SHBA, do legalizojë emigrantët

[mario_kingu]

ne chicago sot nje manifestim i madh eshte ne vashdim nje nga me te medhenjt ne histori

me vin keq per te tere se gjyna sidomos per shqiptaret nja e ca skan par prindrit e tyre vite tani ishalla i marin te tere
me sa kam degjuar per mir flitet per me shum ju jap lajme ne dark

JA DHE NJE LAJM I SHKRUAJTUR NE ENGLISH TEK GOV
LOS ANGELES - Hundreds of thousands of mostly Hispanic immigrants skipped work and took to the streets Monday, flexing their newfound political muscle in a nationwide boycott that, while far from unified, still succeeded in slowing or shutting many farms, factories, markets and restaurants. From Los Angeles to Chicago, New Orleans to Houston, the "Day Without Immigrants" attracted widespread participation despite divisions among activists over whether a boycott would send the right message to Washington lawmakers considering sweeping immigration reform.

[Qafir Arnaut]

Lufta ne Irak dhe me terorizmin i pengon shume imigrantet sepse shume gjera po ndodhin ne te njejten kohe: Iraku, terorizmi, ekonomia, imigracioni...

!

Perkundrazi, lufta ne Irak po i ndihmon emigrantet pasi mund te rregullojne letrat me ane te sherbimit ushtarak. Rreth 50% e atyre ushtareve qe sherbejne ne Irak jane jo-qytetare. Pra le te rrembejne armen ...

[mario_kingu]

Perkundrazi, lufta ne Irak po i ndihmon emigrantet pasi mund te rregullojne letrat me ane te sherbimit ushtarak. Rreth 50% e atyre ushtareve qe sherbejne ne Irak jane jo-qytetare. Pra le te rrembejne armen ...

ktu e ke gabim nga nje ane
se per ne luft vete kush te doj edhe ne do per irak e kam fjalen

shumica qe jan aty kan vajt se pa filluar lufta ishin regjistraur ne army per te ber shkollen e cila ja pagonte army edhe u regjistruan shnet

per te rejat e merigac me von ju jap te reja

[Lioness]

Niku-nyc, Amerikes nuk i intereson te legalizoje emigrantet (po flas sidomos per latinet qe perbejne force kryesore pune.) Sic e dime nga ekonomia, krahu i punes eshte elementi me i shtrenjte ne ekuacionin e rritjes ekononimike. Eshte fale krahut te lire te punes, qe US gezon kete mireqenie ekonomike ne nje shoqeri ku konsumimi ne mase eshte motori kryesor i ekonomise. Ky konsumim behet i mundur nga cmimet e lira, dhe cmimet e lira jane pikerisht rrjedhoje e krahut ilegal te punes.
Sot LA eshte ne "stand-still" dyqanet nuk jane hapur, tregjet nuk punojne, dhe me shume eshte goditur agrikultura. Ka pase rritje cmimesh ne sektorin e perimeve dhe frutave si rrjedhoje e ngritjes se cmimeve te naftes (transportit) por nje bojkotim 1 javor do lendonte jashte mase ekonomine amerikane. Per me teper nuk eshte vetem sektori i agrikultures, ai i ndertimit gjithashtu do vuante jashte mase. Cmimet e shtepive do ngrihen akoma dhe me shume jo vetem nga bojkotimi, por nqs ndodh nje zevendesim i krahut te punes me punetore amerikane, qe do kushtonte me shume, dhe per me teper nuk jane dhe aq eficent sa emigrantet ilegale (per shkak te ligjeve te sindikatave etj.)
Emigrantet ilegale ne US i kushtojne ekonomise 50 miliarde dollare (midis shkollave, shendetit etj) por kontribojne te pakten 200 miliarde dollare ne vit.

E vetmja menyre per amerikanet t'i kunderpergjigjen kesaj proteste sot, eshte te mos blejne ne mase, dhe te mos konsumojne, gje qe eshte e pamundur ne nje te ardhme te aferme. Sic thashe me siper, konsumimi ne mase eshte mentalitet amerikan, eshte menyre jetese, eshte motor ekonomie.

