Dhuna që po ushtron Al Qaeda në Irak

[Shmeki]

Shmeki a Shefki (whatever!)...
Po te kishe IQ-ne e konsiderueshme edhe mund ta kisha lexuar shkrimin tend...
Por puna eshte se nuk e ke keshtu qe nuk me sjell asnje benefit po ta lexoj...Mbase ne nje jete tjeter edhe mund te replikojme bashke...Deri sa te vije ajo dite...
Ciao

e kam cek qe ne afishmin tim te parë për IQ-në,gëzohem qe ti posedon kapacitet te mjaftueshem ke diapazonin e trurit te gjerë... E le të shpesojm,se do vjen ajo ditë, pasi qe jam edhe nje jetë mbrapa atehere edhe do replikojm

Megjithse jam i dobët t'a thuri mendimin sa me me pak fjalë,atehere po te tregoj se kam bërë një analizë të pozitës tonë Kosovarve,dhe atyre ne Irak(te okupuarë nga nga paqruajtsit jemi qe te dy vendet), dhe kam ardhë në nje perfundim...se nuk ju besohet mediave perendimore......dhe gjithqka qe deklaron bushi,dhe evropianet...(shpresoj se e lexon tër afishimin tim me me lart),vetem INTERESI, dhe jo ne emer te demokracis dhe për demokraci...

Ps: t'a them sinqerishtë kur futen femrat ne Politikë dhe japin mendimet e tyre,me duket sikur tregojn per ngjarjet nga filxhani i kafës,mbase edhe e tër jeten e keni ne filxhan kaffe,dhe pista mode.... ketu rrumbullaksohet jeta e femres !
PPS: Po e vrej se jeni nje femer,shum matrialiste(egoiste) dhe formalishtë i shiqon gjerat vetem duke u bazuarë ne MTV,BBC,por jo ne realitet...kjo është dobësi e juaja G-flower

Me falni se dola nga tema

[Shkupjani]

Atehere meqe nuk kam kohe po them se ju jap perkrahje te plote mendimeve te bunnyt, ryderit, dhe FLashMx.
Brovo keni treguar me te vertete se jeni realiste.
Shkupjani.

[Mision]

Nese vertet duam tua leme kete bote brezave qe do vijne te qete,te begate dhe te bekuar nga vete ai qe e krijoji Zoti,atehere duhen zhdukur nga faqja e njerezimit gjithe balozet heretike te erresirres,prapambetjes.

atehere te ndihmofte zoti ,, Ati ,, apo ,, Bushi,,,dhe diqka ,,, nuk te mbyt litari as karika po as faji,,, te mbyt deshira per te bere faj

[green]

...Vetem blach blach kunder amerikes...si me pas qene pjellat e atij vulehumburit injorant qe na e ndriti shqiperine me librat e kuq dhe me parrullat rreth "imperializmit amerikan" nga njera ane dhe neve "trimave" te izoluar e te burgosur "qe hidhnim valle ne goje te ujkut" nga ana tjeter...hehe sa qesharake!!Na e ngjallet per se vdekuri...cfare beni mor amani...ne mire qe e mbuluam?!:P

Ju vellezer do ta donit Ameriken vetem nqse do kishte ardhur t'iua ndertonte ajo vendin...pse jo te niste ca kontigjente me amerikane qe ta ndertonin ate per ju... edhe ca avione qe te benin dy parada ne dite duke hedhur dollare mbi kokat tuaja s'do ishte ide e keqe...juve vetem te rrinit neper kafenera duke pire kafe turke..lol(se ngaqe po permendet kaq shume duket qe iu shijon se tepermi:P...)edhe duke folur per politike, edhe duke i thene amerikaneve ate kanalin e hapet po nuk ishte edhe aq i thelle...se gjithmone ne do ti veme cdo gjeje nje bisht apo jo...?!Neve llafezanet, mosmirenjohes qe sic ka thene Konica ..."e keqja do na vije gjithmone nga vetja"...


Ahh...dhe nje arsye tjeter qe iu preket sedra shume eshte kur iu shahen ferexhete dhe citjanet...ahh, ato i keni pike te dobet...s'keni faj ato jane garderroba e shoqerive te prapambetura anadollake qe zjejne ne kurveri nen kete kamuflazh kaq te rehatshem...

greenflower

[Ryder]

garderroba e shoqerive te prapambetura anadollake qe zjejne ne kurveri nen kete kamuflazh kaq te rehatshem...

