Kur koke mbush mend ti dhe po behesh i matur,kur ne nje teme ne ,,padogane,, vet me shkrimin tend e ke fyer Muhamed A.S dhe ate bashke me familje,jam i sigurt qe e mban mire ne mend(nuk e di sa prej forumistave kane pasur rast t'a shohin ate shkrim dhe ajo teme eshte shlyer mbas 2 dyte ,por ti ,,cuditerisht,, ende ne forum dhe tuj tregu njerzve se si te sillen!!!Postuar më parë nga R2T
because i love u!!!!
and maybe i need u!!
but of course i miss u
and i don't even know you!!!
Ne padogane nuk ka problem mer lal , se aty nuk i shohin postimet bossat e medhenj lol
Vallahi , musliman jam por se kam sha dhe as me ben goja te shaj Jezusin ne asnje lloj menyre pasi eshte profeti i nje feje dhe si i tille duhet te respektohet dhe jo me ta shaj me rob shpie dhe me fjalorin me te ndyre sic bere R2T ndaj profetit Muhamed AS...duke shpreh ate cmiren e vet prej nji fondamentalisti te betuar dhe tashi do me predikoje "Mos ofendimet" apo "Mos uljen" ne te njejten shkalle...ska faj se ndoshta ka hall te behet moderator dhe ti ti bie ne sy atij "Te madhit" per devotshmeri ndaj rregullave te miresjelljes lol
Ahh mor r2t djali , njeriu mund te shaje dhe ofendoje gjithsesi por disa gjera nuk preken mer lal se jane TABOO te vendosura nga rregullat e shoqerise !
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Besoj qe me shkrimet e e fundit ti keni dhene fund ketij debati.
Temen e mbyllim ketu.
Po hap nje teme tjeter ku mund te shkruani serish pa dalur jasht teme.
flm
Quod timor cladis.
Sed intuitum amet elit vitae est
Ketu mund te ri shkruani idete tuaja.
leci
Quod timor cladis.
Sed intuitum amet elit vitae est
Amnesty International hits U.S., U.K.
London, , May. 26 (UPI) -- Amnesty International's annual report took particular aim at the United States, less for its practice of capital punishment than for its war on terrorism.
In the introduction to its "Report 2004" report, released Wednesday, Amnesty International said U.S. concern with terrorism is becoming a global human rights problem.
"The U.N. faced a crisis of legitimacy and credibility because of the U.S.-led war on Iraq and the organization's inability to hold states to account for gross human rights violations.
"International human rights standards continued to be flouted in the name of the 'war on terror,' resulting in thousands of women and men suffering unlawful detention, unfair trial and torture -- often solely because of their ethnic or religious background."
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Bush Says Iraq Will Have `Legitimate' Power Transfer (Update6)
May 25 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. President George W. Bush said he's assuring world leaders that the June 30 shift of authority to an Iraqi interim government will be ``legitimate'' and the country will have its own form of constitutional government.
``We never said it had to look like America,'' Bush told reporters the day after outlining his Iraq plans in a speech at the U.S. Army War College in Carlisle, Pennsylvania. ``Our interest is for Iraq to be free and stable and whole, and at peace with its neighbors. What's imperative is that the Iraqi citizens develop a constitution they can call their own.''
The U.S. and U.K. are seeking support for a United Nations Security Council resolution that, while granting Iraqi's ``governing authority'' by June 30, gives U.S. military forces control over the nation's security. Bush said last night that Iraq's interim government would be named this week as a prelude to a five-step process that begins with the June 30 transfer of sovereignty and ends with elections next year.
shum qesharake ajo mesiper...Our interest is for Iraq to be free and stable and whole, and at peace with its neighbors deri sa erdhi bushi ato kane qene duke u shkyer me komshit e tyre...this is crazy.......
Bush's decision to demolish Abu Ghraib prison draws little applause in Iraq
BAGHDAD (AP) - President George W. Bush's announcement that he would demolish the notorious Abu Ghraib prison drew little applause in Baghdad on Tuesday, and one senior Iraqi official said Iraqis themselves should decide what to do about the jail at the centre of the prisoner abuse scandal.
Bush told an audience Monday night at the Army War College in Carlisle, Pa., that Abu Ghraib, notorious for torture under Saddam Hussein and scene of torture and sexual abuse of prisoners by U.S. troops, will be destroyed "as a fitting symbol of Iraq's new beginning."
Ahmed Hassan al-Uqaili, deputy chief of the Human Rights Organization in Iraq, dismissed Bush's promise as a Republican ploy "to win the (presidential) election in the United States."
