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    i/e regjistruar Maska e klajdi wolf
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    Nuk e pashe videon se nuk ia vlen sepse sa e sa dokumentari eshte dhene edhe per 21 dhjetorin .. majat ,apokalipsi etj etj keto dokumentare jane thjesht perfitime mediatike !
    Te besohet qe Vatikani mbajti fshehur eksplorimet e shkencetare musliman per 1000 vite dhe pas 1000 viteve i shfaqen keto dije per zhvillimin e Evropes nderkohe lindja muslimane sot e kesaj dite eshte per faqe te zeze eshte idiotesi dhe ende me idiotesi eshte qe nuk mirret parasysh fakti qe muslimanet nuk jane zhdukur para 1000 viteve por jetojne ende(dhe ende jane shumice analfabetesh) ... nuk e di veq mire e ka pas Ajshtajni ,budallakia e njerezve ska kufi !
    Gjithe ato gjera jane mbajtur fshehte eshte me se normale kur ata dogjen biblioteken e Palermos thoshin toka eshte e sheshte dhe nuk rrotullohet sipas shkrimeve te tyre.
    Ti se di se si iluministet si Volteri,Gete etj kane studiuar nga doreshkrimet arabe ne Andaluzi.
    Karta e Medines eshte e para qe tregon per pluralizmin.

    Ja nje lajm i keq per ty.

    Ata duan ta shuajnė dritėn e All-llahut me gojėt e tyre, po All-llahu e plotėson (e pėrhap) dritėn e vet, edhe pse e urrejnė jobesimtarėt.(Saf:8)

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  2. #22
    i/e regjistruar Maska e Pa_doreza2
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    A e pe te kryqezatat si Mbreti Zemer Luan i Anglise vrau musliman te pafajshem ne Jerusalem pa meshire dhe Saladini ua fali jeten frankeve dhe ua i la te iknin.
    Duhet te mesosh per biblioteken e Palermos se si e dogjen kishtaret dhe dogjen shkencetaret:Xhordano Bruno,Galileo.
    Lexo ketu, se shifet zgjuarsia e shtetve Arabe !!!!

    http://heimatlobby.wordpress.com/201...ohammed-islam/
    S’ēarmatosem sa t’jetė jeta!

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    Paēavurja e rradhes prej harapeve qe do te ndjehen gjithmone inferiore ndaj Evropianeve!!
    Pse gjithe ajo dituri qe paska mbajtur fshehur nga kisha dhe perendimi, nuk shkelqeu ne boten harape apo ne Perandorine osmane, apo edhe atje e komandonte papa??!!

    Sa per dijenine e "mendjendriturve" islamike, asgje nuk kane zbuluar harapet, pa dashur t'u heq meriten e trasmetimit te shume dijeve me origjine indiane apo persiane!!
    Nje shembull i thjeshte per pavleftesine e kesaj paēavureje eshte ai i thjerezes, qe gjoja "dijataret" myslimane i paskan zbuluar vetine zmadhuese, ndersa Neroni e perdorte normalisht per te korrigjuar shikimin!!!
    Or qorr e ka bo RTL programin e jo Aljazira . Pupupu o mush forumi me kokrra katnaresh.

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    Gjithe ato gjera jane mbajtur fshehte eshte me se normale kur ata dogjen biblioteken e Palermos thoshin toka eshte e sheshte dhe nuk rrotullohet sipas shkrimeve te tyre.
    Ti se di se si iluministet si Volteri,Gete etj kane studiuar nga doreshkrimet arabe ne Andaluzi.
    Karta e Medines eshte e para qe tregon per pluralizmin.

    Ja nje lajm i keq per ty.