Qeka kthy ne epidemi mbare-forumore kjo menyra e te shkruarit me superlativa poetike mi yllo pse sthu ti, i paska kalu caqet e vec nje personi qe e ka trademark...shif tani me zuri edhe mu...psh se kisha ndermend te shkruaja per karakterin narcisist te kurorezuar nga aureola egocentrike e frymezuar nga thatesira shkretinore e kultures po aq shkretinore te redneck-eve qe shtyn impulse sadiste ne vakuumin kumbues qe mbreteron ne kraniumin solitar te Bushit....apo me mire te them qe Bushi esht pall k'ari se me del me kollaj?
Se e njejta gje esht...te dyja jane ofendime, dhe te dyja jane spekulime pa asnje lloj fakti pavaresisht se ca gjuhe perdoret ne ta.

Shkupjani me gjith respektin qe kam per ty si hera e pare qe te shof ne forum, skam nevoje per avokat grupo...jo per gje po del puna si lufte guerrilase masnej ke parasysh, fillojne percarjet lol...megjithse kur te kesh kohe me paraqit pikpamjet e tua do jem i pari ti shof.
Hajt Tung!

[leci]

Ryder me mbeshtetesine e mendimeve nga masa anetaresore do te kandidohesh per presidente me duket
Dhe perdor menyren e pare per te karakterizuar Bush,sepse duke qene pak e nderlikuar,personat me IQ ( e kopjuar kjo) jashtezakonisht te kufizuar e marrin si asnjanesi indirekte.

Sa e veshtire te mbash veten kur sheh nje person qe i hiqet e drejta e jetes,me nje menyre mizore.
Apo kur sheh nje te burgosur te lidhur si qen..
Sot nje koke tjeter u pre,thua se sulltanet e bejleret kane ardhur te kerkojne te drejtat e autorit per rrolin e tyre ne kete art.
Dhe me kokat e prera ndjenjat shumengjyreshe forumore,marrin vrull si dallget e oqeanit ne nje dite dimri.
Por ndoshta ketu qendron madheshtia e qenies njerezore,me lehtesine qe kemi per te shikuar perpara edhe pse po shkruajme me gjak kete fraksion jete.
Ja kjo menyra superlative-poetike e te shkruarit me njollosi edhe mua,keshtu qe terhiqem sa jam akoma ne kohe,per porte me te qeta ku dallget nuk guxojne te peshperijne.
Meditim te mbare njerez.

[Toro]

CULTURE OF HATE

By AMIR TAHERI
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June 22, 2004 -- HOURS after Paul Johnson's decapitated body was shown Friday in Riyadh, Saudi Interior Minister Prince Nayef bin Abdul-Aziz announced that government forces had killed the man responsible for the murder, Abdul-Aziz al-Mouqrin, and two of his accomplices.
"This crime was committed by a handful of deviants," the prince said.

A few deviants? Hardly.

The tragedy that struck Johnson is the product of a culture of hatred, arrogance and cruelty built over decades by the Saudi society.

To be sure, this does not mean that all Saudis think or would, if given the opportunity, behave as the killers did. But there is no escaping the fact that they do bear part of the responsibility, if only by providing the socio-cultural topos in which terrorism thrives.

Until recently, Saudi textbooks taught schoolchildren to regard non-Muslims as sub-humans who did not deserve the same respect due to "true believers," that is to say the followers of the officially approved Hanbali brand of Islam.

For decades, Saudi society has been obsessed with what could only be described as religious exhibitionism.



The nouveaux riches have tried to secure a place in the next world by building mosques, some 4,000 in Riyadh alone, and by contributing to so-called "Islamic causes."

What can only be described as a "religion industry" employs more muftis, preachers, teachers, enforcers, muezzins and theologians than the oil industry that produces 80 percent of the nation's income. Saudi universities churn out more "religious scholars" each year than doctors and engineers.

The state has spent an estimated $100 billion on "Islamic" causes since the mid '70s. No doubt part of the money went to humanitarian causes and the financing of development projects in the poorer Muslim countries. But there is also no doubt that vast sums of money were funneled to radical organizations that believe they have a mission to conquer the world for Islam through terrorism and war.

Today, the Saudi authorities insist that no more government money is going to terrorist groups. This may be true. After all, the Saudi rulers now realize that the ultimate aim of the monster they helped create is to devour them. But what about wealthy Saudi individuals who, either to buy personal protection or because they wish the ruling family to be overthrown, continue to fund the terrorists?

