Çamëria

[ish-kombinatsi]

I pershendese te gjithe camet dhe te gjithe antaret e ketij forumi qe jane interesuar ne kete ceshtje. Une jam 100% cam. Si nga mami dhe nga babi. Te dy prinderit e mij i kane vuajtur torturat a ushtrise greke. Babai im ka ardhur 5 vjec nga Cameria ne Shqiperi.
Saper fjalet e thena me siper mua mu be shume qejfi dhe i falenderoj te gjithe per interesin qe kishit.

Camet tani ane e mbane Shqiperise dhe botes jane bashkuar dhe kane nje shoqeri te tyren qe fatmiresisht eshte ringjallur pas nje zhdukjeje prej shume vitesh.
Saper informacion shoqeria Cameria eshte e dyta organizate qe eshte krijuar pas renies se komunizmit ne Shqiperi dhe ka perafersisht 250 000 antar, te cilet fatkeqsisht nuk po mund te bashkohen dot.
Sic e kane te gjithe shqiptaret, e lagu apo se lagu.
Une kam pasur fatin te punoj dhe te ndihmoj sadopak ne kete ceshtje te madhe. Dhe shpresoj se me ndihmen e te gjithe shqiptareve do tia arrijme qellimit per t`i marre tokat tona nga Greqia dhe per te krijuar nje Shqiperi te madhe!

[Bela-VL]

Sa per history eshte shume e dhimbshme por me teper doja te pershendes te gjihte camet kudo qe ndodhen.

[Shkupi]

Me pare pyeta por askush nuk mu pergjigj.Desha te dij nese ka informacione per gjendjen tani ne Cameri, ne Janine,Preveze e fshatrat.A ka came akoma atje, sa jane, si jetojne, e si ndihen. A ka udhetuar kush ne keto vende.Pra te dhena statistikore.

Ju falemnderit

[Jase]

Reporti i AI i 2003tes:
http://web.amnesty.org/report2003/grc-summary-eng

Nje burrim i nje NGO greke:
http://www.greekhelsinki.gr/bhr/engl...ackground.html

I pershendes vellazerit came.

[Fisnik Man]

Cameria eshte pjese e trupit tone, qe na dhemb akoma.Vete jam nga Tirana, dhe devolli me origjine, por per Cameri i qi motrat ku i kane me greke e me serbe.
Por fatkeqesisht shqiptareve po i merren mendt prej parase, dhe ndjenja kombetare pothuaj se nuk eksiston.
Greqise i duhet vene barazpeshe.
Me c'ka??
Me Kosovare, dhe me Lab.
Keto jane sot elementet me autentike shqipetare. kosovaret dhe labet.
Ah, sikur t'ishim te gjithe me nji mendje, kishim pas me i djeg keta degjenerata greko-serbe.

Anton Arvaniti.

[Shkupi]

Te falemnderit per linqet dhe raportet por aty nuk gjeta gje per camet.Beheshte fjale per keqtrajtime te shqiptareve(nga Shqiperia) por asgje per Camet.Perseri desha te pyes mos valle ka kush informate me te plote per gjendjen atje sa jane, ku jane,si jetojne,si ndihen etj.Deri me tani nuk kam hasur ne nje informate te tille dhe si duket te gjithe flasin per Camerine ne kohen e shkuar e askush per te tashmen.Cka dua te them.Dilema ime eshte e thjeshte nese aty eshte ruajtur elementi shqiptar(cam) apo tere hapesira eshte greqizuar tashme.

[MtrX]

te kjo faqe interneti ke informacion te bollshem per çamët:

http://home.tiscali.be/sajmir.xhardo.../arvanites.htm

te kjo tjetra po ashtu informacion per çamët:

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill...3/Cameria.HTML

te kjo ke foto nga vende te bukura ne More ose Çameri:

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill...alleryone.html

[LeNNoN]

Ju lumshin duart !
bravo cobra!
Pershendes gjith camet !



LeNNoN !

[ElMajico]

Pershendetje camet kudo ndodheni.....

[elis kollabani]

Une vete jam puro Çam
dhe puro Marglliçot
ju pershendes te tere Shqiptaret qe merren me ket ceshtje ne te mire te Shqiperise dhe Camerise
Cameria eshte perla e memes Shqiperi dikur e mbi populluar nga Shqiptaret
dhe tani shume ndryshe.


Nuk ka Shqiperi pa Kosove dhe Cameri

[babadimri]

Pershendetje,

Mendoj se do te ishte me shume interes qe te gjeje dikush librin nga autoret brutanik qe kane bere per Camewrine nese nuk gaboj James Pettifer dhe MIranda Vickers kane bere nje liber te mrekullueshem.

