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  1. #61
    Larguar Maska e cunimartum
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    Kush do te kuptoj c'do te thote terrorizem le ti hedhi nje sy te shpejte fare kesaj fotos

    http://www.humanityonhold.com/sharon...ila/index.html
    Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga cunimartum : 01-06-2003 mė 03:39
    Fen e ke krejt personale. MEMEDHEUN E KEMI TE PERBASHKET.

  2. #62
    Dash...me kembore Maska e Toro
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    Postuar mė parė nga armandovranari
    Te gjitha sa ke thene me lart jane te verteta qe te rrenqethin.

    Por ke harruar te shtosh qe nuk pati ASNJE VIKTIME HEBRE, pra aty pati viktima nga 30 kombesi te ndryshme, por asnje cifut.
    Nuk eshte paranoje shqtesimi lidhur me kete fakt. Eshte zene disa here ne goje edhe ne Forum, dhe mbetet shume i dyshimte.
    A nuk na con ky fakt qe dashur pa dashur te hipotezojme dhe kjo hipoteze ka shume te ngjare te jete e vertete, qe Lobi Hebre mund te kete qene ne dijeni te ketij akti terrorist makaber.
    Nese eshte keshtu a nuk do ishte Humane te behej publike kjo informate qe mesa duket vetem lobi hebere ishte ne dijeni ne ate kohe?
    Ku eshte humanizmi dhe ndjenja e paqes e hebrenjve. Nuk dua te tingelloj si anti-hebre ketu, por politika e tyre gjithe kete shekull ka qene nje politke HAKMARRESE. Mund te duket e drejte pas gjthe atyre qe kane hequr, por nje nga vyrtytet me te cmuara eshte Te falesh!


    Armando,
    Teoria tjeter e konspiracionit e "mosbesuesve" eshte se nder viktimat e 11 shtatorit nuk gjendet asnje cifut. Kjo eshte nje nga genjeshtrat me te ndyra. Ne se ke mundesi te gjesh katalagon e emrave te viktimave te WTC ( kullave binjake) do te gjesh ne te shume emra cifutesh ( qe dallohen nga prapashtesat karakteristike "-berg" ose "-man"). Katalogun e plote e ketyre viktimave mund ta gjesh ( nese vjen ndonjihere ne NYC) ne stacionin e subway ne qender te NY ( Union Square) dhe mund te shohesh vete me syte e tu se sa cifute perfshihen ne ate katalog.
    Ne se kerkon per shtetas te Izraelit ne ate katalog , mundet te mos gjesh ( por mundet dhe te kete). Por si nuk gjen nenshtetas te Izraelit, nuk do te gjesh as nenshtetas shqiptare , as nga 170 shtete te tjera te botes.
    Me qe nuk paska pasur shqiptare dmth qe komploti i 11 shtatorit duhet te jete pergatitur nga shqiptaret.Kjo eshte llogjika e perkrahesve te "conspiracy theory", te cilet ne kete rast akozojne cifutet.
    Por harrojme dicka. Nje pyetje te thjeshte qe cdo njohes naiv i politikes nderkombetare mund ta beje:"Perse Izraeli duhet te rrezikoje kaq shume duke goditur SHBA ( aleatin e vetem te tij) kaq rende, nderkohe qe ai ka 50 vjet qe po ben palle duke i vrare arabet nen mbeshtetjen e SHBA? Per te futur SHBA ne lufte me Afganistanin? Apo per te ndjelle zemerimin e SHBA kunder terrorizmit islamik, zemerim te cilin SHBA e ka pasur qe nga vitet '70 kur organizatat terroriste arabe godisnin interesat amerikane ne te gjithe boten si perkrahese e politikes se Izraelit?"
    "Who is John Galt?"

  3. #63
    Larguar Maska e cunimartum
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    Nje pyetje te thjeshte qe cdo njohes naiv i politikes nderkombetare mund ta beje:"Perse Izraeli duhet te rrezikoje kaq shume duke goditur SHBA ( aleatin e vetem te tij) kaq rende, nderkohe qe ai ka 50 vjet qe po ben palle duke i vrare arabet nen mbeshtetjen e SHBA? Per te futur SHBA ne lufte me Afganistanin? Apo per te ndjelle zemerimin e SHBA kunder terrorizmit islamik, zemerim te cilin SHBA e ka pasur qe nga vitet '70 kur organizatat terroriste arabe godisnin interesat amerikane ne te gjithe boten si perkrahese e politikes se Izraelit?"
    perse Toro?

    edhe une njeri naiv mund te jem por do me dukej preteks i shkelqyer per te filluar luftera me ane te te cilave do vinte pushtetin dhe kembet ne vende te cilat s'mund ti vinte dot me menyra te tjera, te cilat si vuri dot me pare.

    propaganda ndaj terrorizmit "Islamik" eshte bere sic kemi pasur buken dikur s'rrinim dot pa te, ka justifikim me te paster se ky

    shif pak per cfare ndodhi ne Oklahoma City dhe si e kane quajtur ate qe akuzohet, "terrorist Islamik", pastaj u detyruan ta pergenjeshtrojne dhe ta quajne thjesht hipoteze
    do dukej perralle te thoje qe aty s'ka pasur cifute, po shqiptare s'kishte si te kishte se nuk jane ata ne krye te bizneseve
    Fen e ke krejt personale. MEMEDHEUN E KEMI TE PERBASHKET.

  4. #64
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    Le ti bej amerika nje nder atyre ne arabi, ti fusi bomben qe ti coje perpara ne epoken e gurit.

    Kerkojne te interpretojne me llafe te bukura se si islami, nuk ka gisht ne mentalitetin terrorist dhe te pacivilizuar te arabeve po keto jane dokra. Eshte pikerisht islami qe u le atyre hapesire per te menduar dhe vepruar si terroriste. Eshte pikerisht islami qe nuk i le ata te civilizohen dhe te krijojne nje shoqeri te hapur dhe liberale, demokratike dhe te emancipuar. Askush tjeter nuk vret ne emer te zotit ne shekullin e 20 vecse myslimaneve.

    Bomba e Oklahomes ishte nje rast i vetem, i nje te rrjedhuri nga mend e kokes dhe as qe mund te krahasohet me qellimet "hyjnore" ne emer te te cilave bythegrisurit arabe kerkojne ti vene minat gjithe botes se civilizuar.

    Bota arabe i duhet nenshtruar vullnetit Amerikan dhe Izraelit nqs duan te ecin perpara ne kete bote, dhe nqs duan paqe dhe begati. Vetem triumfi i vullnetit te ketyre dy kombeve me madheshtore ne kete bote do sjelle nivelin me te larte te paqes dhe begatise ne kete rruzull, sepse keto dy kombe perfaqesojne ajken mendore, materiale dhe civile te kesaj bote. Bota pra natyrshem do shkoje drejt shkaterimit sikur ajo te sundohet nga vullneti apo morali mesjetar i injoranteve dhe xhahileve te arabise.

  5. #65
    Larguar Maska e cunimartum
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    Bomba e Oklahomes ishte nje rast i vetem, i nje te rrjedhuri nga mend e kokes
    qe menjehere u quajt terrorist islamik dhe vetem sepse s'kishin ca ti benin se ishte puro amerikon e pergenjeshtruan

    une mor cun sia nenshtroj vendin dhe veten time askujt pervec Zotit, ti po te pelqen nenshtroja bushit
    Fen e ke krejt personale. MEMEDHEUN E KEMI TE PERBASHKET.

