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    po cfare ushtrie more te humbur!

    ne nuk mbushnim barkun me buke e do luftonim armikun.

    ps.mos futni foto leshi interneti se ne i kemi perjetuar

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    Qe te mos vazhdozh te genjesh akoma ! Shikoji padronet e tu se kur i kane marre Mig 29 etj. Shikoje mire i kane marre ne 1986-ten .

    Te gjithe avionet qe kane patur ne perdorim , kane qene teknologjikisht me poshte se tanet ! Ketu nuk po flas per plehrat e tyre Yugosllave , qe i prodhonin vete , se as per qerre nuk benin !





    History


    [edit] World War II, Soviet influence
    Spitfires of the No 352 (Y) Squadron British Royal Air Force (Balkan Air Force) before first mission on August 18, 1944, from Canne, Italy

    By early 1945, Yugoslav Partisans under Marshal Tito had liberated a large portion of Yugoslav territory from the occupying forces. The NOVJ partisan army included air units trained and equipped by Britain (with Supermarine Spitfires and Hawker Hurricanes, see Balkan Air Force) and the Soviet Union (with Yak-3, Yak-7, Yak-9 and Ilyushin Il-2 aircraft) and a number of ad-hoc units equipped with aircraft captured from German Luftwaffe and Air Force of the Independent State of Croatia (Messerschmitt Bf-109G, Junkers Ju 87 Stuka and many others).

    On 5 January 1945 the various air units of the NOVJ were formally incorporated into a new Yugoslav Air Force (Jugoslovensko Ratno Vazduhoplovstvo - JRV). At the same time, a Yugoslav fighter group which had been under Soviet instruction at Zemun airfield became operational. From 17 August 1944, when the first Yugoslav Spitfire Squadron became operational, until the end of the war in Europe, Yugoslav aircraft undertook 3,500 combat sorties and accumulated 5,500 hours operational flying. Thus, when peacetime came, the JRV already possessed a strong and experienced nucleus of personnel.

    On 12 September 1945 the Military Aviation Academy in Belgrade was established to train future pilots. The development of the JRV was further helped in late 1945 with the creation of the Aeronautical Union of Yugoslavia (Vazduhoplovnni Savez Jugoslavije - VSJ). This comprised six aeronautical unions - one for each constituent republic - with the joint aim of promoting sport flying and aeronautical techniques amongst the nation's young people. In June 1947 the first VSJ flying school at Borongaj (near Zagreb) started training pupils.
    [edit] Break up relations with Soviets, US help
    Yugoslav F-84 pre-flight check-up.
    Yugoslav Canadair Sabre.

    The organization of the post-war JRV was based on the Russian pattern of Divisions, Regiments and Squadrons. Virtually all of the initial equipment was supplied by the Soviet Union - the aircraft captured during the war had quickly been retired. By the end of 1947 the JRV had reached a strength of some 40 squadrons of aircraft, and had become the most powerful air arm in the Balkans. In June 1948 Yugoslavia broke off relations with the Stalinist Soviet Union. The country was immediately subjected to extreme political pressure from the Soviet Union and its Balkan neighbors, and the JRV's previous sources of aircraft, spares and fuel were cut-off. The possibility of an invasion was taken seriously. The serviceability of JRV aircraft fell rapidly, with some aircraft being cannibalised to provide spares for the remainder. Renewed efforts to expand the small domestic aircraft industry met with some success - the Ikarus Aero 2 and Ikarus 213 Vihor trainers were followed into service by the Ikarus S-49 single-seat fighter and first Yugoslav-maiden jet aircraft Ikarus 451M.

    However, the first-line strength of the JRV was still declining, so in 1951 the Yugoslav Chief of Staff, Colonel General Koča Popović visited the United Kingdom to discuss the situation. It was agreed that a substantial shipment of aircraft would be forthcoming. In October 1951 the first de Havilland Mosquito F.B.6 fighter-bombers were supplied. The following year, 150 Republic F-47D Thunderbolt fighter-bombers were delivered from the USA under a Mutual Assistance Pact.