Nese ka mundesi dikush mire kishte qene ta fusim ketu

[Juxhina]

Histori i dhimbshme kjo e Cameve.Desha vetem te dij si eshte gjendja tani atje, a ka mbetur ndonje cam dhe nese po, si jetojne tani ato njerez.Sa jane camet te organizuar mbrenda dhe jashte etj.Nje popull nuk mund te zhduket se paku ne shqiptaret ne Kosove dhe ne Maqedoni e deshmuam ate, kjo vlen edhe per Camerine.Nuk dua te tingolloj si romantik por per nje gje jam mese i sigurt se e verteta gjithmone del ne pah dhe nje dite edhe Cameria do ta gezoj lirine.Te gjithe ne duhet te punojme per kete dite.Shqiperia e forte eshte zgjidhja e te gjithe problemeve shqiptare.Une kam shprese ne mergaten tone e cila gjate gjithe kohes e ka ruajtur nacionalizmin,ka investuar ne clirimin e trojeve shqiptare.Ketu ne Kosove dhe Maqedoni te jeni te sigurt se nuk jeni te harruar ne jemi me ju.

Pershendetje vellezerve dhe motrave shqiptar te Camerise.

atje ka cam qe kan mbetur, por jan detyruar te nderrojne emin dhe fene, edhe sot e kesaj dite kan frike te thone se jan cam, shqiptar.

[Juxhina]

Pershendes te gjith camet kudo qe ndodhen, pasi jam dhe vete 100% came. mu be shume shume shume qefi qe kishit hapur kete teme. shume shume shume faleminderit!

[bOndi_oo7]

Pershendetje te perzemerta vellazerore per te gjithe Camet,

Desha tu shpreh perkrahjen e plote te shqipetareve te Maqedonise, dhe tu them se ceshtja came duhet patjeter te zgjidhet (ne favor tonin kuptohet) me laps ose me barot. por me sa e shof keta politikanet tane te sodit me shume jane dhene pas korrupsionit dhe vjedhjes se sa ceshtjes kombetare qe e kemi ende te pazgjedhur.
E perkrah ate shokun Jotin, i cili me larte thote se ne rinia studentore e kemi edhe nje shans per ta "shpëtuar" cështjen Came,
Ne rinia e studentore,duhet definitivisht ti crrenjosim konjukturat e tashme politike (kriminele hajdute) dhe kur te vijme në forme ta zgjedhim kete ceshtje, sic thashe edhe me lart o me laps o me barot, se ne jemi ata qe luftuam ne lufterat e fundit dhe sigurisht nuk do te pritojme qe edhe nje here ti veshim uniformat e gjelberta,
Edhe mos harroni se ju jeni ceshtje me rendesi ne agjenden e FBKSH- force politike e cila patjeter do te vije ne pushtet.

Edhe njeher i pershendes gjithe camet kudo që jane,

[alibaba]

Çameria is situated geographically on the north-west Greece. This beautiful region, has a rich Albanian heretage and it was only in the 1912 that is was annexed unfairly and unjustifiable from Greece. This was the aftermath of the decision of the great powers to give Çameria to Greece, just as the great powers had made similar decisions to give Kosova and other Albanian territories to Serbia, Macedonia and Montenegro.
The word Çam is an evolution of the word "t'chiam" which is the name of an ancient river passing right through Çameria(The word T'chamis appears on many ancient Roman and even Hellenic maps, indicating that the word Chameria is older than the word Epirus, and it's used only by us Albanians). Another branch of this river remains to be known to this day as the "lumi i kalamait"( Kalamait River). What's most important is that everything about Çameria is Albanian in every sense of the word. The word Çameria has more of a topological meaning, but Çams have a very strong Albanian ethnicity, tradition and customs. Çameria has a very welldefined ethno-geographical meaning, which is strongly Albanian.

A large number of Çam population is situated on the seaside and goes up to the Gulf of Preveza. Another considerable number of towns and villages are situated on both sides of the river of "kalamait". The rest of of the Çam villages and towns are situated in more remote places and often on hills and mountains..

The greek goverment has been very hostile toward Çams and the main reason is the fact that Çams have a very strong Albanian identity. Another reason of the Greek hostilities is the fact that Greeks inhereted a very hostile policy towards us. During the period of time, from 1854 till 1877 the Albanians of Çameria resisted successfully the attacks from Greek "Andartes". During the WWI and WWII the greek troops attacked Çameria again. The (provisional) government of Vlora (Albania) responded by sending Albanian military troops to assist the Albanian population of Çameria , but the decision of the Ambassadors Conference assigned Çameria to Greece. As a result of this decision by the great powers, Greeks forces led by the hateful figure of N. Zervas launched attackes that ended up with many innocent Albanian locals killed.

