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  1. #61
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    Latest report nga norvegjia , live from bbc ---''the attacks don't appear to be to islamic terrorism''.

    Pra sy-leshat e sy-sypreshat edhe njehere dolen me lesh-presh ne goje nga gjithe kjo mesele.
    Jete njerezish iken kot se koti , e keta preokupoheshin se kujt grupacioni tja vinin damken e terrorizmit. Njerez te mefshte , idiota ne kulm , qe se keni haberin e jetes , por thjesht mbushni ajrin me frymerat e juaja parazit-prurese .
    Po mire ti pse je kaq i prekur ne seder, e ndjen gje veten terrorist islamik?
    Ata bijte e botes jihadistet e moren persiper qe e kishin bere ata sulmin, ti ofendohesh.

    Me beri pershtypje dikush ketu siper qe tha kete rradhe s'ka qene sulm islamik, prisni sa te dali e verteta. Shume i mireinformuar paska qene.

  2. #62
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    Ky sulm me shume i perngjane sulmit ne Oklahoma City.
    Nderkaq nje zot e di se pse e moren persiper nje organizate islamiste kete sulm.Ose nga qejfi i madh qe kane pasur per vrasjet.
    Ja cfare shkruan Associated Press.

    OSLO, Norway (AP) -- A home-grown terrorist set off an explosion that ripped open buildings in the heart of Norway's government Friday, then went to a summer camp dressed as a police officer and gunned down youths as they ran and even swam for their lives, police said Friday.

    The attacks killed at least 16 people in this peaceful nation's worst violence since World War II.

    A police official said the 32-year-old ethnic Norwegian suspect arrested at the camp on Utoya island appears to have acted alone in both attacks, and that "it seems like that this is not linked to any international terrorist organizations at all." The official spoke on condition of anonymity because that information had not been officially released by Norway's police.

    "It seems it's not Islamic-terror related," the official said. "This seems like a madman's work."

    The official said the attack "is probably more Norway's Oklahoma City than it is Norway's World Trade Center." Domestic terrorists carried out the 1995 attack on a federal building in Oklahoma City, while foreign terrorists were responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

    The official added, however, "it's still just hours since the incident happened. And the investigation is going on with all available resources."

    At the youth camp, where the prime minister had been scheduled to speak Saturday, a 15-year-old camper named Elise said she heard gunshots, but then saw a police officer and thought she was safe. Then he started shooting people right before her eyes.

    "I saw many dead people," said Elise, whose father, Vidar Myhre, didn't want her to disclose her last name. "He first shot people on the island. Afterward he started shooting people in the water."

    Elise said she hid behind the same rock that the killer was standing on. "I could hear his breathing from the top of the rock," she said.

    She said it was impossible to say how many minutes passed while she was waiting for him to stop.

    The shootings occurred after the bombing in Oslo, Norway's capital and the city where the Nobel Peace Prize is awarded. The police official who spoke on condition of anonymity said there was at least one unexploded device at the youth camp, and that a police bomb disposal team was working on disarming it with support from military experts.

    The Oslo blast left a square covered in twisted metal, shattered glass and documents expelled from surrounding buildings in a dust-fogged scene that reminded one visitor from New York of Sept. 11.

    Ian Dutton, who was in a nearby hotel, said people "just covered in rubble" were walking through "a fog of debris."

    "It wasn't any sort of a panic," he said, "It was really just people in disbelief and shock, especially in a such as safe and open country as Norway. You don't even think something like that is possible."

    Police said seven people died in the Oslo blast, and another 9 or 10 people were killed at the camp, which was organized by the youth wing of the ruling Labor Party. Rescuers were to search to blast wreckage through the night for more victims, and Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg said police fear there could be more victims at the camp as well.

    Elise, the young camper, said she believes she saw more than 10 people killed.