  6. #66
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    Une veten time i dashur ia nenshtroj vetem interesit tim. Interesi im plotesohet me shume dhe me mire kur une gjej aleanca me me te fuqishmit perparuarit dhe te begatet.

    Une dua te jem si ata, ti shembellej atyre apo te behem si ata ja pse une kerkoj ta identifikoj veten time me keta. Mua nuk me duhet se cfare mendojne sklleverit e arabise, "jo i lepihesh amerikes" jo je servil i saj" etj etj. Morali i aziatikeve nuk aplikon mbi mua. Cfare eshte e keqe per ta nuk eshte e keqe per mua. Amerika eshte e "keqe" per Irakun jo per shqiperine dhe Kosoven.

    Pra duhet te jesh o qorr a debil, ose totalisht mosmirenjohes te mos njohesh faktin se po te mos ishte amerika ne 1919 dhe 1999 ne nuk do kishim as komb as shtet, pra nuk do ekzistonim. Amerika luftoi dhe fitoi luften per ne ne Kosove, se po te ishte per shqiptaret Serbi sot do ishte duke bere plazh ne Durres apo Shengjin ashtu sic beri ne 1913. Prandaj mos fluturo me presh dhe ashtu sic njef sakrificat e shqiptareve per kombin e vet duhet te njohesh edhe realietin qe thote se amerikes i jemi borxhli deri ne gryke.

    Ne duhet te na mallengjejne sklleverit e arabise, dhe jo madheshtia, perparimi dhe zhvillimi i dy kombeve me te larte si menderisht ashtu edhe materialisht te kesaj bote Amerikes dhe Izraelit. Kur ata vuajne edhe ju vuani me ata, sepse e identifikoni veten me skllavin, me mjeranit apo injorantin e arabise.

    Po mire thone "Di dhia c'eshte tagjia!"

  7. #67
    Perjashtuar
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    te jesh kundra politikes amerikane persa i perket ceshtjes se palestines ose irakut ose afganistanit etj etj
    nuk do te thote qe sje mirnjohes ndaj amerikes per ato dy datat qe permende ti mbi SHQIPNIN
    pervec kesaj
    sipas mendimit tim superior ndaj mendimit tat te huazuar cifut amerika e ka pas per detYre ndihmen kundrejt ATDHEUT TONE sepse ajo vete e ka marre rrolin e arbitrit te drejte ne bote
    ne rastin e SHQIPNISE NDERHYRJA ISHTE E DREJTE(megjithse per te hapur syte e amerikes u deshen 50000 SHQIPTARE te masakruar nga serbi) kurse ne rastet e tjera nuk eshte e drejt


    meqe shoh me keqardhje se je injorant ne ket qe do shkruaj me poshte po mundohem te te ndihmoj me pak informacion
    fjala islam nuk eshte e bashkangjitur me fjalen arab
    pra te qenit mysliman sdo te thote aspak te jesh arab
    do te thote te pranosh te qėnit skllav i ZOTIT (dhe po sdeshe ti perseri je skllav i vullnetit te tij)
    E VETMJA QENIE SUPERIORE mbi mua si njeri
    edhe mbi ty

    E VETMJA QENIE SUPERIORE

    nuk pres qe te behesh i zgjuar me kaq sa te thashe pasi derisa ne te kemi sistem referimi te ndryshem mbi idete dhe mendimet tona ti do grish sallate andej
    dhe une sipas teje do grij sallate ketej

    p.s
    pjesa e pare shkrimit te meparshem nuk ishte per ty por ska problem
    sic duket u ndjeve edhe ti skllav dhe u hodhe

    per redin
    ma thuj pak arsyen qe fshin shkrimin tim tek tema tjeter mbi politiken amerikane
    apo ske c ben dhe luan deren

  8. #68
    i/e regjistruar Maska e Mila
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    I njeti web qe na dhe ketu ka plot linke qe e hedhin poshte kete teori idiote se vete USA e orkestroi dhe e realizoi nje nga tragjedite me te renda qe e kane goditur ndonjehere.
    Nuk mjafton teoria e nje dikujt sado bukur t'i kete lidhur fjalet te provoje se eshte e vertete nje hipoteze e tille. Pastaj ai eshte francez domethene mendjemadh megalloman dhe antiamerikan qe mendon se superfuqi duhet te jete Franca e jo dikush tjeter e qe nuk e gelltit dot faktin se Franca nuk eshte me aq e "shkelqyer" sa do ta donte ai vete.
    Per fat te keq ka plot "te mencur" te tille qe bejne sensacion duke thene se Shekspiri ishte homoseksual,qe nuk ka patur dhoma gazi neper kampet e perqendrimit ose qe Enver Hoxha nuk dinte se c'behej neper burgje e kampe e se fajin e kishin te tjeret.
    Shesin disa miliona kopje (kur ka kush u blen keto pislleqe pse jo?)dhe pastaj historia i hedh ne qoshe si plera se ato qe shkruajne nuk vlejne nje dyshke.
    Don't let anyone take away your voice.

  9. #69
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    Eshte mentaliteti qe percakton karakterin qe tek keta njerez eshte ai i pasardhesit te sklleverve, te mjeraneve, prapambeturve, pacivilizuarve dhe mbi te gjitha te barbareve te ketij shekulli. Kerkojne qe kete barbarizem vrases te tyre (si ai i 11 shtatorit) ta fshehin nen realitetin e te qenit inferior dhe qenie e ulet, e paafte dhe e pavlere per cdo gje. Ja me ane te ketyre fotove, kerkojne qe edhe ne te vuajme me ta, keshtu qe ne ti nenshtrohemi moralit dhe vyrtyteve te tyre te ulta. Dhe keshtu edhe ne duhet te plogeshtohemi, humbin energjine kot per ata qe jane pertej shpreses, duan pra qe kete "kolere" te konfliktit qe vete ia imponuan vetes ta kthejne ne nje semundje ngjitese.
    Dhe shume nga masat dhe individe te rendomte e hane sapunin per djath.

    Harrojne keta matufe se ishin pikerisht keto shtresa, keto grupe dhe keta individe qe protestojne sot kunder amerikes, te cilet protestuan edhe dje kunder saj kur ajo shpetonte nga vdekja e sigurite ata me te cilet ju iu bashkon geni i te qenit shqiptar, pra bashkatdhetaret tuaj. Kini dy fije integritet dhe respekt per identitetin qe perfaqesoni pa kushte (shqiptarizmin), per jeten e bashkombesave tuaj, ekzistenca e te cileve i detyrohet pikerisht nderhyrjes dhe influences amerikane. Mos i mohoni kesaj fuqie, interesin e saj qe e ben ate te afte per te shpetuar jeten tuaj. Kerkoni edhe ju te jini individe qe i perkisni nje shoqerie me vlera dhe aftesi te larta sic eshte ajo amerikane. Kerkoni edhe ju te vuani si ajo, te gezoni si ajo, te punoni, perparoni dhe ti perngjani apo te synoni suksesin e saj, dhe hiqni dore nga solidarizimi me llumin e kesaj bote destinacioni i te cilit eshte mjerimi, prapambetja dhe degjenerimi moral.