Al-Uqaili said the most important thing was to end the abuses committed by both Saddam's administration and the Americans.
"The problem is not changing the location or the name of the prison," he told The Associated Press.
"It's about the staff of the prison," he said. "Those people are supposed to be trained in human rights. Even if a person is a prisoner, he is a human being first who must be treated with respect and dignity."
Hamed al-Bayati, Iraq's deputy foreign minister and a senior official of a major Shiite Muslim political organization, said the decision to demolish Abu Ghraib "must be left to the new government" which Bush promised would take power June 30.
"The recent abuses committed by U.S. troops against Iraqi prisoners have certainly contributed to conjuring up the idea of demolishing the prison," he said.
Interior Minister Samir Shaker Mahmoud al-Sumeidi said he understood Bush's desire to "remove the memory and the stain" of the prisoner abuse scandal.
"However, I personally don't think that the building in itself has a meaning either positive or negative," he said. "I would not remove it but would change the way it is managed."
Amnesty International criticized Bush's decision, arguing that leaving Abu Ghraib standing could help in prosecuting crimes committed there under Saddam.
"Abu Ghraib can contribute toward bringing the symbolic figures of the old system and their accessories to court," Abdul Salam Sayid Ahmed, head of Amnesty's Middle East department, told the Arabic service of Germany's Deutsche Welle radio. "For that reason, we are against the U.S. president's plan to tear down the prison."
If that happened, he said "there is a danger that evidence of torture by Saddam Hussein's regime will be destroyed and a detailed accounting offences by the regime prevented."
Last week, army Specialist Jeremy Sivits was sentenced to a year in jail and a bad-conduct discharge in the first court-martial stemming from the U.S. abuse of Iraqis at the prison. He was among seven members of the 372nd Military Police Company that have been charged.
U.S. officials announced in Washington on Monday that the army general who was in charge of the U.S. prison guards at Abu Ghraib has been suspended from command of the 800th Military Police Brigade.
Brig.-Gen. Janis Karpinski and other officers in her brigade were faulted by army investigators for paying too little attention to the prison's day-to-day operations and not acting strongly enough to discipline soldiers under her command for violating standard procedures.
Ndryshuar për herë të fundit nga bunny : 26-05-2004 më 09:29
How can she fall, if there is no one there to catch her
Qesharake? Lufta Iran-Irak u nis nga Sadami....me disa qindra mijera viktima nga te dy palet. Lufta e Gjirit nisi nga pushtimi qe Iraku i beri Kuvajtit....me disa qindra mijera viktima perseri..... Synimet e Sadamit per te bere nje lufte kunder Izraelit ( te gjithe vendet arabe nen udheheqjen e Sadamit ( ne rolin e Saladinit modern) ishin te qarta me kohe.....Cfare faktesh te tjera do ti ?
"Who is John Galt?"
Toro, qellimi eshte tjeter gje dhe vepra tjeter.
Pothuajse shumica e opinionit Evropjan ishte me Ameriken gjate luftes se pare te gjirit
Persik, po ashtu edhe gjate luftes kunder Talibaneve (megjithese kjo e fundit
shnderroi tallibanet me çallme ne tallibane me kostume alla frega). Nderkohe qe lufta
e dyte kunder Irakut ishte shume e paqarte, dukej sikur Amerika terhiqej per hunde
nga lobi sionist per te kenaqur enderrat e tyre te çemendura per nje Izrael nga
Mesdheu ne Eufrat! Tani qe amerika i eshte futur kesaj vallje, eshte e detyruar ta
heqi deri ne fund dhe kete e dine shume mire regjizoret e kesaj maskarade; biles
jane gati te perdorin ç'do lloj manipulimi per ta zgjatur kete situate.
Amerika dhe Perendimi nuk paten nevoje per lufte per te triumfuar mbi rregjimet
totalitare komuniste, fitorja qe fitore e vlerave te demokracise dhe tregut te lire mbi
diktaturen dhe shterpesine ekonomise se qenderzuar. Pse u dashka qe ndaj Islamizmit
te perdoret lufta? Perendimie (Amerika ne veçanti) ka humbur besimin ne vlerat e tij?
