Myftiu Tërnava: Nuk kemi gjak të njomë për të ujitur shkretëtirat e arabëve

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Te krishteret injorant si pune jote me shok ne munges t'argumentave ne kundershtu fen islame vetem nje muhabet kan kapen mas marteses Aishes . Maria ishte vetem 12 vjece dhe mos genje mashtrus apo te vjen turp me e pranu?

Pergjigju pyetjeve t'mia mos i anashkalo se trego dobsi dhe pamundsi argumentimi. Do ja jepshe ti biblen goces tate t'vogel te lexoj kur flitet per 'penisin qe e kishte sa te gomarit'' apo per profetin LUT qe boni seks me 2 gocat e veta?

Ju qe flisni gjithmon per pedofili duhet ta keni n'gjak. N'fakt pedofilia osht bo n'mode sot n'fen e krishter. Ti besoj duhet t'jesh profesionist se n'maj t'gojes e ke .

1-Kur te sjellesh argument duhet ta sjellesh me vargje biblike te sakta,,dhe jo hamedesira
2-Eshte vertet qe luti ka bere sex me dy bijat e veta,,por ka qene i dehur dhe pa deshiren e tije,,pasi vajzat e tije menduan se ishin te vetem qe shpetuan nga goditja qe i beri zoti,,Sadomes edhe gamorres,,Dhe c'fare eshte me e rendesishme nqs se Luti do te ishte person negativ,atehere nuk do te permendej si profet ne Kuran, keshtu qe me vjen keq qe ke bere nje krahesim jo te denje duke thene se une do ti jepja vajzes time biblen qe ti lexoj ato qe thuhen aty sipas atyre qe ti shkruan,, Jo po do ti thosha Xhaxhait time 54 vjecar te martohej me nje vajze 6-9 vjece,,kjo do te ishte pergjigja,,,Jo !! dhe me vjen keq qe gjuha qe perdor nuk eshte e nje myslimani te devoteshem,,,une kam shume respekt per myslimanet,,sic eshte Nuhu Musa,,Ceni-1 etj,ketu ne forum une dua te gjitha krijesat e perendise,,,dhe nqs se e ke pare ne funde te shkrimit qe une kam bere te kam quajtyr vella dhe te thashe respekete edhe paqe, une nuk te fyeva ty ,e ndersa ti nuk zgjati shume edhe fillove te me fyesh,keshtu qe une skam pse shqtesohem se po debatoj me nje mysliman te devoteshem sespe ti nuk je i tille,
Te Uroj Paqe Ne shpirte edhe vete Kontroll Vellai ime !!

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Ti vertet qenkeshe i injorant i papare.....njerez te rangut tend duhet injoruar derisa te mesoni si duhet zhvilluar nje debat te mirefillt....merre si te kesh qejf, une ua them te gjitheve troç - kryekeput per psikiater.

As ke lexuar gjesend, pos pretendon se ke lexuar, ndersa ne te vertete je i trushpelar - i indiktrinuar nga misionaret masono-sioniste anti-fetare. Mos me repliko se sikur ta dija se ne ç'vend ndodhesh do te te zhdepja ne dru dite e nate gjer te humbje frymen e fundit. Idiot!

Paskeshe fyer jo vetem fenë Islame por gjithashtu edhe fete tjera, ndaj emertimi IDIOT!

Cilet Fe Kam Kam Ofenduar se spo e kuptoj,ndoshta jam vertet Injorant,dhe kerkoj ndjese,,,,Ketu ka dicka kur filetet flitet me baza dhe argumenta me vargje sure ajete etj, ok ,,keshtu qe per sa kohe nje person nuk paraqet argumenta te forta ,,shkrimet sja merr per baze njeri dhe injorehoen nga forumistet e tjere!! Paqe dhe Respkete Vella Aferim!!!

[mesia4ever]

Sa prej jush i kane lexuar vargjet e Pashko Vases?
E mos shikoni kisha e xhamija
Feja e shqiptarit asht shqiptarija.
C‘pune keni ju me fene e njeri tjetrit ?
Shikoni punet tuaja, do zgjidhin shqiptaret hallet e botes.
Mos e harroni kush vendos fene perpara flamurit eshte nje bastard (shqip, dobic) dhe nuk e ka vendin ne Shqiperi. Le te shkoje ku te doje, ne Arabi, Turqi, Greqi, Serbi, more mbrapa diellit, ne te s‘emes le te shkoje, por jo ketu ne toke shqiptare.

