears to take back his farm, the animals defeat him again, in what comes to be known as the Battle of the Cowshed, and take the farmer’s abandoned gun as a token of their victory. As time passes, however, Napoleon and Snowball increasingly quibble over the future of the farm, and they begin to struggle with each other for power and influence among the other animals. Snowball concocts a scheme to build an electricity-generating windmill, but Napoleon solidly opposes the plan. At the meeting to vote on whether to take up the project, Snowball gives a passionate speech. Although Napoleon gives only a brief retort, he then makes a strange noise, and nine attack dogs—the puppies that Napoleon had confiscated in order to “educate”—burst into the barn and chase Snowball from the farm. Napoleon assumes leadership of Animal Farm and declares that there will be no more meetings. From that point on, he asserts, the pigs alone will make all of the decisions—for the good of every animal.

    Napoleon now quickly changes his mind about the windmill, and the animals, especially Boxer, devote their efforts to completing it. One day, after a storm, the animals find the windmill toppled. The human farmers in the area declare smugly that the animals made the walls too thin, but Napoleon claims that Snowball returned to the farm to sabotage the windmill. He stages a great purge, during which various animals who have allegedly participated in Snowball’s great conspiracy—meaning any animal who opposes Napoleon’s uncontested leadership—meet instant death at the teeth of the attack dogs. With his leadership unquestioned (Boxer has taken up a second maxim, “Napoleon is always right”), Napoleon begins expanding his powers, rewriting history to make Snowball a villain. Napoleon also begins to act more and more like a human being—sleeping in a bed, drinking whisky, and engaging in trade with neighboring farmers. The original Animalist principles strictly forbade such activities, but Squealer, Napoleon’s propagandist, justifies every action to the other animals, convincing them that Napoleon is a great leader and is making things better for everyone—despite the fact that the common animals are cold, hungry, and overworked.

    Mr. Frederick, a neighboring farmer, cheats Napoleon in the purchase of some timber and then attacks the farm and dynamites the windmill, which had been rebuilt at great expense. After the demolition of the windmill, a pitched battle ensues, during which Boxer receives major wounds. The animals rout the farmers, but Boxer’s injuries weaken him. When he later falls while working on the windmill, he senses that his time has nearly come. One day, Boxer is nowhere to be found. According to Squealer, Boxer has died in peace after having been taken to the hospital, praising the Rebellion with his last breath. In actuality, Napoleon has sold his most loyal and long-suffering worker to a glue maker in order to get money for whisky.

    Years pass on Animal Farm, and the pigs become more and more like human beings—walking upright, carrying whips, and wearing clothes. Eventually, the seven principles of Animalism, known as the Seven Commandments and inscribed on the side of the barn, become reduced to a single principle reading “all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.” Napoleon entertains a human farmer named Mr. Pilkington at a dinner and declares his intent to ally himself with the human farmers against the laboring classes of both the human and animal communities. He also changes the name of Animal Farm back to the Manor Farm, claiming that this title is the “correct” one. Looking in at the party of elites through the farmhouse window, the common animals can no longer tell which are the pigs and which are the human beings.
    Dare To Be DIFFERENT!

    ..xX..24/7 365 Sarandiote..Xx..

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    •°¤*(ưTinkerBeLL°Æ)*¤°• Maska e ~xX`.:§¤§:.`Xx~
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    "Megjithese, deri aty sa e late librin, nuk mendoj se ngjarjet jane interesante. Thjesht shume te tishta."

    Leila, I didn’t include the conclusion for 1984 on purpose because I didn’t want to spoil the book for those people who are reading it or for those who are considering on reading it. Ok? Hope u Understand .Thnx
    Dare To Be DIFFERENT!

    ..xX..24/7 365 Sarandiote..Xx..

  7. #7
    ~*SoMeOne's LiL SuGar*~ Maska e sweet_babe
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    uuuuu aman....e kisha per te analizuar gjithe librin
    ANIMAL FARM kete vere.....
    (shyqyr per webet...se do kisha marre nje dysh :p)
    sme terhoqi aq shume si liber por prape kishte shume kuptim te thelle...
    eshte me shume per njerezit qe jane into political stuff and all that.....
    te ndihmon te krijosh nje iluzion ose picture si ishte jeta
    during the Russian Revolution e ca behej ne ate kohe....
    keta kane qene me keq se ne ne kohen e Enverit
    po ketyre te pakten iu jane botuar dhe libra kurse ne
    o i harruar o karte pa shkruar......
    ~* After the baby talk the Gu Gu Ga Ga, you ask me can you be my Bi Ej Bi Y*~

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    tinkerbell,
    even though you're not telling them the ending of "1984" you're still ruining it for them. The books is as much about the details, as it is about the unpredictable ending. Nejse, liber i madh, ka status ikone. Rekomandimet e mia do ishin si per ty dhe Leila (dukeni si vajza me kapacitet), cdo liber nga Nietzsche por ne vecanti "Human, All-too-human", "Beyond good and evil", "The Antichrist".

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    •°¤*(ưTinkerBeLL°Æ)*¤°• Maska e ~xX`.:§¤§:.`Xx~
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    Regarding my question which no body answered :^naterres …… Under the circumstances of the book, personally I would rather be a prole and live an ignorant life then know the truth and be miserable.

    Kalofshit Bukur :^lulja3
    Dare To Be DIFFERENT!

    ..xX..24/7 365 Sarandiote..Xx..

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    •°¤*(ưTinkerBeLL°Æ)*¤°• Maska e ~xX`.:§¤§:.`Xx~
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    I_pakapshem thnx per rekomandimet :)
    Dare To Be DIFFERENT!

    ..xX..24/7 365 Sarandiote..Xx..

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