    Ata duan ta shuajnė dritėn e All-llahut me gojėt e tyre, po All-llahu e plotėson (e pėrhap) dritėn e vet, edhe pse e urrejnė jobesimtarėt.(Saf:8)

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    Iluminist ishin edhe shkencetaret e Andaluzise por jeni aq te verbuar sa nuk shihni dot ,ja ckan menduar per fete e profetet keta shkencetaret "musliman":


    Abū Bakr Muhammad ibn Zakarīya al-Rāzi (865-925):
    On Religion: Al-Razi wrote three books dealing with religion: (1) The Prophet's Fraudulent Tricks, (2) The Stratagems of Those Who Claim to Be Prophets (Arabic حيل المتنبيين), and (3) On the Refutation of Revealed Religions (Arabic مخارق الانبياء). He offered harsh criticism concerning religions, in particular those religions that claim to have been revealed by prophetic experiences.

    About God’s messenger, al-Razi continued, “On what ground do you deem it necessary that God should single out certain individuals [by giving them prophecy], that he should set them up above other people, that he should appoint them to be the people’s guides, and make people dependent upon them?” Al-Razi argued that, “it would be illogical for God to reveal himself only to a selected few. God should not set some individuals over others, and there should be between them neither rivalry nor disagreement which would bring them to perdition.” Concerning the link between violence and religion, Al-Razi expressed that “God must have known, considering the many disagreements between different religions, that "there would be a universal disaster and they would perish in the mutual hostilities and fighting. Indeed, many people have perished in this way, as we can see. etj etj

    Avicena or Ibn Sina (973-1037):

    “Avicenna's philosophy was based on a combination of Aristotelianism and Neoplatonism. Contrary to orthodox Islamic thought, Avicenna denied personal immortality, God's interest in individuals, and the creation of the world in time. He was holding philosophy superior to theology. In his commentary on theology, he dealt with God, creation, and angels etc. and many of his views on them stood in clear contradiction with their conception in the Islamic theology. He rejected the central Islamic doctrine of resurrection of the dead in flesh and blood. Ibn-Sina had also thoroughly rejected religions, including Islam, as lies. However, as Ibn Sina himself hailed from Khurasan, one cannot dismiss the possible influences of Buddhism, Zoroastrianism and Hinduism on his philosophy. Because of his views, Avicenna became the main target of an attack on such philosophy by the Islamic philosopher al-Ghazali and was even called “apostate.”

    Al-Ma'arri, (973-1057):
    “Religion are noxious weeds and fable invented by the ancients, worthless except for those who exploit the credulous masses.”

    “Hanifs ( Muslims) are stumbling, Christians all astray
    Jews wildered, Magians far on error's way.
    We mortals are composed of two great schools
    Enlightened knaves or else religious fools.”

    Ma’arri’s contempt of all religions and their prophets were expressed as:

    "Do not suppose the statements of the prophets to be true. Men lived comfortably till they came and spoiled life. The "sacred books" are only such a set of idle tales as any age could have and indeed did actually produce." etj etj
    Omar Khayyam (1048-1122):
    The following poem from his famous Rubayyat, will clearly highlight his mindset about his love of freethinking rational Greek philosophy against blind-faith theological Islamic doctrines:

    "If Madrasahs of those drunks
    Became the educational institutes
    Of teaching philosophy of
    Epicures, Plato and Aristotle;
    If Abode and Mazars of Peer and Dervish
    Is turned into research institutes,
    If men instead of following blind faith of religion
    Should have cultivated ethics,
    If the abode of worships were turned into
    Centers of learning of all academic activities,
    If instead of studying religion, men
    Would have devoted to develop mathematics - algebra,
    If logic of science would have occupied the place of
    Sufism, faith and superstition,
    Religion that divides human beings
    Would have replaced by humanism…
    Then world would have turned into haven,
    The world on other side then would have extinguished
    The world would then become full of
    Love-affection-freedom-joy,
    And there is no doubt about it."