P. S.
Edhe njehere ju falenderoje per kenaqesine qe me dhane diskutimet tuaja akademike, por mos harroni ky vendi ketu quhet forum dhe jo lemi i fshatit.

Feja e shqiptarit eshte shqiptaria. Kjo thenie e Pashko Vases eshte keqperdorur nga sistemi komunisto ateist per te perkrahur kinse patriotizmin por ne fakt eshte perdorur qe shqiptaret t'i lene ne ateizmin injorant. Kjo thenie eshte thene ne kontekst te asaj kohe. Kete thenie thuaja disa myslimaneve dhe ateisteve sepse te krishteret nuk bejne percarje kombetare perkundrazi krishterimi eshte i vetmi besim qe mbron denjesisht traditat kombetare. Eshte ateizmi i cili i shtin disa shqiptare te prostituojne vajzat shqiptare, eshte islami i cili i shtin disa shqiptare te derdhin gjak per llogari te grupeve terroriste. Per kete qe feja e shqiptarit nuk eshte shqiptaria por krishterimi sepse kjo 'shqiptaria' sipas komunizmit eshte ateizem dhe vrasje e patrioteve me te shquar te cilet ne shumicen e rasteve ishin te krishtere. Kur sulmohet Bibla nga disa ateiste dhe myslimane nuk thoni 'mos beni percarje' por vetem nese kritikohet feja e evolucionit dhe Islami atehere fillojne ligjeratat per patriotizem. Po miliona amerikane te krishtere a po ju pengojka krishterimi qe te jene patriote apo vetem shqiptareve po u pengojka krishterimi.
Feja e shqiptarit eshte shqiptaria. Une jam me kete thenie nese perdoret per te mos bere percarje kombetare. Nese ma thua per ta perkrahur ateizmin vallai i pari do te jem kundra saj pasi ateizmi ska te beje asgje me shqiptarine pasi ateizmi shkatrron identitetin kombetar e nuk e forcon ate.

Ska te beje asgje se ku kemi lindur ne qytet apo fshat. Ke njeri qe ka lindur ne qytet a ne anen tjeter ta shkoq shtetin duke e vjedhur e ne tjetren ane ke fshatar qe kontribuon per shtet, komb e shoqeri keshtu qe ska te beje asgje kjo se ku eshte lindur ai njeri.

[mesia4ever]

Ku e dine nje krisht i Pavlit se cfare eshte Islam dhe musliman !? Juve krishtave te shqiperise duhet ta mesoni fene tuaj nga 100 versionet e biblave qe i keni , pastaj qe te mund ta kuptoni cka eshte islam e musliman .

Anetari Ceni (nuk) e din qe ne shqip thuhet Pali por ( qellimisht) i thote Pavlli (Pavlle - ne serbisht) per ta pershkruar gjithcka qe lidhet me krishterimin si dicka te huaj, se krishterimi kinse eshte fe e serbeve dhe grekeve ndersa Muhamedi dhe te tjeret kur u shkrua Kurani ishin shqiptare. Te njejten llogjike te semure e ndjekin edhe disa ateiste sepse mendojne se Darvini u lind ne mes te Shqiperise. O zoteri ke kritike kunder Korcarit apo ndaj meje atehere si urdhero kritiko por mos na fol neve ketu serbisht sepse ketu eshte forum shqiptar. Sju kam thene kot se e keni politiken e Milloshit.... por jo e keni te kote sepse keto propaganda ju biejne poshte me shpejtesi te kometave...

Pyetje per keta: Ku eshte lindur Jezusi i Nazaretit? Ku eshte lindur Muhamedi? Ku eshte lindur Carlls Darvini? Po Marksi.
Shtrojani kete pyetje vetes.

