Fundi i Enigmes pellazge-etruske

[Kreksi]

.NA JEMI ILIR,me mija mija vjet,mirepo duhet kupetue se jemi Pellazge,PSE ?..

A ianë shkrua këto tekste në argjil nga pellazgët apo dikush tjetër, për ne nuk ka rëndesi shumë... kjo dëshmon se gjuha shqipe shkruhej dhe flitej para 3300 viteve !... e ky është ARGUMENTI nr 1 se ëdhe ne jemi po ai popull qe fliste këtë gjuhën shqipe që e flasim edhe sot brez pas brezi..
Lexoji ketu; jam munduar ti deshifroj më pakê dije qê kam por mendoj se dijetaret tanê duhet ti hyjnê kêsaj detyre;

LINEAR B: 1300 para krishti !

1) di-pa me-zo-e e ti-ri-o-we-e.
=çipa me tri vegë= ?
2) di-pa me-zoe qe-to-ro-we.
=çipa me kater vegë=qetoro= ( ndoshta fjalë skite/ greke.. ?) =katër..
3) di-pa me-wi-jo qe-to-ro-we.
=çypa me vija kater vegësh= ?
4) di-pa me-wi-jo ti-ri-jo-we.
=çypa me vija tri vegësh= ?...këtu jam i sigurt pa dyshim se bëhet fjalë për vegsha ose vaze =pa vija= pa dekorim...që ne disa tabletta tjera quhen =vace=se ndoshta barteshin nga vajzat per te shkuar te burimi ...?
5) di-pa me-wi-jo a-no-we
=çypa me vija anave= ?

P.S; mendoj se =dy-pa= duhet të jetë qypa...kuptohet se pas mija vitësh gjuha shqipe ka evolua..
Presim edhe nderhyrjen tuaj, kjo është vetem se njê tentim deshifrimi imi... shendet.

Pse të hyhet sot ne tema koti që ti mbrojmi pellazgët kur asgjë nuk dihet per ta, e têra mjegull, sa vijnê nga fenicija, sa nga Anatolia, kurse kêtu është e shkrueme në argjil, nuk ka fallcifikime këtu, se ato fjalê që janê skife/greke ne këto tableta, krejte pakë..tri kater fjalë, . kuptohet se jane fjalë te huaja ...ndoshta te huazuara përmes tregëtije...kryesorja janê 99% shqip dhe paster..ku e shihni se është e dëmshme kjo dëhmi, nuk e kuptoj....

[ikthus]

]Scythian languages ( /ˈsɪθiən/ or /ˈsɪðiən/) refers to all the languages spoken by all the peoples of a vast region of Eurasia named Scythia extending from the Vistula river in East Europe to Sakastan and Mongolia in Central Asia during ancient times. Included also are some languages of eastern Iran and the Central Asian subcontinent. These peoples were at some time by some ancient authors designated as "Scythians" with the form of the name customarily known to them. Languages of many different groups and families must have been spoken by the Scythians. Their modes of subsistence varied from sedentary and agricultural to nomadic and pastoral. They were both warriors and merchants.
The dominant ethnic groups among the Scythians, however, were nomadic pastoralists of Central Asia and the Pontic-Caspian steppe. Fragments of their speech known from inscriptions and words quoted in ancient authors as well as analysis of their names indicate that it was of the Indo-European language family, was Indo-Iranian, Iranian and most specifically Eastern Iranian. Further classification is uncertain and elusive. Alexander Lubotsky summarizes the known linguistic landscape as follows:[1]
“ Unfortunately, we know next to nothing about the Scythian of that period [Old Iranian] – we have only a couple of personal and tribal names in Greek and Persian sources at our disposal – and cannot even determine with any degree of certainty whether it was a single language.


Ndersa ti Kreks fillove edhe te interpretosh emervendet e shqiperise me ane te skite-ishtes sic ishte Kanina dmth u bere edhe specialist i saj,ja ku e ke.