The problem goes beyond textbooks and ready money for terror. The average Saudi citizen is subjected to systematic Islamist brainwashing.

Let us just cite one example, immediately relevant to Johnson's murder.

The group that beheaded Johnson calls itself "The Fallujah Brigade," named after the Iraqi city which was the scene of a brief insurgency a few weeks ago.

The Arab media, especially the satellite TV channels, presented the Fallujah insurgency as "one of the greatest battles the Arabs have ever waged against the Crusaders," as an editorial in the daily Al-Arab claimed.

The fact that the Arabs had hardly played a role in the historic Crusades (which were largely fought by Turks, Kurds and the Mamelukes) did not prevent the propagandists from exaggerating the "Epic of Fallujah" far beyond an understandable degree of hype.

Dominated by pan-Arabists and Islamists, the Arab media claimed that the United States had deployed "all its military might" to conquer Fallujah and had failed. The "heroes of Fallujah" fought like lions and, supported by non-combatants, including women and children (who died in thousands), succeeded in winning "a spectacular victory," thus "saving Arab honor."

More than a dozen Arab poets have already committed odes and sonnets to commemorate Fallujah as "the Arab Stalingrad." One Syrian composer is working on an opera about "the heroes of Fallujah," while a couple of Egyptian hacks are breaking their typewriters to produce scripts for a film and a TV series on this latest of imaginary Arab victories.

The phrase "the Fallujah butchery" has been hammered into the Arab consciousness to justify an almost pathological hatred of the United States as a power responsible for "many thousands of civilian deaths."

The beheading of Paul Johnson, therefore, is presented as an act of revenge for deaths that, in fact, never happened.

What is interesting is that the satellite channels that peddled those lies are all owned by Arab governments (including the Saudi one) or individuals related to the ruling families.

The average Arab, including the average Saudi, was never allowed to know what actually happened in Fallujah. The few who tried to offer an accurate account were relieved of their positions or denied a chance to offer their take.

One account that never found an echo in the Arab satellite TV was provided by the Red Crescent (the equivalent of the Red Cross) of the United Arab Emirates whose representatives were present in Fallujah (where the group has a hospital) throughout the insurgency.

Here is part of the UAE Red Crescent's version as related by Muhammad Salim al-Harthi from Abu Dhabi:

"The Arab media have wildly exaggerated what happened at Fallujah. The fighting concerned only a few districts [of the town]. There never was any fighting on a big scale. There certainly was no clash involving thousands of the town's inhabitants. The number of those who died did not exceed 270, almost all fighters, not civilians. The resistance (i.e. the insurgency) was made up of former [Iraqi army] officers with a small number of [non-Iraq] Arabs representing Salafist [i.e. radical Islamist] groups."

Why would the Arab states allow their media to build a deadly myth to foment hatred and incite violence? They hope that by diverting hatred from themselves to the United States, they might escape being targeted by the terrorists.

That, of course, is a forlorn hope. Those who beheaded Johnson would, when the time comes, also behead the Arab ruling elites, including those who've turned the Arab media into a myth-making machine.

Paul Johnson was killed by lies spread by Arab elites. He was killed by those who wrote those textbooks and those who taught them for decades.

He was killed by the sheiks who finance Arab television, and by the anchormen and women who, with tones of false emotion in their voices, told all those lies about Fallujah — just as they have been telling lies about other conflicts involving the Arabs for decades.

He was killed by the over 1,500 Arab lawyers who have volunteered to defend Saddam Hussein but were nowhere to be seen when he was engaged in genocide against the Iraqi people.

Johnson was killed by the wealthy Arabs who continue to finance the terror organizations.

To say that killing Johnson was wrong would mean accepting that he, though not a Muslim, was a full human being with an equal right to live. And that is the huge historic, indeed doctrinal, leap that Islam must take before it can contain and defeat the terrorists who are trying to change it beyond recognition.

The U.S. ambassador in Riyadh, James Oberwetter, has called on the Saudi government to "bring Paul Johnson's murderers to account." The ambassador may not know it, but his demand involves a whole culture and millions of its human products, who must be brought to account if they are to be ultimately rescued from the inferno of lies, hatred and terror that is wrecking their lives as well.