[Sayan2003]

Anetari Ceni (nuk) e din qe ne shqip thuhet Pali por ( qellimisht) i thote Pavlli (Pavlle - ne serbisht) per ta pershkruar gjithcka qe lidhet me krishterimin si dicka te huaj, se krishterimi kinse eshte fe e serbeve dhe grekeve ndersa Muhamedi dhe te tjeret kur u shkrua Kurani ishin shqiptare. Te njejten llogjike te semure e ndjekin edhe disa ateiste sepse mendojne se Darvini u lind ne mes te Shqiperise. O zoteri ke kritike kunder Korcarit apo ndaj meje atehere si urdhero kritiko por mos na fol neve ketu serbisht sepse ketu eshte forum shqiptar. Sju kam thene kot se e keni politiken e Milloshit.... por jo e keni te kote sepse keto propaganda ju biejne poshte me shpejtesi te kometave...

Pyetje per keta: Ku eshte lindur Jezusi i Nazaretit? Ku eshte lindur Muhamedi? Ku eshte lindur Carlls Darvini? Po Marksi.
Shtrojani kete pyetje vetes.

Si ka mundsi qe se ke var veten akoma n'litar ti mesia? Kom nigju qe ju deshmitart e jehovait per ta pershpejtu proceduren e t'shkumes n'parajs hypni n'maj t'pemes dhe frrap shkoni per lesh.

[Sayan2003]

Ky kastraveci me nofka te filmve vizatimore ma ka keqperdore nje thenie timen ku kam thene se nuk behesh i krishter vetem se lindesh ne nje familje ortodokse, protestante apo katolike. Edhe pse jam ankuar tek moderatoret per kete ata skane marre asnje mase ndaj tij. Nuk jam anti mysliman dhe nuk kam kurrfare problemi me myslimane dhe as me ateiste. Distancohem nga cdo lloj ekstremizmi pa marre parasyshe se nga vjen.

Kshu t'ka msu xhejzusi me i thon robve kastravec? Ja ku e ke postimim tat , hapi syt ;

http://www.forumishqiptar.com/thread...=1#post3717241

Shiko postimin 79.

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Si ka mundsi qe se ke var veten akoma n'litar ti mesia? Kom nigju qe ju deshmitart e jehovait per ta pershpejtu proceduren e t'shkumes n'parajs hypni n'maj t'pemes dhe frrap shkoni per lesh.

Vallai nuk do te bej vetevrasje por do te jetoj me besim te forte ne Zot dhe ne Bibel aq sa kam ymer, plus do te punoj per shtet e per drejtesi e kunder genjeshtrave qe po na shiten neve si shqiptare. Dhe a e din perse, vetem per inati te disa ateisteve dhe islamiqave si ti.

Cka eshte shqiptaria per ty: fe apo komb?! Besimi ne Zot nuk ben percarje, babai im eshte sekularist evolucionist, nena ime myslimane, por une nuk u them atyre 'feja e shqiptarit eshte shqiptaria' por i ftoj ne krishterim.
kastravec je kur i keqperdore disa postime te mia dhe merr vargje nga Bibla dhe i keqperdore me qellim.

te them kastravec sepse ashtu je kur i keqperdore dhe ben padrejtesi me postimet e mia.

[King Bardhyl]

Feja e shqiptarit eshte shqiptaria. Kjo thenie e Pashko Vases eshte keqperdorur nga sistemi komunisto ateist per te perkrahur kinse patriotizmin por ne fakt eshte perdorur qe shqiptaret t'i lene ne ateizmin injorant. Kjo thenie eshte thene ne kontekst te asaj kohe. Kete thenie thuaja disa myslimaneve dhe ateisteve sepse te krishteret nuk bejne percarje kombetare perkundrazi krishterimi eshte i vetmi besim qe mbron denjesisht traditat kombetare. Eshte ateizmi i cili i shtin disa shqiptare te prostituojne vajzat shqiptare, eshte islami i cili i shtin disa shqiptare te derdhin gjak per llogari te grupeve terroriste. Per kete qe feja e shqiptarit nuk eshte shqiptaria por krishterimi sepse kjo 'shqiptaria' sipas komunizmit eshte ateizem dhe vrasje e patrioteve me te shquar te cilet ne shumicen e rasteve ishin te krishtere. Kur sulmohet Bibla nga disa ateiste dhe myslimane nuk thoni 'mos beni percarje' por vetem nese kritikohet feja e evolucionit dhe Islami atehere fillojne ligjeratat per patriotizem. Po miliona amerikane te krishtere a po ju pengojka krishterimi qe te jene patriote apo vetem shqiptareve po u pengojka krishterimi.
Feja e shqiptarit eshte shqiptaria. Une jam me kete thenie nese perdoret per te mos bere percarje kombetare. Nese ma thua per ta perkrahur ateizmin vallai i pari do te jem kundra saj pasi ateizmi ska te beje asgje me shqiptarine pasi ateizmi shkatrron identitetin kombetar e nuk e forcon ate.

