Dy dokumentare BBC dhe nje liber qe shpjegojne luftrat ne lindjen e mesme dhe kush ndikoi

[HFTengineer]

Mos ti futemi ekonomise neoliberalismit, ne demokraci qe se ke kap fare:
http://www.softpanorama.org/Skeptics...rd_mafia.shtml

si rasti i rusise qe dalin kundra sot te njejtej njerez dalin neper televizjone dhe e shajne si ne amerike dhe rusi, qene miq cifuta nga shume vende ekonmista amerikane qe kalonin ne deret e bankave te invetsimeve ne ny dhe rus si Anatoly Chubais [ qe u be dhe vete oligark kalovi tek goldman sach ] qe benin bashkpunim me njeri tjeterin ,ne kohen e nje idjoti plere, pupet si yelisn qe beri reforma disastrose dhe e covi ekonomine ne skamje ne krizen asiatike te 97 pershkak se u shkollonte nga kta te fundit, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Yeltsin dhe ekonomistat cifut e ndane vendin deri me oligarket e tyre cifut te bere ne ate kohe qe mbas 90, e ndan pronat e vendit midis dhe i blene ato pronat me 1/70 se vleres reale.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privatization_in_Russia

Dhe cberi putini per poplluin e vet ne ekonomi qe sot shahet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin

Dhe marveshjes i dha oligarkve te ber athere dhe ci beri atyre qe u larguan ne londer mbasi vodhen ndhe krizes qe krijuan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_oligarch

[mesia4ever]

Po tishte per demokraci arabia saudite ka dhe kishte nje nga demokaricte me te kqija ne bote dhe ja ne raqe ja merrte dhe ja merrte irakut ehste deklaruar per dekada, pse snderhyne atje meqe e kishin tek demokracija??

Vella ky eshte (do te ishte) indikacion se qellimi nuk ishte futja e demokracise ne Irak nese injorojme argumentat tjere... pra nuk duhet te harrojme se plani amerikan ishte qe njehere te instalohej demokracia ne Irak pastaj ajo do te perhapej vetvetiu ne te gjitha vendet arabe me kohe. Nese do te sulmohej Arabia Saudite myslimanet e gjithe botes do te thonin: "Ja Amerika ka qellim shkatrrimin e fese islame ejani te shpallim lufte dhe xhihad". Pra duhet ta kuptojme se sulmi ndaj Arabise Saudite do te ishte i njejte sikur sulmi ndaj Vatikanit. Ky veprim do te konsiderohej si lufte fetare dhe jo lufte per demokraci e liri. Keto jane shtete kryekeput fetare...
Arabine Saudite nuk e kritikojne zyrtarisht asnje shtet, edhe pse atje njerezve te pafajshem u prehet koka sikur ne Siri nga ISIS... sauditet nuk ua prejne kokat njerezve me thika 20 centimetra sikur ISIS, por me shpata kah 1 meter e 20 centimeter... arabet thojne kjo eshte feja, kultura, tradita jone, askush s'mund te na perzihet ne ceshtjet e brendshme. Sadami ishte tjeter histori, ai kishte sulmuar edhe vende tjera.
Arabia Saudite ka ndikim te madh ne te gjitha shtetet e botes, mere shembullin e intervenimit ne Jemen, askush nuk ua prishe sauditeve, as USA as Rusia, as Kina, as Franca e Britania...

[HFTengineer]

O plako arabie saudite eshte ortak i amerikes gjeja e pare, gjeja e dyte ne lindjen e mesme jan sulmuar te gjithe vendet muslimane ka dekada, po tishte se i plaste aq shume per muslimanet aty . Arabia sapo ja futi jemenit pse nuk u ngrit amerika ta qortonte meqe ka rolin e sjellejes se demokracise ? As qe se cau pallen . Amerika exporton demokraci aty ku i dalin kunder israelit dhe aty ku ka perfitime. E di pse quhet petro dollar, dollari dhe eshte global reserve currency?