    Ibn Rushd (1126-1198):

    He considered Aristotle as ‘the Prefect Man’. He wrote extensive commentaries on Aristotle and earned the epithet of “The Commentator”. “He expounded the Quran in Aristotelian terms. In many of his works, he also tried to mediate between philosophy and religion
    Religious leaders did not always praise his works; he was condemned for heresy by the Christian, the Jewish and the Islamic orthodoxy and his works were frequently banished and burnt.”etj etj
    Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi (780-850):
    His Algebra was the first book on the systematic solution of linear and quadratic equations. Consequently he was considered father of algebra, a title he shares with Diophantus. Latin translations of his Arithmetic, on the Indian numerals, introduced the decimal positional number system to the Western world in the 12th century. He revised and updated Ptolemy’s Geography as well as writing several works on astronomy and astrology. His contributions not only made a great impact on mathematics, but on language as well.

    Most of the positional base 10 numeral systems in the world have originated from India which first developed the concept of positional numerology. The Indian numeral system is commonly referred to the West as Hindu-Arabic numeral system, since it reached Europe through the Arabs.

    History of Algebra: The Chinese, the Persians, and the people of India used algebra thousands of years ago. The Babylonians, Egyptians, and Greeks contributed to the early development of algebra. Al-Khwarizmi a teacher in the mathematical school in Baghdad, collected and improved the advances in algebra of previous Hindu and Arab scholars. His works included the translation of Greek and Sanskrit scientific manuscript.

    According to the historian al-Tabari—al-khwarizmi was an adherent of the old Zoroastrian religion. Others considered him as orthodox Muslim. Nevertheless, al-Khwarizmi never indicated that he was influenced by religiosity or he received any scientific theory out of Koran or hadiths.

    Al-Biruni (973-1048):
    He was the first Muslim scholar to study about India and the Brahminical tradition and has been described as the father of Indology.

    In Islamic theology, al-Beruni assigned to the Qur’an a separate and autonomous realm of its own and held that the Qur’an dose not interferes in the business of science nor does it infringe on the realm of science.
    e shume e shume te tjere

    Mos te te vie keq per mua por per vehten qe nuk arrini te zgjoheni dot e te kuptoni qe sundon boten ai qe ka "kalemin" e kete muslimanet nuk e zoterojne dot dhe per me teper pak ka gjase edhe ne nje te ardhme te larget ta zoterojne (me keto mend qe i kane), "shpresa" e vetme e juaja vazhdon te jete ENDERRIMI !

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    i/e regjistruar Maska e klajdi wolf
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    Iluminist ishin edhe shkencetaret e Andaluzise por jeni aq te verbuar sa nuk shihni dot ,ja ckan menduar per fete e profetet keta shkencetaret "musliman":

    In Islamic theology, al-Beruni assigned to the Qur’an a separate and autonomous realm of its own and held that the Qur’an dose not interferes in the business of science nor does it infringe on the realm of science.
    e shume e shume te tjere

    Mos te te vie keq per mua por per vehten qe nuk arrini te zgjoheni dot e te kuptoni qe sundon boten ai qe ka "kalemin" e kete muslimanet nuk e zoterojne dot dhe per me teper pak ka gjase edhe ne nje te ardhme te larget ta zoterojne (me keto mend qe i kane), "shpresa" e vetme e juaja vazhdon te jete ENDERRIMI !
    Lere se c'ka thone keta qe kane lene islamin,muslimanet kane ngelur te prapambetur per shkak te largimit nga islami.

    Degjo kete iluministin dhe jo keta lloj njerezish qe nuk kuptojne.

    Edhe Johan V.Gete.