Pse nuk i lene vendet me shumice myslymane qe duan te udhehiqen nga Sharia ta shpien
deri ne fund çmendurine e tyre Islamike, dhe nga ana tjeter Perendimi te shkepuse
ardheniet me ta, bllokade siç u be me vendet komuniste. Le te filloje Perendimi te vere ne une kokat e shkences per te gjetur nje zevedesues te naftes e te mos jete me skllav i devexhinjeve nomade te Arabise? Duke lene vendet myslymane qe te zhvillohen nen
ligjin e Shariase Kuranike do dish edhe te kontrollosh se me ke ke te besh, jo si tani
qe me valet e emigrimit masiv te arabo-myslymaneve ne Evrope e Amerike nuk di se
kush eshte me ty e kush eshte kunder ty. Neser kur endrra e myslymaneve radikal
te realizohet (nje hapesire pan Islamike nga Irani ne Marok), atehere e ke me te lete
tu thuash ketyre emigranteve qe duan Xhami, Ferexhe, ligj specjal per myslymanet
ne Evrope e Amerike...
"me gjithe qejf o mik, nje bilete avjoni falas per ne Islamland per gjith soj e sorollopin tend"
Lufta e dyte e Irakut eshte nje gabim fatal, sepse shkatrron hapesiren jetike te
Islmikeve te cilet gjejne azil ne Evrope e Amerike dhe neser pasneser me shpejtesine
e shtimit te tyre (4 gra, 8 femije mesatarish me ç'do grua) do jene problem per sistemin
demokratik Perendimor ku vota e shumices ben ligjin. Shtoi kesaj derivat e Perendimit
ku gruaja do te jete e barabarte me burrin ne ç'do pike, bel holle, aktive ne pune nate
e dite deri sa te harroje te beje femije. Gjithashtu me rritjen eksponencjale te
homoseksualizmit, Perendimi e ka te humbur luften demografike ndaj Islamit.
Nje ish president algjerian (qe ja harrova emrin) deklaronte dikur se "fitorja
jone mbi Perendimin s'do vije nga gryka e armeve por nga barku i nenave
arabe!"
Shkurt muhabeti, u duhet lene nje hapesire ku te bejne "shkencen" e jeten e tyre
si ta duan, tu tregohet vendi ketu ne Perendimi "integrim perndrysh perzenie nga
ke ardhur". Ne Irak Amerikes i duhet nje porte dalje qe veshtire se do jete
dinjitoze, por sa me shpejte te ikin aq me mire do jete. Dhe sinqerisht
si mund te veprosh ndryshe kur 80% e irakjaneve nuk i duan me amerikanet
dhe perendimoret. Dashuri me zor nuk ka :-), nuk i duan leri ne mjerimin
apo gezimin e tyre.
p.s. lexova ne Newsweek nje artikull "apologie" ku kerkohet falje per mungesen
e rigorozitet te gazetareve ne mbulimin e luftes se dyte ne Irak, nder te tjera
revista pranon se i ka dhene kredibilitet te thenave te kundershtareve irakjan
te Sadamit (azilante ne Amerike e ne Evrope); jane keta te fundit qe vinin
doren ne zjarr se "i kishin pare me syte e tyre armet e shkaterrimit ne mase"
etj etj. Shiko Shalabine sot se si i fut gishtin amerikes, apo shiitet?!!!!
Ndryshuar për herë të fundit nga Wordless : 27-05-2004 më 03:35
Nuk dua te perseris cfare ka thene Roni..kshq po e shkurtoj; nqfse e mban mend Bushi i kerkoj UN qe te hapte lufte ne IRAQ per arme berthamore ato i thane jo...pasi ato ishin future edhe e kishin kontrolluar edhe gje skishte..kurse Bushi (me inteligjencen qe me ka)bashke me qenin e tija Tonin thane we take the matter in our own hands...edhe ashtu bene...
tani mbas 1 viti e ca..Iraqu eshte bere copa copa...% i Irakianeve te vrare nga USA/UK troops edhe nga kjo lufte po arrit numrin qe ka vrare Sadami...
Shoku i Sadamit (milloshevici) po provohet ne gjykat nen Drejtat e Njeriut(qe eshte nnjelloj si do provohet Sadami,pasi per Arme berthamore do e provoje Bushi me babin e tija)..kshq USA nuk kishte pse u fuste ashtu po i bente gjerat tamam.
po te ishe puna tek keto viktima sic u shpreha mesiper kishte ane te me drejta per kete lufte (human rights)ato nuk kishin pse krijonin me shum,por menyra e trajtimit te kesaj lufte nga US nuk ka qene per keto vitkima por per Oil dhe vendeta....me disa qindra mijera viktima
Tani qe Bushi e ka bere Iraqun corap i keron ndihme UN...cnncnc per kete gje thashe 'qesharake'.Por una lashe artikullin qe postova qe te fliste vete mesa po kuptoj si se paske kuptuar....
Mos harro qe deri dje kjo lufte ka qene per Arme Berthamore...
