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[s0ni]

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[FreeByrd]

Freebyrd,

I agree you can outshoot us, we don't have so much choice of guns over there, we're stuck with the old soviet made kalashnikovs lol, but what you mentioned before does not disprove in any way shape or form the trend that US is taking. Not sure why they became obsessed with the welfare system of Europe(I hope that they will change their mind after the collapse over there). A well known political theorist in the east croat or czech or mixed not sure his ethnicity once said, "Communism failed in the east, because it was better implemented in the west". The US moved for good or bad into that direction after WW2, when politics became not "Political Science", but a field where science went out the window and it was replaced with "Behavioralism". This also reflects on the very poor foreign policy as US seems to apply the same kind of reasoning to areas in the middle east that they apply to themselves. No one gives a damn over there for Jerry Springer for example, and you can't export the guy. You can certainly export the iPads, but that's as far as it can go, and you will still need to tackle things seriously.

The problem with the commies and commie wannabes in US, the third generation(OWS) after the 60's hippies and the real hardcore commies of the 20's who bombed JP Morgan in dowtown Manhattan, is that contrary to the east, and especially Albanians, Croatians etc who were under that system, here people seriously believe in this madness. We had the system but no one believed in it. This is a huge critical difference.

I won't go into explaining the union seizure of US, and they will probably at this rate cause it's downfall, or what they did in the most radical communist state in US(Wisconsin) by taking over the Capitol Hill, which served as a starting point for the OWS nonsense, but again, back to the theme, Russia is being itself, and US needs to become itself too and abandon the dreams of globalism if it means that we should resemble more them to make this happen.

Hyllien, in these discussions you push me in a corner as if I was defending these "Reds". I consider the Marxists 10 times more dangerous to democracy and freedom than the half comical Jihadists. They truly are among us like a dormant virus. I just don't buy this Red scare business of our government drifting toward a hard line socialist state. You arguments may be sound and have merit but remember we are people with a legacy of defiance of government authority and control. The Tucker branch of my family made illegal moonshine whiskey for over a century defying the Federal Government of the United States and occasionally taking pot shots at "Revenuers"(Income tax agents). They were wild and free mountain people just like the Maltsors of Albania refusing to pay taxes to the Ottoman authorities. There's no way Americans would permit a Marxist government to cleverly sip into power and rule over them. As my grandmother would say "I'm ain't a'feared"

Their beef lies with the patriot act. I mostly heard these conversations at that time, quote unquote "we left communist and came to another communist country". Is it really necessary for the gov. to search what books you check out from library? How likely is it that future terrorist will walk into libraries for this info, not likely. Its mostly grandparents and their grandkids. But wait we have to be afraid of grandpa too. Guantanamo, you have children detained, children! Being afraid of anything and everything, that's communism to my parents. Just relaying things that were once said. I can't argue TV shows with the above although I tried arguing that its necessary and the ends justify the means. But even that didn't fly.

Okay now I'll get myself out of this topic

s0ni, go tell your parents if government agents ever come and take them away I'll be there banging on the jailhouse door. Behind me will be the ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union) and behind them CNN. And if that isn't enough to free innocent people from the excesses of the Patriot Act Ill go get the Tucker clan and we'll shoot them out of captivity. That's my Besa to you.

[Maqellarjot]

"THIS NEEDS TO GO VIRAL SO THAT AMERICANS CAN SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR COUNTRY!



Look what's happening in California!

SEIU... Obama's biggest supporters...




A May Day rally in Los Angeles, co-sponsored by the SEIU and various communist groups, as well as other unions, reflected yet another step in the normalization of self-identified communist and socialist ideologies in the Obama era. Not only did the SEIU help to organize the rally in conjunction with communists, they marched side-by-side with communists, while union members carried communist flags, communists carried union signs, and altogether there was no real way to tell the two apart. The communists freely and proudly declare their affiliation. And the SEIU has no problem marching arm-in-arm with them.


"Smash Capitalism" is a slogan the SEIU apparently endorses - or at least doesn't mind marching behind. In case you think the SEIU is some peripheral out-of-the-mainstream organization: The SEIU devoted $28 million to Obama's campaign, making the SEIU "the organization that spent the most to help Barack Obama get elected president." Furthermore, who is Obama's favorite White House guest and one of his closest confidants? The individual who has visited the Obama White House the most: SEIU President Andy Stern, who has visited 53 times. Obama is closely linked with the SEIU. The SEIU is closely linked with communists.

