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  1. #1
    Perjashtuar
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    Jemi qenie jashtetokesore!

    Shkencėtarėt kanė zbuluar prova qė mbėshtesin teorinė se pjesė tė ADN-sė tonė vinė nga thellėsitė e hapėsirės.

    Njerėzit kanė zbuluar pjesė tė ADN-sė nė meteorite qė nė vitin 1960, por shkencėtarėt duhej tė ishin tė sigurt nėse materiali vinte nga hapėsira apo ishte thjeshtė njė ndotje nga jeta tokėsore. Pėr herė tė parė, kemi provat se pjesė tė ADN-sė janė krijuar nė hapsirė.

    Lajmi vjen nga Dr. Michael Callahan, studiues nė NASA. Ai ėshtė drejtuesi i studimit tė publikuar me punėn e akademisė kombėtare tė shkencės nė Amerikė.

    Ekipi gjeti Adeninė dhe Guaninė nė meteoritė tė pasura me karbon qė vinin nga hapėsira. Kėto dy pėrbėrės janė dy nga katėr bazat qė formojnė acidin Dezoksiribonukleik (ADN). Dy tė tjerat janė Citozina dhe Timina. Bashkė tė katėr pėrbėrėsit janė baza e jetės nė tokė dhe me shumė mundėsi nė vende tė tjerė nė Univers.

    Ekipi i studiuesve arriti nė konkluzionin se dy bazat nuk ishin ndotje nga jeta nė tokė, duke qenė se ato ishin krijuar nė njė proces kimik jo-biologjik.

    Sipas studimit, i jepet suport teorisė se njė “kit” me pjesė tė gatshme, i krijuar nė hapėsirė, ėshtė dėrguar nė tokė me meteoritėt dhe ka sjellė si pasojė krijimin e jetės. Zbulimi implikon se blloqet e jetės, tė gatshėm, janė shpėrndarė nė gjithė universin dhe mund tė kenė krijuar jetėn edhe nė planetė tė tjerė.



    Burimi: Balkanweb.com

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    Perjashtuar
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    NASA Disavows Scientist Richard Hoover's Claim Of Alien Life

    Artikulli:
    WASHINGTON -- The gaps and stringy fibers in these space rocks sure look like bacteria, and a NASA researcher has caused a stir with claims that they're fossils of alien life. But as NASA found 15 years ago, looks can be deceiving.

    Top scientists in different disciplines immediately found pitfalls in a newly published examination of three meteorites that went viral on the Internet over the weekend. NASA and its top scientists disavowed the work by noon Monday.

    Biologists said just because it looks as though the holes were made by bacteria doesn't make them fossils of extraterrestrial microbes. The meteorites could be riddled with Earthly contamination. And both astronomers and biologists complained that the study was not truly reviewed by peers.

    There are questions about the credentials of the study's author, Richard Hoover. And the work appeared in an online journal that raises eyebrows because even its editor acknowledges it may have to shut down in June and that one reason for publishing the controversial claim was to help find a buyer.

    "There's a lot of stuff there, but not a lot of science," said Rosie Redfield, a microbiologist at the University of British Columbia, who publicly dissected the paper over the weekend. "I looked at it and shuddered."

    The Associated Press talked to a dozen scientists, and none of them agreed with the findings. There was none of the excitement that surrounded a similar claim that NASA announced with fanfare in 1996 – but was forced to back away from later – that a meteorite from Mars found in Antarctica showed evidence of alien life.

    "There has been no one in the scientific community, certainly no one in the meteorite analysis community, that has supported these conclusions," NASA Astrobiology Institute Director Carl Pilcher said Monday of the latest work.

    Hoover, of NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala., claims he found fossils that look like remnants of bacteria in a handful of meteorites. His research, published online Friday in the Journal of Cosmology, concludes these must have come from outer space. It is based on three specimens of a rare type of meteorite – thought to come from comets – found in France in 1806 and 1864 and Tanzania in 1938.

    Hoover's pictures look like microscopic versions of flattened tubes and tangled strings.




    Hoover didn't return phone calls or e-mails from the AP.

    Rudy Schild, a Harvard astronomer and editor-in-chief of the journal, said the study was reviewed by scientists, but he wouldn't identify them. Schild said the idea was to garner attention and generate debate, which happened after it was first reported over the weekend by FoxNews.com.

    "We thought the purpose of the exercise here is having it released and having it discussed," Schild told the AP. He acknowledged the journal's imminent demise was "a factor in play, but there are other factors as well" in the decision to publish Hoover's research.

    The year-and-a-half-old journal champions a disputed theory that life started elsewhere in the universe and was seeded on Earth by asteroids and comets.

    Schild said criticisms of Hoover's paper "are legitimate" but that he agrees with Hoover's conclusion.

    Other scientists say Hoover, who has worked for NASA in solar physics but now bills himself as an astrobiologist, doesn't have the proper expertise. "Anyone can call himself an astrobiologist. That doesn't make it so," said Pilcher, the astrobiology institute director.