To this day, we Çams in greece are described as bad people from an increasing "safocating" Greek propaganda based on the fact that we refuse to be assimilated as it is the case with some of "Arvanites" in south and central Greece.

The today exact number of Albanians of Çameria in Greece is approx. one million people, taking into the account some relativly newly formed Çam villages and towns elsewhere in Greece..if all the number of Albanians in Çameria is added to the number of Arvanites in other areas of Greece, then the total number of Albanians in Greece is around 3.000.000 people. However only Albanians in Çameria call themselves real Shqiptars(Albanians). Arvanites elsewhere in Greece are under greater assimilating preasure from the Greek goverment and Ani-Albanian greek circles.


Prior to WWI and WW2, the population in Çameria was around 93% Albanian , the rest were other ethnic groups such as Greeks,Vlachs, gypsies, etc.. On the 19th century, 80% of the Albanian population in Çameria was of Moslim Relegion(the process of convertion to islam started in the 18th century) and a 20% Christian Orthodox, however the first world war, found the the Albanian comunity as made up of 50% moslim and 50% orthodox beleivers(this shift happened in a matter of 70 years). After the world wars a fraction of the Moslim Populations was expelled by the Greek special forcies, leaving intact the mainly orthodox Albanian population(50%) and a small fraction of molsims(13%) who by now mostly converted to orthodoxy to survive.The converstion back and forth from one relegion to the other, before the world war I, was common among families!.
However both Albanian relegious communities were extrimily close to each-other before the war and to this day, the Greek goverment has not managed to assimilate the Albanians of Çameria. The Albanian language is spoken indoors and outdoors as much as on everyday working places, but the greek govemnet with very little preasure from outside refuses to recognise Albanian minority in greece and refuses to open schools on Albanian language.

The region is officially known asEpirus by the Greek goverment, but on the further north western corner of Greece, every single people knows the place as Çameria. Anyone from this region stating that he or she is a Çam, makes a political statment saying that he or she is an Albanian. That's why the greek goverment doesn't know officially the region as Çameria.The heartland of Çameria is also called Thesprotia.

Since i am from Çameria, my own opinion is that this region has still an Albanian majority(since many people of other ethnic groups have emigrated away, which has compensated somehow for the displacment of some Albanians during wwi and wwii!) and all the Çams expelled unjustifiably from Greece are very welcomed by all the Albanian people here, there is a UN resolution which asks the Greek govement to repatriate our brothers and sisters back to their homes, where they belog among the rest of us.

This section is dedicated to hundreds of thousands of Albanians from the region of Chameria expelled by force, from the Greek forces in 1944 and residing now in the Republic of Albania and in the memory of 850,000 Cham Albanians sent to Turkey during the period between 1913-44.
During the summer of 1944, the neo-nazi forces led by Zervas attacked many villages and towns of Chameria and as a result 9,000 Albanians(including children, women and old folks) were killed indiscriminately. A considerable number of Albanians were expelled and live now in the Republic of Albania.The official number of those Albanian refugees from Chameria is between 150,000 and 300,000.

Today they have formed their own Albanian patriotic and cultural association based in Tirana and which is active right across Albania. Among other they are asking from the Greek goverment in Athens-Greece, to be repatriated and their lands and other accets be returned to them as well as compasations for the usage of the lands for the past 50 years. Also they are rallying for the opening of Albanian schools to the Albanians living in Chameria.

The policy of expulsion of Cham Albanians from Chameria had started earlier than 1944. Greeks as well as Serbs followed the same pattern in politics with respect to Albanians. Often they had signed documents with the Turkish government for the exchange of Moslims with Christians. During all this not a single Cham Albanian was asked!. As a result of such policy around 850,000 Cham Albanians from Chameria were sent to Turkey, where they are settled in the region of asia minor in Turkey.

[alibaba]

Qyteti ilir i Dodones ne Çameri.

[alibaba]

Nje harte e Çamerise.

[Fatjeta]

Pershendes ..Popullin cam kudo qe jane ! Besojme se nje dite do gezojme Shqiperin e Bashkuar!

[olsi mushi]

Cameri, toke e sterlashte
pergjate bregdetit Jon,
u linde me te bashke,
me te dhe sot jeton.

Mbi kurruzin tuaj,
shekujt sfiduan thesprotet,
stergjyshit tane,
fis nga me te fortet.

Varret dhe lavdi e tyre,
djepi jone jane,
ne kohet e reja ti hyre,
me emrin e bukur Cam.

BArku yt ke pjelle,
me gji ke mekuar,
burra shume te ndier,
neper kohe te respektuar.