    Hiqni dore nga perqafimi i vlerave prej skllavi te injoranteve arabe, me te cilet ju, nuk iu lidh asgje. Mos e identifikoni veten me bythegrisurit dhe anadollaket e arabise dhe te mendoni "Obobo po sikur te jem une ne vend te tyre" duke vuajtur e u ligeshtuar me ata, por beni pikerisht te kunderten, mundoni te vini veten ne vend te amerikanit te begate e te madherishem.

    Sklleverit e arabise sot kerkojne te bejne lufte me Ameriken madheshtore dhe te fuqishme e kur mposhten dhe munden me turp kerkojne qe falimentimin ta kthejne ne gjynafqarllek, meshire dhe "pafajesi". Kerkojne pra qe bota ti shikoje me syrin e meshires, dhe ti konsideroje si qenie te pafajshme e te pademshme. Por thelbi i qenies se tyre eshte urrejtja dhe deshira per terror e barbarizem. Keta nuk kane gje ne dore se po te kishin, normat morale te meshires dhe pafajesise do ti injoronin totalisht( ashtu sic ben ne 11 shtator). Morali i tyre prej skllavi nuk njef krenari, as integritet, as burreri, por hile, vrasje mbas shpine, terror te drejtuar pikerisht tek te pafajshmit, si te cilet keta kerkojne ta shesin veten sot.

    Gezojuni jetes o te mjere, gezojuni edhe ekzistences suaj dhe te bashkatdhetareve tuaj, dhe mos harroni se pa ameriken keto fare mire mund te mos ti kishit.

  10. #70
    Student Shqiptar Maska e Enri
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    ETA godet pushuesit nė Spanjė, 13 tė plagosur

    MADRID- Dy bomba kanė shpėrthyer nė hotelet e bregdetit spanjoll tė Benidorm dhe Alicante. Si rezultat kanė mbetur tė plagosur 13 vetė, pėrfshi 7 turistė tė huaj. Ngjarja ndodhi pak pasi grupi separatist bask ETA kishte paralajmėruar pėr sulme tė reja. Shpėrthimet ndodhėn 10 minuta mė pas kėtij paralajmėrimi. Tė plagosurit e tjerė janė 4 policė dhe njė civil pėrveē 7 tė huajve. Brigjet e Benidorm dhe Alicante janė tė mbushura me pushues spanjollė dhe tė huaj. Shpėrthimi shkaktoi dėme tė mėdha nė hotelet e vegjėl. Por mbi tė gjitha ekziston frika se ky sulm ėshtė njė shenjė qė tregon fillimin e fushatės bombarduese tė kryera nga organizata separatiste baske qė lufton kundėr qeverisė spanjolle. Vitet e fundit ETA ka goditur sektorin turistik, industrinė mė tė rėndėsishme tė Spanjės, qė pėrbėn 12 % tė ekonomisė. ETA ėshtė grupi gueril evropiano-perėndimor mė aktiv dhe ėshtė cilėsuar organizatė terroriste nga SHBA dhe BE. ETA ka vrarė 841 vetė qė nga viti 1968 dhe synimi i saj ėshtė tė shpallė shtet tė pavarur bask nė veri tė Spanjės dhe nė jugperėndim tė Francės. Njė pushues holandez ėshtė nė gjendje serioze pėr jetėn, pasi nga bombat ka marrė fraktura tė mėdha. Gjithashtu njė gjerman ėshtė nė rrezik pėr jetėn ndėrsa dy suedezė, dy rusė, njė britanik dhe njė spanjoll vuajnė plagosje tė lehta. “Ēdo verė ata pėrpiqen pėr tė njėjtėn gjė, por kurrė nuk i arrijnė qėllimet”, -ėshtė shprehur nė njė konferencė pėr shtyp, Jose Maria Aznar.
    Rregullorja e Forumit Shqiptar | Te Drejtat e Anetareve | Pyetje - Pergjigje |

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  11. #71
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    Criticism is surfacing that President Bush has turned Iraq into a battleground for terrorists. If that is truly the case then, well, good: Better to fight them in Iraq where they are isolated, vulnerable and the rules of engagement permit our professionals to engage and eliminate them, than to have to fight them here. If Iraq is the catalyst that is bringing these vermin out of their holes in Syria, Iran, Afghanistan and Palestine, then, hooray, we have achieved yet another tangential benefit by fighting the war.

    Une mund te te sjell nje thes me artikuj te tjere qe paraqesin nje ane tjeter te medaljes qe eshte shume me reale se ajo qe paraqet shkrimi ne fjale.

    Esenca e tyre eshte shume e thjeshte. Asnjehere me pare SHBA nuk eshte goditur nga ndonje sulm terrorist qe vinte prej Irakut apo financohej prej tij. Sot ne periudhen post Sadam, Iraku nuk eshte kthyer vetem ne nje shesh beteje mes guerriljeve dhe forcave amerikane .... pushtimi sot ne Irak po rrit ndjeshem nr e atyre qe i shikojne guerriljet si nje mundesi per te shfryre poshterimin e paevitueshem qe sjell nje pushtim.

    Eshte llogjike qe me rritjen e numrit te atyre qe e konsiderojne Ameriken si nje objektiv qe duhet sulmuar, rritet edhe probabiliteti i goditjeve ndaj saj.

    Nuk ekziston asnje prove qe te vertetoje se lufta ne Irak ka rritur sigurine e brendshme ne Amerike apo ka ulur aftesine e kundershtareve te saj per te realizuar sulme brenda Amerikes .... perkundrazi ajo ka shtuar nr e atyre qe mund te ndermarrin aksione te tilla. Fakti qe ushtaret amerikane jane me te ekspozuar ndaj sulmit nuk ka si rrjedhim llogjik rritjen e sigurise brenda Amerikes, apo percaktimin e axhendes se kundershtareve te tyre.
    Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga Orku : 27-08-2003 mė 14:36

