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    I-Skipitari 2.0 Maska e Deusexmachina
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    Nga wired dhe Politico:


    Despite what you may read this morning, the U.S. military did not just “discover” a trillion dollars’ worth of precious minerals in Afghanistan.

    The New York Times today proclaimed that Afghanistan is apparently poised to become “the Saudi Arabia of lithium” — a metal used to produce gadgets like iPods and laptops. The discovery will also, according to Pentagon documents quoted by the Times, fundamentally transform the country’s opium-reliant economy.

    But the military (and observers of the military) have known about Afghanistan’s mineral riches for years. The U.S. Geological Survey and the Navy concluded in a 2007 report that “Afghanistan has significant amounts of undiscovered nonfuel mineral resources,” including ”large quantities of accessible iron and copper [and] abundant deposits of colored stones and gemstones, including emerald, ruby [and] sapphire.”

    Not to mention that the $1 trillion figure is — at best — a guesstimate. None of the earlier U.S military reports on Afghan’s mineral riches cite that amount. And it might be prudent to be wary of any data coming out of Afghanistan’s own Mines Ministry, which “has long been considered one of the country’s most corrupt government departments,” The Wall Street Journal reports.


    And the timing of the “discovery” seems just a little too convenient. As Blake Hounshell at Foreign Policy notes, the Obama administration is struggling to combat the perception that the Afghan campaign has “made little discernible progress,” despite thousands of additional troops and billions of extra dollars.

    Still, Pentagon officials are touting the find as a potential economic game-changer — and one that could end decades of conflict. But whether it’s oil or coltan, rich pockets of resources are always a mixed blessing. Just ask children in Congo, home to 80 percent of the world’s coltan supply, who were forced to mine for the precious metal that was later used to manufacture tech gadgets.

    It’ll take years, and a ton of capital investment, before Afghanistan’s deposits can even be mined. And when they can, it’s anybody’s guess who’ll actually be profiting. Hounshell sums up the mess nicely:

    Meanwhile, the drive for Kandahar looks to be stalled in the face of questionable local support for Karzai’s government, the Taliban is killing local authorities left and right, and the corruption situation has apparently gotten so bad that the U.S. intelligence community is now keeping tabs on which Afghan officials are stealing what.





    http://www.politico.com/blogs/laurar...k.html?showall
    One retired senior U.S official is calling the government’s mineral announcement “pretty silly, “When I was living in Kabul in the early 1970s the [U.S. government], the Russians, the World Bank, the U.N. and others were all highly focused on the wide range of Afghan mineral deposits. Cheap ways of moving the ore to ocean ports has always been the limiting factor.”

    At least two American geologists have been advising the Pentagon on Afghanistan’s wealth of mineral resources for years. Bonita Chamberlin, a geologist who spent 25 years working in Afghanistan, “identified 91 minerals, metals and gems at 1,407 potential mining sites,” the Los Angeles Times reported in 2001. In 1995, she even co-wrote a book, “Gemstones in Afghanistan,” on the topic. And Chamberlin worked directly with the Pentagon, after they commissioned her to report on sandstone and limestone caves mere weeks after 9/11.

    “I am quite surprised that the military is announcing this as some ‘new’ and ’surprising” discovery,’ she told Danger Room in an e-mail. “This is NOT new. Perhaps this also hints at the real reason why we would be so intent on this war.”

    And Jack Shroder, a geologist at the University of Nebraska, told the Associated Press in 2001 that mineral deposits in Afghanistan were so rich, they could be vital in rebuilding the country. He’s collaborated with Pentagon officials since the 1970s, when he worked on mapping the country. In 2002, Shroder was approached by several American companies who hoped to start mining the area.

    It’s not clear exactly what those experts shared with military honchos, but the Pentagon’s knowledge of Afghanistan’s minerals clearly preceded the 2004 discovery of “an intriguing series of old charts and data,” as the Times reports. In 2002, the Seattle Post-Intelligencer reported that the U.S. Department of Interior’s Mineral Yearbook, among other atlases, noted Afghanistan’s “significant deposits of gold, precious stones and other minerals waiting to be mined.”

