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  1. #21
    Ikon-thyes Maska e Qafir Arnaut
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    Citim Postuar më parë nga Albo

    Nje popull pa identitet kombetar


    Ndarjet ne rradhet e shqiptareve te sotem jane te medha, ato variojne nga ndarje gjaku, feje, gjuhe, tradite, histori, politike, krahinore. Cdo popull tjeter ne bote, ne levizjen e vete kombformuese ka patur ne themel te vete nje esence te perbashket qe i ka bashkuar si popull ne nje identitet te perbashket kombetar. Ne shumicen e rasteve, berthama e perbashket e popujve ka qene feja. Kjo nuk eshte e vertete per shqiptaret te cilet jo vetem qe i perkasin feve te ndryshme por nje pjese e mire e tyre jane produktet e rregjimit te vetem ateist ne bote.

    .
    Nuk jam i sigurt per sa % te kombeve ka qene feja si bosht identiteti. Sidoqofte, ne e kemi nje bosht te vetem i cili eshte : GJUHA SHQIPE. E vetmja gje qe e ben nje Shqiptar, Shqiptar eshte GJUHA AMTARE SHQIPE.

    Albo vajton se s'paskemi fene si bosht identiteti. Por mire mo Albo! Meqe thua ti le ta bejme edhe ne nje fe, mqs te tjerat s'na vijne per shtat. Teza: Feja e Shqyptarit asht Shqyptaria. Le te bejme te kunderten e Judejve qe evoluan nga nje fe ne nje komb. Le te evolojme edhe ne nga nje komb ne nje fe.

    Si panteon propozoj:
    > Eterit e Kombit: Vellezerit Frasheri & Co
    > Simbolin e Kombit: Good ol' Gjergj Kastrioti "Princeps Epirotarum" "Athelta Christi"
    >Kreshniket: Muj, Halil
    >Zanat, Shtojzavallet
    > DJALLI: eeeemm kete le ta shpikim vete ne baze te nevojave te dites per armiq.

    Tempujt: Muzeu i Krujes, Muzeu Kombetar,
    Altaret e sakrificave: Bustet e vellezerve Frasheri te Liqeni, Shpella e Dragobise, Bjeshket e Nemura

    Si theologji:
    >me kete s'kam kohe te merrem keshtu qe po e le te hapur per ju te tjeret

  2. #22
    Ikon-thyes Maska e Qafir Arnaut
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    27-07-2002
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    Hajt tani mos flasim kot. Nje studim i Institutit Shqiptar i Studime Nderkomtare thote mbi perceptimet e Shqipove

    Executive Summary

    Albanian Institute for International Studies (AIIS) conducted a survey with Public Administration, Media, Local NGOs and Business groups in Tirana. The aim of the survey was to assess perceptions of and knowledge on European Union and EU integration for Albania. These groups were chosen because they are both immediately responsible for and directly affected by the integration process.

    The most obvious finding of the survey was the overwhelming support for Albania’s membership into EU in all the above-mentioned categories. The support levels were very close to 100 % with almost all respondents answering that they would vote for Albania’s membership into EU in a referendum on this issue. The figures speak for themselves; 96.43% in the Media Category, 96.91 % in Businesses and 99.38 % and 100 % in Public Administration and Local NGOs respectively. The high level of support for Albania’s EU membership was also reflected in the fact that respondents in all categories thought that strengthening relations with EU should be the most important priority of the Albanian Government.

    Such exceptionally high level of support for EU membership is very encouraging and should be exploited accordingly while it lasts. However the very magnitude of this support level raises important doubts on the understanding of the integration process as a whole. It begs the question: Does such support result from ignorance on or knowledge of the benefits and drawbacks of integration process as a whole? Our findings suggest the exceedingly high levels of support are combined with some disturbing misunderstandings of the efforts required to integrate Albania into EU. Misunderstanding with regard to integration benefits might be another source of the overwhelming support for Albania’s membership into EU.

    Thus, a considerable number of respondents seem to think that EU should admit Albania even before she is ready to become a member of the EU. The answers among the categories varied considerably. In two of them, Public Administration and Local NGOs, the majority of respondents, 52% and 47.06% respectively, answered that European Union should admit Albania even before the country is prepared to become a EU member. In the business category the responses were more evenly distributed since 46.84% answered “Yes” and 50.63% answered “No”. Media was the only category where a substantial majority of 73.47% answered “No” to the question.