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    xumparja
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    O Orku, rritja e sigurise nuk matet me metra ose me kg.
    A ka kampe me pak per stervitje terroristesh?
    A i trembi Libirat e Sirite e botes, duke u dhene mesazh, se po i stervitet e i mbajtet do ju ndodhi si me Sadamin?
    Keto tte gjitha rrisin sigurine. Siguria si koncept eshte shume subjektiv, dhe gjerat nuk ndodhin brenda nates.
    Ngadale ngadale, te gjithe per lesh do shkojne, terrorristet ta kam llafin, dhe deri me sot, problemi me i madh i Amerikes ishte ish-presidenti Klinton, qe terhiqej sapo shkrepej nje pushke dhe ishte i paqendrueshem e jo konsekuent.
    Tani dihet pozicioni i amerikes, kartat jane mbi tavoline.
    Vepra dhe reagimi
    Miqte po dhe armiqte e usa e dine cu pret, si njera si tjetra pale.
    Dhe kjo me ne fund eshte kthim tek politika e Reaganit qe fitoi luften e ftohte.
    Ky eshte mesazhi me i rendesishem qe mund ti jepej botes.
    Gjerat jane te qarta. Nese ndihmone, stervit financon e perkrah terroriste, Amerika do te te marre shpirtin, te pakten te gjitha vendet e botes e ndjejne veten te paralajmeruara.
    Tani eshte thjesht ceshtje vleresimi te rrezikut me te cilin shtetet qe sponsorizojne historikisht terrorrizmin duan te perballen.
    Pra Amerika u tregoi se retorika e Frances, Kines ose Rusise nuk mund ti shpetoje dot nga ndeshkimi.
    Libia, firmosi aktin e pergjegjesise per bomben e Pan Am. Siria po fillon te hape dyrt e burgjeve per ekspertet amerikane, Saudia e mori mesazhin me mospublikimin e faqeve ne raportin e 11 shtatorit.
    Keshtu fillojne gjerat me ngadale, dhe do rregullohen, jo sot ke frike neser ne mengjes zgjohesh i sigurte.
    Si fillim, cdo profesionist do te te thote, qe pa mbeshtetje nga nje qeveri nuk mund te arrish shume, prandaj dhe po u pritet mbeshtetja nga qeverite terroristeve.
    Si thua ti a hynte dot terrorrist ne kohe te Enverit e mos ta dinte Sigurimi e Enveri ne shqiperi?
    Po dhe Iraku, Siria, Irani, saudia etj, jane si Shqiperia ne vaktit, dhe nuk ka asnje lloj mundesie te mos jene ditur nga qeveria per kampet terrorriste, kurimi i tyre etj, etj.
    Ate mund ta hajne naivet e Evropes perendimore dhe amerikanet, por ne qe e kemi provuar diktaturen e dime se asgje nuk behej pa e ditur sherbimi sekret i Sadamit, i Sirise apo Iranit.
    E pra ja ku fillohet, me 2 shembuj, afganistanin dhe Irakun, pra paralajmerimet kane dale.
    Te shofim sa do e kerkojne rrezikun kusuri.....
    Qetesi!
    Shoket lexojne!

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    P.s Te pakten ky eshte mendimi im.
    Qetesi!
    Shoket lexojne!

  14. #74
    Survivor Maska e Orku
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    Per dijenine tende deri me sot nuk eshte provuar asnje lidhje e rrjetit te Al-Qaedes me qeverite e Sirise, Arabise Saudite, Irakut apo Libise.

    Me kete dua te them se ato qeveri jane vertete diktatura apo teokraci por kjo nuk do te thote qe sponsorizojne sulme ndaj SHBA. Askush prej tyre nuk do te guxonte ta bente sepse do te humbiste pushtetin.

    Sa kampe mbylli SHBA ne Irak ?

    Une dua te di cila eshte goditja reale qe SHBA i ka dhene terrorizmit me luften ne Irak. Sot sipas SHBA-se, ne Irak po futen terroriste nga te gjitha anet ... gje qe do te thote se Iraku sot eshte nje kongregacion me i madh terrorizmi nga sa ishte dje.

    Nese Iraku u pushtua qe vendet e tjera te mos perkrahin terrorizmin, kjo nuk ka llogjike pasi askund nuk eshte provuar qe Iraku mbeshteste terrorizmin ... per me teper aktiviteti terrorist ne Irak eshte zhvilluar pikerisht pas luftes.

    Sidoqofte replika ime i referohej nje paragrafi qe pretendonte se lufta kishte monopolizuar Irakun si sheshin e betejes me terrorizmin gje qe mua me kujton nje barcelate kur nje i dehur i bere tape qe kishte humbur celesin e shtepise e kerkonte ate vetem aty ku kishte drite.

  15. #75
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    Maunat pėrplot me kufoma Amerikane nė kufirin Afgan


    Gazeta ruse “Nove izvestije” bėn tė ditur se mauna frigoriferi pranė kufirit Afgan mbushen pėrplot me kufoma tė ushtarėve amerikanė.

    Njė burim pranė shtatmadhėrisė sė ushtrisė ruse bėn tė ditur se udhėheqėsia ushtarake amerikane qėllimisht nuk publikon kėto lajme, ngase frikohet nga reagimet e opinionit tė gjerė amerikan.

    Nga ana tjetėr, agjensioni egjiptas i lajmeve pohon se ekzistojnė informata tė cilat bėjnė tė ditur se humbjet reale nė rradhėt e forcave amerikane nė Irak janė dyfish mė tė mėdha se ajo qė e publikon ministria amerikane e mbrojtjes, ngase numri i ushtarėve amerikanė tė cilėt janė lėnduar arrinė deri nė 827.


    Ish-ministri britanez deklaron: Sulmet e 11 shtatorit janė komplot amerikan


    Ish-ministri britanez i mjedisit nė qeverinė e Toni Blerit, Michael Meacher, i cili udhėhiqte kėtė ministri nė qeverinė britanike nga maji i vitit 1997 deri nė qershor tė vitit 2003, thotė se SHBA-tė qėllimisht nuk kanė ndėrmarrė asgjė pėr tė penguar sulmet e 11 shtatorit tė viti 2001, e pėr tė cilat sulme ka pasur njohuri, me qėllim qė tė njėjtat t’i merr si arsye pėr tė dominuar me botėn.

    Michael Meacher nė njė deklaratė tė dhėnė pėr gazetėn “Guardian” thotė: “Lufta tė cilėn ėshtė duke e zhvilluar SHBA-ja kundėr terrorizmit nuk ėshtė asgjė tjetėr pėrveēse si mbulesė e rrejshme e cila do tė shėrbente pėr realizimin e qėllimeve politiko-strategjike nė domen sa mė tė gjėrė”.

    Ai poashtu ka shtuar se lufta ndėrkombėtare kundėr terrorizmit pėrmban tipare tė legjendės politike e cila ėshtė plasuar pėr tė pėrgaditur terrenin pėr disa agjenda tėrėsisht tė ndryshme tė cilat personifikohen nė tentimin e SHBA-ve pėr tė dominuar me botėn pėrmes dominimit me burimet e naftės.

    Michael Meacher poashtu ka thėnė se sulmet e 11 shtatorit krijuan ambient pėr sulmin mbi Afganistanin dhe se SHBA-tė kanė pasur pėr qėllim qė tė venė nėn ifluencėn e tyre shtetet e Gjirit, pa marrė parasysh se a ėshtė nė krye tė Irakut Sadami apo jo. Ai njashtu thotė se njė raport i shėrbimeve sekrete nė vitin 1999 ka tėrhequr vėrejtjen se ėshtė e mundshme qė vetėvrasės nga rrjeti i Al-Kaides ndoshta mund tė sulmojnė me aeroplan tė mbushur me mjete shpėrthyese Pentagonin, Qendrėn e CIA-sė apo Shtėpinė e Bardhė.

    Ambasada e SHBA-ve nė Britani shprehi keqardhje pėr kėto deklarata tė ish-ministrit britanez dhe i cilėsoi si imagjinatė, e posaqėrisht pretendimet e tij se SHBA-tė qėllimisht nuk kanė ndėrmarrė asgjė pėr tė penguar sulmet e 11 shtatorit.

