Ejani te shkojme ne shtepine e Zotit (Ps 122:1). --- Gjetja e Kishes se Pare

[marcus1]

I dashur vella i shenjte Matrix,

Ne radhe te pare do thoja se autori i ketij libri nuk eshte protestant. Por edhe po te ishte nuk do kishte ndonje gje te keqe. Jane vellezer ne Krisht dhe jo armiq te Krishtit. Jane te shenjte ne Krisht, po aq sa kane qene te shenjte edhe martiret te cilet vdiqen per besimin e tyre qe kishin ne Krisht. E dyta, ai nuk i quan gjoja te shenjte ata qe kane dhene jeten per Krishtin, perkundrazi, dhe e treta eshte se kisha ndermend te postoja te gjithe materialin, por reagimi yt me beri te vendos te mos postoj me as edhe nje shkronje mbi kete teme.

Te kerkoj falje ne se te kam lenduar apo tronditur ne shpirt me keto shkrime qe kam sjelle.

me shume dashuri,

Konti

[Matrix]

[B]At about the second century, the Christians began to venerate the bones of the saints, regarding them as holy and sacred. This eventually gave birth to relic collecting. (the first evidence of the veneration of relics appears around A.D. 156 in the Maryrium Polycarpi. In this document the relics of Polycarp are considered more valuable than precious stones and gold The Oxford Dictionary of hte Christian Church, Third Edition, p. 1379; Father Michael Collins and Matthew A. Price, The Story of Christianity DK Publishing, 1999, p. 91; The Early Liturgy, pp. 184-187.) Reverence for the dead was the most powerful community-forming force in the Roman Empire. (Ante Pacem, p. 91) Now the christians were absorbing it into their own faith. (From TEmple to Meeting House, pp. 168-172.)

In the late second century there was a shift in how the Lord's Supper was viewed. The Supper had devolved from a full meal to a stylized ceremony called "Holy Communion."

By the fourth century, this trend became ridiculous. The cup and the bread were seen as producing a sense of awe, dread, and mystery. So much so that the churches in the East placed a canopy over the altar-table (This is the table where the holy communion was placed. The altar-table signifies what is offered to God - the altar - and what is given to man - the table. (Protestant Worship and Church Architecture, p. 40. Side altars did not come into use until Gregory the Great- The history of Christianity: Volume 3,p 550)where the bread and cup sat. (In the 16th century, rails were placed upon the altar-table. (Ibid., p. 42) The rails signified that the altar-table was a holy object only to be handled by holy persons - i.e., the clergy). (In the fourth century, the laity was forbidden to go to the altar. Edwin Hatch, The Growth of Church Institutions. Hodder and Stoughton, 1895, pp. 214-215.)

So by the third century, the Christians not only had cacred spaces. They also had sacred objects. (They would soon develop a sacred priesthood.) In all of this, the second and third-century Christians began to assimilate the magical mindset that characterized pagan thinking. (Norman Towar Boggs, The Christian Saga. New York: The Macmillan Company, 1931, p. 209) All of these factors made the Christian terrain ready for the man who would be responsible for creating church buildings.


Constantine - Father of the Church Building

vazhdon...

Nga vargjet e mesiperme shihet qarte qe ky autor e tradheton veten (sic ndodh gjithmone me ata qe mbajne ne vete protestantizmin).

Nuk paska qene pra Kostandini, ai qe ka nderhyre ne Kishe, dhe i paska dhene drejtim "tjeter", por Kisha! Cfare absurditeti satanik!!!!!!

Kisha paska shkaterruar Kishen!!!!

Fali o Krisht Blasfemuesit e Nuses Tende te Shenjte qe nxorre nga Brinja Jote dhe qe e ruan me anen e Shpirtit Tend te Shenjte!

Te lutem dhe njehere vella LiveInTwoPlaces, shih me me kujdes se cfare po shkruajne! Mos e lejo veten te udhehiqesh nga te verbrit!

[Matrix]

Pra, pa u futur shume ne detajet e ketij, shkrimi, une jo vetem e kosideroj kete si nje Fyerje te hapur ndaj Kishes se Krishtit.
Psh:

In the late second and third cernturies a shift occurred. The Christians began to adopt the pagan view of reverencing the dead.
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In all of this, the second and third-century Christians began to assimilate the magical mindset that characterized pagan thinking.

Por dhe nje shkrim kontradiktor dhe aspak te besueshem.

Psh, ke te besojme, kete:

So by the third century, the Christians not only had cacred spaces. They also had sacred objects.

apo kete:

For the first three centuries, the Christians did not have any special buildings.
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Christians did not begin calling their buildings "temples" until the 15 century!

Perdornin apo nuk perdornin piktura/simbole ne adhurim:

Clement of Alexandria (150-215) was one of the first Christians advocating the visual arts in worship. (Christian History, Volume 12, No. 1, Issue 37, p. 30.)

The custom of making the "sign of the cross" with one's hands dates back to the second century.) (History of the Christian Church: Volume 2, pp. 269-270.)

dhe me pas:

Parenthetically, the cross as an artistic reference for Christ's death cannot be found prior to the time of Constantine.