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    Is Islam a religion of terrorism....??

    Does Islam ask for killing the people for no reason....??

    Quran says that killing One human being for other manslaughter"he was a killer" or corruption in the earth"i.e. rapping",,the person who kill any human being for anything but that,God will punish him as if he killed whole the huminity, and who save One human being, God will reward him, as if he saved whole the huminity.....

    For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind. Our messengers came unto them of old with clear proofs (of Allah's Sovereignty), but afterwards lo! many of them became prodigals in the earth. (Quran 5:32)

    Does Islam allow the freedom in believing in any faith....??

    There is no compulsion in religion. The right direction is henceforth distinct from error. And he who rejecteth false deities and believeth in Allah hath grasped a firm handhold which will never break. Allah is Hearer, Knower. (Quran 2:256)

    When Muslims Can fight....??

    We Muslims have special way in living its called in seeking for God,how, like studying hard to be a great Engineer,and be helpful Muslim and God loves me,like that I have intetation in seeking for God,like Im honest at my work and work ,just to make God loves me and accept my work,then I work seeking for God, and even when I fight defending my soul ,my family, my land, my religion,if I fighted according to the rules God put,like

    -the Belivers Shouldnt start a fight.

    Sanction (to fight) is given unto those who fight because they have been wronged; and Allah is indeed Able to give them victory; (39) Those who have been driven from their homes unjustly only because they said: Our Lord is Allah - For had it not been for Allah's repelling some men by means of others, cloisters and churches and oratories and mosques, wherein the name of Allah is oft mentioned, would assuredly have been pulled down. Verily Allah helpeth one who helpeth Him. Lo! Allah is Strong, Almighty - (Quran 22:40)

    -the Believers should Just punish as much they been through.

    Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors. (Quran 2:190)

    -the Believers should stop whenever the Other asked for Peace,even if you werent sure of the intetations.

    And if they incline to peace, incline thou also to it, and trust in Allah. Lo! He, is the Hearer, the Knower. (Quran 8:61)

    So You cant fight but defending ,never attacking , God loveth not agreessors.

    -the Believers cant never kill a woman, a kid , an aged ,or cut a tree or or or.

    The prophet used to advise the Army those 10 advises,
    I advise you ten things| Do not kill women or children or an aged, infirm person. Do not cut down fruit-bearing trees. Do not destroy an inhabited place. Do not slaughter sheep or camels except for food. Do not burn bees and do not scatter them. Do not steal from the booty, and do not be cowardly.”

    A Question may arise here,why dont you forgive who are mean to you ,,,,,
    Islam talks everywhere about the Tepmer controling, and forgining , those who are mean to us,

    those who control their wrath and are forgiving toward mankind; Allah loveth the good; (Quran 3:134)

    Keep to forgiveness (O Muhammad), and enjoin kindness, and turn away from the ignorant. (Quran 7:199)

    Tell those who believe to forgive those who hope not for the days of Allah; in order that He may requite folk what they used to earn. (Quran 45-14)

    But Once a sword was raised before you, and someOne trys to kill you,you should fight back......................

    God says in Quran talking to prophet Muhamed,tell them"the pagans,the Christian and Jews" , you have your religion,and I have mine.
    Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion. (Quran 109:6)

    Sanction (to fight) is given unto those who fight because they have been wronged; and Allah is indeed Able to give them victory; (39) Those who have been driven from their homes unjustly only because they said: Our Lord is Allah - For had it not been for Allah's repelling some men by means of others, cloisters and churches and oratories and mosques, wherein the name of Allah is oft mentioned, would assuredly have been pulled down. Verily Allah helpeth one who helpeth Him. Lo! Allah is Strong, Almighty - (Quran 22:40)

    But dont forget the main rules,

    The prophet used to advise the Army those 10 advises,
    I advise you ten things| Do not kill women or children or an aged, infirm person. Do not cut down fruit-bearing trees. Do not destroy an inhabited place. Do not slaughter sheep or camels except for food. Do not burn bees and do not scatter them. Do not steal from the booty, and do not be cowardly.”

    Does God ask to kill non believers and terminate them as some priests want you to beleive...??

    God ask us to show love and kindness to those non beleivers who doesnt fight us , or get us out of our lands, and kill us.

    Allah forbiddeth you not those who warred not against you on account of religion and drove you not out from your homes, that ye should show them kindness and deal justly with them. Lo! Allah loveth the just dealers. (Quran 60:8)

    Is fighting an aim or a means in Islam...??

    No, the fighting is just to stop their fighting against believers,but if they asked for peace ,then we should accept and live in peace,even if we thought that they just want time,to get ready and fight back,we should trust in God and accept.