    "ēmenduri, secili nė rastin e vet
    Mendimin e tij tė veēantė lėvdon!
    Nėse Islam do tė thotė nėnshtrim ndaj Zotit
    Ne jetojmė dhe vdesim nė Islam."
    "Dhe, kėshtu, na duhet tė qėndrojmė brenda Islamit (d.m.th.: nė
    nėshtrim tė plotė ndaj vullnetit tė Zotit)"
    "Mė tepėr nuk kam ē'tė them, pėrveē asaj se, edhe kėtu, unė pėrpiqem
    tė qėndroj nė Islam."
    "Kėtu askush nuk mund tė kėshillojė njeri; secili duhet tė vendosė
    vetė, se ēfarė duhet tė bėjė. Ne tė gjithė jetojmė nė Islam,
    pavarėsisht nga forma qė zgjedhim pėr tė inkurajuar vetveten."
    "Mbėshtetet nė ēdo pikėpamje tė arsyeshme fetare dhe ėshtė nė
    Islam, tė cilin ne, herėt a vonė, tė gjithė duhet ta pranojmė."
    "Feja Muhammedane jep shembullin mė tė mirė pėr kėtė."
    "Ju e shihni se, kėtij sistemi, nuk i mungon asgjė dhe se ne, me
    gjithė sistemet tona, nuk jemi aspak mė tė pėrparuar, madje askush
    nuk mund tė shkojė mė pėrpara. Ky sistem filozofik ėshtė njė masė e
    shkėlqyer, tė cilėn njeriu mund ta aplikojė tek vetvetja dhe tek tė
    tjerėt, pėr tė mėsuar se nė ē'nivel tė virtytit shpirtėror jemi."
    "Efesi pėr shumė vjet,
    Nderon mėsimin e profetit
    Jezus. (Paqja qoftė mbi tė Mirin!)"
    "Besimi nė njė Zot tė vetėm ėshtė gjithmonė i efektshėm pėr ngritje
    shpirtėrore, sepse ai tregon pėr njeriun, njėshmėrinė brenda vetes."
    "Herėt a vonė, duhet tė pranojmė Islamin, sepse ai pajtohet me
    arsyen."
    "Nėse Islami ėshtė bindje ndaj Zotit, atėherė, tė gjithė (lindim)
    jetojmė dhe vdesim nė Islam."
    "Ėshtė shumė e ēuditshme se si muslimanėt fillojnė t'i edukojnė
    fėmijėt e tyre. Ata e kalisin rininė e tyre, qė nė fillim, me
    bindjen se asgjė s'mund t'i godasė veē asaj qė ia ka pėrcaktuar mė
    parė Zoti, i Cili udhėheq nė gjithēka dhe nė ēdo gjė. Kėshtu, ata
    janė tė pėrgatitur gjatė gjithė jetės sė tyre dhe pajtohen me fatin,
    dhe nuk ju duhet pothuajse asgjė tjetėr. E shihni, kėtij mėsimi nuk
    i mungon asgjė. Me gjithė sistemet tona edukative, ne nuk kemi
    shkuar aspak mė tej, madje askush nuk ka mundėsi tė shkojė mė tej."