Me ne fund do shtoja, ceshtja e imigracionit eshte thjesht nje ceshtje temporale deri ne zgjedhjet e Nentorit. Republikanet, duke e pare veten keq si rrjedhoje e shume problemeve ne administraten e Bushit, zgjodhen kete ceshtje per t'i marre mendjen elektoralit te tyre. Ne 2004, nuk degjonim gje tjeter vecse legalizimin e marteses se homoseksualeve, pas zgjedhjeve, nuk ekzistonte me si ceshtje.
Eshte nje zakon (i keq do shtoja) i kongresmaneve qe te kapen cdo sezon zgjedhjesh me nje ceshtje te vetme, dhe qe ne pergjithesi nuk eshte vitale per vendin. Pas nentorit, nuk do diskutohet me.

PS: Degjova ne radio qe disa prej emigranteve te arrestuar u eshte dhene alternativa per te sherbyer ne ushtri per te mare dokumentat, ndryshe bejne burg dhe deportohen.

[Qafir Arnaut]

E vetmja menyre per amerikanet t'i kunderpergjigjen kesaj proteste sot, eshte te mos blejne ne mase, dhe te mos konsumojne, gje qe eshte e pamundur ne nje te ardhme te aferme. Sic thashe me siper, konsumimi ne mase eshte mentalitet amerikan, eshte menyre jetese, eshte motor ekonomie.

Amerikanet jane dele kooperative. Kjo qe thua ti eshte pasoje e korporates trans-nacionale. Do vije shpejt dita kur qytetari i trashe Amerikan do konsumoje veten, e do te shkoje ne histori si Perandoria me jeteshkurter e drite shkurter. Nga ana tjeter, lajmi i mire eshte qe parashikimet e Gene Roddenberry do te vijne ne realitet...por vetem pas holokaustit nuklear.

degjova ne radio qe disa prej emigranteve te arrestuar u eshte dhene alternativa per te sherbyer ne ushtri per te mare dokumentat, ndryshe bejne burg dhe deportohen.

Mish per top...nice!

[mario_kingu]

WASHINGTON - President Bush said Monday night he would order as many as 6,000 National Guard troops to secure the U.S. border with Mexico and urged Congress to give millions of illegal immigrants a chance at citizenship, as he tried to build support for a major overhaul of the nation's tattered immigration laws.

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"We do not yet have full control of the border and I am determined to change that," the president said in pressing for his $1.9 billion plan in a 17-minute prime-time address from the Oval Office.

Bush gave strong support to a plan that would give many of the 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States an eventual path to possible citizenship — a move derided by some conservatives in his own Republican Party as amnesty. He rejected that term.

"It is neither wise nor realistic to round up millions of people, many with deep roots in the United States and send them across the border," he said. "There is a rational middle ground between granting an automatic path to citizenship for every illegal immigrant and a program of mass deportation."

The Guard troops would mostly serve two-week stints before rotating out of the assignment, so keeping the force level at 6,000 over the course of a year could require up to 156,000 troops.

Still, Bush insisted, "The United States is not going to militarize the southern border."

The White House wouldn't say how much the deployments would cost, but said the troops would paid for as part of $1.9 billion being requested from Congress to supplement border enforcement this year.

The president timed his speech hours after the Senate began intense debate on an immigration bill that has been getting increasing attention in a year when all House seats and one-third of Senate seats are up for election. The rare televised, prime-time Oval Office address signified the high stakes for Bush, who has been asking for an immigration overhaul since his the 2000 campaign.

House Majority Whip Roy Blunt, R-Mo., indicated Bush may have some trouble getting some conservatives on board with his overall plan.

"While I appreciate the president's willingness to tackle big problems, I have real concerns about moving forward with a guest worker program or a plan to address those currently in the United States illegally until we have adequately addressed our serious border security problems," Blunt said.