    The fact that most respondents in Public Administration thought that EU should admit Albania even before she is prepared to become a EU member reflects a major misconception on this process. Integration seems to be perceived as a decision to be taken in Brussels rather than an ongoing effort on the Albanian side raise, its economic, political and social standards. Such attitude was most pronounced in the Public Administration category since respondents thought that EU stand towards Albania is more important than the Albanian economy, and almost as important as Albanian Politics for our country’s integration into EU. Although this was not the case in the other three categories even their respondents marked EU stand towards Albania as a very important factor in Albania’s road towards EU, almost as important as the economy and politics.

    The above attitudes seem to indicate that among certain groups, most remarkably in Public Administration, integration has become an end in itself. The attempts of Albania to conduct reforms and join EU are meant to produce economic development, democratization and not simply EU membership. Such outcomes cannot and should not be less desirable than EU membership. Thus, integration has to be understood as a means towards democratization and economic development and not vice versa, otherwise integration will not be sought at home but only abroad.

    Another important finding that reflects the narrow understanding of the integration process and its benefits was the fact that most respondents marked free movement into other EU countries as the most important benefit from EU membership. In Public Administration, Media and Local NGO categories free movement received the highest score, and was valued more than economic development, strengthening the rule of law, democratization and well being in general. The misunderstanding here seems to be twofold. First of all free movement is understood simply as the possibility to travel without visas, rather than in its broader sense as free movement of capital and businesses. Secondly, and partly as a consequence of the first misunderstanding, there seems to be little awareness that free movement will be only a corollary of EU membership and it will be of little use without economic development, democratization and well being in general. Yet more than achieving these goals people seem interested to leave the country and integration into EU seems to be perceived as a means to this end, which is especially discouraging among Public Administration respondents.

    Related to the narrow understanding of EU integration and integration benefits were also some serious misconceptions regarding the timeframe of the integration process. The first major misperception concerned the speed of the integration process. Most respondents thought Albania would join EU somewhere between 5 to 10 years while at the same time the majority of respondents thought that the integration process was moving slowly. Business and Public Administration were the two most optimistic categories. They had the largest percentages of respondents who thought that Albania will join EU in 5 or 10 years, and the lowest percentages that marked 15 or more than 15 years as the time period in which Albania will join EU. The two categories that were less optimistic in this regard were Media and Local NGOs. Of the two Media had the largest percentage of those who thought Albania would join EU in 15 or more than 15 years, i.e. it was the least optimistic

    While it is impossible to accurately quantify in terms of years Albania's integration into EU, especially since after all integration is a process and not a fixed date, it is safe to say that if Albania joins EU in 5 or 10 years, the integration process has been quite fast by any standards. The Stabilization – Association process alone lasts 10 years, while Albania has not yet signed the SAA Agreement with EU. Here it must be emphasised that the contradictory responses were indicative not only of a lack of information on the integration process but also of the desire of respondents for Albania to join EU as soon as possible. Such desire was reflected both in the high support levels for EU membership and in the importance that respondents attached to strengthening relations with EU.

    It is difficult to find the source of such a high level of optimism regarding Albania’s EU integration process, besides lack of information and/or political propaganda on the process. No matter what the source of respondent’s optimism it is important to note that there was a correlation between such optimism and the way in which respondents perceived EU and Albania’s benefits from EU membership. The more optimistic they were on speed of the integration process the more positively they perceived EU and Albania’s benefits from EU membership. Therefore once the membership timetable for Albania becomes clear it is very probable that perceptions on EU might deteriorate and expectations of membership benefits drop.

    In the near future as respondents familiarize themselves with the intricacies of the process it will seem to them that the more Albania moves towards EU the further away EU moves from Albania which might give rise to frustration and resignation. This will become even more obvious after the first wave of EU enlargement, which will leave Albania out while presenting new challenges for its integration process. Any feelings of frustration with the process might give rise to resignation and apathy that will be particularly dangerous in categories such as the Public Administration one, which is directly responsible for the integration process. Therefore it is important to raise awareness on the real efforts and time needed in order to haul Albania into EU. The sooner this is done the better since the greater the misperceptions of today the bigger the frustrations of tomorrow.

    It is important to emphasize that the above-mentioned misconceptions and misunderstandings are not simply the result of limited information but also the outcome of political manipulation of the integration process for propagandistic ends. Disinformation in order to gain political leverage is as dangerous as, if not more than, limited information. So as our findings indicate some of the above misperceptions were most pronounced in comparatively well-informed categories such as Public Administration. This category was relatively informed on EU institutions; in this aspect it came second only to Media. The level of familiarity respondents in this category had with regard to Stabilization – Association Agreement, on conditions to join EU as well as on EU and NATO integration came second only to that of the respondents in the Media category.