Did I say communists? Sorry, I meant Communists (with a capital "C"). Note how the Communists that day (like the women on the right in this photo) carried solid red flags symbolizing their ideology. Keep that in mind as you view the next photo...

The way you can identify the SEIU members in all these pictures: They're the ones in purple t-shirts carrying blue-and-yellow signs.

And, it wasn't just the SEIU at the march - other "normal" unions like the AFL-CIO were on hand as well. There were plenty of teachers' unions attending too, and they brought along many of their public school students for some good old-fashioned communist indoctrination.

Most of the idiots in the US who walk around with 'Che' buttons or 'Che' shirts do so simply because they foolishly think he's "cool." These hardcore communists carry his image not because he's "cool," but because he was one of the most radical revolutionaries who ever lived. Right up there with Lenin, apparently.






Until recently, the average American has regarded fascists and communists as equally noxious and equally malignant. As well they should have. But the drive these days by the left side of the spectrum is to make communism and socialism somewhat less remarkable and more palatable. For two years they angrily denied the Tea Party accusation that Obama's policies and supporters had a socialist bent. But in recent months, as the accusation had started to gain traction, the new leftist tactic has become:

"What's so bad about socialism after all? You're demonizing a very popular and respectable ideology!"

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Send this around the country!!!!!!..."


Nuk ma kishte marr mendja kurrre qe do te shikoja imazhe te tilla ne mes te dites ne Amerike!!!!! Te them te drejten Demonstrata te tilla nuk u trajtuan nga Media Televizive. Me aq sa kam pare une. Dicka e tille do te kishte bere buje ne vendin me Kapitalist ne Bote. Si duket e kan mbajtur "hush-hush"!

P.S JacobGold dhe sOni, faleminderit shume per ndihmen.

[Maqellarjot]

Fotografi tjeter nga demonstrata te ndryshme ne USA!

[Maqellarjot]

Ajo qe keta "parrullistat" nuk kuptojn eshte Fakti, me siguri matematike qe ne rastin me te pare "idhullat" e ketyre Idioteve, gjene me te pare qe do te benin eshte azgjesimi i elementit "protestues". Keta do te shkonin nji nga nji si cjapi tek kasapi!

Sisteme te tilla, gjithmone ngulin rrenje tek elementi injorant dhe naive!

[derjansi]

kto i kisha cu ne kore te veriut te jetojn per ni far kohe e ta shofin komunizmin

[Maqellarjot]

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[Hyllien]

FreeByrd,

From Roger Baldwin(one of the founders of ACLU) to You:

“I am for socialism, disarmament, and, ultimately, for abolishing the state itself... I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal.”

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FreeByrd,

Nga Roger Baldwin (një nga themeluesit e ACLU) për ju:

"" Unë jam për socializmin, çarmatimin, dhe, në fund të fundit, për heqjen e vetë shtetit ... Unë kërkojë pronësinë e pronës shoqërore, heqjen e klasës i kamur, dhe kontrollin vetëm të atyre që prodhojnë pasuri. Komunizmi është qëllimi . ""



Anyway.

[FreeByrd]

FreeByrd,

From Roger Baldwin(one of the founders of ACLU) to You:

“I am for socialism, disarmament, and, ultimately, for abolishing the state itself... I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal.”

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FreeByrd,

Nga Roger Baldwin (një nga themeluesit e ACLU) për ju:

"" Unë jam për socializmin, çarmatimin, dhe, në fund të fundit, për heqjen e vetë shtetit ... Unë kërkojë pronësinë e pronës shoqërore, heqjen e klasës i kamur, dhe kontrollin vetëm të atyre që prodhojnë pasuri. Komunizmi është qëllimi . ""



Anyway.

Hyllien, it's very disconcerting for an Albanian to introduce me to a part of American history I was not aware of.

My initial reaction to a founder of the ACLU being a proponent of Marxism was shock and confusion. The ACLU is the antithesis of Communism The organization is dedicated to the civil liberties which do not exist in China, Cuba, North Korea and other Communist countries. How could Baldwin live with such contradictions?