  16. #76
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    ATHINE (9 Tetor 2003)

    Sipas raportit secret tė policisė greke, tė cilin e nxjerr nė dritė gazeta proqeveritare "To Vima", krimi i organizuar gjatė dy viteve tė fundit ka marrė pėrmasa shqetėsuese dhe aferat pėrkatėse kanė shėnuar gjatė periudhės nė fjalė njė rritje prej 100 pėrqind. Raporti ka shqyrtuar vetėm rastet qė i pėrkasin zonės sė gjerė tė kryqytetit dhe rrethinave tė tij, pėr tė kumtuar pėrfundimin se nė kėtė zonė krimi i organizuar kontrollohet nga 6 grupe tė mėdha, me mė shumė se 100 pjesėtarė. Nė trafikun e drogės ėshtė konstatuar rritja e bashkėpunimit ndėrmjet trafikantėve grekė dhe karteleve kolumbiane tė drogės, por edhe grupeve tė organizuara nė Holandė dhe Spanjė.

    Po ashtu raporti konfirmon lidhjet e ngushta ndėrmjet trafikantėve grekė dhe atyre shqiptarė, kryesisht nė trafikun e kanabisit dhe tė heroinės. Njė tjetėr biznes tepėr fitimprurės ėshtė ai i kontrabandės sė cigareve. Shumė nga rrjetet e prostitucionit preferojnė t'i investojnė fitimet e tyre nė bursėn e Athinės, vėrehet nė raport.

    www.BBC.com

  17. #77
    i/e regjistruar Maska e Skerdi Sika
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    A thuhet gjė atje te ai raport pėr praktikat ēnjerėzore tė autoriteteve greke kundrejt imigrantėve, tė cilat i hedhin dashur-padashr njerėzit hallexhi nė krahė tė trafikuesve?

  18. #78
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    Udhėheqėsit e Apekut zotohen tė intensifikojnė luftėn kundėr terrorizmit

    21 tetor 2003, 17:35 UTC


    Udhėheqėsit e vendeve tė Azi-Paqėsorit i dhanė fund takimit dy-ditėsh tė nivelit tė lartė nė Bankok me thirrjen pėr rifillimin e bisedimeve globale mbi tregtinė dhe me premtimin pėr tė instensifikuar luftėn e tyre tė pėrbashkėt kundėr terrorizmit.

    Nė njė deklaratė tė pėrbashkėt, ata thanė se njė raund i ri bisedimesh globale mbi tregtinė ėshtė i nevojshėm pas dėshtimit tė negociatave tė fundit nė Kankun tė Meksikės. Udhėheqėsit e 21 vendeve anėtare tė Apekut premtuan gjithashtu se do tė bashkėrendojnė mė mirė pėrpjekjet pėr tė shkatėrruar grupet terroriste rajonale qė kėrcėnojnė ekonomitė e tyre. Veē kėsaj, ata ranė dakord tė kufizojnė ndjeshėm pėrdorimin dhe shitjen e raketave portative, tė cilat mund tė pėrdoren pėr tė rrėzuar avionė dhe shprehėn mbėshtetjen pėr vazhdimin e bisedimeve gjashtė-palėshe mbi krizėn bėrthamore me Korenė e Veriut.

    //rd/
    "Babai i shtetit ėshtė Ismail "Qemali", e zbuloi Edvin shkencėtari!"

  19. #79
    Perjashtuar nga Mod. Maska e Klevis2000
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    OKB vendos me shumice votash per mosngritjen e murit ne Palestine nga israeli .Te gjithe vendet EUROPIANE votojne pro pervec Amerikes e cila ihste kundra dhe Austrialise e cila apstenon.

    NE SIatell dhe ne disa vende te tjera moti eshte keqesuar Sa gjithcka eshte perbutur keto jane paraljmerime ndaj administrates se BUshit i cili po e shton arrogancene tij dita-dites ndaj vendeve te pafajshme Islame.
    Fotografitė e Bashkėngjitura Fotografitė e Bashkėngjitura  

  20. #80
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    Saturday, November 15, 2003
    by Stephen F. Hayes




    Usama bin Laden (search) and Saddam Hussein (search) had an operational relationship from the early 1990s to 2003 that involved training in explosives and weapons of mass destruction, logistical support for terrorist attacks, Al Qaeda training camps and safe haven in Iraq, and Iraqi financial support for Al Qaeda - perhaps even for Mohamed Atta - according to a top secret U.S. government memorandum obtained by The Weekly Standard.





    The memo, dated October 27, 2003, was sent from Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas J. Feith (search) to Senators Pat Roberts and Jay Rockefeller, the chairman and vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. It was written in response to a request from the committee as part of its investigation into prewar intelligence claims made by the administration. Intelligence reporting included in the 16-page memo comes from a variety of domestic and foreign agencies, including the FBI, the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Central Intelligence Agency, and the National Security Agency. Much of the evidence is detailed, conclusive, and corroborated by multiple sources. Some of it is new information obtained in custodial interviews with high-level Al Qaeda terrorists and Iraqi officials, and some of it is more than a decade old. The picture that emerges is one of a history of collaboration between two of America's most determined and dangerous enemies.

    According to the memo, which lays out the intelligence in 50 numbered points, Iraq-Al Qaeda contacts began in 1990 and continued through mid-March 2003, days before the Iraq War began. Most of the numbered passages contain straight, fact-based intelligence reporting, which in some cases includes an evaluation of the credibility of the source. This reporting is often followed by commentary and analysis.

    The relationship began shortly before the first Gulf War. According to reporting in the memo, bin Laden sent "emissaries to Jordan in 1990 to meet with Iraqi government officials." At some unspecified point in 1991, according to a CIA analysis, "Iraq sought Sudan's assistance to establish links to Al Qaeda." The outreach went in both directions. According to 1993 CIA reporting cited in the memo, "bin Laden wanted to expand his organization's capabilities through ties with Iraq."

    The primary go-between throughout these early stages was Sudanese strongman Hassan al-Turabi, a leader of the Al Qaeda-affiliated National Islamic Front (search). Numerous sources have confirmed this. One defector reported that "al-Turabi was instrumental in arranging the Iraqi-Al Qaeda relationship. The defector said Iraq sought Al Qaeda influence through its connections with Afghanistan, to facilitate the transshipment of proscribed weapons and equipment to Iraq. In return, Iraq provided Al Qaeda with training and instructors."

    One such confirmation came in a postwar interview with one of Saddam Hussein's henchmen. As the memo details:

    4. According to a May 2003 debriefing of a senior Iraqi intelligence officer, Iraqi intelligence established a highly secretive relationship with Egyptian Islamic Jihad , and later with Al Qaeda. The first meeting in 1992 between the Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS) and Al Qaeda was brokered by al-Turabi. Former IIS deputy director Faruq Hijazi and senior Al Qaeda leader [Ayman al] Zawahiri were at the meeting - the first of several between 1992 and 1995 in Sudan. Additional meetings between Iraqi intelligence and Al Qaeda were held in Pakistan. Members of Al Qaeda would sometimes visit Baghdad where they would meet the Iraqi intelligence chief in a safe house. The report claimed that Saddam insisted the relationship with Al Qaeda be kept secret. After 9/11, the source said Saddam made a personnel change in the IIS for fear the relationship would come under scrutiny from foreign probes.



    A decisive moment in the budding relationship came in 1993, when bin Laden faced internal resistance to his cooperation with Saddam.

    5. A CIA report from a contact with good access, some of whose reporting has been corroborated, said that certain elements in the "Islamic Army" of bin Laden were against the secular regime of Saddam. Overriding the internal factional strife that was developing, bin Laden came to an "understanding" with Saddam that the Islamic Army would no longer support anti-Saddam activities. According to sensitive reporting released in U.S. court documents during the African Embassy trial, in 1993 bin Laden reached an "understanding" with Saddam under which he (bin Laden) forbade Al Qaeda operations to be mounted against the Iraqi leader.