    Acting national Police Chief Sveinung Sponheim said a man was arrested in the shooting, and the suspect had been observed in Oslo before the explosion there. Police did not immediately say how much time elapsed between the bombing and the attack at Utoya, about 20 miles (35 kilometers) northwest, but reports of the shooting began appearing on Twitter about two and a half hours after the bombing.

    Sponheim said the camp shooter "wore a sweater with a police sign on it. I can confirm that he wasn't a police employee and never has been."

    Aerial images broadcast by Norway's TV2 showed members of a SWAT team dressed in black arriving at the island in boats and running up the dock. Behind them, people who stripped down to their underwear swam away from the island toward shore, some using flotation devices.

    Sponheim said police were still trying to get an overview of the camp shooting and could not say whether there was more than one shooter. He said several people were injured but he could not comment on their conditions.

    In Oslo, most of the windows in the 20-floor high-rise where Stoltenberg and his administration work were shattered. Other buildings damaged house government offices and the headquarters of some of Norway's leading newspapers.

    Oslo University Hospital said 12 people were admitted for treatment following the Utoya shooting, and 11 people were taken there from the explosion in Oslo. The hospital asked people to donate blood.

    Stoltenberg, who was home when the blast occurred and was not harmed, visited injured people at the hospital late Friday. Earlier he decried what he called "a cowardly attack on young innocent civilians."

    "I have message to those who attacked us," he said. "It's a message from all of Norway: You will not destroy our democracy and our commitment to a better world."

    Sponheim would not give any details about the identity or nationality of the suspect, who was being interrogated by police.

    Stoltenberg said "we don't want to speculate" on whether a terror group is responsible, and said some groups may take responsibility "to appear to be more important than they are."

    The attacks formed the deadliest day of terror in Western Europe since the 2005 London bombings, which killed 52 people.

    Police said the Oslo explosion occurred at 3:30 p.m. (1330 GMT) and was caused by "one or more" bombs.

    Public broadcaster NRK showed video of a blackened car lying on its side amid the debris. An AP reporter who was in the office of Norwegian news agency NTB said the building shook from the blast and all employees were evacuated. Down in the street, he saw one person with a bleeding leg being led away from the area.

    An AP reporter headed to Utoya was turned away by police before reaching the lake that surrounds the island, as eight ambulances with sirens blaring entered the area. Police blocked off roads leading to the lake.

    Emilie Bersaas, identified by Sky News television as one of the youths on the island, said she ran inside a school building and hid under a bed when the shooting started.

    "At one point the shooting was very, very close (to) the building, I think actually it actually hit the building one time, and the people in the next room screamed very loud," she said.

    "I laid under the bed for two hours and then the police smashed a window and came in," Bersaas said. "It seems kind of unreal, especially in Norway. This is not something that could happen here."

    One of the youths at the camp, Niclas Tokerud, stayed in touch with his sister through the attack through text messages.

    "He sent me a text saying 'there's been gunshots. I am scared (expletive). But I am hiding and safe. I love you,'" said Nadia Tokerud, a 25-year-old graphic designer in Hokksund, Norway.

    As he boarded a boat from the island after the danger had passed he sent one more text: "I'm safe."

    The United States, European Union, NATO and the U.K., all quickly condemned the bombing, which Britain's Foreign Secretary William Hague called "horrific" and NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen deemed a "heinous act."

    "It's a reminder that the entire international community has a stake in preventing this kind of terror from occurring," President Barack Obama said.

    Obama extended his condolences to Norway's people and offered U.S. assistance with the investigation. He said he remembered how warmly Norwegians treated him in Oslo when he accepted the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009.

    Nobel Peace Prize Chairman Thorbjorn Jagland said it appeared the camp attack "was intended to hurt young citizens who actively engage in our democratic and political society. But we must not be intimidated. We need to work for freedom and democracy every day."

    Norway has been grappling with a homegrown terror plot linked to al-Qaida. Two suspects are in jail awaiting charges.