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    i/e regjistruar Maska e klajdi wolf
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    In Islamic theology, al-Beruni assigned to the Qur’an a separate and autonomous realm of its own and held that the Qur’an dose not interferes in the business of science nor does it infringe on the realm of science.
    e shume e shume te tjere
    Prof. Sir Hamilton A. R. Gibb, ka jetuar nga viti 1895 deri mė 1967.
    Konsiderohet prijės i orientalistėve anglezė. Ka qenė prof. i gjuhės arabe, nė Universitetin e Londrės, mė 1930 dhe prof. nė Universitetin e Oksfordit, qė nga viti 1937. Mė poshtė, po citojmė disa fjalė tė tij:
    “Mirėpo, mekasit kėrkonin nga ai mrekulli. Me vendosmėri dhe vetėmohim, qė lė mbresė tė thellė, Muhammedi a.s. iu referua vetė Kur’anit, si verifikimin mė tė lartė tė misionit tė tij. Si edhe tė gjithė arabėt, edhe mekasit, ishin njohės tė mirė tė gjuhės dhe oratorisė. Pra, Kur’ani, sikur tė ishte vepėr e Muhammedit a.s., atėherė, edhe njerėzit e tjerė do tė garonin me tė.
    Le tė formojnė vetėm dhjetė vargje, qė do tė ishin tė ngjashėm me vargjet e Kur’anit. Nėse nuk ia kanė dalė dhe as qė do t’ia dalin, atėherė Kur’anin duhet ta pranojnė pėr mrekulli tė jashtėzakonshme.“[22]
    “Nėse dikush mendon se, insistimi i Kur’anit, pėr vepra tė mira ėshtė i
    pamjaftueshėm, bindjen e tij tė gabuar e flakim, me argument tė pakontestueshėm, duke i sjellur definimin e plotė tė mirėsisė, nė kėtė ajet madhėshtor: “Nuk ėshtė bamirėsi (devotshmėri) tė ktheni fytyrat tuaja kah lindja dhe perėndimi, por devotshmėri ėshtė ajo e atij, qė i beson Allahut dhe Ditės sė Fundit, edhe engjėjve, edhe librave, edhe pejgamberėve, ndėrsa nga pasuria, pėrkundėr dashurisė qė ka, u jep tė afėrmve dhe bonjakėve, edhe tė varfėrve, edhe udhėtarėve edhe lypėsve, edhe pėr lirimin e skllevėrve, dhe qė kryejnė faljen dhe japin zeqatin, edhe qė obligimin e vet, kur e marrin e zbatojnė, si dhe ata qė janė tė durueshėm nė skamje, edhe nė sėmundje, edhe nė tė papritura. Ata janė, qė kanė qenė tė sinqertė dhe vetėm ata janė tė devotshėm. (El Bekarah, 177)
    Mirėsia, pra, ėshtė kurora e besimit tė vėrtetė. Nė fund, kur besimtari kupton se Allahu ėshtė dėshmitar i pėrhershėm, i pėrgjigjet me mendime dhe vepra.
    Nė realitet, Kur’ani s’mund tė pėrkthehet nė mėnyrė fundamentale, sikurse ėshtė rasti i pėrkthimit tė poezisė me stil tė lartė. Nuk mund tė shprehet pėrmbajtja e fshehtė e Kur’anit, nėpėrmjet gjuhės sė thjeshtė. Nuk mund tė ilustrohen pamjet dhe shembujt e tij, sepse ēdo lidhje, metaforė ose pėrsosmėri gjuhėsore e Kur’anit, duhet tė studiohet gjatė, qė tė arrijė kuptimi i plotė tek lexuesi. Kur’ani gjithashtu ka muzikalitetin, ėmbėlsinė dhe bukurinė e vet. Struktura e pėrsosur nuk mund tė pėrcaktohet, por ai me ndikimin e tij magjepsės, i pėrgatit mendimet e personit, i cili e dėgjon Kur’anin qė tė pranojė mėsimet e tij. Prandaj, s’ka dyshim se pėrkthimi, nė njė gjuhė tjetėr, e deformon Kur’anin dhe e shndėrron atė, sikurse shndėrrohet ari nė thėngjill


    Meso nga keta dijetare.