    Another facilitator of the relationship during the mid-1990s was Mahmdouh Mahmud Salim (a.k.a. Abu Hajer al-Iraqi). Abu Hajer, now in a New York prison, was described in court proceedings related to the August 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania as bin Laden¹s "best friend." According to CIA reporting dating back to the Clinton administration, bin Laden trusted him to serve as a liaison with Saddam's regime and tasked him with procurement of weapons of mass destruction for Al Qaeda. FBI reporting in the memo reveals that Abu Hajer "visited Iraq in early 1995" and "had a good relationship with Iraqi intelligence. Sometime before mid-1995 he went on an Al Qaeda mission to discuss unspecified cooperation with the Iraqi government."

    Some of the reporting about the relationship throughout the mid-1990s comes from a source who had intimate knowledge of bin Laden and his dealings. This source, according to CIA analysis, offered "the most credible information" on cooperation between bin Laden and Iraq.

    This source's reports read almost like a diary. Specific dates of when bin Laden flew to various cities are included, as well as names of individuals he met. The source did not offer information on the substantive talks during the meetings. . . . There are not a great many reports in general on the relationship between bin Laden and Iraq because of the secrecy surrounding it. But when this source with close access provided a "window" into bin Laden's activities, bin Laden is seen as heavily involved with Iraq (and Iran).

    Reporting from the early 1990s remains somewhat sketchy, though multiple sources place Hassan al-Turabi and Ayman al Zawahiri (search), bin Laden's current No. 2, at the center of the relationship. The reporting gets much more specific in the mid-1990s:

    8. Reporting from a well placed source disclosed that bin Laden was receiving training on bomb making from the IIS's [Iraqi Intelligence Service] principal technical expert on making sophisticated explosives, Brigadier Salim al-Ahmed. Brigadier Salim was observed at bin Laden's farm in Khartoum in Sept.-Oct. 1995 and again in July 1996, in the company of the Director of Iraqi Intelligence, Mani abd-al-Rashid al-Tikriti.

    9 . . . Bin Laden visited Doha, Qatar (17-19 Jan. 1996), staying at the residence of a member of the Qatari ruling family. He discussed the successful movement of explosives into Saudi Arabia, and operations targeted against U.S. and U.K. interests in Dammam, Dharan, and Khobar, using clandestine Al Qaeda cells in Saudi Arabia. Upon his return, bin Laden met with Hijazi and Turabi, among others.

    And later more reporting, from the same "well placed" source:

    10. The Director of Iraqi Intelligence, Mani abd-al-Rashid al-Tikriti, met privately with bin Laden at his farm in Sudan in July 1996. Tikriti used an Iraqi delegation traveling to Khartoum to discuss bilateral cooperation as his "cover" for his own entry into Sudan to meet with bin Laden and Hassan al-Turabi. The Iraqi intelligence chief and two other IIS officers met at bin Laden¹s farm and discussed bin Laden¹s request for IIS technical assistance in: a) making letter and parcel bombs; b) making bombs which could be placed on aircraft and detonated by changes in barometric pressure; and c) making false passport [sic]. Bin Laden specifically requested that [Brigadier Salim al-Ahmed], Iraqi intelligence's premier explosives maker‹especially skilled in making car bombs‹remain with him in Sudan. The Iraqi intelligence chief instructed Salim to remain in Sudan with bin Laden as long as required.

    The analysis of those events follows:

    The time of the visit from the IIS director was a few weeks after the Khobar Towers bombing. The bombing came on the third anniversary of a U.S. [Tomahawk missile] strike on IIS HQ (retaliation for the attempted assassination of former President Bush in Kuwait) for which Iraqi officials explicitly threatened retaliation.

    In addition to the contacts clustered in the mid-1990s, intelligence reports detail a flurry of activities in early 1998 and again in December 1998. A "former senior Iraqi intelligence officer" reported that "the Iraqi intelligence service station in Pakistan was Baghdad's point of contact with Al Qaeda. He also said bin Laden visited Baghdad in Jan. 1998 and met with Tariq Aziz."

    11. According to sensitive reporting, Saddam personally sent Faruq Hijazi, IIS deputy director and later Iraqi ambassador to Turkey, to meet with bin Laden at least twice, first in Sudan and later in Afghanistan in 1999. . . .

    14. According to a sensitive reporting [from] a "regular and reliable source," [Ayman al] Zawahiri, a senior Al Qaeda operative, visited Baghdad and met with the Iraqi Vice President on 3 February 1998. The goal of the visit was to arrange for coordination between Iraq and bin Laden and establish camps in an-Nasiriyah and Iraqi Kurdistan under the leadership of Abdul Aziz.

    That visit came as the Iraqis intensified their defiance of the U.N. inspection regime, known as UNSCOM, created by the cease-fire agreement following the Gulf War. UNSCOM (search) demanded access to Saddam's presidential palaces that he refused to provide. As the tensions mounted, President Bill Clinton went to the Pentagon on February 18, 1998, and prepared the nation for war. He warned of "an unholy axis of terrorists, drug traffickers, and organized international criminals" and said "there is no more clear example of this threat than Saddam Hussein."

    The day after this speech, according to documents unearthed in April 2003 in the Iraqi Intelligence headquarters by journalists Mitch Potter and Inigo Gilmore, Saddam's intelligence service wrote a memo detailing coming meetings with a bin Laden representative traveling to Baghdad. Each reference to bin Laden had been covered by liquid paper that, when revealed, exposed a plan to increase cooperation between Iraq and Al Qaeda. According to that memo, the IIS agreed to pay for "all the travel and hotel costs inside Iraq to gain the knowledge of the message from bin Laden and to convey to his envoy an oral message from us to bin Laden." The document set as the goal for the meeting a discussion of "the future of our relationship with him, bin Laden, and to achieve a direct meeting with him." The Al Qaeda representative, the document went on to suggest, might provide "a way to maintain contacts with bin Laden."

    Four days later, on February 23, 1998, bin Laden issued his now-famous fatwa on the plight of Iraq, published in the Arabic-language daily, al Quds al-Arabi: "For over seven years the United States has been occupying the lands of Islam in the holiest of places, the Arabian Peninsula, plundering its riches, dictating to its rulers, humiliating its people, terrorizing its neighbors, and turning its bases in the Peninsula into a spearhead through which to fight the neighboring Muslim peoples." Bin Laden urged his followers to act: "The ruling to kill all Americans and their allies‹civilians and military‹is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it."

    Although war was temporarily averted by a last-minute deal brokered by U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan, tensions soon rose again. The standoff with Iraq came to a head in December 1998, when President Clinton launched Operation Desert Fox (search), a 70-hour bombing campaign that began on December 16 and ended three days later, on December 19, 1998.

    According to press reports at the time, Faruq Hijazi, deputy director of Iraqi Intelligence, met with bin Laden in Afghanistan on December 21, 1998, to offer bin Laden safe haven in Iraq. CIA reporting in the memo to the Senate Intelligence Committee seems to confirm this meeting and relates two others.