    Last week, a Norwegian prosecutor filed terror charges against an Iraqi-born cleric for threatening Norwegian politicians with death if he is deported from the Scandinavian country. The indictment centered on statements that Mullah Krekar - the founder of the Kurdish Islamist group Ansar al-Islam - made to various news media, including American network NBC.

    Terrorism has also been a concern in neighboring Denmark since an uproar over cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad six years ago. Danish authorities say they have foiled several terror plots linked to the 2005 newspaper cartoons that triggered protests in Muslim countries. Last month, a Danish appeals court on Wednesday sentenced a Somali man to 10 years in prison for breaking into the home of the cartoonist.

    Many intelligence analysts said they had never heard of Helpers of Global Jihad, which took initial credit. Ansar al-Islam also took credit on some jihadist web sites.

  3. #63
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    Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 02:04 - Norway

    AP - A Norwegian police official told the Associated Press that the 32-year-old Norwegian man suspected of the Oslo bombing and a shooting at a youth camp does not appear to be linked to Islamist terrorism.
    He said the suspect appears to have acted alone, and "it seems like that this is not linked to any international terrorist organisations at all".

  4. #64
    Tani na falni per shqetesimin, por nje gje nuk kuptoj une me ju o njerez; forumi ku eshte hedhur tema e ka "probleme nderkombetare", dhe supozohet se edhe komentet duhet te ecin ne kete vije arsyetimi. Prandaj ,nuk e kuptoj c'jane keto intepretime Kur'ani e feje, ne nje lajm, qe nuk dihet akoma se kush eshte atentatori?
    Meqe jemi te probleme nderkombetare, ja psh se cilat jane problemet qe u pane ne kete rast, qe duhet te trajtohen;
    - E para e punes, mos te merret e mireqene menjehere nje lajm, mbi autorin e sulmit, kur nuk jane prononcuar organet perkatese shteterore
    - Kjo puna e akteve terroriste, qe jo gjithmone ka si gjeneze sulme fetare sic i shiten publikut, aq me teper qe terrorizmi nuk ka pse te identifikohet ne cdo rast me sulme fetare
    - Fakti qe jepet si lajm, qe del nje organizate e cila gjoja vepron ne emer te "fese", dhe merr persiper aktin, duhet analizuar se a duhet vertete t'a marrim te mireqene me rastin e pare qe ta na jepet?
    - Tjeter, duhet ta dini se marrja persiper e nje krimi, sipas procedimit penal, qofte edhe nderkombetar, nuk do thote se vertete e ka kryer ai qe e pohon krimin, dhe se duhet te kryhen hetime te gjithanshme, dhe te pritet derisa organet perkatese te shprehen perfundimisht
    - Te gjithe e dime se njerezimi nuk eshte i sigurte, nuk ka qene, dhe do vazhdoje te jete akoma per nje kohe te gjate....

    Etj etj.....

    Ngushellime per viktimat; i'u pushofte Shpirti ne Paqe!

  5. #65
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    Tani na falni per shqetesimin, por nje gje nuk kuptoj une me ju o njerez; forumi ku eshte hedhur tema e ka "probleme nderkombetare", dhe supozohet se edhe komentet duhet te ecin ne kete vije arsyetimi. Prandaj ,nuk e kuptoj c'jane keto intepretime Kur'ani e feje, ne nje lajm, qe nuk dihet akoma se kush eshte atentatori?
    Meqe jemi te probleme nderkombetare, ja psh se cilat jane problemet qe u pane ne kete rast, qe duhet te trajtohen;
    - E para e punes, mos te merret e mireqene menjehere nje lajm, mbi autorin e sulmit, kur nuk jane prononcuar organet perkatese shteterore
    - Kjo puna e akteve terroriste, qe jo gjithmone ka si gjeneze sulme fetare sic i shiten publikut, aq me teper qe terrorizmi nuk ka pse te identifikohet ne cdo rast me sulme fetare
    - Fakti qe jepet si lajm, qe del nje organizate e cila gjoja vepron ne emer te "fese", dhe merr persiper aktin, duhet analizuar se a duhet vertete t'a marrim te mireqene me rastin e pare qe ta na jepet?
    - Tjeter, duhet ta dini se marrja persiper e nje krimi, sipas procedimit penal, qofte edhe nderkombetar, nuk do thote se vertete e ka kryer ai qe e pohon krimin, dhe se duhet te kryhen hetime te gjithanshme, dhe te pritet derisa organet perkatese te shprehen perfundimisht
    - Te gjithe e dime se njerezimi nuk eshte i sigurte, nuk ka qene, dhe do vazhdoje te jete akoma per nje kohe te gjate....