Pastaj ekonomikisht ka rreth 15 vjete qe u fut demokracia ne irak.Gdp e irakut eshte rritur eksponencjalisht ndersa popunsia ka vajt ne kulmet e fillimit. Iraku nuk ka finance qe te eksportj vendet e punes dhe ekonomia nuk eshte aq dinamike nafta dhe buqsia bejne pjesen me te madhe te ekonomise. Ky eshte paradox te rritesh gdp meqe kishin ardhur vetem per demokraci po te mbash papunsine ne te njejtetnivele.

[HFTengineer]

Le ti pergjigjemi pyetjes tende meqense qeke ekspert fetar dhe nga gjeopolitika dhe ekonomia merrke vesh po aq shume.
Gjeja e pare meqense po e ben arabine baze. A e di luftrat e implikuara te arabise saudite kro 60 vitet e fundit?
Pra ne llogjiken tende pse irakut egjyptit i athershem dhe yemeni e shume te tjere do i dilnin kunder house of saudi apo shpise se saudve apo mbretrise meqenese e konsideronin si vend kryesor? A e kupto ti qe arabia saudite ka pat monopolin dhe ka persa i perket opekut dhe ka qene partneri kryesor i evropes dhe amerikes ne nafte dhe dollari eshte reserve currency per shkak te ktij partneriteti?
Simbas teje vendeve si irakut dhe njerzve dhe yemenit e shume te tjere qe humben stabilitetn dhe ekonomite e futin ne lufte i interesonte stabiliyeti ekonomik dhe personal me pak se ai fertar?
Nuk e di po te mungokan ca vida. A e kupton qe kina e ka partner arabine dhe varet nga nafta dhe rusia se eshte ne opec ? Si mendon ti se rusise dhe kines i interesonte ti binte me ameriken nga mbrapa dhe nje ortaku kryesor?
A e di ti ekonmikisht ca ka franca me arabine ?

E kupton to qe amerika anglia ka dekada qe nderhyn per israelin dhe kane sulmuar rreth 80 % te vendeve muslimane ne lindjen e mesme po ti plaste aq shume per muslimanet dhe stabilitetin aty.
E luften me jordanine, egjyptin sirine r shume te tjera duke ardh te kto te sotmet?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...volving_Israel

Ti plako me duket se jetoke ne nje planet theter.
Anuk e kupto qe ata qe po i futen ne politkat fetare flas u futen per shkak te skamjes dhe so u shtypen me dekada si palestina , iraku, irani e shume te tjere?

[HFTengineer]

O robo e kupto qe isis eshte wahabist apo e veshtire dhe isis doli mbas sadamit dhe iraku eshte shume me keq jo vetem politikisht por edhe ekonimikisht tek papunsia mbas 15 vjetesh. A e kupto qe amerika ska vene doren kundra isit ne irak deri tani, dhe e krijoi vete kte problem duke i financuar dhe aramtosur bashk me arabine saudite turqine dhe israelin qe i mjekonte me spitalet ne israel ,ne proxy wars?
A e merr vesh ti qe arabia saudite eshte wahabiste salfiste dhe alqaida eshte salfiste dhe bin laden eshte salfist dhe arab jo iraken dhe as qu gjet lidhje midis irakut.
A e kupto qe arabia saudite u shpall dhe ka dekada qe shpallet nga dy demokracite me te keqia ne bote se bashku me israelin nga shume organizata dhe madje dhe vete dhe united nation duke ja marre dhe atyre vendeve me te mbaruara?
A kupton qe ktu eshte paradoks dhe ironi pa fund dhe qe eshte per tu qeshur dhe kto lloj kllaunlliqesh kaq haptas qe vetem politka nuk mund te quhen as kalamajt nuk e hajn por prap vashdojne me propagande.