Ska te beje asgje se ku kemi lindur ne qytet apo fshat. Ke njeri qe ka lindur ne qytet a ne anen tjeter ta shkoq shtetin duke e vjedhur e ne tjetren ane ke fshatar qe kontribuon per shtet, komb e shoqeri keshtu qe ska te beje asgje kjo se ku eshte lindur ai njeri.

Personalisht nuk kam asgje kunder besimeve fetare monoteiste, katolik, ortodoks, mysliman, bektashi. Perkundrazi, une mendoj qe nje njeri qe beson realisht ne Zot eshte nje shqiptar dhe qytetar i mire. Gjithashtu nuk kam gje edhe me ata qe jane ateist. Une vet jam nga nje familje myslimane. Besoj se jam i qarte ne kete pike.
Problemi qendron se shpesh gjate historise te huajte e kane perdorur fene per ti percare shqiptaret dhe njerezit e fese jane kthyer ne vegla te te huajve, dhe ky eshte fakt historik. Dhe ketu duhet qe te theksojme rolin negativ te Turqise, Greqise dhe Serbise. Si ne rastin e myslimaneve ashtu edhe ne rastin e ortodokseve. Kjo nuk i perjashton nga pergjegjesia edhe katoliket, kane edhe ata gjynahet e tyre. Per kete arsye Vaso Pasha i shkroi ato vargje dhe nuk eshte nevoja qe te ngaterrojme Vaso Pashen me komunizmin. Eshte e nevojshme qe te sjell ketu raste se si kisha ortodokse nen kontrollin e grekeve ka vrare shume patriote te krishtere? Apo se si Otomanet i vrisnin dhe internonin patriotet myslimane shqiptare? Keto jane fakte historike. Problemi eshte se cfare mardhenie keni ju dhe te tjeret ketu me historine si shkence, cilat jane njohurite tuaja.
Per kete arsye une besoj qe nje shqiptar duhet te falet fillimisht te altari i Atdheut dhe pastaj te altari i fese ku beson. Ne menyre qe te mos duket si demagogji, po ta ilustroj postimin me nje material i cili eshte ne anglisht. Ketu i ke edhe grekun edhe turkun, bashke.

THE ALBANIANS

Of all their vague political aspirations and obscure strivings nothing seems to have been known save the one damning fact that they had risen to protest against the reforms. It
has been their fate to hide their virtues under an alias, and to commit only their crimes and errors in their own name.
Whether as Christians or as Moslems their lot has been to win laurels for other races. How much of the great legend of the Greek War of Independence would remain if the share which the Christian Albanians had in it were subtracted ? When one thinks of that various struggle, sometimes savage, sometimes heroic, two chapters emerge which have specially seized the imagination of Europe — the wars of Suli against Ali Pasha, and the exploits of the seamen of Hydra against the Turkish navy. Both the Suliotes and Hydriotes were Albanians in blood, language, and customs. They were "Greeks" only in the sense that the Vlachs are " Greeks " — they belonged to the Orthodox Church, and if any of them possessed any culture at all, it was Greek culture. The Suliotes were a predatory tribe, rather better organised and more homogeneous than most Albanian septs, and their manners had not been softened by their nominal Christianity. The Hydriotes were simply pirates.