    And while Hoover's paper in the journal lists him as a "Ph.D.," NASA's solar physics website does not mention a doctorate. A colleague of Hoover's said he acknowledges that he doesn't have the advanced degree. Schild said someone at the journal – he doesn't know who – may have inadvertently listed Hoover with the doctorate title.

    Top planetary scientists, including those who study meteorites, are at a conference in Houston this week and this was the talk – albeit mostly in a can-you-believe-this-stuff way, said Harry "Hap" McSween, one of world's foremost experts in meteorites.

    "I don't think anybody accepts this idea," McSween said. "Nobody thinks they are extraterrestrial."

    McSween has studied one of the meteorites cited – the one that fell to France in 1864. He said it was in "atrocious" condition at a Paris Museum with noticeable contamination. There was a vein in the rock that hadn't been there in old photographs, a sign of creeping moisture. That makes sense because even NASA moon rocks, hermitically stored, have been contaminated with Earthly microbes, he said.

    McSween and other scientists said they had hoped the public would ignore reports about the study, but they didn't. It was on the top of Yahoo News much of Monday.

    "It looks like it's kind of viral," McSween said. "It's extraterrestrial life, that's why."

    For biologist Redfield, it was just another case of a scientist who's not a biologist tinkering in a field he doesn't know.

    One of the first rules for biologists is just because one thing looks like another doesn't mean the two things are the same, she said.

    "These guys make some stupid announcement completely ignoring all the rules of biology and then get all the publicity," Redfield said.

    For McSween and Redfield it's deja vu. McSween criticized the 1996 discovery, which had been announced by then-President Bill Clinton on the White House south lawn. Over the years, scientist after scientist chipped away at the basis of that Mars meteorite finding and now it's not generally accepted as proof of alien life.

    And that study had stronger peer review and more supporting lines of evidence, Redfield and McSween said.

    Seth Shostak, an astronomer who searches for intelligent alien life, desperately wanted to believe the reports. But when he read the Hoover study, he ended up disappointed.

    "It looks very, very doubtful, which is a shame from several points of view," said Shostak, a senior scientist at the SETI Institute in California. "But that's the way science is. People make claims that often don't hold up. That's the nature of science."

  3. #3
    Perjashtuar
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    Po lexoj vec ego te vrara, asnje teori qe hedh poshte shkencerisht tezen e Hoover, sado e pasakte qe po trumbetohet te jete.

  4. #4
    Enraged Maska e Scion
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    Javan,
    Lajmin qe ke postuar ti, ka te beje me nje lajm te vitit 1996 kur u lajmerua per nje zbulim te ngjashem. Ndersa ky i fundit eshte i vertete, dhe i zyrtarizuar nga Nasa.

    Burimin e plote e ke me poshte,
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0808220659.htm

    me citim reference :

    NASA (2011, August 9). DNA building blocks can be made in space, NASA evidence

    Lajmi origjinal eshte edhe ne faqen zyrtare.

    http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2011...rites_DNA.html
    Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga Scion : 10-08-2011 mė 08:47
    What can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence

  5. #5
    Nė kėtė faqe mund tė gjeni tė plotė artikullin shkencor

    Richard B. Hoover, Ph.D. NASA/Marshall Space Flight Center
    Fossils of Cyanobacteria in CI1 Carbonaceous Meteorites

    http://journalofcosmology.com/Life100.html

    ndėrsa kėtu reagimin e NASA
    http://www.goddiscussion.com/41962/n...of-alien-life/

  6. #6
    Enraged Maska e Scion
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    Behet fjale per dy zbulime te ndryshme. Zbulimi i Hooverit (Muaji mars 2011) ka te beje me "pretendimin" se eshte gjetur fosil bakterie, ndersa zbulimi i dr. Callahan (Muaji gusht 2011) ka te beje me gjetjen e dy nga 4 komponentet kimik te ADN.
    What can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence

  7. #7
    Perjashtuar
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    Mire, mire, mire, ... Darvinizmi duket se po vdes.
    Kur do te vdesin teorite me Reptilianet e Icke???

  8. #8
    Sado te perpiqet mendja e kufizuar njerezore, perfundimi dihet, Zoti bijte e mi, Zoti.
    Paqe!

  9. #9
    OPENMINDED Maska e land
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    Citim Postuar mė parė nga G.D Lexo Postimin
    Mire, mire, mire, ... Darvinizmi duket se po vdes.
    Kur do te vdesin teorite me Reptilianet e Icke???
    si po vdes darwinizmi? evolucioni eshte i provuar.
    nje shembull i evolucionit te shpejte, viruset e gripit psh, behen vazhdimisht vaksina sepse virusi evoluon.

  10. #10
    OPENMINDED Maska e land
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    cdo virus dhe bakter ka adn e vet, duhet ta dish kete, besoj!

  11. #11
    Perjashtuar
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    Jo jo nuk e di kete!!! :P por di dicka tjeter dhe e di mire: darvinizmi dhe evolucioni nuk jane e njejta gje...dhe qe darvinizmi kurre nuk eshte provuar pa-kundershtueshmerisht!

  12. #12
    OPENMINDED Maska e land
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    aha ok, si te duash ti! lol

    po deshe te sjell dhjetra prova ty, por e kane bere te tjeret para meje tek tema e evolucionit.