    And if they incline to peace, incline thou also to it, and trust in Allah. Lo! He, is the Hearer, the Knower. (Quran 8:61)

    The believers should fight but those who fight them,they shouldnt start fighting , NOo, the believers Just fight defending thier fight agaist them.

    Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors. (Quran 2:190)

    And when you fight them back , fight them just the same,where ever they were, if they got you out of your land, get them out of it ,can you see equality in punishement... And God says dont fight them in the holy places,but if they started,If they attack you ,then fight them and if you killed who attack you with a weapon, if you killedhim defending your life, God wont punish you,its your right to defend your soul..Dont hate the word fight....Fight may save your life, Do you accept that Police fight agianst the Crime....??

    Sure it will make our life peaceful , and at the same time we should teach them and educate them, But what if those thiefs have guns....The American cups,have a principal "SHOOT DA HEAD" , if he has a gun , and start acting like he is going to shoot the cup , then its the Cup's right to shoot him,to spread peace,,, Fight for a fair Case will bring peace...But lets say there was no fighting at all , and the gangs spreaded everywhere in the street, killing those , rapping this, stealing those,,,,Where the peace then.....??

    Dont tell me , they gonna change , because I already mentioned that the first way to deal is discussion , but Once guns appear, then fighting back is Important to save the peace , and the innoncient souls...

    And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out[can you see,when they start spreading terrorism], for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.[who fighted you , Belivers, and got you out of your lands, and spreaded the terrorism] (Quran 2:191)

    But If they stopped attacking you,and asked for peace , you should listen to the voice of peace ,even if you felt they just asked for peace to have the time to get more ready , You should trust in God ,andlisten to the voice of peace.

    But if they desist, then lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (Quran 2:192)

    How should you fight....??

    Neverbe unjustice, attack them,just the same as they fighted you,
    The forbidden month for the forbidden month, and forbidden things in retaliation. And one who attacketh you, attack him in like manner as he attacked you. Observe your duty to Allah, and know that Allah is with those who ward off (evil). (Quran 2:194)

    Fighting is bad,I know, but If we didnt fight who fight us,then we will live in submission,and loss our lives,our peace,our freedom and our faith,,,We all hate fighting,but when fighting is to stop who attack me to kill me , then I should fight defending my soul, and that fight will spread peace...

    Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not. (Quran 2:216)

    If you Just readed that Hadith about who is considered to be a martyr in Islam, you will know,when you can fight in Islam,

    Book 40, Number 4754:
    Narrated Sa'id ibn Zayd:
    The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: He who is killed while protecting his property is a martyr, and he who is killed while defending his family, or his blood, or his religion is a martyr.

    So The Summery of my topic,

    Muslims can fight ober that ,
    You can fight defending things,

    1-you life : I dont think if someone came towards you with a guy, you will give him your back, and get shoot in silence, you should fight and defend your life.

    2-your family : I dont think if a man tried to rap your wife, ur daughter , your mom , I dont think you will be peaceful praying God , not to make her feel pain, and wait on him to finish.

    3-your land , I dont think if the Soviet Union came back ,and descided to occupy US, I dont think when you fight them back, you wont call your selvies terrorists, but afreedom fighters, while when the Muslims fight the occuping American Army in Iraq or Aghanistan , they are terrorists .

    4-your money , I dont think if someone came to rob you, you will give him your pocket, and the credit cards ,in addition,if you did that , and everybody did that , the thives will increase daily.

    5-your religion , like what the Soviet Union was doing in the Soviet empire, they spreaded athiestic with power, and punished believers , if you were captured having religion books , or praying , you go to prison , In this case you have to fight against that union, that prevent the freedom of believing

    While Bible says,

    Ezekiel 9:6Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.

    Isaiah 13:16Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.
    Hosea 13:1616 Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.

    1 Samuel 15:2-4
    2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
    3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
    4 And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah.
    Let us look at Numbers 31:17 "Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."

    Also, let us look at Numbers 31:35-40 "[From the captives of war] 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.......of which the tribute for the LORD was 32 [virgin women]."

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    It is a Albanian Forum as you may know, also Albanian language is the mian language.
    It would be pleasure to have this post in Albanian version.

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    pendex
    Someone wants to be a Devils Advocate.

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    The problem friend, I do not know ALbanian, and Im excited to get new friends from Albania

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    Citim Postuar mė parė nga muhamed.stephan Lexo Postimin
    The problem friend, I do not know ALbanian, and Im excited to get new friends from Albania
    Ok.Describe with your words what is the point of this topic?

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