    Nevertheless, misconceptions and misunderstandings in the Public Administration category with regard to the integration process were more pronounced than in any of the other categories, and at times even more than in the Business category that was the least informed group. Thus, by far the largest percentage of respondents in Public Administration, 42 %, thought that Albania was prepared enough to become a EU member. It was in this category where a considerable percentage, 38 %, of respondents, thought that Albania would join EU in five years. This percentage was second only to that of the Business category, which along with Local NGOs was the least informed group. While it is impossible to accurately assess the degree to which responses have been conditioned by the position of respondents in this category, it is also safe to conclude that respondents in the Public Administration group are most exposed to, as well as part of, the political propaganda, which in turn might account for some of the major misconceptions they have developed.

    This is not to say that limited information does not breed misunderstandings. As the above example shows limited information on EU, its institutions and on membership requirements produces unrealistic expectations (in the Business category 52 % of respondents thought Albania would join EU in five years). Yet even in this case such highly unrealistic expectations can be blamed on political propaganda as much as on limited information. Thus, information on EU, its institution and on the integration process will not suffice without increased awareness on domestic efforts needed for integration to take place. This awareness should be raised away from narrow political ends, especially in groups such as the Business one that will be the first to bear integration costs. Unless domestic actors become aware of such efforts and assume their responsibilities accordingly integration will remain a cliché and a never-ending process, distant in time and lacking in benefits. Of course information and awareness campaigns should be an important element in this respect, which is why we identified the main sources of information on EU and EU integration.

    The main source of information for the respondents on EU and the EU integration process was Television. Here the Public Administration and Media were the exception since most respondents in the first category received information mostly from Internet, whereas respondents from the second category received most of their information from Newspapers.

    Among the categories there were high levels of interest for more information on EU. There were however differences from one category to the other, some were more interested to receive more information on EU and others less. Thus, the most interested category was the Media, which is to be expected. Yet even in this case, some 10.71 % of the interviewed journalists were not interested to receive more information on EU. Public Administration was the next category with highest percentage of respondents, 86.71 %, interested to receive more information on EU. Business and Local NGO respondents were least interested in this respect, although in both groups there is limited information on EU.

    Those interested to receive more information on EU were also asked in what areas they would like to receive more information. The area in which respondents were more interested in was EU enlargement. The score of EU Enlargement, 8.93 out of 10, is very indicative of the great interest respondents have on such a process. The interest of the respondents to learn more on EU Enlargement was also reflected across all four categories. In each of them EU Enlargement received the highest score, despite variations in the level of interest in other areas. This once more confirms the importance that the respondents attach to Albania’s EU membership









    RECOMMENDATIONS

    The results of the survey show that the public administration, media, NGOs, and business groups should be more informed on Albania's EU integration process. It is important that the information available be free of political propaganda that aims to use the integration process for narrow political motives. An awareness and information campaign should be launched towards this end. We recommend that the information campaign should be focused on the following:

    • The speed of the integration process depends on Albania and not on the EU. Therefore, the campaign ought to focus on the economic, political, judicial and other reforms that must be carried out by the government in order to prepare the country for integration in EU. It is important to emphasise that integration begins in Albania and ends in Brussels, and not vice versa.

    • Albania's benefits from this process must be clearly spelled out. The fact that the overwhelming majority of the interviewees declared that the greatest benefit will be free movement means that most people are interested in leaving the country. They see the integration process as a means towards this end rather than positive thing in itself.

    • A cost-benefit analysis on the positive and negative effects of the Association and Stabilisation Agreement for Albanian economy ought to be carried out. The results of this analysis ought to be made public.

    • The results of a cost-benefit analysis should be made known especially to the business group since this community will be the first to bear integration costs, especially regarding trade liberalization after the signing of the Stabilization and Association Agreement.

    • The timeline of the integration process must be made clearer. Although it is impossible to pinpoint the actual date in which Albania will gain EU membership, the length of the process may be estimated more realistically. For example, the process of stabilisation and association lasts about ten years, although this process may be lengthened or shortened in time depending on the speed with which reforms will be carried out. Thus, we can be sure that the integration process will not be complete within 5 to 10 years, as most interviewees think.