    Etj etj.....

    Ngushellime per viktimat; i'u pushofte Shpirti ne Paqe!
    Dihet kryesi i vepres,i ke fotot nje faqe me heret.
    Nga faqja kryesore e gazetes norvegjeze www.vg.no


  6. #66
    Skandinavien Maska e TetovaMas
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    te shpresojme qe pas ketij sulmi terrorist Nrovegjia te ndryshoje mendimin per Palestinen...
    Per cfare arsye Norvegjia e ndryshoje mendimin per Palestinen ?? C'fare borxhi i ka Norvegjia Palestines ?? Ndoshta per kete arsye policia sekrete norvegjeze i organizon keto sulme dhe te hudhe fajin mby arabet , dhe si shkake per keto sulme ti ngarkoje te gjithe arabet ne trene dhe ti dergoje ka kane ardhur ne token e Norvegjise . Palestineset Libaneset Kurdet ,irkianet ,samoleset , e meritojne qe Norvegjia ti ngarkoje si kafshe ne trene dhe ti ktheje ne vendin e tyre .

    Keto kafshe arabe ja kane prish stilin e jetes skandinaveve ,dhe si te tille e merritojne sa me shpejte te ngarkohen ne vapora si Hitleri qe i ngarkonte jahudite .

  7. #67
    O Fattlum, une shqip te them; nuk merret menjehere e mireqene nje deklarim i tille, pa u bere hetimet si duhen. Jane ceshtje te rendesishme, dhe kerkojne kohe dhe profesionalizem.

  8. #68
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    Ja e dha kjo verdiktin perfundimtar si duhet te sillemi. Njeriu normal me logjike e ndjenja, para nje ngjarje te tille nuk rri pa e vrare mendjen te hamendesoje me aq info sa jane si dhe pse ndodhi, vetem nje psikopat mund te thote: hej une as po mendoj as po ndjej gje derisa te jepet vendimi nga autoritetet perkatese.

  9. #69
    Citim Postuar mė parė nga D&G Feminine Lexo Postimin
    Ja e dha kjo verdiktin perfundimtar si duhet te sillemi. Njeriu normal me logjike e ndjenja, para nje ngjarje te tille nuk rri pa e vrare mendjen te hamendesoje me aq info sa jane si dhe pse ndodhi, vetem nje psikopat mund te thote: hej une as po mendoj as po ndjej gje derisa te jepet vendimi nga autoritetet perkatese.
    Ate psikopatine mbaje per vete, se kur nuk je ne gjendje te kuptosh ate cfare shkruaj, mbaj gojen me mire, ne rregull. Pastaj ty c'te djeg se cfare flas une?
    Aq me teper qe nuk i dhe vetes kohe, as te thuash ngushellime, (te pakten une e kisha miresine) por te del pune te merresh me se cfare deklaron nje anetar.

  10. #70
    i/e regjistruar Maska e fattlumi
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    O Fattlum, une shqip te them; nuk merret menjehere e mireqene nje deklarim i tille, pa u bere hetimet si duhen. Jane ceshtje te rendesishme, dhe kerkojne kohe dhe profesionalizem.
    Ska cka te lypset profesionalizem ketu kur ky ka pranuar vepren si te tille,plus kesaj jane edhe dhjetera deshmitar te rinj qe i shpetuan te shtenave nga ky,dhe e kane identifikuar si njeriu i cili ka shtene ne ta.

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