    15. A foreign government service reported that an Iraqi delegation, including at least two Iraqi intelligence officers formerly assigned to the Iraqi Embassy in Pakistan, met in late 1998 with bin Laden in Afghanistan.

    16. According to CIA reporting, bin Laden and Zawahiri met with two Iraqi intelligence officers in Afghanistan in Dec. 1998.

    17. . . . Iraq sent an intelligence officer to Afghanistan to seek closer ties to bin Laden and the Taliban in late 1998. The source reported that the Iraqi regime was trying to broaden its cooperation with Al Qaeda. Iraq was looking to recruit Muslim "elements" to sabotage U.S. and U.K. interests. After a senior Iraqi intelligence officer met with Taliban leader [Mullah] Omar, arrangements were made for a series of meetings between the Iraqi intelligence officer and bin Laden in Pakistan. The source noted Faruq Hijazi was in Afghanistan in late 1998.

    18. . . . Faruq Hijazi went to Afghanistan in 1999 along with several other Iraqi officials to meet with bin Laden. The source claimed that Hijazi would have met bin Laden only at Saddam¹s explicit direction.

    An analysis that follows No. 18 provides additional context and an explanation of these reports:

    Reporting entries #4, #11, #15, #16, #17, and #18, from different sources, corroborate each other and provide confirmation of meetings between Al Qaeda operatives and Iraqi intelligence in Afghanistan and Pakistan. None of the reports have information on operational details or the purpose of such meetings. The covert nature of the relationship would indicate strict compartmentation [sic] of operations.

    Information about connections between Al Qaeda and Iraq was so widespread by early 1999 that it made its way into the mainstream press. A January 11, 1999, Newsweek story ran under this headline: "Saddam + Bin Laden?" The story cited an "Arab intelligence source" with knowledge of contacts between Iraq and Al Qaeda. "According to this source, Saddam expected last month's American and British bombing campaign to go on much longer than it did. The dictator believed that as the attacks continued, indignation would grow in the Muslim world, making his terrorism offensive both harder to trace and more effective. With acts of terror contributing to chaos in the region, Turkey, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait might feel less inclined to support Washington. Saddam's long-term strategy, according to several sources, is to bully or cajole Muslim countries into breaking the embargo against Iraq, without waiting for the United Nations to lift if formally."

    Intelligence reports about the nature of the relationship between Iraq and Al Qaeda from mid-1999 through 2003 are conflicting. One senior Iraqi intelligence officer in U.S. custody, Khalil Ibrahim Abdallah, "said that the last contact between the IIS and Al Qaeda was in July 1999. Bin Laden wanted to meet with Saddam, he said. The guidance sent back from Saddam¹s office reportedly ordered Iraqi intelligence to refrain from any further contact with bin Laden and Al Qaeda. The source opined that Saddam wanted to distance himself from Al Qaeda."

    The bulk of reporting on the relationship contradicts this claim. One report states that "in late 1999" Al Qaeda set up a training camp in northern Iraq that "was operational as of 1999." Other reports suggest that the Iraqi regime contemplated several offers of safe haven to bin Laden throughout 1999.

    23. . . . Iraqi officials were carefully considering offering safe haven to bin Laden and his closest collaborators in Nov. 1999. The source indicated the idea was put forward by the presumed head of Iraqi intelligence in Islamabad (Khalid Janaby) who in turn was in frequent contact and had good relations with bin Laden.

    Some of the most intriguing intelligence concerns an Iraqi named Ahmed Hikmat Shakir:

    24. According to sensitive reporting, a Malaysia-based Iraqi national (Shakir) facilitated the arrival of one of the Sept 11 hijackers for an operational meeting in Kuala Lumpur (Jan 2000). Sensitive reporting indicates Shakir¹s travel and contacts link him to a worldwide network of terrorists, including Al Qaeda. Shakir worked at the Kuala Lumpur airport‹a job he claimed to have obtained through an Iraqi embassy employee.

    One of the men at that Al Qaeda operational meeting in the Kuala Lumpur Hotel was Tawfiz al Atash, a top bin Laden lieutenant later identified as the mastermind of the October 12, 2000, attack on the USS Cole.

    25. Investigation into the bombing of the USS Cole in October 2000 by Al Qaeda revealed no specific Iraqi connections but according to the CIA, "fragmentary evidence points to possible Iraqi involvement."

    26. During a custodial interview, Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi [a senior Al Qaeda operative] said he was told by an Al Qaeda associate that he was tasked to travel to Iraq (1998) to establish a relationship with Iraqi intelligence to obtain poisons and gases training. After the USS Cole bombing in 2000, two Al Qaeda operatives were sent to Iraq for CBW-related [Chemical and Biological Weapons] training beginning in Dec 2000. Iraqi intelligence was "encouraged" after the embassy and USS Cole bombings to provide this training.

    The analysis of this report follows.

    CIA maintains that Ibn al-Shaykh's timeline is consistent with other sensitive reporting indicating that bin Laden asked Iraq in 1998 for advanced weapons, including CBW and "poisons."

    Additional reporting also calls into question the claim that relations between Iraq and Al Qaeda cooled after mid-1999:

    27. According to sensitive CIA reporting, . . . the Saudi National Guard went on a kingdom-wide state of alert in late Dec 2000 after learning Saddam agreed to assist Al Qaeda in attacking U.S./U.K. interests in Saudi Arabia.

    And then there is the alleged contact between lead 9/11 hijacker Mohamed Atta and an Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague. The reporting on those links suggests not one meeting, but as many as four. What¹s more, the memo reveals potential financing of Atta's activities by Iraqi intelligence.

    The Czech counterintelligence service reported that the Sept. 11 hijacker [Mohamed] Atta met with the former Iraqi intelligence chief in Prague, [Ahmed Khalil Ibrahim Samir] al Ani, on several occasions. During one of these meetings, al Ani ordered the IIS finance officer to issue Atta funds from IIS financial holdings in the Prague office.

    And the commentary:

    CIA can confirm two Atta visits to Prague‹in Dec. 1994 and in June 2000; data surrounding the other two, on 26 Oct 1999 and 9 April 2001, is complicated and sometimes contradictory and CIA and FBI cannot confirm Atta met with the IIS. Czech Interior Minister Stanislav Gross continues to stand by his information.

    It's not just Gross who stands by the information. Five high-ranking members of the Czech government have publicly confirmed meetings between Atta and al Ani. The meeting that has gotten the most press attention ,April 9, 2001, is also the most widely disputed. Even some of the most hawkish Bush administration officials are privately skeptical that Atta met al Ani on that occasion. They believe that reports of the alleged meeting, said to have taken place in public, outside the headquarters of the U.S.-financed Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, suggest a level of sloppiness that doesn¹t fit the pattern of previous high-level Iraq-Al Qaeda contacts.

    Whether or not that specific meeting occurred, the report by Czech counterintelligence that al Ani ordered the Iraqi Intelligence Service officer to provide IIS funds to Atta might help explain the lead hijacker's determination to reach Prague, despite significant obstacles, in the spring of 2000. (Note that the report stops short of confirming that the funds were transferred. It claims only that the IIS officer requested the transfer.) Recall that Atta flew to Prague from Germany on May 30, 2000, but was denied entry because he did not have a valid visa. Rather than simply return to Germany and fly directly to the United States, his ultimate destination, Atta took pains to get to Prague. After he was refused entry the first time, he traveled back to Germany, obtained the proper paperwork, and caught a bus back to Prague. He left for the United States the day after arriving in Prague for the second time.