[HFTengineer]

Iraku ka rreth 15 vjet qe gdp ngrihet ne vlera te konisderueshme duke qenese se nuk ka nje ekonomi te zakonshme dhe aq dinamike por kryesisht me nafte dhe bujqsi. Me perpara ja venin fajin sadamit kta te perendimi, po tani qe eshte demokraci , per sa i perket ekonominse ?
Me gjithe kte ngritje ne gdp rreth 15 vjetvje ka papunsime me te larte ne lindjen e mesme dhe emigracjonin me te madh madje me shum sec e kishte 15 vjet me perpara kur vendin e kishte sadami. Ky pra eshte paradox.

[HFTengineer]

41% rritja e varferise me shume se ne kohen e sadamitne ne zonat e isis dhe 13 -20 % ne zonat e tjera :
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/po...rms-1887217637

[mesia4ever]

I nderuar dihet se Amerika shikon edhe interesat e veta ekonomike dhe politike dhe fatkeqesisht nuk eshte gjithnje e drejte, sic nuk eshte asnje shtet tjeter ne kete bote. A e di ti sa miliarda dollare kane shpenzuar sauditet duke blere armatimin e fundit amerikan. Ata duke bere vetem kete (pa e futur ketu interesat e politikes te 'petro-dollarit') kane krijuar qindra mijera vende pune ne USA (perkatesisht ne kompanite qe prodhojne armatim) andaj ketu ka hyre interesi i parase, ku hyn interesi per para drejtesia vdes. Kjo gjithmone ka qene keshtu dhe do te jete keshtu. Une se perkrahi kete politike, as Izarelin nuk e perkrahi pasi edhe aty luftohet besimi krishter nga ektremistet cifute (mund te te sjelle video ku cifutet u thojne misionareve te krishtere "shporruni, ikni tek Jezusi") dhe autoritetet cifute i injorojne keto akte, pastaj ka edhe dhune dhe presion psikologjik ndaj cifuteve qe duan te besojne ne Jezusin. Zionizmi ska te beje asgje me te krishteret, Biblen dhe krishterimin.
Kjo svaret nga une asgje, Izraeli me Arabine Saudite kane interesat e perbashketa kunder Iranit. As nuk perkrahi konservatoret apo neokonservatoret dhe as qe me intereson se cfare bejne, nese bejne dejtesi i perkrahi nese jo nuk i perkrahi.

[Ciarli]

Lindja e Mesme ka qene nje vend i shkrete, shkretetire e populluar nga arabet(popull me nuance ngjyre ndryshe nga arapet e sotem) devete dhe kojotat. Me pas me flakjen e popullit Hebre(nuk jane te gjithe hebrenj psh ngaterrestaret medhenj jane denime te zotit) ne ato brigje, pak nga pak Zoti(qe mund te krahasohet me diktatore te tmerrshem si Idi Amin qe ka shume klane engjejsh armike dhe po nxihet dita dites figura e tij por jo forca) e populloi kete vend me shpirtra djallezor, denime te skenes se historise ardhshme te hebrenjve, shpirtra qe i mundojne edhe sot me luftra dhe zjarre te cdo lloji!

[HFTengineer]

I nderuar dihet se Amerika shikon edhe interesat e veta ekonomike dhe politike dhe fatkeqesisht nuk eshte gjithnje e drejte, sic nuk eshte asnje shtet tjeter ne kete bote. A e di ti sa miliarda dollare kane shpenzuar sauditet duke blere armatimin e fundit amerikan. Ata duke bere vetem kete (pa e futur ketu interesat e politikes te 'petro-dollarit') kane krijuar qindra mijera vende pune ne USA (perkatesisht ne kompanite qe prodhojne armatim) andaj ketu ka hyre interesi i parase, ku hyn interesi per para drejtesia vdes. Kjo gjithmone ka qene keshtu dhe do te jete keshtu. Une se perkrahi kete politike, as Izarelin nuk e perkrahi pasi edhe aty luftohet besimi krishter nga ektremistet cifute (mund te te sjelle video ku cifutet u thojne misionareve te krishtere "shporruni, ikni tek Jezusi") dhe autoritetet cifute i injorojne keto akte, pastaj ka edhe dhune dhe presion psikologjik ndaj cifuteve qe duan te besojne ne Jezusin. Zionizmi ska te beje asgje me te krishteret, Biblen dhe krishterimin.
Kjo svaret nga une asgje, Izraeli me Arabine Saudite kane interesat e perbashketa kunder Iranit. As nuk perkrahi konservatoret apo neokonservatoret dhe as qe me intereson se cfare bejne, nese bejne dejtesi i perkrahi nese jo nuk i perkrahi.