    The first jet aircraft to be operated by the JRV, four Lockheed T-33A jet trainers, arrived on 10 March 1953 and were soon followed by the first of 229 Republic F-84G Thunderjet fighter-bombers. Serials for the Thunderjets were from 10501 - 10729. The first eight Thunderjets, all former 48 TFW aircraft, arrived at Batajnica on June 9, 1953. At the same time, a number of Yugoslav pilots underwent jet flying training in Germany. These deliveries substantially improved the combat effectiveness of the JRV. Ten Westland Dragonfly helicopters were obtained in 1954, and in 1956, after numerous delays due to political considerations, 121 F-86E/Canadair CL-13 F.4 Sabres interceptors were delivered.
    [edit] Rebuilding Soviet support

    In 1959 the JRV was merged with the air defence units operated by the Army and became known as the Air Force and Air Defence (Ratno Vazduhoplovstvo i Protivvazdushna Odbrana - JRViPVO). Relations with the Soviet Union had drastically improved after Nikita Khrushchev became Soviet leader, and in September 1962 this led to the first MiG-21F-13 interceptors being delivered. Lack of possible aircraft for replacement of US-made fighter-bomber jets and trainers induced Yugoslav domestic aircraft industry (Soko, Utva) to make new jet trainers and fighter-bombers. After a number of prototypes, Yugoslav aircraft industry made Soko G-2 Galeb light-attack trainer jet, which partly replaced a number of Lockheed T-33 aircraft, and Galeb's single-seat version, Soko J-21 Jastreb light attack aircraft. The Galeb was big successes, and it was better than Aero L-29 Delfķn which was the main trainer aircraft in the Warsaw Pact and a number of another air forces. Thus, the Galeb was exported only to Libya. The JRViPVO also purchased a number of domestic UTVA-66 utility aircraft. Twenty-five Mi-4 medium transport helicopters were also obtained for helicopter units from USSR. At the end of 60's JRViPVO purchased a number of Soviet MiG-21's in MiG-21PFM fighter, MiG-21R reconnaissance and MiG-21U and US trainer versions, fifteen Polish Mi-2 light helicopters, twenty five Zlin Z.526M Trainer Masters for Aviation Military Academy at Zemunik airport and the delivery of Mi-8T medium transport helicopters had started.
    [edit] Evolution

    During the 1970s almost all the American jets were replaced by Soviet MiG-21 fighters and domestic attack/trainer jets. Many new projects, like new Utva 75 trainer, G-4 Super Galeb light attack/trainer jet commenced. The biggest project, Soko J-22 Orao attack aircraft made in cooperation with Romanian IAR, also started. 21 French-built Aérospatiale Gazelle were bought, and after that the Soko factory in Mostar started serial production of the license-built Soko SA.341H which was later built in many other versions. Mi-8T helicopters replaced old Mi-4, Dragonfly, Whirlwind and Mi-2 helicopters. Fighter aviation was also modernized with new MiG-21 versions, MiG-21M, MiG-21MF and MiG-21UM. Transport capability grew with the acquisition of seventeen An-26's.
    [edit] Reorganization

    The focus in the 1980s was a partial replacement of J-21 and G-2 aircraft with younger Orao and Super Galebs. The air force purchased the latest version of MiG-21, MiG-21bis, which was the last MiG-21 model. All 103 Mi-8T transport helicopters were delivered and the Soko factory had produced about 140 license-built Gazelles in various variants. JRV created its display team, Leteće Zvezde (Flying Stars) with seven Soko J-21 Jastreb aircraft which were later replaced with seven Super Galebs. In 1987, the first squadron of new modern MiG-29 fighters was purchased from USSR, making Yugoslavia the first purchaser of it. They were a temporary solution until planned production of new Novi Avion multirole aircraft.