Bush said the National Guard troops would fill in temporarily while the nation's Border Patrol force is expanded. He asked Congress to add 6,000 more Border Patrol agents by the end of his presidency and to add 6,700 more beds so illegal immigrants can be detained while waiting for hearings to determine that they can be sent home.

For many years, the government has not had enough detention space to hold illegal immigrants, so they were released into society and most did not return for their court date. "This practice, called catch and release, is unacceptable and we will end it," Bush said

The Border Patrol would remain responsible for catching and detaining illegal immigrants, with National Guard troops providing intelligence gathering, surveillance and other administrative support. Yet the National Guard troops would still be armed and authorized to use force to protect themselves, said Bush homeland security adviser Fran Townsend.

They are to come from the four border states — California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas — but those states' governors may also seek Guard troops from other states. Reaction was mixed among the nation's governors.

California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said troops might provide short-term relief but he did not believe border protection was an appropriate role for the National Guard. California has thousands of Guard troops in Iraq and might need them in case of earthquakes, floods or other emergencies, he said.

"So if you have 6,000 in Iraq and send another 6,000 to the border, what do we have left?" Schwarzenegger asked.

But another Republican border state governor, Rick Perry of Texas, said he was glad the administration had decided the Guard had a role to play along the border. "We have the ability to multitask," Perry said.

The White House hopes deployments to the border will begin in early June.

Many congressional Republicans said they supported Bush's plan to use National Guard troops at the border. But he ran into criticism from Democrats and some other Republicans.

"Democrats are willing to support any reasonable plan that will secure our borders, including deploying National Guard troops," said Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill. "But Americans don't want a plan that's been cobbled together to win political favor. This cannot turn into another long-term military deployment with no clear plan."

Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid said Bush "got off to a good start tonight, but now he must stand up to right-wing members of his own party who are working to block Senate action." He called on Bush to "denounce the misguided approach of House Republicans" who won passage of a a tough immigration bill that would erect fences along the Mexican border and treat people who sneak across as felons to be deported.

Bush said the nation has more than doubled the size of the Border Patrol during his presidency and has sent home about 6 million people entering the United States illegally. Still, he said, that has not been enough.

"For decades, the United States has not been in complete control of its borders," the president said. "As a result, many who want to work in our economy have been able to sneak across our border, and millions have stayed."

He called for enactment of a guest worker program to allow immigrants to take low-paying jobs, and he said employers must be held to account for hiring illegal immigrants. He said that a tamperproof identification card for workers would "leave employers with no excuse" for violating the law.

And he stressed that those who want to earn citizenship should have to assimilate into society, learn English, pay fines for breaking the law and pay back taxes.

"What I have just described is not amnesty," Bush said. "It is a way for those who have broken the law to pay their debt to society and demonstrate the character that makes a good citizen."

The president's call for tougher border security is part of a broader plan to overhaul a system that he has described as inhumane, with desperate foreigners risking their lives for a chance to earn U.S. wages. The issue raises emotions on all sides, with many Americans and influential conservatives in Congress angry that foreigners are taking jobs and draining resources across the country.

The White House hopes that the tougher security will be enough to get House conservatives to support the work permits and citizenship proposals that they have been opposed to. A bill that passed the House last year ignored those ideas and instead would increase criminal penalties for illegal immigrants and construct 700 miles of fencing.

Bush addressed some of his comments to lawmakers, calling on the Senate to act by the end of the month so a compromise can be reached with the House. "I want to speak directly to Members of the House and the Senate: An immigration reform bill needs to be comprehensive, because all elements of this problem must be addressed together, or none of them will be solved at all."

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me pak fjal emigrant qe jan brenda ne us do marin nje fare dekument me ne fund ajde shnet me shum neser

[SnoW~DroP]

mario-kingu e paske lene forumin pa te dhenat me te fundit

Besoj te gjithe e dine qe u aprovua bill per legalizimin e 12 milion emigranteve ne usa.