    • The integration process should be explained according to its phases; opening SAA negotiation to signing SAA, the stabilization and association process, i.e., the implementation phase of the SAA, the candidacy phase and finally full membership. General requirements and approximate timelines can be outlined in order to have a clearer understanding of the process.

    • Besides clarifying the timeline of the integration process it is also important to shed some light on the implications of EU enlargement for Albania especially for categories such as Public Administration. EU is not a static organism. Its enlargement will have immediate consequences on Albania’s membership.

    • More information is needed to update these 4 focus groups on the progress made in the process in which Albania finds itself. People must be clear on how much has been accomplished, and how much more remains to be done.

    • More information is needed on Albania's integration into NATO and its importance for Albania's EU integration process.


    The means that will be used to conduct such a campaign will depend on the target groups as well as on the issues that will be highlighted. Nevertheless some of the methods that can be used are as follows:

    • TV Programs and documentaries
    • Newsletters, Pamphlets and Brochures
    • Lectures, workshops, round tables and trainings.

    TV programs and documentaries can be used in order to address a larger audience. Pamphlets and brochures can be used in order to reach categories such as Business and Local NGOs and they can contain simplified information on EU and EU integration. Lectures, workshops, round tables and trainings on the other hand can address the needs of more specialized groups within the Public Administration and/or the Media.

    Nevertheless, an awareness campaign would not be sufficient in order to address all the shortcomings identified in the survey. As it has been already argued not all of the shortcomings are due to lack of information. A great deal is due to perceptions and expectation. Part of the misperceptions has been as a result of political manipulation of the integration process. Governments and political parties have often used the process in order to gain political leverage, thus at times raising expectations unrealistically, or at other times hindering the process itself. Therefore, political will is important not only to move this process forward but also to portray it realistically, away from propaganda considerations

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  4. #23
    Creator Spiritus Maska e Dito
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    Dicka mbi integrimin nga botkuptimi i nje Odeoni

    Se pari Albo te pergezoj per temat e goditura qe hap ne forum, Une do te thoja qe gjithe faji eshte komplet i yni. Mbaj mend vitet 91 kur na u premtua shume dhe ne nga etja e madhe kerkonim shume, si rrjedhoje me vjen keq te dashur lexues tju them skemi arritur asgje jemi zero ne kete moment, le te hedhim nje sy ne vendet qe filluan integrimin njekohesish me ne, psh LITUANIA, BULLGARIA, RUMANIA, KROACIA, SLLOVENIA, etj...... mundem tju pyes perse keto shtete jane ne europe e ne jo. Mendoj per shume faktore. Une do mundohem tju sjell disa prej shkaqeve. E para me vjen keq tju deklaroj realitetin e hidhur qe ne shqiperi nuk u ndertua shteti i se drejtes por shteti i horrave hajduterise dhe korrupsionit masiv, Le te marrim disa faktore banale ku nje dokument identifikimi si certefikata civile kushton nje vlere monetare nderkohe qe shtetet e lartepermendura e japin falas nje te tille. Akoma nuk egzistojne leternjoftimet aq te nevojshem per cdo shtetas, akoma nuk kemi statusin e jeteses minimal te shtetasve tane, akoma pronat nuk njohin nje pronar, etj.. KY ESHTE INTEKRIMI JO INTEGRIMI me vjen keq qe e pohoj po e verteta thuhet dhe nuk fshihet.

    POLITIKANET ehhhh me mire mos flas per kete fare te keqe qe ka mbire ketu dhe per pallavrat e tyre, politikanet shqiptare nuk njohin pikesepari nacionalizmin, nuk shohin me larg se xhepi i tyre. Emisioni Fiks_Fare ne top-chanell e tregon me se miri kete. Nejse ALBO fjala integrim egziston vetem ne protokollet zyrtare askund tjeter, dhe gabojme nese themi qe ne shqiperi ka integrim. Kaq ishte e gjitha nga Odeoni

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    Mos kompliko jeten tende nese nuk eshte e nevojshme

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  6. #24
    i/e regjistruar
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    Talking

    Citim Postuar më parë nga Albo
    E keni vene re se sa shume i lakojne politikanet shqiptare "integrimin ne Evrope". E keni vene re se sa pak flasin shqiptaret e thjeshte per integrimin ne Evrope? E keni vene re se sa shume vemendje u kushton media takimeve nderkombetare qe bejne fjale per integrimin? E keni degjuar fjalimet e bukura te burrave te shtetit shqiptare dhe politikaneve mbi "integrimin"?