    Will Durant, autor bashkėkohor amerikan. Libri i tij “Historia e civilizimit”, i shkruar nė tridhjetė vėllime, konsiderohet si njėri ndėr librat mė tė njohur, i cili flet mbi historinė e civilizimit njerėzor. Nė vėll. 13. f. 68, 69, ai shkruan:
    “Kur’ani, qysh prej katėrmbėdhjetė shekujsh, vazhdon tė mėsohet pėrmendėsh dhe tė ruhet nė mbamendjen e muslimanėve, duke ua ndriēuar imagjinatėn dhe duke fisnikėruar moralin e miliona e miliona njerėzve.
    Kur’ani ka meritėn mė tė madhe pėr ngritjen e nivelit kulturor dhe moral tė muslimanėve dhe ėshtė libėr, qė tek ata ka konstituar rregullat bazė tė sistemit shoqėror dhe tė unitetit tė bashkėsisė njerėzore. Ai i nxit ata tė pasojnė principe tė shėndosha dhe ua pastron trurin nga njė mori besėtytnish e iluzionesh, madje dhe nga dhuna dhe vrazhdėsia. Ai avancoi pozitėn e skllevėrve, kurse nė zemrėn e tė diskriminuarve, skaliti krenarinė dhe fisnikėrinė. Tek muslimanėt ngriti ndjenjėn e maturisė dhe tė largimit nga pasionet, shembull ky, qė s’mund tė haset nė asnjė vend tė rruzullit tė populluar nga raca e bardhė njerėzore.
    Islami i mėson njerėzit tė ballafaqohen me provokimet dhe sfidat e jetės, t`i durojnė ato me gjakftohtėsi dhe pa iu kundėrvėnė fatkeqėsive qė sjell jeta. Parimisht, ai kėrkon nga besimtarėt zemėrgjerėsinė, e cila paraqet veēorinė mė fascionuese tė muslimanėve, qė e mban mend ndonjėherė historia. Ai e ka definuar fenė dhe i ka caktuar nė mėnyrė precize kufijtė e saj, sa qė asnjė i krishterė apo hebre, nuk do tė gjejė nė tė argument, qė do tė mund ta pengonte pėr ta pranuar atė


    H. G. Wels“
    Evropianėt, qė janė marrė me shqyrtimin e detajeve dhe hollėsive tė Kur’anit, janė fare tė paktė. Ata, nga kjo mosnjohje, i pėrshkruajnė atij shumė tė pavėrteta e tė paqena. Nxitja e muslimanėve nė pėrpunimin e pasurive tė nėntokės dhe metaleve, nė zhvillimin e inxhinierisė, astronomisė, arkitekturės, arteve tė bukura dhe filozofisė ishte rezultat i Kur’anit. Ai i bashkoi dhe bėri qė ata tė arrijnė suksese nė fushėn e dijes dhe shkencės.

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    i/e regjistruar Maska e klajdi wolf
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    Citim Postuar mė parė nga ane Lexo Postimin
    His Algebra was the first book on the systematic solution of linear and quadratic equations. Consequently he was considered father of algebra, a title he shares with Diophantus. Latin translations of his Arithmetic, on the Indian numerals, introduced the decimal positional number system to the Western world in the 12th century. He revised and updated Ptolemy’s Geography as well as writing several works on astronomy and astrology. His contributions not only made a great impact on mathematics, but on language as well.

    Most of the positional base 10 numeral systems in the world have originated from India which first developed the concept of positional numerology. The Indian numeral system is commonly referred to the West as Hindu-Arabic numeral system, since it reached Europe through the Arabs.

    History of Algebra: The Chinese, the Persians, and the people of India used algebra thousands of years ago. The Babylonians, Egyptians, and Greeks contributed to the early development of algebra. Al-Khwarizmi a teacher in the mathematical school in Baghdad, collected and improved the advances in algebra of previous Hindu and Arab scholars. His works included the translation of Greek and Sanskrit scientific manuscript.

    According to the historian al-Tabari—al-khwarizmi was an adherent of the old Zoroastrian religion. Others considered him as orthodox Muslim. Nevertheless, al-Khwarizmi never indicated that he was influenced by religiosity or he received any scientific theory out of Koran or hadiths.

    Al-Biruni (973-1048):
    He was the first Muslim scholar to study about India and the Brahminical tradition and has been described as the father of Indology.

    In Islamic theology, al-Beruni assigned to the Qur’an a separate and autonomous realm of its own and held that the Qur’an dose not interferes in the business of science nor does it infringe on the realm of science.
    e shume e shume te tjere
    algjebra e nivelit te trete gjithe matematicienet e botes (pervec teje si shkencertare e nivelit te larte boterore) e pranojne gjithe se muslimanet e ngriten ne kete nivel te njohjes se algjebres, normal pervec teje dhe ketij qe ka shkruajtur kete.
    Ibn sina ( avicena ) cfar beni permendorja e tij ne institutin shkencor franco-gjerman ne frankurt ? a edhe gjermanet dhe francezet jane ne nivel me poshte se ky qe permedi ti me siper, tamam, duke mare parasysh nivelin e larte shkencor te ketij personi,sa dy kombe europiane. keni te drejte.