    But whatever the U.S military knows, and no matter how long they’ve known it, Russia likely has ‘em beat. At a 2002 conference on rebuilding Afghanistan, reps from several countries complained that Russia continued to withhold decades-old information about mineral deposits in the country.
    Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga Deusexmachina : 16-06-2010 mė 11:34
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  2. #32
    Jane gjera qe i permend dhe artikulli i New York Times.

  3. #33
    Besimtar Musliman Maska e strange
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    Qė janė zbuluar minerale nė Afganistan nuk me duket interesante. Interesante me duket se si Amerika tė gjithė botėn e "shet" pėr budallenj dhe me e ēuditshmja ėshtė se e gjithė bota pajtohet me kėtė. I vetmi qė nuk u pajtua me kėtė ėshtė kryetari i Gjermanisė.
    Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga strange : 16-06-2010 mė 12:17
    Mėso Islamin nga Kur'ani e jo nga myslimanet!

  4. #34
    MR. BEAN - Laden Maska e the admiral
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    kete "thesarin" prej 1000 miliarde dollaresh e kane zbuluar nje grup gjeologesh amerikane...
    se ē'benin nje grup gjologeh amerikane ne afganistan nuk e kupetoj...

    lind pyetja: sa perqind e kesaj pasurie do i mbese afganistanit??????
    Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam

  5. #35
    Perjashtuar
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    Dje ne lajme degjova qe pasurin nentoksore qe ka Afganistani, mund te behet shteti me i pasuri ne Bote, qe proporcianlisht me Dubain, do t'ia kalonte shum xx here.

    Pasurin do t'ia merr amerika, do ta mashtron sic i ka mashtruar amerikano-latinet gjat luftes se ngrohet, sic e ka mashtruar arabin saudite, sic e mashtroi shahun e Iranit por qe s'ia arriti me. Historia e banditeve vazhdon...

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    don't bother me Maska e Apollyon
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    Citim Postuar mė parė nga Qyfyre Lexo Postimin
    Amerikanet kane zbuluar nje pasuri te madhe minerale te pashfrytezuar ne Afganistan qe mund te arrije shifren e rreth 1 trilion dollareve. Kjo eshte nje pasuri e rralle qe mund te ndryshoje ekononime afgane.

    Keto depozita perfshijne sasi te medha hekuri, bakri, kobalti, ari dhe nje material kritik per industrine e metaleve lithium.

    U.S. Identifies Vast Riches of Minerals in Afghanistan
    Tani me gjith kto lek qe do bejn, mund te blejn nja 7 bomba atomike.
    There is no never ending banquet under the sun. All good things must come to an end.

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    MR. BEAN - Laden Maska e the admiral
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    Citim Postuar mė parė nga Apollyon Lexo Postimin
    Tani me gjith kto lek qe do bejn, mund te blejn nja 7 bomba atomike.
    te blejene bomba atomike???
    hahaha! po, po. e thjeshte fare eshte...
    shkojne ne supermarket dhe e blejne. ose ne eBay. keshtu ja sjellin direkt ne shtepi...
    Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam

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    don't bother me Maska e Apollyon
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    Citim Postuar mė parė nga the admiral Lexo Postimin
    te blejene bomba atomike???
    hahaha! po, po. e thjeshte fare eshte...
    shkojne ne supermarket dhe e blejne. ose ne eBay. keshtu ja sjellin direkt ne shtepi...
    Nuk eshte dhe aq veshtire te gjesh dicka nese ke Triliona dollar..

    Cdo enderr te behet realitet me aq lek.
    There is no never ending banquet under the sun. All good things must come to an end.

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    MR. BEAN - Laden Maska e the admiral
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    Nuk eshte dhe aq veshtire te gjesh dicka nese ke Triliona dollar..

    Cdo enderr te behet realitet me aq lek.
    e dyshoj. asnje vend arab nuk ka bomba atomike.
    a nuk po kane para ata?
    Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam

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    don't bother me Maska e Apollyon
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    e dyshoj. asnje vend arab nuk ka bomba atomike.
    a nuk po kane para ata?
    Arabia Saudite ka lek, po ata skan ce duan Bomben Atomike.

    Jepi kta triliona dollaret Afganistanit edhe ta shohim se ca do jete gjeja e pare qe do bejn me ato lek.
    There is no never ending banquet under the sun. All good things must come to an end.

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