    Por kush me mire se ata qindra mijra shqiptare qe jetojne ne Perendim mund te flasin me mire se kushdo per integrimin e Shqiperise ne Evrope?! Kush mund tu rrefeje shqiptareve qe jetojne ne trojet etnike te vertetat mbi integrimin, kur vete emigrantet e kane kaluar ate procesin e integrimit ne jeten e tyre ne mergim?!

    Ju ftoj qe te hidhni mendimet tuaja ne kete teme per integrimin e Shqiperise dhe shqiptareve ne familjen evropiane. Ju ftoj te flisni per ate integrim qe ju njihni e jetoni dhe jo per ate integrim falls qe propogandohet nga politika shqiptare dhe mediat ne Shqiperi.

    politikanet shqiptare tallen me popullin shqiptar e kane bere SHQIPERINE PRONE PRIVATE . dhe bejne ca ju do qejfi . po u hyre neper kembe te ... heqin qafe ,,, pa problem fare . pse te hyje shqiperia ne evrope qe mos vjedhin dot ???? me mire jashte evrope per nanon dhe berishen me shoke te vjedhin me kollaj , e te bejne si duan ata keta politikane qe kemi vetem politikane nuk jane . mua me duken me shume si derra mw fytyre njeriu

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    Ikon-thyes Maska e Qafir Arnaut
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    Citim Postuar më parë nga GabrielAngelo
    politikanet shqiptare tallen me popullin shqiptar
    Me mire te kishe thene: Populli shqiptar tallet me popullin shqiptar.
    Adresat e faqeve personale mund ti vendosesh ne profil por jo ne firme. Stafi i Forumit

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  10. #26
    i/e regjistruar Maska e amaro
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    nuk e di se sa me takon te flas per integrimin e token meme ne te bujshmen jurope, sepse kam nje pasaporte te huaj dhe nuk kam me lidhje me memedheun pervec ketij forumi por duke pasur parasysh qe 99.99% e atyre qe japin komente ose flasin per token meme qahen ,qahen dhe vetem qahen, me duket se ka ardhur koha revolucionit te armatosur kundra regjimit demokratik ne tirane.
    nje grup tip diversantesh te armatosur mire me ide te qarta per te sjelle jeten moderne ne shqiperi do te ishte ideale. ne jemi popull qe nuk marrim vesh me llafe ju lutem merreni seriozisht. albo ti qe je nder me te urtet per gojeri dhe mendime mund te besh organizimin.
    P.S. MOS HARRONİ QE NE KOHEN QE NE EUROPE HAPESHİN UNİVERSİTETET E PARA NE İSHİM TE ZENE DUKE BERE KRYENGRİTJE KUNDRA TURQVE.
    Money Makes Man act Funny

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  12. #27
    !Welcome! Maska e StormAngel
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    Nano: BB do na mbështesë drejt integrimit në Europë

    - 26/07/2004 Banka Boterore eshte e angazhuar per te mbeshtetur Shqiperine drejt nje zhvillimi te qendrueshem dhe drejt integrimit ne Europe", këtë garanci ka marre sot kryeministri i Shqiperise Fatos Nano nga drejtori i grupit te BB Shengman Zhang, gjatë një takimi me delegacionin e Bankes Boterore. Palet vleresuan bashkepunimin mes tyre dhe shprehën angazhim per bashkëpunim të mëtejshëm. Kryeministri Nano theksoi se megjithë vlerësimet që BB ka bere për punën e qeverisë shqiptare, ka ende ka shume pune per të bere per realizimin e objektivave. Drejtori i pergjithshem i grupit te BB Zhang vleresoi mardheniet me qeverine shqiptare dhe kerkoi qe ato te forcohen akoma me shume. Ai theksoi se synimet kryesore per vendin tone duhet të mbeten lufta kunder korrupsionit, ulja e nivelit te varferise, permiresimi i infrastruktures, etj. Zhang shprehu besimin se Shqiperia do te vazhdoje progresin e shkelqyer të arritur deri tani. Per drejtorin e pergjithshem te grupit te Bankes Boterore Zhang kjo ishte vizita e pare ne Shqipëri
    We didn't land on Plymouth Rock, Plymouth Rock landed on us.

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  14. #28
    boyalbania Maska e indrit
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    30-05-2002
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    bashkimi europian? me mire bashkimi me kosoven?