Me vje keq Kanina se kanina= vjenë nga =kamena=gurishte.. e gurit..nga skite/ greke e lashtë ose sllave bullgare

[kutje]

]Scythian languages ( /ˈsɪθiən/ or /ˈsɪðiən/) refers to all the languages spoken by all the peoples of a vast region of Eurasia named Scythia extending from the Vistula river in East Europe to Sakastan and Mongolia in Central Asia during ancient times. Included also are some languages of eastern Iran and the Central Asian subcontinent. These peoples were at some time by some ancient authors designated as "Scythians" with the form of the name customarily known to them. Languages of many different groups and families must have been spoken by the Scythians. Their modes of subsistence varied from sedentary and agricultural to nomadic and pastoral. They were both warriors and merchants.
The dominant ethnic groups among the Scythians, however, were nomadic pastoralists of Central Asia and the Pontic-Caspian steppe. Fragments of their speech known from inscriptions and words quoted in ancient authors as well as analysis of their names indicate that it was of the Indo-European language family, was Indo-Iranian, Iranian and most specifically Eastern Iranian. Further classification is uncertain and elusive. Alexander Lubotsky summarizes the known linguistic landscape as follows:[1]
“ Unfortunately, we know next to nothing about the Scythian of that period [Old Iranian] – we have only a couple of personal and tribal names in Greek and Persian sources at our disposal – and cannot even determine with any degree of certainty whether it was a single language.


Ndersa ti Kreks fillove edhe te interpretosh emervendet e shqiperise me ane te skite-ishtes sic ishte Kanina dmth u bere edhe specialist i saj,ja ku e ke.

Ky ashte REALITETI.populli iranian,populli armen,populli sllav,populli kurd,ketu krejte jane se bashku ,dhe normale historia ska qka me lype ketu,perveq PROPAGANDA.Text shume I KJART ose shume i PASTER ata qe kupetojne histori dhe gjuhe.

[kutje]

Polonia,cekia,ukraina rusia e bardhe,nuke kane histori vendet jashte kesaj vije jan quejtun SARMAT,dhe pik.keshtu ne te gjitha hartat e vjetra.kure fole per skythie,per iran irak armenie georgie azerbejgjansirie keto ja shtete te aziz,ato shtete nuke kane lidhje me europen.BILE TRAJANI JA U NDERTOI MURIN ,mose me hyne ne iliri.se e ka dite qfare populli jane.shtetet pa histori hungaria,rumunia bullgaria,turkia greqia(vjedhje historin shqietare)Keta nuke kane dite qka ashte letra,e le ma guri,iliret kane shkrue ne guri e jo ne tjegulla argjili.populli ma i perzin i botes ashte kjo pjes e ,dhe rusia ja tejkalon amerikes me perzirje rasash.Skythia ashte ne azi,dhe nuke ka lidhje me europen e vjeter.

[Bajraku]

DOSJA: origjina Pellazgjike; nga erdhen, kush ishin Pellazgët ?
http://www.forumishqiptar.com/showthread.php?t=140627

[Kreksi]

[QUOTE=ikthus;3414503]] Ne po flasim në këtê tem për njê kohê te lashtê para krishti gati 3000 vite para krishti, nese e lexove ENIGMA nga Robert D'Angely aty i gjeni skitet dhe e lexoni teorin e tij, perkundrazi une e kundershtoj këtë teori !

Mirëpo nuk ke patur nevoj te kerkosh tekste ne anglishte i ke patur edhe ne gjuhen shqipe. Problemi ështê se ne nuk po kuptohemi padyshim se do sqarohemi por nuk k pse te nxitohesh.

"But that the Pelasgi were Scythae appears from this, that they certainly descended from the north-east into Greece; and the Scythae spread over all these parts. For we find settlements of the Pelasgi on the Hellespont: and in Thessaly, a country to the north-east of Greece, a large country was specially called Pelasgia in the days of Homer, and lar later. The language and manners of the whole of Hellas, from Thrace to the Ionian Sea, were Thracian, Scythic, Getic, Gothic. No ancient writer hints any diversity of speech, save as to refinement, between Peloponnesus, Attica, Epirus, Thessaly, Macedon, Thrace. Prom all these proofs, it is as clear as so remote a subject can be, that the Pelasgi, the ancestors of the Greeks, afterwards called Hellenes from a small tribe of the Pelasgi who were the last that came in, were at first settled in Macedon and Thessaly: that they were Thracians: that the Thracians were Scythae, Getae, or Goths."
Jamieson's argument in favour of the identity hased upon a new interpretation of Herodotus's statement.—In the above quotation I have given the substance of the argument employed by the ingenious but very irritable author of the Dissertation on the Goths, in support of his notion that the Pelasgians were not only Scythians, but that they were not, in lineage, language, or religion, different from the Hellenes, or from any of the more ancient inhabitants of Greece. "

[Kreksi]