E-mail: Amirtaheri@benadorassociates.com

[forum126]

Shmekiii...
Lexo me kujdes shkrimin tim se te gjitha pergjgjet i ke brenda...
Ti je plotesisht i verbuar nga velloja fetare por mos harro po te qe nevoja edhe koken tende ne te njejten menyre mund te ta japin ne tepsi...mos u merakos fare!!! Ai "zoteriu" ushqehesh ashtu si ti dhe une...ishte inxhinier avionesh...ku e sheh te keqen ti ketu??
Replika jote eshte shume qesharake...thjesht e mbushur me urrejtje dhe deshire per gjak...!! Sa turp!!
Iua kane thene shume bukur parafolesit ...te gjithe juve qe hidhen e perdridheni kunder amerikes dhe iu digjet kurrizi aq shume per irakun dhe arabet...qe as qe deshen t'ia dinin fare kur kosova po digjesh nga serbi...amerika iu doli krahe o njerez te verbuar nga injoranca...gjithe bota muslimane iu kthehu kurrizin ashtu sic beri dhe me bosnjen qe u pervelua e gjalle nga flaket e serbit...!!!
Te pelqen ty apo jo Shmeki...ky eshte mendimi im...hidhu perpjete po deshe...
greenflower

Kujdes kur flet per luften ne Kosove.
Kosova u be sikur u be sepse ishin shqiptaret bloze. As mos guxo te thuash qe i shpetoi Amerika
Ku ishte amerika me heret?
A e di ti se ke kerkon Sllobodani per deshmitare ne Hage?
A e di ti se ata deshmitare as Haga nuk ka fuqi kurre ti marre ne pyejtje?

Po shqiptaret e Maqedonise kush i ndihmoi? Vete, sepse ishin burra dhe u bashkuan. Kur shqiptaret e maqedonise shkuan per ti ndihmuar kosovareve kosovaret kur shikonin hijen serbe edhe pushket i linin aty ku ishin dhe ja mbathnin.

Ashtu sic i vuri Bosnja serbet perpara ashtu mund ti vinim edhe ne por ama nuk na e mbajti, dhe ajo shpetimtarja jone qe thua ti rrinte e shikonte. Pastaj kur mbaroi lufta diti edhe te thote se do te gjejme kaq e aq varre te perbashketa ne Kosove si dhe ne Bosnje.

Lajmet mos i merr nga kosovaret qe bejne pushimet ne durres e ne vlore kur atje behet lufte. Pyet ata qe kane pare lufte me sy.

Nje luftetar tregon se kur e kane kapur serbet aty ne kampin serb ka patur edhe amerikane, dhe serbet thonin duke e trembur me arme: "Ja ku e ke Amerikanin, por ai nuk te ndihmon dot. E ata amerikanet aty kane qene gjithmone."

Sa per Bosnjen ishin Muslimanet me ne krye Alija Izetbegovic qe i vune perpara serbet. Dhe kur filluan qe me te vertete te fitonin dhe kur serbet u zune ngushte atehere u hodh Amerika dhe tha:"Jo, duhet paqe! Tani keshtu nuk shkohet"

A e di ti se amerika ka bere mbledhje me dyer te mbyllura me serbet para se te filloje lufta ne Serbi?

Kujdes nga i merr lajmet.
Nuk dua te flas me shume po ama ka shume per te folur vetem per Kosoven.
Pyet njehere: "C'fare ka goditur amerika ne Kosove?"

[R2T]

Kujdes kur flet per luften ne Kosove.
Kosova u be sikur u be sepse ishin shqiptaret bloze. As mos guxo te thuash qe i shpetoi Amerika
Ku ishte amerika me heret?
A e di ti se ke kerkon Sllobodani per deshmitare ne Hage?
A e di ti se ata deshmitare as Haga nuk ka fuqi kurre ti marre ne pyejtje?

Po shqiptaret e Maqedonise kush i ndihmoi? Vete, sepse ishin burra dhe u bashkuan. Kur shqiptaret e maqedonise shkuan per ti ndihmuar kosovareve kosovaret kur shikonin hijen serbe edhe pushket i linin aty ku ishin dhe ja mbathnin.

Ashtu sic i vuri Bosnja serbet perpara ashtu mund ti vinim edhe ne por ama nuk na e mbajti, dhe ajo shpetimtarja jone qe thua ti rrinte e shikonte. Pastaj kur mbaroi lufta diti edhe te thote se do te gjejme kaq e aq varre te perbashketa ne Kosove si dhe ne Bosnje.

Lajmet mos i merr nga kosovaret qe bejne pushimet ne durres e ne vlore kur atje behet lufte. Pyet ata qe kane pare lufte me sy.