    Several reports indicate that the relationship between Saddam and bin Laden continued, even after the September 11 attacks:

    31. An Oct. 2002 . . . report said Al Qaeda and Iraq reached a secret agreement whereby Iraq would provide safe haven to Al Qaeda members and provide them with money and weapons. The agreement reportedly prompted a large number of Al Qaeda members to head to Iraq. The report also said that Al Qaeda members involved in a fraudulent passport network for Al Qaeda had been directed to procure 90 Iraqi and Syrian passports for Al Qaeda personnel.

    The analysis that accompanies that report indicates that the report fits the pattern of Iraq-Al Qaeda collaboration:

    References to procurement of false passports from Iraq and offers of safe haven previously have surfaced in CIA source reporting considered reliable. Intelligence reports to date have maintained that Iraqi support for Al Qaeda usually involved providing training, obtaining passports, and offers of refuge. This report adds to that list by including weapons and money. This assistance would make sense in the aftermath of 9-11.

    Colin Powell, in his February 5, 2003, presentation to the U.N. Security Council, revealed the activities of Abu Musab al Zarqawi. Reporting in the memo expands on Powell's case and might help explain some of the resistance the U.S. military is currently facing in Iraq.

    37. Sensitive reporting indicates senior terrorist planner and close Al Qaeda associate al Zarqawi has had an operational alliance with Iraqi officials. As of Oct. 2002, al Zarqawi maintained contacts with the IIS to procure weapons and explosives, including surface-to-air missiles from an IIS officer in Baghdad. According to sensitive reporting, al Zarqawi was setting up sleeper cells in Baghdad to be activated in case of a U.S. occupation of the city, suggesting his operational cooperation with the Iraqis may have deepened in recent months. Such cooperation could include IIS provision of a secure operating bases [sic] and steady access to arms and explosives in preparation for a possible U.S. invasion. Al Zarqawi¹s procurements from the Iraqis also could support Al Qaeda operations against the U.S. or its allies elsewhere.

    38. According to sensitive reporting, a contact with good access who does not have an established reporting record: An Iraqi intelligence service officer said that as of mid-March the IIS was providing weapons to Al Qaeda members located in northern Iraq, including rocket propelled grenade (RPG)-18 launchers. According to IIS information, northern Iraq-based Al Qaeda members believed that the U.S. intended to strike Al Qaeda targets during an anticipated assault against Ansar al-Islam positions.

    The memo further reported pre-war intelligence which "claimed that an Iraqi intelligence official, praising Ansar al-Islam, provided it with $100,000 and agreed to continue to give assistance."

    Critics of the Bush administration have complained that Iraq-Al Qaeda connections are a fantasy, trumped up by the warmongers at the White House to fit their preconceived notions about international terror; that links between Saddam Hussein and Usama bin Laden have been routinely "exaggerated" for political purposes; that hawks "cherry-picked" bits of intelligence and tendentiously presented these to the American public.

    Carl Levin, a senior member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, made those points as recently as November 9, in an appearance on Fox News Sunday. Republicans on the committee, he complained, refuse to look at the administration¹s "exaggeration of intelligence."

    Said Levin: "The question is whether or not they exaggerated intelligence in order to carry out their purpose, which was to make the case for going to war. Did we know, for instance, with certainty that there was any relationship between the Iraqis and the terrorists that were in Afghanistan, bin Laden? The administration said that there's a connection between those terrorist groups in Afghanistan and Iraq. Was there a basis for that?"

    There was, as shown in the memo to the committee on which Levin serves. And much of the reporting comes from Clinton-era intelligence. Not that you would know this from Al Gore¹s recent public statements. Indeed, the former vice president claims to be privy to new "evidence" that the administration lied. In an August speech at New York University, Gore claimed: "The evidence now shows clearly that Saddam did not want to work with Usama bin Laden at all, much less give him weapons of mass destruction." Really?

    One of the most interesting things to note about the 16-page memo is that it covers only a fraction of the evidence that will eventually be available to document the relationship between Iraq and Al Qaeda. For one thing, both Saddam and bin Laden were desperate to keep their cooperation secret. (Remember, Iraqi intelligence used liquid paper on an internal intelligence document to conceal bin Laden's name.) For another, few people in the U.S. government are expressly looking for such links. There is no Iraq-Al Qaeda equivalent of the CIA's 1,400-person Iraq Survey Group currently searching Iraq for weapons of mass destruction.

    Instead, CIA and FBI officials are methodically reviewing Iraqi intelligence files that survived the three-week war last spring. These documents would cover several miles if laid end-to-end. And they are in Arabic. They include not only connections between bin Laden and Saddam, but also revolting details of the regime's long history of brutality. It will be a slow process.

    So Feith's memo to the Senate Intelligence Committee is best viewed as sort of a "Cliff¹s Notes" version of the relationship. It contains the highlights, but it is far from exhaustive.

    One example. The memo contains only one paragraph on Ahmed Hikmat Shakir, the Iraqi facilitator who escorted two September 11 hijackers through customs in Kuala Lumpur. U.S. intelligence agencies have extensive reporting on his activities before and after the September 11 hijacking. That they would include only this brief overview suggests the 16-page memo, extensive as it is, just skims the surface of the reporting on Iraq-Al Qaeda connections.

    Other intelligence reports indicate that Shakir whisked not one but two September 11 hijackers - Khalid al Midhar and Nawaq al Hamzi - through the passport and customs process upon their arrival in Kuala Lumpur on January 5, 2000. Shakir then traveled with the hijackers to the Kuala Lumpur Hotel where they met with Ramzi bin al Shibh, one of the masterminds of the September 11 plot. The meeting lasted three days. Shakir returned to work on January 9 and January 10, and never again.

    Shakir got his airport job through a contact at the Iraqi Embassy. (Iraq routinely used its embassies as staging grounds for its intelligence operations; in some cases, more than half of the alleged "diplomats" were intelligence operatives.) The Iraqi embassy, not his employer, controlled Shakir¹s schedule. He was detained in Qatar on September 17, 2001. Authorities found in his possession contact information for terrorists involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, the 1998 embassy bombings, the 2000 `ck on the USS Cole, and the September 11 hijackings. The CIA had previous reporting that Shakir had received a phone call from the safe house where the 1993 World Trade Center attacks had been plotted.

    The Qataris released Shakir shortly after his arrest. On October 21, 2001, he flew to Amman, Jordan, where he was to change planes to a flight to Baghdad. He didn¹t make that flight. Shakir was detained in Jordan for three months, where the CIA interrogated him. His interrogators concluded that Shakir had received extensive training in counter-interrogation techniques. Not long after he was detained, according to an official familiar with the intelligence, the Iraqi regime began to "pressure" Jordanian intelligence to release him. At the same time, Amnesty International complained that Shakir was being held without charge. The Jordanians released him on January 28, 2002, at which point he is believed to have fled back to Iraq.

    Was Shakir an Iraqi agent? Does he provide a connection between Saddam Hussein and September 11? We don¹t know. We may someday find out.

    But there can no longer be any serious argument about whether Saddam Hussein's Iraq worked with Usama bin Laden and Al Qaeda to plot against Americans.
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