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    Lere se c'ka thone keta qe kane lene islamin,muslimanet kane ngelur te prapambetur per shkak te largimit nga islami.

    Degjo kete iluministin dhe jo keta lloj njerezish qe nuk kuptojne.

    Edhe Johan V.Gete.

    "ēmenduri, secili nė rastin e vet
    Mendimin e tij tė veēantė lėvdon!
    Nėse Islam do tė thotė nėnshtrim ndaj Zotit
    Ne jetojmė dhe vdesim nė Islam."
    "Dhe, kėshtu, na duhet tė qėndrojmė brenda Islamit (d.m.th.: nė
    nėshtrim tė plotė ndaj vullnetit tė Zotit)"
    "Mė tepėr nuk kam ē'tė them, pėrveē asaj se, edhe kėtu, unė pėrpiqem
    tė qėndroj nė Islam."
    "Kėtu askush nuk mund tė kėshillojė njeri; secili duhet tė vendosė
    vetė, se ēfarė duhet tė bėjė. Ne tė gjithė jetojmė nė Islam,
    pavarėsisht nga forma qė zgjedhim pėr tė inkurajuar vetveten."
    "Mbėshtetet nė ēdo pikėpamje tė arsyeshme fetare dhe ėshtė nė
    Islam, tė cilin ne, herėt a vonė, tė gjithė duhet ta pranojmė."
    "Feja Muhammedane jep shembullin mė tė mirė pėr kėtė."
    "Ju e shihni se, kėtij sistemi, nuk i mungon asgjė dhe se ne, me
    gjithė sistemet tona, nuk jemi aspak mė tė pėrparuar, madje askush
    nuk mund tė shkojė mė pėrpara. Ky sistem filozofik ėshtė njė masė e
    shkėlqyer, tė cilėn njeriu mund ta aplikojė tek vetvetja dhe tek tė
    tjerėt, pėr tė mėsuar se nė ē'nivel tė virtytit shpirtėror jemi."
    "Efesi pėr shumė vjet,
    Nderon mėsimin e profetit
    Jezus. (Paqja qoftė mbi tė Mirin!)"
    "Besimi nė njė Zot tė vetėm ėshtė gjithmonė i efektshėm pėr ngritje
    shpirtėrore, sepse ai tregon pėr njeriun, njėshmėrinė brenda vetes."
    "Herėt a vonė, duhet tė pranojmė Islamin, sepse ai pajtohet me
    arsyen."
    "Nėse Islami ėshtė bindje ndaj Zotit, atėherė, tė gjithė (lindim)
    jetojmė dhe vdesim nė Islam."
    "Ėshtė shumė e ēuditshme se si muslimanėt fillojnė t'i edukojnė
    fėmijėt e tyre. Ata e kalisin rininė e tyre, qė nė fillim, me
    bindjen se asgjė s'mund t'i godasė veē asaj qė ia ka pėrcaktuar mė
    parė Zoti, i Cili udhėheq nė gjithēka dhe nė ēdo gjė. Kėshtu, ata
    janė tė pėrgatitur gjatė gjithė jetės sė tyre dhe pajtohen me fatin,
    dhe nuk ju duhet pothuajse asgjė tjetėr. E shihni, kėtij mėsimi nuk
    i mungon asgjė. Me gjithė sistemet tona edukative, ne nuk kemi
    shkuar aspak mė tej, madje askush nuk ka mundėsi tė shkojė mė tej."
    Si ti le keta shkencetaret "musliman" .. fundja nuk behet fjale pikerisht per te arriturat e po ketyre shkencetareve?!!
    Mendimi i Getes qenka me i rendesishem se mendimi i po ketyre shkencetareve (qe ju nga injoranca krenoheni!!!!
    Ja mendimin e kujt e ke sjell ,te nje pasuesi te nje sekti PAGAN HEBRAIK:

