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    Promete (i lidhur) Maska e Kryeplaku
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    U gjet varri i Gjergj Arianitit

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    Eshtrat e Gjergj Aranit Komnenit nė Gjirokastėr? Tė paktėn kėshtu mendohet. Pas 600 vjetėsh, banorė tė fshatit Golem tė Gjirokastrės kanė trazuar nė kujtesėn e tyre njė emėr varri qė ndodhet nė njė prej kodrinave tė kėtij fshati dhe qė ata e lidhin me emrin e bashkėluftėtarit tė njohur tė Heroit tonė Kombėtar, Gjergj Kastriotit Skėndėrbeut. Deri pak muaj mė parė askujt nuk i kishte shkuar nėpėrmend se varri i "Gjergjit" (kėshtu ėshtė quajtur brez pas brezi), i cili ndodhet nė fshatin malor (35 kilometra larg qytetit tė Gjirokastrės) ėshtė i njė prej princave mė tė njohur tė Shqipėrisė dhe pikėrisht i Gjergj Aranitit. Dėshmitė e mė tė moshuarve tė kėtij fshati si dhe dėshmia e njė prej pasardhėsve tė Komnenėve, ka nxitur kureshtjen pėr tė gėrmuar nė varrin e "Gjergjit", me shpresėn se aty prehen eshtrat e vjehrrit tė Skėndėrbeut. Iniciativa pėr evidentimin e saktė tė kėtij fakti, ēka edhe do tė pėrbėnte njė zbulim me rėndėsi ėshtė ndėrmarrė nga mjeku i fshatit Golem, Dilaver Stroka. Pas mbledhjes sė dokumentacionit dhe bisedave me tė moshuarit nė fshat, Stroka ka nisur hulumtimin nė lidhje me kėtė figurė historike. Nisur nga tė dhėnat e mbledhura, mjeku Stroka ka kontaktuar me ekspeditėn arkeologjike tė Butrintit pėr tė gėrmuar nė varrin e "Gjergjit". "Kur ishim tė vegjėl prindėrit na porositnin: "Kujdes, mos shkelni mbi varrin e Gjergjit". Ajo qė mė ngacmoi mė shumė ishte dėshmia e nipit tė Ēaush Komnenit, pasardhėsit tė Komneneve, i cili mė ka thėnė se, sipas tė parėve tė tij, nė kėtė vend ka qenė varrosur Gjergj Arianit Komneni. Nuk u mjaftova me kaq, por kėrkova nė internet. Aty gjeta disa vargje tė njė kėnge qė tregojnė se Gjergj Araniti prehet nė njė mal, nė njė breg nė Sopot (bėhet fjalė nė Elbasan, por qė nuk ėshtė e vėrtetė). Referuar njė studiusi francez, rezulton se luftime me turqit ku ka marrė pjesė Araniti janė zhvilluar nė jug tė Shqipėrisė (nė zonėn e Janinės)", thotė Dilaver Stroka. Ky i fundit sqaron se ka marrė OK e arkeologėve dhe se gėrmimet nė varrin ku dyshohet se prehen eshtrat e prijėsit tė njohur shqiptar do tė bėhen nė mesin e muajit maj. Nė ekspeditė do tė marrin pjesė dhe arkeologė amerikanė qė do tė pėrcaktojnė moshėn e eshtrave tė varrit tė "Gjergjit" nė Golem.

    Gazeta Shqiptare 27/04/04

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    i/e regjistruar Maska e Iliriani
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    Bravo doktor Dilaveri i gjeti dhe heshtrat e Gjergjit.

    Kush e nje doktor Dilaverin si duket cudi qe pasi gjeti gjithe ato semundje gjeti dhe heshtrat e Gjergjit.

    Uroj qe golemasit me kete rast ti bejne nje kenge nga ato qe ata i dine.


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    Dear coleagues,

    my name is mihail ionescu and I am a researcher in history from Romania. I have a question and I wonder if you can answer me (I know only English as foreign language). I research about a family wicj moved from Albania to Wallachia in XVI century and their traditional name is Hranite\Aranite. I made some search on the net and I have found that in Albania their is a national hero named Gjergj Aranit Komneni. I found about hime only data in Albanian. I wonder if you can give me some links to some serious information about him in English, because I want to find if their is a connection between him and the Araniti from Wallachia (anything will help).
    Thank you in advance
    mihail

    p.s. I have posted also in another place because I need an urgent answer. sorry for the inconvenience

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    Go Pistons Maska e ledio
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    mihail75
    What do you want to know about Gjergj Arianitit?
    I searched too but i can only find Albanian links.
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    i/e regjistruar
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    I am interested in Aranitis genealogy. I have found that his daughters married one Skanderber, another Stefan Brankovic (if it is the same guy, I am not sure).
    anything will help
    m75

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    Restaurator Orbis Maska e Baptist
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    Mihail:

    Your thorough background in history and career defense may have given you incomparable intrinsic knowledge in deciphering old names and family symbols. What is the meaning of the Calmius (river)? It appears to be a rather Roman/Latin name.

    Perhaps, it may turn into a lead.

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    i/e regjistruar
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    unfortunatelly, I am not a specialist in ethymology and I don't know the origin of the name "Calmius". About Araniti, I have found in a chronicle by Chalcocondil that he rebeled against turks and that his daughter married Skanderbeg. That's all I know so far.
    m75

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    i/e regjistruar Maska e King_Gentius
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    Mihail, a medieval lord of Albania, John Musachi, mentions the Arianites frequently in his writing (translated in english). Check out this link. The words Arianiti and Musachi are highlighted. Hope it helps.

    http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache...ient=firefox-a

    see the following link for the little known genealogy of the Arianites

    http://www.sardimpex.com/files/ARIANITI%20COMNENO.htm
    Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga King_Gentius : 26-07-2005 mė 12:52

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    i/e regjistruar
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    Dear K Gentius, first link helped a lot. Thank you, I will use this chronicle.
    It is interesting that I have found a new Hranitul (Romanian name for Aranite) in the XV century; the historical sources mention him as a member of the prince familly, so it is possible that members of the Aranite familly arrived in Wallachia soon after the otoman conquest of Albania. Interesting, isn't it?
    m75

    p.s. he lived between 1376 to 1470? (according to this http://www.geocities.com/big_albania...a_komneni.html)! it is accurate?
    Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga mihail75 : 26-07-2005 mė 14:17

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    i/e regjistruar Maska e King_Gentius
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    The only thing I remember is in the old albanian movie on Skanderbeg, it portrays Arianiti as a very old man at the time of the League of Alessio of 1444.

    I did not know specifically that members of the Arianites moved to Wallachia; I know that the albanian nobility used to intermarry with serbs greeks italians french and even hungarian nobility.

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