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    Question Question about Albanian traditional clothing

    Hello!

    I do not speak Albanian. I hope that this is not a problem and that I can pose my questions in English.

    I am interested in Albanian ethnic clothing and their origins. What is the first recorded historical example of the use of plis? What could be its origins? What is that white scarf that is occasionally worn around the neck, which reminds of the tagelmust? Did it perhaps appear as a part of clothing due to Ottoman or some other influence?

    Kindest regards to anyone who can bring forth worthwhile insight!

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    Dear sir / madam
    Albanian history is quite old, as old or older than ancient Greece. Today serious studies are being conducted to solve this riddle, but it takes time, but the results are already visible through deception not only by domestic researchers but also foreign studies. Can mention German language and history researcher Robert Elsie ....https://www.facebook.com/robert.elsie1/
    Domestic studies are quite comprehensive, but at the moment, one can mention Fatbardha Demi who has studied Plis origin and according to her studies and book, Plis can be found in ancient Egypt ... Unfortunately, in the daytime the book is only in Albanian ... But I can show you a picture in reality at the Danish Museum in Copenhagen where you see a statue of Zeus Son with Plis on the head ... and hope you understand how old is Plis ...
    It is just worn only by Albanians and never and nowhere by Greeks ...

    Son Of Zeus

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    A Dioscuros, Son of Zeus.
    Marble. Roman. 2nd century CE.
    Inv. No. 505.
    Copenhagen, New Carlsberg Glyptotek

    Zeus

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    https://new.liveauctioneers.com/item...wearing-helmet

    Fatbardha Demi

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    Odiseus

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    I guess you've never seen these pictures....

    *********

    The story that you have learned about antiquity is not true ... it has been modified and fluttered to adapt to the wishes of the 1800s where the Germans created this story of antiquity and spread in the world ... But the truth will appear as it also says in the Bible -The one who is moped (hidden) one day will come to light ....

    *******

    This you can find in Jewish museum in New York. For more pictures scroll down on the page:

    http://thejewishmuseum.org/collectio...breaker-stoned

    Moses:

    https://www.wikiart.org/en/james-tissot/moses

    Scroll down in Load more page 260 and look carefully-you will see Jesus with a man with a Plis...

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    German newspapers near the Conservative party of Angela Merkel, warns that Greece has destroyed even before the European order and has raised the Nazi theories, the historian Jakob Philipp Fallmerayer writes in an article, who said that the Greeks are not really Greek.

    According to Die Welt the critical situation in Greece is not only economic but also historical.

    The article says that the Greeks have destroyed even before the european economy, and that the Greeks of today are not descendants of ancient Greek, but a mix of Albanians, Bulgarians, Turks, Slavs, Rome etc.

    Further in the article are quoted extracts from the book of the historian Jakob Philipp Fallmerayer, "Geschichte der Halbinsel Morea Während des Mittelalters" stating that the Greek population was replaced during the period than Slavic invasions (350-800) AD.

    Greek race is a false ideology, but very well manipulated by them, who are distinguished manipulators and perfidies..No drop of blood flows in the veins of the Christians present in Greece, writes Fallmerayer.

    The newspaper goes even further proposing that membership in the European Union should be done on the basis of DNA analysis, because the Greeks who claim that are descendant of Pericles and Socrates, are nothing but a mix of Albanians, Turks, and Slavs, states the article.

    http://www.ocnal.com/2017/01/die-wel...-have.html?m=1

    Here you can see pictures from different museums with statues with plis on the head....

    http://www.forumishqiptar.com/thread...hqiptare/page5

    Have a nice day....
    Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga Rrjeti : 04-07-2017 mė 16:29

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    Pėr: Question about Albanian traditional clothing

    And what of the tagelmust, as I inquired? What are its origins in Albanian culture and when is it considered to have been brought into use for the first time?

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    Pėr: Question about Albanian traditional clothing

    Here is a list of photo albums with Albanian traditional ethnic clothing:

    http://galeria.albasoul.com/main.php?g2_itemId=3052
    http://galeria.albasoul.com/main.php?g2_itemId=3646
    http://galeria.albasoul.com/main.php?g2_itemId=3067
    http://galeria.albasoul.com/main.php?g2_itemId=3379
    http://galeria.albasoul.com/main.php?g2_itemId=3516
    http://galeria.albasoul.com/main.php?g2_itemId=3436

    Here is a list of threads in this forum on this topic. (Use Google translate to translate from Albanian to English)

    http://www.forumishqiptar.com/thread...jina-e-saj-%21
    http://www.forumishqiptar.com/thread...ve-deri-mė-sot
    http://www.forumishqiptar.com/thread...shje-popullore
    http://www.forumishqiptar.com/thread...umet-popullore
    http://www.forumishqiptar.com/thread...ė-i-Lunxhėrisė
    http://www.forumishqiptar.com/thread...rore-Shqiptare

    In terms of the history of these traditional costumes, you will not find a lot of material or straight answers. Some of these clothing items have had different uses in different historical eras.

    Please share with us here in this forum whatever new and interesting stuff you find.

    Albo

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    And what of the tagelmust, as I inquired? What are its origins in Albanian culture and when is it considered to have been brought into use for the first time?

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    ....absolutely not albanian...nor european at all!!
    Has been brought by ottomans for the replacemant of european population sterminated and enslaved with hordes of muslim asians of Middle East!
    Jarigas

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    The Turks Conquered the Balkan From the Beginning of 1352 We are on the Balkan peninsula from Zeus times and earlier while you were in Rusia, northern Africa and the Middle East - there are your origins. You have to do ADN test and then you will know your origin ... This has also told German politicians-you so-called greeks are nothing else but you are a mixture of different races and people groups there are no Greeks...Through the internet, in a few seconds we can find facts from different independent sources and this makes you crazy because you can not lie more or manipulate as you have done before ... not only those who have lied, but also your founder from 1845. It was Otto von Bismark, Victor Hygo and some others who created you as a country and called you Greeks. As a result, there were no Greeks-in 500 years....No Greek history in the Middle Ages. Wondering where you were for 500 years?!

    And something else-do you know why many statues from ancient times are headless-you have so-called Greeks done this to hide the truth that these statues were people with plis on their heads-to hide this you have simply cut off heads to hide the truth....

    DIE WELT: Greeks are not real, they have Albanian and Slavic roots

    German newspapers near the Conservative party of Angela Merkel, warns that Greece has destroyed even before the European order and has raised the Nazi theories, the historian Jakob Philipp Fallmerayer writes in an article, who said that the Greeks are not really Greek.
    According to Die Welt the critical situation in Greece is not only economic but also historical.

    The article says that the Greeks have destroyed even before the european economy, and that the Greeks of today are not descendants of ancient Greek, but a mix of Albanians, Bulgarians, Turks, Slavs, Rome etc.

    Further in the article are quoted extracts from the book of the historian Jakob Philipp Fallmerayer, "Geschichte der Halbinsel Morea Während des Mittelalters" stating that the Greek population was replaced during the period than Slavic invasions (350-800) AD.

    Greek race is a false ideology, but very well manipulated by them, who are distinguished manipulators and perfidies..No drop of blood flows in the veins of the Christians present in Greece, writes Fallmerayer.

    The newspaper goes even further proposing that membership in the European Union should be done on the basis of DNA analysis, because the Greeks who claim that are descendant of Pericles and Socrates, are nothing but a mix of Albanians, Turks, and Slavs, states the article.

    http://www.ocnal.com/2017/01/die-wel...-have.html?m=1
    Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga Rrjeti : 09-07-2017 mė 14:27

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