    …I have found no confession of faith to which I could ally myself without reservation. Now in my old age, however, I have learned of a sect, the Hypsistarians, who, hemmed in between heathens, Jews and Christians, declared that they would treasure, admire, and honour the best, the most perfect that might come to their knowledge, and in as much as it must have a close connection to the Godhead, pay it reverence. A joyous light thus beamed at me suddenly out of a dark age, for I had the feeling that all my life I had been aspiring to qualify as a Hypsistarian. That, however, is no small task, for how does one, in the limitations of one's individuality, come to know what is most excellent?

    — from a letter to Sulpiz Boisserée dated 22 March 1831

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    Revolucioni ėshtė afėr Maska e Nuh Musa
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    Vendndodhja
    vjenė, austri
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    Paēavurja e rradhes prej harapeve qe do te ndjehen gjithmone inferiore ndaj Evropianeve!!
    Pse gjithe ajo dituri qe paska mbajtur fshehur nga kisha dhe perendimi, nuk shkelqeu ne boten harape apo ne Perandorine osmane, apo edhe atje e komandonte papa??!!

    Sa per dijenine e "mendjendriturve" islamike, asgje nuk kane zbuluar harapet, pa dashur t'u heq meriten e trasmetimit te shume dijeve me origjine indiane apo persiane!!
    Nje shembull i thjeshte per pavleftesine e kesaj paēavureje eshte ai i thjerezes, qe gjoja "dijataret" myslimane i paskan zbuluar vetine zmadhuese, ndersa Neroni e perdorte normalisht per te korrigjuar shikimin!!!
    Nuk do mend, por vetem DITURI, per me e kuptuar, se DITURIA E EUROPES NE TERRESI, ka kaluar neper duart e muslimaneve. Kjo, jo vetem ne aspektin teknik, por edhe ne ate praktik, nga i vetmi fakt, se KOJSHIA i pare i europes eshte bota muslimane. Natyrisht, ajo ashtu kaloj edhe neper popujt musliman, por ne kemi kurajo, kemi dinjitet, kemi NDERE, meritat e te huajve ti repsektojm, dhe te jemi FALEMNDERUES ndaj tyre.....muslimani HAKUN nuk ja ka hanger edhe ARMIKUT ME TE MADH......

    Europa gjeti kojshillek nga shek i 15 edhe me popujt e dy amerikave, por perpos KOMPIRAVE dhe KALLOMOCIT, nuk te solli nga atje asgje....oooh, se harova, te ka sjelle nje KALENDARE, qe pasneser e "parasheh" qametin....pra ke kohe edhe disa dite me u KTHY ne fene e babes e nenes.....nese e ke haru shehadetin, ta perkujtoj, vetem pyet....

    tungi
    albanish by nature

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    i/e regjistruar
    Anėtarėsuar
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    algjebra e nivelit te trete gjithe matematicienet e botes (pervec teje si shkencertare e nivelit te larte boterore) e pranojne gjithe se muslimanet e ngriten ne kete nivel te njohjes se algjebres, normal pervec teje dhe ketij qe ka shkruajtur kete.
    Ibn sina ( avicena ) cfar beni permendorja e tij ne institutin shkencor franco-gjerman ne frankurt ? a edhe gjermanet dhe francezet jane ne nivel me poshte se ky qe permedi ti me siper, tamam, duke mare parasysh nivelin e larte shkencor te ketij personi,sa dy kombe europiane. keni te drejte.
    Oj melaqe une se mohova kontributin e tij por te sjella ate qe ai

    Ai ka menduar per islamin tend

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