Ndryshuar për herë të fundit nga bunny : 27-05-2004 më 12:58
How can she fall, if there is no one there to catch her
[SIZE=6][SIZE=5]Hi everybody,
lidhur me abuzimin mbi te burgosurit irakien...desha te thoja vetem kaq...gjithcka eshte e manipulueshme. Abuzimi qe i ben media publikut eshte kaq i komplikuar saqe tashme as qe behet me fjale per t'ia gjetur zanafillen. Ushtaret amerikane qe abuzuan po gjykohen, mendoj se ketu duhet te ndalojne gjithe thashethemet and get over it...Po pyetja ime gjithmone ka qene pse media nuk xjerr foto
te abuzimeve qe irakienet dhe bota muslimane ka bere me shtetasit e perendimit dhe mbi vete popullsine muslimane nen mbulesen e rehatshme "fighting for our cause" or whatever. Pse asnje nuk e ze ne goje masakren e 11 shtatorit, veprimet kanibaleske te prerjes se kokave ne shekullin e 21 etj...apo ato i dime tashme dhe qe ndodhen nga njerez te pakontrolluar keshtu qe s'kemi cfare te bejme?!? Une them qe ka shume pak njerez qe mund te flasin me fjalet e tyre pa kopjuar copeza gazetash dhe paktesh e ku di une. Pse duhet te merremi me shqyrtime te kota ne vend qe te perqendrohemi tek pika me kryesore...nqse nuk behet dicka kunder kesaj te keqe kaq te madhe qe kerkon te na coje mbrapa ne kohe drejt egersise dhe barbarizmit...e gjithe bota e perparuar do te vuaje...jo tani afer ndoshta por pak me vone dhe atehere nuk do kete me kthim mbrapa dhe as opsione per te ndryshuar katastrofen!!
Cheers everybody,
Greenflower
Lexo me kujdes ....veprimet kanibaleske te prerjes se kokave ne shekullin e 21 etj...apo ato i dime tashme dhe qe ndodhen nga njerez te pakontrolluar keshtu qe s'kemi cfare te bejme?!?
Was Nick Berg killed in Abu Ghraib prison?
conspiracyplanet.com - 25/05/2004 15:36:00 GMT
While world rage was growing over the Abu Ghraib, Afghanistan, and Guantanamo Prison abuses, the U.S. needed an outrage, it was vital to maintain support for the U.S. in Iraq. Nick Berg, an outspoken leftist who was last seen in custody of U.S. authorities, was brutally beheaded in a video. Many suspect the video was fake, and sure it was. Here is a list of evidence that brings more focus on the truth behind the beheading. Did the CIA kill him?
The beheading was just too neat, too convenient, and too well-timed, the victim is too perfect. Looking at the release photos of the abuse at Abu Ghraib prison, and comparing them to the video, something would just hit you; both the pictures of abusing the detainees, and the scene of the beheading was at the same place, it's Abu Ghraib prison.
If you looked at the walls shown in the video, they are the same yellow and old walls of Ghraib prison shown in the released photos. Also, what is Nick doing in an orange prison jumpsuit? The orange jumpsuit is the same color as the ones used at the prison!!! Terrorists don't put the people they kidnap in orange prison jumpsuits! No other hostages ever taken were dressed in orange jumpsuits. The orange color prisoner overalls that Nick is wearing are identical to the ones Islamic prisoners are made to wear by the U.S. Military Police at the Guantanamo, Cuba prison.
Also the white plastic chair that appeared in the video, it is the same white plastic chair that the infamous Pfc. Lynddie England is sitting on at the Abu Ghraib prison, in one of the released abuse photos.
Moreover, the video was not played on normal speed. Towards the end of the video, a person with a U.S. military cap temporarily pokes about a quarter of his left head into the video. His neck, left ear and part of his cap and visor can be seen. Look at the right hand side as someone with a military cap, possibly with a second video camera, pokes his head into the video.
Anyone who views the video will see that it is fake. The five so call terrorists who appeared in the video are not members of Al Qaeda as claimed. One of them appeared wearing very clean tennis shoes. This will not be the case with an Al Qaeda fighter. At least three of them are wearing bullet proof vests. Has anyone seen Al Qaeda members wearing heavy and cumbersome bullet proof vests?
When you come to think of it, a victim was needed to "refocus world opinion"; it makes sense, the U.S., and specifically the CIA needed a victim in order to get the world sympathize with it. On the other hand why, when the world is outraged over the Abu Ghraib abuses, would those who want U.S. out of Iraq do something that would so obviously make the U.S. look like relative "good guys" and victims? It just doesn't fit, nor make sense.
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