Arabia saudite nuke e mbron nuk ka interesa me ameriken per shkak te armative, por pershkak se petro dollari mban gjithe ekonomine pra pa te do ishte nje zero.
Ti akoma nuk e kupton raportrin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon_shock


The Nixon shock [1] was a series of economic measures undertaken by United States President Richard Nixon in 1971, the most significant of which was the unilateral cancellation of the direct international convertibility of the United States dollar to gold.

While Nixon's actions did not formally abolish the existing Bretton Woods system of international financial exchange, the suspension of one of its key components effectively rendered the Bretton Woods system inoperative. While Nixon publicly stated his intention to resume direct convertibility of the dollar after reforms to the Bretton Woods system had been implemented, all attempts at reform proved unsuccessful. By 1973, the Bretton Woods system was replaced de facto by a regime based on freely floating fiat currencies that remains in place to the present day.

In 1944 in Bretton Woods, New Hampshire, representatives from 44 nations met to develop a new international monetary system that came to be known as the Bretton Woods system. Conference members had hoped that this new system would “ensure exchange rate stability, prevent competitive devaluations, and promote economic growth."[2] It was not until 1958 that the Bretton Woods System became fully operational. Countries now settled their international accounts in dollars that could be converted to gold at a fixed exchange rate of $35 per ounce, which was redeemable by the U.S. government. Thus, the United States was committed to backing every dollar overseas with gold. Other currencies were fixed to the dollar, and the dollar was pegged to gold.

For the first years after World War II, the Bretton Woods system worked well. With the Marshall Plan, Japan and Europe were rebuilding from the war, and countries outside the US wanted dollars to spend on American goods — cars, steel, machinery, etc. Because the U.S. owned over half the world's official gold reserves — 574 million ounces at the end of World War II — the system appeared secure.[3]

However, from 1950 to 1969, as Germany and Japan recovered, the US share of the world's economic output dropped significantly, from 35% to 27%. Furthermore, a negative balance of payments, growing public debt incurred by the Vietnam War, and monetary inflation by the Federal Reserve caused the dollar to become increasingly overvalued in the 1960s.[3]

In France, the Bretton Woods System was called "America's exorbitant privilege"[4] as it resulted in an "asymmetric financial system" where non-US citizens "see themselves supporting American living standards and subsidizing American multinationals". As American economist Barry Eichengreen summarized: "It costs only a few cents for the Bureau of Engraving and Printing to produce a $100 bill, but other countries had to pony up $100 of actual goods in order to obtain one".[4] In February 1965 President Charles de Gaulle announced his intention to exchange its U.S. dollar reserves for gold at the official exchange rate.[5]

By 1966, non-US central banks held $14 billion, while the United States had only $13.2 billion in gold reserve. Of those reserves, only $3.2 billion was able to cover foreign holdings as the rest was covering domestic holdings.[6]

By 1971, the money supply had increased by 10%.[7] In May 1971, West Germany left the Bretton Woods system, unwilling to revalue the Deutsche Mark.[8] In the following three months, this move strengthened its economy. Simultaneously, the dollar dropped 7.5% against the Deutsche Mark.[8] Other nations began to demand redemption of their dollars for gold. Switzerland redeemed $50 million in July.[8] France acquired $191 million in gold.[8] On August 5, 1971, the United States Congress released a report recommending devaluation of the dollar, in an effort to protect the dollar against "foreign price-gougers".[8] On August 9, 1971, as the dollar dropped in value against European currencies, Switzerland left the Bretton Woods system.[8] The pressure began to intensify on the United States to leave Bretton Woods.