Neper luftera per lire,
ne kuvende dhe ne pene,
jo pak u ben fli,
per kombin, per memedhene.

I pari nise Muhamet Cami,
Shqipen e bukur te shkruaje,
valle hidhte jatagani,
ne lufte kur cami sulej.

Hasan Tasini nga Ninati,
u be tru i perandorise,
por shpirtin gjithnje e pati,
te hallet e Shqiperise.

Punoj pa u kursyer,
ne cdo fushe te diturise,
e dha cpati me te vyer,
ne te mire te kombesise.

Bijte e Arberise i mblodhi,
ne zemer te perandorise,
me idete qe u hodhi,
mbolli faren e lirise.

Ne Prizren kur u mblodhen,
Lidhjen e Tij krijuan,
themelet e shtetit hodhen,
atje Musa Demi shkruan.

Prape u mblodhen ne Manastir,
rreth germadhave te Hasan profetit,
qe cka flitej te shkruhej mire,
jo me krraba, as germat e grekut.

1912 Nentori ne te dale,
Camet ne Vlore shkuan,
bashke me Ismail Qemalin,
mevetsine peruruan.

Gezoi gjithe Shqiperia,
diten e shenjte te flamurit,
valle hodhi Cameria,
aq sa dridhej zemer e burrit.

[olsi mushi]

Cameri, toke e sterlashte
pergjate bregdetit Jon,
u linde me te bashke,
me te dhe sot jeton.

Mbi kurruzin tuaj,
shekujt sfiduan thesprotet,
stergjyshit tane,
fis nga me te fortet.

Varret dhe lavdi e tyre,
djepi jone jane,
ne kohet e reja ti hyre,
me emrin e bukur Cam.

BArku yt ke pjelle,
me gji ke mekuar,
burra shume te ndier,
neper kohe te respektuar.

Neper luftera per lire,
ne kuvende dhe ne pene,
jo pak u ben fli,
per kombin, per memedhene.

I pari nise Muhamet Cami,
Shqipen e bukur te shkruaje,
valle hidhte jatagani,
ne lufte kur cami sulej.

Hasan Tasini nga Ninati,
u be tru i perandorise,
por shpirtin gjithnje e pati,
te hallet e Shqiperise.

Punoj pa u kursyer,
ne cdo fushe te diturise,
e dha cpati me te vyer,
ne te mire te kombesise.

Bijte e Arberise i mblodhi,
ne zemer te perandorise,
me idete qe u hodhi,
mbolli faren e lirise.

Ne Prizren kur u mblodhen,
Lidhjen e Tij krijuan,
themelet e shtetit hodhen,
atje Musa Demi shkruan.

Prape u mblodhen ne Manastir,
rreth germadhave te Hasan profetit,
qe cka flitej te shkruhej mire,
jo me krraba, as germat e grekut.

1912 Nentori ne te dale,
Camet ne Vlore shkuan,
bashke me Ismail Qemalin,
mevetsine peruruan.

Gezoi gjithe Shqiperia,
diten e shenjte te flamurit,
valle hodhi Cameria,
aq sa dridhej zemer e burrit.

Skaloi me shume se nje vit,
Camerise gezimi ne buze iu ngri,
nga trungu si nej dege u shqit,
si motrat, e zeza Cameri.

E vetme dhe e ndare,
si gyqe barisje ti,
mbaroj dhe Lufta e Pare,
katakombeve zvarriteshe pa sy.

Kur shpertheu Lufta e Dyte,
me shpresa te medha luftove,
ngavarret te ngriheshin bijte,
dhe ti ne lufte i dergove.

Doje bashkimin me trungun,
qe me dhune te ndane,
te fitoje dinjitetin e humbur,
por prape pa flamur te lane.

Te vrane, te masakruan,
te rrembyen cdo gje,
me ura zjarri ne duar,
te dogjen gjer me nje.

Dridhej femija ne bark te nenes,
jetet ti kepusnin si gjethe,
varej gruaja ne dege te pemes,
me gjithe foshnjen qe kish me vete.

Tmerri pushtoj njerine,
qe ikte nga syte kembet,
neper flake la Camerine,
me gjithe mallin e gjene.

Lane varret e vjetra,
dhe ato te rejat qe bene,
as ne kohet me te egra,
skish ndedhur e tille gjeme.

Ca u vrane ne te ikur,
te tjere ne lime e det u mbyten,
kush shpetoj me gjak te prishur,
te kthehej prape priste diten.

Priten dhe sot po presin,
jo pak po after nje shekull,
kurse masakruesit e tyre pyesnin:
Akoma eksiston ky popull?



Dedikuar Camerise Shqitare dhe deshmoreve cam Shqipetare qe kan sakrifikuar jeten per lirine e Shqiperise.