  13. #13
    .................... Maska e iktuus
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    Po zoti nga cila perberje eshte formuar?
    Pergjigje:
    Mga dallaveret e prifterinjve dhe hoxhallarve, ky eshte motivi me i vlefshem qe duhet cituar.
    Ketu perfundon puna ime. Ndersa per materien dhe antimaterien shikoj dhe degjoj me vemendje te posacme njerzit qe kan baza te shendosha dhe argumenta te bazuara
    Dashuria, miqsia,respekti nuk formojn lidhje aq te forta sa nje urrejtje e perbashket

  14. #14
    I'm in love with an alien
    I'm in love with her eyes
    I'm in love with an alien
    I'm telling you not diguise (Kelly family)

    Citim Postuar mė parė nga G.D Lexo Postimin
    Kur do te vdesin teorite me Reptilianet e Icke???
    Nuk eshte i vetmi Icke qe ka trajtuar teorite mbi reptilet, jane edhe shume te tjere, dhe shume interesante do thoja. Icke mbase i trajton ne nje menyre psikopatike qe ta shpif.

    Edhe nese je skeptik ndaj ketyre teorive mbi reptile nga Icke, te pakten nese i referohemi historise se artit meksikan, ne fillimet e hershme te atij qytetrimi, duhet te dijsh qe zoti i tyre i shiut Tlalok, ne nje analize te detajuar qe mund t'i besh , rezulton se kishte formen e nje gjarpri. Dmth, zoti i shiut e i stuhise te atij populli, merrte trajten e nje demoni tmerresisht te fuqishem, sepse vetetima sipas tyre ne qiell - merrte trajten e nje gjarpri, dhe shihej si nje qenie e shenjte e plotfuqishme. Nese i analizojme mendesine e atij populli ne ate periudhe, keta idhuj misterioze ne trajten e gjarperinjve, nuk ishin te lidhur me fene dhe magjine, por ishte forma e tyre e te pamurit dhe gjykuarit. Gjarperi i shenjte, ne artin e lashte meksikan, nuk ishte thjesht shembellimi i nje gjarperi, por shihej edhe me tej, si nje simbol i fuqishem.

    Nuk eshte rastesi....po te lexosh edhe autore te tjere, do krijoje nje ide me shume...

  15. #15
    Besimtar Musliman Maska e strange
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    C'na keni qa b*then me keto shkrime anglisht. Sjellni dicka ne shqip o njerz se per anglisht eshte e mbushur googla kerkojme dhe vete po shqip sjellni dicka!!!
    Mėso Islamin nga Kur'ani e jo nga myslimanet!

  16. #16
    Perjashtuar
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    Citim Postuar mė parė nga Scion Lexo Postimin
    Javan,
    Lajmin qe ke postuar ti, ka te beje me nje lajm te vitit 1996 kur u lajmerua per nje zbulim te ngjashem. Ndersa ky i fundit eshte i vertete, dhe i zyrtarizuar nga Nasa.

    Burimin e plote e ke me poshte,
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0808220659.htm

    me citim reference :

    NASA (2011, August 9). DNA building blocks can be made in space, NASA evidence

    Lajmi origjinal eshte edhe ne faqen zyrtare.

    http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2011...rites_DNA.html
    Po sikur te jete Mars 2011?

    NASA Disavows Its Scientist's Claim of Alien Life

    +By SETH BORENSTEIN AP Science Writer
    WASHINGTON March 8, 2011 (AP)

    http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=13083514
    Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga javan : 11-08-2011 mė 16:51

  17. #17
    Sensual
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    Sic jane ata aliene , ashtu jemi dhe ne per ta .. Alienet e tokes

  18. #18
    Citim Postuar mė parė nga Kryqi i Paqes Lexo Postimin
    Sado te perpiqet mendja e kufizuar njerezore, perfundimi dihet, Zoti bijte e mi, Zoti.
    Nuk jemi nė forumin fetar, nėse nuk ke gjė nė lidhje me temėn, e di vetė ti...

  19. #19
    100 % shqiptar Maska e Milkway
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    Citim Postuar mė parė nga G.D Lexo Postimin
    Jo jo nuk e di kete!!! :P por di dicka tjeter dhe e di mire: darvinizmi dhe evolucioni nuk jane e njejta gje...dhe qe darvinizmi kurre nuk eshte provuar pa-kundershtueshmerisht!
    Nese kemi ardhe ne Toke si baktere , ateher si kemi ardhur deri ketu ??

  20. #20
    Citim Postuar mė parė nga javan Lexo Postimin
    Po sikur te jete Mars 2011?

    NASA Disavows Its Scientist's Claim of Alien Life

    +By SETH BORENSTEIN AP Science Writer
    WASHINGTON March 8, 2011 (AP)

    http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=13083514
    Edhe vetė kėta kritikėt janė konfuzė, disa thonė qė nuk janė fosile bakteresh, disa tė tjerė thonė qė meteoritėt janė kontaminuar me mikrobe tē Tokės.
    Javan, mė dėrgo tė lutem njė adresė email.

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