....and the means of regular intercourse between the mother nation and the Pelasgian colonies in Thrace and Achaia, undertakes to account for the loss of their language and the extinction of their name, by a reference to a more modern case, which, in fact, presents hardly any one point of resemblance. The Greeks, says he, fermented into purity by foreign colonies, soon assumed quite a different character from their Scythian progenitors and neighbours,—a case which may even happen in ruder nations, as we know that the Danes, who came to Northumberland in the ninth century, were regarded as utter strangers and enemies by their own countrymen the Angli, who, in A. D. 547, had settled in that province.1 I need not occupy the time of the reader by pointing out the great difference between the supposed case of the Pelasgians, who continued to be neighbours to their countrymen, and the Danes, who for four centuries had been separated from their nation by a wide and stormy sea. A similar answer may be given to his remarks on the same subject elsewhere. Dr. Gillies had observed, that the colonies of the Pelasgi continued, in the fifth century before Christ, to inhabit the southern coast of Italy, and the shores of the Hellespont: and in those widely-separated countries, their ancient affinity was recognised in the uniformity of their rude dialect and barbarous manners"

Këtu e keni mundesin se si skitet u shendrruan nê grekë;
"The Scythian language could not have been refined into Greek.— Whence, too, arose that astonishing refinement which changed the Scythian language into Greek? It was produced, we are told, by the mixture of a little Phoenician; which, fermenting the mass of Scythic vocables, not only leavened the whole lump, but at once effected in it so complete an alteration as to render it quite foreign to those to whom it had a short time before been most familiar. The Scythic tongue was converted into Greek by a slight infusion of Phoenician! But, unfor"

[Kreksi]

The Scythian language could not have been refined into Greek.— Whence, too, arose that astonishing refinement which changed the Scythian language into Greek? It was produced, we are told, by the mixture of a little Phoenician; which, fermenting the mass of Scythic vocables, not only leavened the whole lump, but at once effected in it so complete an alteration as to render it quite foreign to those to whom it had a short time before been most familiar. The Scythic tongue was converted into Greek by a slight infusion of Phoenician! But, unfor

[Kreksi]

DOSJA: origjina Pellazgjike; nga erdhen, kush ishin Pellazgët ?
http://www.forumishqiptar.com/showthread.php?t=140627

Theory that the Pelasgio language was Phoenician confirmed by an observation of Diodorus.—That the Pelasgic language was Phoenician, is rendered very probable by an observation of Diodorus Siculus; who, speaking of the letters which had been brought from Phoenicia by Cadmus, remarks, that the poet Linus gave to each its name and character^ istic figure. Hence, adds the historian, these. letters were in general called Phoenician, because they were brought from the Phoenicians to the Greeks; but, in a more restricted sense, they were called Pelasgic, because the Pelasgians were the first who used them among the latter people.1 I know that a version very different from the above has been given by some writers, without much regard either to the meaning of the passage or to the consistency of the context. By one author Diodorus has been made to say that the Cadmean letters were called Phoenician, as being brought from that country; "but their proper letters, which the Pelasgi first used with the changed characters, were denominated Pelasgic." 2 The reader must have some inclination to ask who are the parties meant in this extract, in reference to whom it is said, "but their proper letters, which the Pelasgi first used, were denominated Pelasgic?" In the original there is no authority for these words.

[Kreksi]

Polonia,cekia,ukraina rusia e bardhe,nuke kane histori vendet jashte kesaj vije jan quejtun SARMAT,dhe pik.keshtu ne te gjitha hartat e vjetra.kure fole per skythie,per iran irak armenie georgie azerbejgjansirie keto ja shtete te aziz,ato shtete nuke kane lidhje me europen.BILE TRAJANI JA U NDERTOI MURIN ,mose me hyne ne iliri.se e ka dite qfare populli jane.shtetet pa histori hungaria,rumunia bullgaria,turkia greqia(vjedhje historin shqietare)Keta nuke kane dite qka ashte letra,e le ma guri,iliret kane shkrue ne guri e jo ne tjegulla argjili.populli ma i perzin i botes ashte kjo pjes e ,dhe rusia ja tejkalon amerikes me perzirje rasash.Skythia ashte ne azi,dhe nuke ka lidhje me europen e vjeter.

Mirepo problemi është se Akademin tonë e shkatrruam ne dhe tani secili hap teza jo jemi pelalzge jo skite, qe rezultati...kutje, ne po flasim per nje periudh te lashtê e ti permend Trjanin pas krishti..

Mr. Astle remarks, that "we learn from Sanchoniathon that the sons of the Dioscouri and Cabiri wrote the first anuals of the Phoenician history, by the command of Taaut, and being cast upon the coast near Mount Casius, about forty miles from Pelusium, they built a temple: this event happened in the second generation after the Deluge recorded by Moses. We learn from Herodotus, that the Pelasgi were the descendants of the Phoenician Cabiri, and that the Samothracians received and practised the Cabiric mysteries from the Pelasgi, who, in ancient times, inhabited Samothrace."