After his defeat at Mulayda, Abdul-Rahman ibn Faisal went with his family into exile in the deserts of eastern Arabia among the Al Murra bedouin. Soon afterward, however, he found refuge in Kuwait as a guest of the Kuwaiti emir, Mubarak Al Sabah. In 1902, Abdul-Rahman's son, Ibn Saud, took on the task of restoring Saudi rule in Riyadh. Supported by a few dozen followers and accompanied by some of his brothers and relatives, Abdul Aziz was able to capture Riyadh's Masmak fort and kill the governor appointed there by Ibn Rashid. Abdul Aziz, reported to have been barely 20 at the time, was immediately proclaimed ruler in Riyadh. As the new leader of the House of Saud, Abdul Aziz became commonly known from that time as "Ibn Saud".

Ibn Saud spent the next three decades trying to re-establish his family's rule over as much of the Arabian Peninsula as possible, starting with his native Najd. His chief rivals were the Al Rashid clan in Ha'il, the Sharifs of Mecca in the Hijaz, and the Ottoman Turks in al-Hasa. Ibn Saud also had to contend, however, with the descendants of his late uncle Saud ibn Faisal (later known as the "Saud al-Kabir" branch of the family), who posed as the rightful heirs to the throne. Though for a time acknowledging the sovereignty of the Ottoman Sultans and even taking the title of pasha, Ibn Saud allied himself to the British, in opposition to the Ottoman-backed Al Rashid. From 1915 to 1927, Ibn Saud's dominions were a protectorate of the British Empire, pursuant to the 1915 Treaty of Darin.

By 1932, Ibn Saud had disposed of all his main rivals and consolidated his rule over much of the Arabian Peninsula. He declared himself king of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia that year. Previously, he had gone through several titles, starting with "Sultan of Najd" and ending with "King of Hijaz and Najd and their dependencies." Ibn Saud's father, Abdul Rahman retained the honorary title of "imam." In 1937 near Dammam, American surveyors discovered what later proved to be Saudi Arabia's vast oil reserves. Before the discovery of oil, many family members were destitute.[18]

Ibn Saud sired dozens of children by his many wives. He had at most only four wives at one time. He divorced and married many times. He made sure to marry into many of the noble clans and tribes within his territory, including the chiefs of the Bani Khalid, Ajman, and Shammar tribes, as well as the Al ash-Sheikh (descendants of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab). He also arranged for his sons and relatives to enter into similar marriages. He appointed his eldest surviving son, Saud as heir apparent, to be succeeded by the next eldest son, Faisal. The Saudi family became known as the "royal family," and each member, male and female, was accorded the title amir ("prince") or amira ("princess"), respectively.

Ibn Saud died in 1953, after having cemented an alliance with the United States in 1945. He is still celebrated officially as the "Founder," and only his direct descendants may take on the title of "his or her Royal Highness." The date of his recapture of Riyadh in 1902 was chosen to mark Saudi Arabia's centennial in 1999 (according to the Islamic lunar calendar).

Upon Ibn Saud's death, his son Saud assumed the throne without incident, but his lavish spending led to a power struggle with the new crown prince, Faisal. In 1964, the royal family forced Saud to abdicate in favor of Faisal, aided by an edict from the country's grand mufti. During this period, some of Ibn Saud's younger sons, led by Talal ibn Abdul Aziz defected to Egypt, calling themselves the "Free Princes" and calling for liberalization and reform, but were later induced to return by Faisal. They were fully pardoned but were also barred from any future positions in government.


U.S. President Barack Obama offers condolences on death of Saudi King Abdullah, Riyadh, 27 January 2015
Faisal was assassinated in 1975 by a nephew, Faisal ibn Musaid, who was promptly executed. Another brother, Khalid, assumed the throne. The next prince in line had actually been Prince Muhammad, but he had relinquished his claim to the throne in favor of Khalid, his only full brother.



