Sarakaçanet ose karakaçanet?

[DYDRINAS]

Sarakaçanet ose karakaçanet?

Qenka nje popullate qe jeton ne Bullgari, Serbi, Maqedoni, Shqiperi dhe Greqi.

A ka dikush me shume informacion rreth kesaj popullate?

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Another significant event is the Traditional review and round-up of the sarakatsani folklore called “Flamboura” (the name of the sarakatsani flag) conducted in the winter period. Participation in it take not only our dancing units which present what they studied during the year, but also authentic performers of sarakatsani folklore.

http://www.karakachani.com/en/about-us/history.html

[DYDRINAS]

Sipas http://www.universalis.fr/encyclopedie/sarakatsan/, ata paraqiten si nje popullsi qe flasin nje gjuhe, qe eshte klasifikuar ne grupin e gjuheve romane dhe se sipas Enciclopedia Universalis, kjo gjuhe eshte "nje mbetje e gjuheve antike ilire dhe dako-trake", dy popujt qe dikur banonin tere Ballkanin.

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Les parlers sarakatsan qui semblent apparentés au latin — ils sont classés parmi les langues romanes — ne sont que des vestiges des antiques parlers illyriens et thraco-daces, ceux des tribus qui occupaient dans l'Antiquité l'ouest et l'est du triangle balkanique. Ils sont de ce fait très proches des dialectes les plus archaïques d'Albanie, d'une part, et de Roumanie, d'autre part. Ceux des Sarakatsan qui ne se sont pas sédentarisés vivent regroupés en grandes ligues de familles indivises, d'origine clanique commune ou appartenant à des clans différents, nommées stani ou kalivi (cabanes) ; ils constituent ainsi des villages ambulants administrés par un chef, parfois héréditaire, choisi dans la famille la plus riche ou la plus valeureuse...

[DYDRINAS]

Studimet shkencore i klasifikojne ata si pasardhes te nje race shume te vjeter ballkanike, qe cilesohet edhe me e vjeter se basket.

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The description given above places the Sarakatsani population in the Continental, or Epirotic, type of the europaeoids, and not among the Mediterraneans (as supposed by Necrassova, Boev, 1962). It has been shown, that the Epirotic type is much older on European soil, than the Mediterranean one (Poulianos 1968). It is clearly related to the "Brunn-Przedmost-CroMagnon" type described by G.F. Debetz (1936). This same type is followed up by Ι. Ι. Gohman (1966) amongst the Mesolithic (Vassilievka ΙΙI ) and Neolithic population of Ukraine. Due to this work by Gohman we now know that the "Cro-Magnon in the wide meaning of the word" anthropological type of Western Europe in the Upper Palaeolithic is the same in Eastern Europe and the steppes of the Russian Plain. Upper Palaeolithic skulls are not yet known in Greece, but there is α very interesting find of early Mesolithic (Jacobsen 1969). The physical type of the skull is classified by J. L. Angel (1969) as Basic White (Α3) and lies between Tιviec and Natufιans (less linear than the later). Our own study of the skull (Poulianos 1970) gave α 1οw face (68 mm) and quite wide (143 mm). The frontal width is rather small and the slope almost straight. Unfortunately it is yet only one skull and it would be difficult to come to general conclusions about the Mesolithic population of Greece. Still we can classify it among the Protoeuropaeoids, in a way linking anthropologically the territory of Central and Southern Europe in such an early period.

The Epirotic type described above is met, besides the Pindos massif, among the Epirotes of NW Greece, which we first studied in 1957, and after whom the name of the type was given. The same type is met in Montenegro, as it is described by K.W. Ehrich (1948), in NW Bulgaria, (Poulianos, 1966), in Romania (Milku, Dumitrescu, 1958-1961) and in Ukraine (Djatchenko 1965). It is not confined only to the Dinaric Alps, but extended to the west at least as far as Pyrinnes. It is a real epirotic (e.g. continental). The Palaeolithic Europeans could not vanish without a trace. Their descendants became the Epirotics, and the most representative group of them, the nucleus so to speak of the Epirotic type, is the Sarakatsani isolates.

Up to now in literature prevailed the opinion that the Basques, who do not speak an Indo-European language, were maybe the oldest people in Europe. Some refer to the Lapps as well too. Let us consider both cases: The Basques (Poulianos 1969b) as α whole are not very different in their physique from the rest of the population of Spain, which in its absolute majority is Mediterranoid. This is not meant to say that no Cro-magnon elements are met among the Basques, as we cannot say that no Mediterranoids are met among Sarakatsani. The relict language is only an indication of the antiquity of a population. The physical features are those which count more. On our case the Sarakatsani show themselves to be much older.
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http://www.aee.gr/english/5sarakatsani/sarakatsani.html

[EDLIN]

Une e di se jane nje fis i çobaneve.....

[DYDRINAS]

Karakaçanet ne Bullgari.

[DYDRINAS]

Sarakaçanet, nomadet e Agrafes, ne Greqi.

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[Korcar-L1]

sarakacanet jane nje dege e vllenjeve, ndryshe te njohur si cobenjte e malit. Mereshin me blektori dhe ishin shume besimtare. Kam aritur personalisht te shikoj 2 plaka qe kishin tatuazh kryqin ne balle. ektsreme por e vertete...nuk e haroj kurre megjithese kane kaluar me shume se 2 dekada. btw shqip nuk dinin, vetem gjuhen e tyre (vllace) dhe greqisht.

[Kreksi]

sarakacanet jane nje dege e vllenjeve, ndryshe te njohur si cobenjte e malit. Mereshin me blektori dhe ishin shume besimtare. Kam aritur personalisht te shikoj 2 plaka qe kishin tatuazh kryqin ne balle. ektsreme por e vertete...nuk e haroj kurre megjithese kane kaluar me shume se 2 dekada. btw shqip nuk dinin, vetem gjuhen e tyre (vllace) dhe greqisht.

Kam percjellur një dokumentar perrmes Tv5, ndoshta e ke edhe ne internet, dhe aty flitet për kêtê komunitet vêllehe ose siç i quajne edhe sarakacani...nê Maqedoni e Bullgari etj..
Ajo halal qe ju permendet, mbante njê kryq, tatuazh nê ball, ishte e fundit kjo se pastaj nuk u lejua kjo tradit, kishte tatuazh edhe ne te gjithê gishtat e duarve qe i bênin duke ngrohur gjilperen pranê njê llampe petroli(vajguri) dhe kur tymosej mire gjilpera shperthehej lekura e kur terhiqej ngelej tymosja e petrolit nê lekur, veprim i tmershem por i demosdoshem ne kohen e pushtimit turkê, ky komunitet vellahe, kishte zgjedhur nje metod te zgjuar qe truqit mos t'ua prekin vashat e tyre ..keshtu qe ua benin nje kryq ne ball dhe turqit si besimtar as qe guxonin ti shihnin me sy.; iknin prej tyre.. por, vellehet ne kete lloje lufte ruajten jo vetem traditat e besimet e tyre te lashta por ruajten edhe popullesine e tyre nga perzierja turke.. per ate jane shume te bardh ;; si bineq te gjithe...