KORITZA AND THE LANGUAGE MOVEMENT
There is an air almost European about the town of Koritza.
The energy and virility of the Albanian character seem somehow to have found a half-expression. Yet a Greek Bishop and a Turkish Pasha, aliens both of them, still claim the allegiance of the town, though confronted by a spirit of the soil which both dread and both persecute — a spirit that is busily knitting a new people together, in spite of all their efforts.
If the secret thought in the august hearts of these twoofficials could be bared to the world, it would deserve to rankamong the rarest curiosities of officialdom. They have onemaster passion, the Bishop and the Pasha, and when they have finished praying for each other's destruction in their daily secret devotions, i suspect that a fervent little clause in Greek and in Turkish is addressed in much the same phraseology to Allah and the Trinity. And that is a prayer for the destruction of a spelling-book. They look upon that spelling-book much as Zeus regarded the torches of Prometheus. The end of the Turkish Empire is somehow predestined in the cabalistic symbols of its alphabet, and its little reading lessons in words of one syllable are like to be more fatal to the Greek Church than all the tractates of the heretics. I saw it once, and turned its pages with timid care, as one might handle a torpedo. It was locked in a glass case in the sacred precincts of the American Protestant School of Koritza, where it sheltered safely on foreign soil under the shadow of treaties and capitulations. I had just been paying a formal call on the Bishop, who had explained to me how, ever since he had been Secretary to the Ecumenical Patriarch, his hard-won leisure had been spent in ceaseless efforts to promote a union between the Anglican and the Greek Church. In business hours he had sterner work. He occupied himself in excommunicating the parents of all the children who dared to attend the Protestant school where that spelling-book is harboured. It seemed an odd way of promoting the union of Protestantism and Orthodoxy. As for the Pasha, he had lately sent the chief of police to hunt for seditious books, and only a peremptory telegram from one of the consulates in Monastir had availed to save the alphabet.
The history of that spelling-book is the record of the one hopeful movement which gives a promise of enlightenment to the Albania of the future.
There were no doubt schools in such centres as Jannina, Berat, Koritza, and Elbasan, but i they belonged to the Orthodox Church, and their whole ( instruction was in Greek). They taught the young Albanian that he was a Greek, that he must speak Greek, and that his mother-tongue was only a nursery dialect for children, or a barbarous patois for " Turks." As for the Muslims, school hardly entered into their notions. The Turkish conceptionof a school was a place where little boys squatted upon the ground, and recited the Koran by heart.
The knowledge of Greek letters was at no time rare in Southern Albania, but none the less the Albanians remained illiterate, isolated, and untaught. The few who went to the Greek Gymnasia in Koritza or Jannina, or to the University of Athens became, to all purposes, Greeks. But the bulk of the Albanian people had no intention of denationalized itself, and its patriotism in consequence was quite untainted by letters.
It was not until the second quarter of the seventeenth century that any Albanian developed the odd wish to use his language for literary purposes. The first pioneers seem to have come from among the Catholic clergy. Their record in this matter compares favourably with that of their Orthodox brethren, for whom the terms " Greek ' and "Christian" seem to have been synonymous. The first Albanian book that was ever printed was an " Imitatio Christi," published in Venice in 1626.A Catholic Bishop of Uskub, by name Bogdanes, did much for the language. He used the Latin alphabet, and a few copies of his works are still extant. He had a more enterprising successor
towards the end of the eighteenth century, an Orthodox teacher named Theodore, who lived in Elbasan. He was the first pioneer to attempt a serious study of the language, and his "Lexicon Tetraglosson " (Latin, Greek, Vlach, Albanian) displays a real originality, since it claims for Albanian a place among the languages of Europe.
Clearly Theodore was a Pioneer born out of due time. It was a dangerous thing in those days to play with letters in Albania. Some fifty years later another Southern Albanian, Naum Veqilharxhi , took up Theodore's task, and worked out
mother alphabet. It made some progress in the districts around Koritza, and a few little booklets were printed in it. But by this time the jealousies of the Greek clergy were aroused, and it is generally believed among albanian patriots that Naoum, who was so reckless as to mitrust himself during an illness to the Greek hospital at Constantinople, was poisoned by order of the Patriarch. I repeat the story because it is interesting to note that the efforts of the Albanians to throw the ignorance of the centuries had already roused the hostility of the Orthodox Church. As yet the movement was in its infancy, and could be checked by the untimely deaths of its leaders.