Thanks to you I had to go running off to Google to check out the story.

Can you believe it. Baldwin was lionized by American leaders from General Douglas McAurthur to President Jimmy Carter. It appears the man was forced by historical events and tyrants to alter his ideals.

Wikipedia

In 1927, he had visited the Soviet Union and wrote a book, Liberty Under the Soviets. Originally, at the beginning of the ACLU, he had said, "Communism, of course, is the goal." Later, however, as more and more information came out about Joseph Stalin's regime in the Soviet Union, Baldwin became more and more disillusioned with Soviet-style communism and called it "A NEW SLAVERY" (capitalized in the original).He condemned "the inhuman communist police state tyranny".In the 1940s, Baldwin led the campaign to purge the ACLU of Communist Party members.

In 1947, General Douglas MacArthur invited him to Japan to foster the growth of civil liberties in that country. In Japan, he founded the Japan Civil Liberties Union, and the Japanese government awarded him the Order of the Rising Sun. In 1948, Germany and Austria invited him for similar purposes. He was elected a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences in 1951.

President Jimmy Carter awarded Baldwin the Medal of Freedom on 16 January 1981.

I would vigorously debate Baldwin about his conversion to the religion of Marxism but I would shake his hand for his courage to publicly condemn the Communist dictators that imprisoned and murdered dissidents and banned civil liberties.

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Hyllien, është shumë alarmuese për një shqiptar për të futur mua në një pjesë të historisë amerikane nuk ishte në dijeni të.

Reagimi im i parë në një prej themeluesve të ACLU qenë një ithtar i Marksizmit ishte shoku dhe konfuzion.ACLU është antiteza e komunizmit organizatës është i përkushtuar për të drejtat civile të cilat nuk ekzistojnë në Kinë, Kubë, Koreja e Veriut dhe vende të tjera komuniste. Si mund të jetojë me Baldwin kontradikta të tilla?

Faleminderit për ju unë kam për të shkuar running off në Google për të kontrolluar nga histori.

A mund të besojnë atë. Baldwin u lionized nga udhëheqësit amerikanë të Përgjithshëm Douglas McAurthur të Presidentit Jimmy Carter. Duket se njeriu ishte i detyruar nga ngjarjet historike dhe tiranët për të ndryshuar idealet e tij.

[B] Wikipedia [/ B]

[I] Në vitin 1927, ai kishte vizituar Bashkimin Sovjetik dhe shkroi një libër Lirisë Sipas sovjetikët. Fillimisht, në fillim të ACLU, ai kishte thënë: "Komunizmi, natyrisht, është qëllimi." Më vonë, megjithatë, si më shumë informacion dhe më erdhi më shumë për regjimin Joseph Stalinit në Bashkimin Sovjetik, Baldwin [B] më shumë u bë dhe më i zhgënjyer me të stilit sovjetik komunizmit [/ B] dhe c [B] alled ai "Një SKLLAVËRISË RI [ / B] "(kapitalizuar në origjinal). [B] Ai dënoi" jonjerëzor shtetit komunist tirania e policisë "[/ B]. Në vitet 1940, [B] Baldwin udhëhoqi fushatën për spastrim ACLU e anëtarët e Partisë Komuniste. [ / B]

Në vitin 1947, [B] Përgjithshëm Douglas MacArthur ftoi atë në Japoni për të nxitur rritjen e civil [/ B] liritë në atë vend. Në Japoni, ai themeloi Civile Japoni Lirive Bashkimit, dhe qeveria japoneze dha atij Urdhrin e diellit në rritje. Në 1948, Gjermania dhe Austria e ftoi atë për qëllime të ngjashme. Ai u zgjodh anëtar i Akademisë Amerikane të Arteve dhe Shkencave në 1951.

Presidenti [B] Jimmy Carter i dha Baldwin Medaljen e Lirisë [/ B] më 16 janar 1981. [/ I]

Unë do të fuqishëm debatin rreth konvertimit të tij Baldwin në fenë e marksizmit, por unë do të shtrëngonte dorën e tij për guximin e tij për të dënuar publikisht diktatorët komuniste që burgosur dhe të vrarë disidentët dhe të ndaluara liritë civile.