Nje luftetar tregon se kur e kane kapur serbet aty ne kampin serb ka patur edhe amerikane, dhe serbet thonin duke e trembur me arme: "Ja ku e ke Amerikanin, por ai nuk te ndihmon dot. E ata amerikanet aty kane qene gjithmone."

Sa per Bosnjen ishin Muslimanet me ne krye Alija Izetbegovic qe i vune perpara serbet. Dhe kur filluan qe me te vertete te fitonin dhe kur serbet u zune ngushte atehere u hodh Amerika dhe tha:"Jo, duhet paqe! Tani keshtu nuk shkohet"

A e di ti se amerika ka bere mbledhje me dyer te mbyllura me serbet para se te filloje lufta ne Serbi?

Kujdes nga i merr lajmet.
Nuk dua te flas me shume po ama ka shume per te folur vetem per Kosoven.
Pyet njehere: "C'fare ka goditur amerika ne Kosove?"

More derdimen, flet apo pjerdh ne forum? Si mor, i heq vize Amerikes per c'ka beri ne Kosove. S'keni faj, dhe dhi e zgjebosur dhe bishtin perpjete. Me se do e luftoje Mig-29 e T-72 e Serbit, ti more misherim i merenjohjes, me kallashnikov apo me cifte dygrykeshe. Keni te drejte te llapa-qenosni tani qe ka marre fund lufta, harroni se kush ju nxorri nga llagemi, se po mos ishte per Ameriken do fliste gjithe Kosova Serbisht. E Bosnja i rruajti sqetullat Serbit, se nuk i la femer pa perdhunuar, e burre pa i shqyer verlacken, e kur i mbylli ne nje meter katror vend gjithe Boshnjaket, u desh te vinte prape Amerika e ti kapte nga leckat ti nxirrte perjashta.

E c'lidhje ka ke kerkon Sllobodani apo mamaja e Sllobodanit ne Hage, u mbyturi shoke do. Me flet dhe gjithe vrer, pale. Po ti mo rrob mosmirnjohes, paraqitesh sikur na je dhe ne Amerike. Ca halene do pastaj qe rri ne nje vend qe nuk te pelqeka, mblidh ato leckat ku i ke dhe fishkellehu andej nga Iraku a Afganistani, se mos te trajtojne me mire. Se te thuash ate qe eshte, ata i kane qene prane Kosoves gjate gjithe kohes, e do te te trajtojne si te tyrin.

[forum126]

Sa per ata qe kane vrare ate amerikanin, nuk dua te flas pa ditur asgje,

se pari duhet te dime se c'fare ka bere ai atje. Pse e kane vrare?

Por ama nje musliman nuk vret njeri ashtu, nje person i tille nuk eshte musliman.

Por desha tju kujtoj dy gjera.
Me kete shpresoj se secili do te mendoje me me maturi.

1. Shqipteret i paten prere koken me tel nje polici maqedonas. ME TEL. Sepse pati vrare nje shqiptar dhe ne sy te te birit e terhiqte zvarre. Pra edhe ne dime te presim koka. Kete mos e harroni.

Kjo thjesht per tju kujtuar dhe vendoseni veten sikur tju kene vrare babain perpara syve.

Apo mos na ka ngele trimeria ne shqiptareve vetem per kafene e bilardo:"Ai nuk e di se une i bej kete e i bej ate, ai nuk me njef mua. Une jam ky e ai" Edhe shume trima te kesaj kategorie edhe kane vrare sepse kallashi eshte shume i lire ne Shqiperi. Nderkohe qe ai shoku qe po luanin nuk i pati vrare njeri.

Pra trima te cilit lloji jeni?, apo do te ngelet vetem ne kenge trimeria e shqiptarit qe ne kater vitet e fundit vetem kemi ditur tja mbathim.

2. Duhet ta dini se Amerika ishte futur ne Somali dhe vete doli sepse populli tregoi rezistence. Midis shume e shume krimesh, te cilat nqs ka njeri interes mund ti rendisim ketu, bene edhe kete

NJE GRUP USHTARESH PASI PERDHUNUAN NJE VAJZE 18 VJECARE, JA HAPEN KEMBET DHE E GODITEN ME BAZUKA (PREDHE) MIDIS KEMBEVE.

Si ndiheni tani?

Edhe ne Durres njeri ja numeroi nje amerikani, te cilet nuk kishin ardhur per pushtim. Vetem se nuk vdiq se kishim kirurge te mire. Perndryshe do te kishim edhe ne nje amerikan si njolle te zeze.