Meanwhile the Catholic clergy in the North were by no means idle. The Jesuits issued a number of books, mostly, however, legends of the Saints, which can have had no particular educative value. A religious periodical was also published by them in Scutari. The happiest event for the Albanian language was the translation of the Bible by Constantine Christophorides (whose intellect has been quickened by an intimate association with the scholarly traveller. Von Hahn), under the auspices of the
British and Foreign Bible Society.
It was issued at first in two alphabets, more or less modified to suit the peculiar phonetics of the Albanian language in Greek characters for the South, in Latin for the North. These early editions, however, found small favour, but between the years 1877-9 a Committee of Albanian patriots, most of them moslems, sat in Constantinople and elaborated yet another alphabet, mainly Latin, with an admixture of Greek characters. This was at length adopted by the Bible Society, and their Albanian colporteurs were set to work to sell it. They are to this day persecuted alike by the Greek Church and by the Turks. Every journey they undertake is an adventure. Their families are boycotted and excommunicated by the Orthodox priesthood they themselves are frequently imprisoned by the Turks. The work of the Constantinople Commission soon attracted the notice of the Turkish Government, and it had perforce to remove itself to a free centre. It settled in Bucharest and established a printing press of its own, from which about fifty books have been issued, including a Grammar, a Life of Skanderbeg, a popular history of Albania, and a number of translations. Albanian periodicals are issued in Bucharest, in Sofia, in Rome, and in London, but comparatively few copies find their way into Turkey.
To keep Albania savage and ignorant is a fundamental principle of Abdul Hamid's statescraft. Macedonia is covered with schools which disseminate the views of every conceivable racial propaganda. There are Greek schools to Hellenise Vlachs and Slavs and Albanians. There are Bulgarian schools which maintain the schism within the Orthodox Church. There are Servian schools to split the Slav element. There are Roumanian schools to detach the Vlachs from the Hellenic interest. On all of these the Porte smiles with an indifferent and capricious favour. The more schools there are and the more propagandas, the less fear is there of a coalition among the Christians against he Turkish yoke. For all of these there is a contemptuous tolerance. They are part of the hereditary Ottoman tradition of dividing to conquer. But Albanian schools fall under a very different category. In them the Turks have seen a force making not for discord, but for unity. The Albanians, divided in religion, have only their language in common, and in the cult of that language lies the hope of the reunion of Moslem and Christian. The Albanian movement, nationalist like all the others, differed from them in seeking its rallying-point not in a religious but in a secular propaganda.

Though the earlier pioneers were all Christians, their work was never partisan, and they readily won the patronage and the sympathy of the Muslim aristocracy.
That is doubtless why the " Young Turkish" Liberal movement, ineffective and innocuous though it is, is persecuted more severely than any Bulgarian conspiracy. In the case of the Albanians there were additional reasons at work. They are a military people whose revolt would be as formidable as their loyalty is valuable. Their country is difficult and inaccessible, and therefore it seemed wise to check the first signs of particularism, since an armed rising would be peculiarly difficult to subdue.
Indeed, the surprising thing is that Albanian schools ever came to be established at all. In 1884, however, the Albanian Society, which was busied in publishing its booklets and periodicals in Bucharest, contrived to open a secondary school for boys in Koritza. It had on an average about sixty pupils, who came from both Moslem and Christian families, while the teachers belonged to the Orthodox rite. Its success among the Christians, however, was limited, because from the first it was subjected to the systematic persecution of the Greek clergy. The reading of anathemas against it soon became a regular part of the ritual in the Greek cathedral. Its teachers were steadily boycotted. But even these methods proved ineffective, and ultimately the Greeks found it necessary to denounce the two principal Albanian teachers as traitors who were conspiring against the Sultan. Their efforts went unheeded for some years, since the war of 1897 had left the whole Greek race under a cloud. But in 1902 the teachers, two brothers named Naoum and Leonidas Natcha, were arrested, and still languish untried
in prison. The school, as i saw it, is a wrecked and dismantled shell, its garden overgrown with weeds, and its class-rooms littered with the stones which the apostles of Hellenism and culture cast through its broken windows as they go arrogantly by. Another interesting experiment still survives in a maimed form. In 1889 an Albanian Protestant School for girls and young boys was started under the auspices of the American Mission by Mr. Gerassimo Kyrias, an able and devoted man who did much in a short life for his language and the cause. Like so many of the pioneers of the movement, he came to an untimely end. He was captured by brigands, and dragged about by them for the best part of a year, while his friends collected an exorbitant ransom. The exposure, the privation, and the wanton cruelty to which he was subjected during this experience practically killed him, and he died soon after his release. The school is carried on by his sister, a graduate of Robert College. For four years it thrived and was much patronised by the Moslem gentry of Koritza. But its success in due course aroused the suspicions of the authorities. It would never do to allow the next generation of the Mohamedan aristocracy to be brought up by mothers who had imbibed the idea of patriotism with a knowledge of their own tongue. It was given out that the father of any Mohamedan child attending the school would be sent immediately, and without trial, into lifelong exile.