Saudi Arabia has an oil-based economy with strong government control over major economic activities. Saudi Arabia possesses 18%[15] of the world's proven petroleum reserves, ranks as the largest exporter of petroleum, and played a leading role in OPEC for many years.[16] The petroleum sector accounts for almost all of Saudi government revenues,[17] and export earnings. Most workers, particularly in the private sector, are foreigners.





Saudi Arabia was a subsistence economy until the 1930s. During the 1973 oil crisis Saudi began to grow rapidly and peaked around 1980.[25] In the mid 1980s the oil price dropped from a high of US$40 per barrel to around US$5, and the country built up a massive overseas debt.[20] From 2002 to mid-2008 oil prices recovered,[20] allowing the government to post budget surpluses, and boost spending.[citation needed]

Saudi Arabia was an economy based on subsistence agriculture by a population that was largely nomadic and very poor until the discovery of oil in the 1930s. To raise the price of oil, Saudi Arabia and several other major exporters (Venezuela, Iraq, Iran and Kuwait) founded the Organisation of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), to regulate production.[25] The first five-year "Development Plan" was started in 1970,[26] and these have continued sequentially so that 2015 will be the first year of the tenth plan.[27]

During the 1973 oil crisis OPEC production cuts raised the price of petroleum from $3 per barrel to nearly $12. Saudi became one of the fastest-growing economies in the world. It enjoyed a substantial surplus in its overall trade with other countries; imports increased rapidly; and ample government revenues were available for development, defense, and aid to other Arab and Islamic countries. Another price jolt around 1980 during the Iran–Iraq War brought Saudi Arabia to what has (so far) been its economic peak (in terms of per capita income).[25]

But higher oil prices led to development of more oil fields around the world and reduced global consumption. The result, beginning in the mid-1980s, was a worldwide oil glut, with the oil price dropping from a high of US$40 per barrel to a low point of around US$5. This introduced an element of planning uncertainty for the first time in a decade. Saudi oil production, which had increased to almost 10 million barrels (1,600,000 m3) per day during 1980–81, dropped to about 2 million barrels per day (320,000 m3/d) in 1985. Budgetary deficits developed, and the government drew down its foreign assets.[28] Responding to financial pressures, Saudi Arabia gave up its role as the "swing producer" within OPEC in the summer of 1985 and accepted a production quota. Since then, Saudi oil policy has been guided by a desire to maintain market and quota shares.

In June 1993, Saudi Aramco absorbed the state marketing and refining company (SAMAREC), becoming the world's largest fully integrated oil company. Most Saudi oil exports move by tanker from oil terminals at Ras Tanura and Ju'aymah in the Persian Gulf. The remaining oil exports are transported via the east-west pipeline across the kingdom to the Red Sea port of Yanbu. A major new gas initiative promises to bring significant investment by U.S. and European oil companies to develop non-associated gas fields in three separate parts of Saudi Arabia. Following final technical agreements with concession awardees in December 2001, development should begin in 2002.

However, beginning in late 1997, Saudi Arabia again faced the challenge of low oil prices. Due to a combination of factors—the East Asian economic crises, a warm winter in the West caused by El Niño, and an increase in non-OPEC oil production—demand for oil slowed and pulled oil prices down by more than one-third.

Saudi Arabia was a key player in coordinating the successful 1999 campaign of OPEC and other oil-producing countries to raise the price of oil to its highest level since the (Persian) Gulf War by managing production and supply of petroleum. That same year, Saudi Arabia established the Supreme Economic Council to formulate and better coordinate economic development policies in order to accelerate institutional and industrial reform.

Saudi Arabia acceded to the WTO in 2005 after many years of negotiations.



Most ti futemi krizave te naftes dhe presidnteve te tjere si Regan qe vashduan .
Arabia Saudite po mundohet te diversifikohet ne real estate kto vitete e fuindiet por prap nu ka nga tja mbaj parndaj komplet arabia mbahet nga raporti qe ka me petro dollar.