    Ej ciao.
    shqiperia si ashtu dhe ne qytetaret shqipetare deshirojme qe te asoziohemi me komunitetin europian, shpresoj qe kjo gje te te behet sa me shpejte, per shume arsye: si politika shqiptare qe do te kontrollohet nga ke, d.m.th proçka dhe pushte nuk do te behet me ne politiken shqiptare, arsyea e dyte rritja ekonomike, zhvillimi kultural, zhvillimi turistike e shum e shum te tjera. te dashur bashk atdhetar kjo gje nuk mund behet sapo hap e mbylle syte. duhet durime, deri sa shqiperia te te plotsoje kushtet minimale te kerkuara nga be.
    megjithate nuk i dihet mund te jete edhe shum afer.
    doja te dija une nje gje ç'fare dote mendonit nese shqiperia dhe kosova te bashkoheshin politikisht, dhe ne bashk jetese, si po ashtu edhe shqiptaret e maqedonise? a do te ishte shqiperia ndryshe?
    Une mendoj se para se te hyjme ne be duhet te kerkojme kosovarve te bashkohemi duke eliminuar kufijte. do te riteshim ekonomikisht kujturalisht dhe shume shume gjera akoma me pozitive qe mund te kishte. prandaj le ta kerkojme kete gje.
    Ju lutem!!! mos thirrni me BE per shqiperine me perpara te therrasim SHQIPERI e bashkuar


    ciaooo

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  16. #29
    Perjashtuar
    Anëtarësuar
    15-04-2003
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    Ne Kete Univers
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    147

    Pershendetje

    Si fillim dua te bej nje Sqarim un nuk i perkas asnje Partie politike.

    Per te folur,per integrimin Politik,Ekonomik,e Shqiperise ne EU,mendoj se duhet bere nje dallim,!Se pari nuk mund te flitet,per Saliun,Nanon dhe komplet klasen politike shqiptare,sepse ajo eshte komplete e semure.Pra e gjitha klasa jone politike vjen nga komunizmi,ose me mentalitet te theksuar komunist,dhe tjetra qe eshte dhe me kryesorja kemi nje klase ne PUSHTET .....Burgaxhinjsh,trafikantesh,killerash,ect....,p ra me thoni JU ku mund te shkojme me keta njerez te cilet,nuk kane asnje kompleks,emocional,kulturor,ekonomik..ect???
    Per mua,e them me bindjen 1000%,ne as nje vend nuk shkojme.
    Shqiptaret duhet te kuptojne nje gje?Qe komunizmi dhe njerezit e saj,ishte(ESHTE) nje bombe BIOLOGJIKE,10 here me e fuqishem se ajo e Hiroshimes,dhe fatekeqesisht ne Albania People,kemi ne Krye te Udheheqjes keta njerez te cilet ata dhe femijet e tyre,jane te Semure ose kane mbetje RADIOAKTIVE ne trurin e tyre,por zgjidhja eshte e sigurte vetem nga,NE Rinia qe jetojme ne DIASPORE ne bashkepunim me Rinine qe eshte ne Shqiperi,sepse te gjithe Bashke mund te sjellim EREN e ndryshimeve,e cila ka filluar ne te kundert................??????duhet te pranojme qe kemi per te vuajtur SHUME dhe me KEQ..!!!
    Me respekt per te gjithe anetaret e Forumit nga
    SYTE E TIGRIT.

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    boyalbania Maska e indrit
    Anëtarësuar
    30-05-2002
    Vendndodhja
    Itali Como
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    ke te shume shume te drejte..., sytetigri,
    ke konsensusin tim per sa i perket politikaneve tane duke folur si per te djathtet po ashtu edhe te majtet, qe nuk kemi me besim tek as njeri....
    Por ç'fare duhet te bejme? duhet te tregohemi menefregist ndaj politikes? ndaj atyre qe per fat te keq na hudhheqin? JO! me fal por kete nuk ta lejoj sepse une si po ashtu populli shqiptare ka te drejte te zjedhi nje forze politike me te cilen me raprezenton, kjo d.th. Anarki!!!!
    prandaj them qe duhet te hyjme ne "UE" keq mire shpresojme qe te hyjme, dhe le te zihet nanoja me berishen dhe kushdo qe te jete. Me zi po prese qe shqiperia te presi udhezimet dhe diretivet komunitare. pastaj duha te shikoj klasat politike shqiptare, edhe nje gje tjeter pak e nga pak ne politiken "tone" kan hyre shume politikane te rinj, dhe ata te regjimit pak e mga pak po marin "udhen e zotit"
    ciaooooo

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