Too many had gone that road before now a hapless poet whosewhole crime was to have published a version of the legend of Genevieve in the proscribed Albanian language, and again a generous and tolerant hey who had assisted the Koritza schools. The threat proved effective, and only the Christian scholars remained. With them the Greek clergy knew how to deal. There were the usual anathemas, excommunications, and boycotts, and in 1904 when I visited Koritza, Miss Kyrias found her pupils reduced to about twenty boarders, some of them Protestants, and most of them members of families whose homes lie beyond the immediate influence of the Bishop of Koritza. Her teaching is carried on as though it were a furtive and shameful practice, and her school, centre of high influences, model of order and sweetness and goodwill, would be more readily tolerated if it were a nest of vice and crime. At any moment the chief of police may come clanking into the courtyard, and more than once the brave woman who works there alone and unprotected has stood in her doorway and dared him to execute his threat of confiscating her books.

There are also the Catholic schools in the North, conducted by the Jesuits in Scutari, and one or two other of the larger Gheg centres. The Catholic clergy has done much for the Albanian language, but it conducts its schools on a definitely religious basis, which deprives them of any influence upon the Mohamedans, who form, after all, two- thirds of the population. They owe their immunity to the fact that they are under Austrian protection.
The same organisation which founded the Albanian boys' school in Koritza, opened schools at Pogradetz and in the Colonia district, but these also were closed mainly through the jealousy of the Greeks.
On the coast there are secular Italian schools at Durazzo and Vallona, which have also had their share of persecution.
The fears of the Turks and the jealousies of the Greeks have worked their will upon the Albanian movement so far as any external organisation goes. They have destroyed the machinery of propaganda, and left it a cult of the heart which depends on the devotion of individuals. It has neither schools nor churches nor committees. There are Albanian societies no doubt in Romanian, in Italy, and Egypt, more or less active and more or less independent. But they have no branches in Albania.
Under the joint persecution of the Church and the State, the cult of the Albanian language has deepened and broadened into a patriotic movement at once nationalist and democratic.

Persecution has strengthened their fibre, and the spiritual stimulus of this preoccupation about an idea has enlarged their mental horizon, softened their manners, and raised them to a moral level where self- discipline and disinterested devotion alike become possible. In this cult of letters and language lies the best pledge for the future of Albania. Thanks to the folly of Greeks and Turks, it is already laying the foundation of her inde- pendence, and, at the same time, of her civilisation. When, in the fulness of time, an Albanian prince takes his seat on the throne of Skanderbeg, he will swear his fealty to the enlightened constitution of the youngest of European kingdoms neither on Bible nor Koran. He will take his oath, if he be wise, on the Albanian spelling-book.

Source:
Macedonia; its races and their future ([1906])
Author: Brailsford, Henry Noel, 1873-1958
https://archive.org/details/macedoniaitsrace00braiuoft

Kush ishte Henry Noel Brailsford:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._N._Brailsford

[Sayan2003]

Vallai nuk do te bej vetevrasje por do te jetoj me besim te forte ne Zot dhe ne Bibel aq sa kam ymer, plus do te punoj per shtet e per drejtesi e kunder genjeshtrave qe po na shiten neve si shqiptare. Dhe a e din perse, vetem per inati te disa ateisteve dhe islamiqave si ti.

Cka eshte shqiptaria per ty: fe apo komb?! Besimi ne Zot nuk ben percarje, babai im eshte sekularist evolucionist, nena ime myslimane, por une nuk u them atyre 'feja e shqiptarit eshte shqiptaria' por i ftoj ne krishterim.
kastravec je kur i keqperdore disa postime te mia dhe merr vargje nga Bibla dhe i keqperdore me qellim.

te them kastravec sepse ashtu je kur i keqperdore dhe ben padrejtesi me postimet e mia.

Mashallah per nonen tate. Allahu e rujt dhe e boft prej xhenetlive. Amin!

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[dielli1]

..arabija saudite,sulmon jemenin me avion.Ka te vdekur civil e edhe te plagosur.Irani kunder veprimeve ushtarake arabeske,islami paqe,apo nenshtrim hahahah...