Sipa ketij bill emigrantet do shqyrtohen te ndare ne 3 grupe(sipas viteve ne te cilat kane ne usa)

1. 5vjet + do tu jepet qytetaria mbas 6 vjetesh pune,pagim taksash dhe mesim te gjuhes Angleze,dhe duhet te paguajne penalty

2. 2-5 vjet do tu jepet mundesia per te aplikuar per guest-worker program.

3. Me pake se 2 vjet,te kthehen mbrapsht

per me gjate lexoni me poshte,mare nga CNN

a speech to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the president said reconciling the bills already passed by the two chambers will be difficult.

"Yet the difficulty of this task is no excuse for avoiding it," he said. "The American people expect us to meet our responsibility and deliver immigration reform that fixes the problems in the current system."

Bush restated his support for improved border security, a guest worker program, and accountability for employers who hire illegal workers.

He also discussed the contentious issue of creating a "path to citizenship" for the millions of illegal immigrants already in the United States.

"Some members of Congress argue that no one who came to this country illegally should be allowed to continue living and working in our country, and that any plan that allows them to stay equals amnesty, no matter how many conditions we impose," Bush said.

"I appreciate the members are acting on deeply felt principles. I understand that. Yet I also believe that the approach they suggest is wrong and unrealistic," he continued. "There is a rational middle ground between granting an automatic path to citizenship for every illegal immigrant, and a program that requires every illegal immigrant to leave."

Last week, the Senate approved a wide-ranging overhaul of immigration laws, voting 62-36 to bolster security at the Mexican border and to grant many illegal immigrants a path toward citizenship.

But the inclusion of that path set the stage for a battle with the House of Representatives, which passed a stricter bill in December.

The House and Senate bills next head to a conference committee for possible reconciliation.

A top House opponent to the Senate plan said Friday that senators who passed the bill were not being honest.

"What's going on now, in calling it a pathway to citizenship or earned legalization, is not honest because it is amnesty," said Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wisconsin, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee.

Sensenbrenner, like all House members, faces midterm elections in the fall.

"I don't plan on signing a conference report that might look good on a bumper sticker," Sensenbrenner said at a Washington news conference.

Several senators said after the vote that the president's participation in the political maneuvering will be key to crafting a compromise. (Watch the challenges that await the bill -- 2:09 )

"I believe we can do it," Sen. Arlen Specter, a Pennsylvania Republican, told reporters. "I believe the president will put a very heavy shoulder to the wheel."

President Bush last week commended the Senate on its work in "passing bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform."

"I look forward to working together with both the House of Representatives and the Senate to produce a bill for me to sign into law," he said in a statement.

The prospects for that, however, remain uncertain.

Most members of the GOP majority in the Senate voted against the measure, with 23 backing it and 32 opposing. Among Democrats voting, 38 supported the bill and four did not. The chamber's Independent senator voted in favor.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican who voted for the bill, has called for swift talks with the House to mold a compromise measure.

The House bill passed in December focuses on border enforcement, and omits a guest-worker program and a legalization process for illegal immigrants.

In the closing moments of Senate floor debate last week, Specter looked ahead to the conference committee meetings and reminded fellow Republicans that midterm elections are looming.

"There is an important issue, political issue, about the ability of Republicans to govern," the Judiciary Committee chairman said. "There is an election in November, and our leadership positions as Republicans is on the line. And I think that will weigh heavily in the conference."

[mario_kingu]

e di kete por se dija qe u vendos ky ligj :PPp se kisha degjuar se busy working u know

po ktu nuk thot kur fillon :P

[SnoW~DroP]

di kete por se dija qe u vendos ky ligj :PPp se kisha degjuar se busy working u know

po ktu nuk thot kur fillon :P

Jo qe spo fillon,po ketej nga ne kane filluar kthimet ne mase.
Tani po degjoja lajmet,te gjithe me depertim apo probleme po i kapin nga leckat dhe gati ti cojne nga kane ardhur
Te shkrete njerez thuaj

[Pyrrhus_Mollos]

do legalizoje po ata qe kane me shume se 5 vjet dhe ata qe kane ardhe para 5-6 muajsh do i japin fshesen. pse tani u kujtuan ata te vijne