    In 1986 the JRViPVO underwent a limited reorganization which saw its operational units grouped into three regional Corps instead of the five Corps used previously. The primary air force missions were to contest enemy efforts to establish air superiority over Yugoslavia and to support the defensive operations of the ground forces and navy. The main organization were the three corps of Air Force and Air Defence; 1st Corps of AF and AD, 2nd Corps of AF and AD and 3rd Corps of AF and AD.
    [edit] Fighter aviation
    Yugoslav MiG-29 at Batajnica, 1987.


    The main component of JRV was the fighter aviation. Most fighter aircraft were Soviet-made MiG-21 aircraft of different versions MiG-21M, MiG-21MF and MiG-21PFM from the 1970s and MiG-21Bis from the early 1980s. In 1986, JRV had purchased from USSR one squadron of MiG-29 fighter aircraft. In that period MiG-29 was one of the most advanced fighters, and Yugoslavia has become one of the first countries which bought MiG-29. Each Corps of AF and AD had one Fighter Aviation Regiment (Lovački Aviacijski Puk - LAP). The First Corps of AF and AD had the 204th Fighter Aviation Regiment. The role of this regiment was the guarding of the First Corps of AF and AD aerospace from possible aggression, especially protecting the Yugoslav capital, Belgrade, and then support of Yugoslav Peoples Army ground forces. The 204.LAP composed two fighter squadrons, 126.LAE equipped with MiG-21 Bis aircraft and 127.LAP equipped with new MiG-29's. The base of the 204th Fighter Aviation Regiment was Batajnica Airbase near Belgrade. The Third Corps of AF and AD had the 83rd Fighter Aviation Regiment (83.LAP) based at Slatina Air Base near Priština. 83rd units were equipped with MiG-21 aircraft, 123rd with older MiG-21M and MF and the 130th with MiG-21Bis. The Fifth Corps of AF and AD had the 117th Fighter Aviation Regiment at Željava Air Base. Željava was one of the best airbases in Europe, with underground runway, hangars, facilities for technical support, most advanced radars and communication equipment, sources of electricity, drinking water, fresh air, food, equipment, arms and fuel for staying 30 days without any connections with outside world. Units at Željava were 124th and 125th equipped with MiG-21 Bis fighter aircraft and 352nd equipped with MiG-21R reconnaissance-fighter aircraft.
    [edit] Ground attack aviation
    Soko J-22 Orao - Yugoslav ground attack aircraft.

    Ground Attack Aviation or Fighter-Bomber Aviation (Lovačko-Bombarderska Aviacija) was in the second plan of JRV. All attack aircraft were home-made. The new aircraft like J-22 Orao attack aircraft and G-4 Super Galeb light-attack trainer were replacing older J-21 Jastreb light-attack and G-2 Galeb light-attack trainer aircraft. The First Corps of AF and AD had two fighter-bomber squadrons and one reconnaissance squadron equipped with ground attack reconnaissance aircraft. 252nd from Batajnica Airbase was under direct command of its Corps of AF and AD (unlike other squadrons which were under the command of their Regiments/Brigades). It was equipped with older J-21 Jastreb light attack aircraft and G-2 Galeb trainer/attack aircraft, Utva-66 utility aircraft and new G-4 Super Galebs. Under command of the 97th Aviation Brigade (which was in 1st Corps of AF and AD) there was one fighter-bomber squadron, 240th, equipped with Jastrebs and one reconnaissance squadron, 353.IAE, equipped with IJ-22 Orao reconnaissance-attack aircraft. The Third Corps of AF and AD had two major fighter-bomber aviation units, 98th Aviation Brigade and 127th Fighter-Bomber Aviation Regiment. 98th Aviation Brigade from Skopski Petrovac in Macedonia had three squadrons, two fighter-bomber squadron and one reconnaissance squadron. Fighter-bomber squadrons were 241st equipped with J-22 Orao attack aircraft, 247th with Jastrebs and 354th IAE was equipped with IJ-21 Jastreb reconnaissance aircraft. 127th Fighter-Bomber Aviation Regiment at Golubovci Airbase comprised two fighter-bomber squadrons, 239th equipped with G-4 Super Galebs and 242nd equipped with Jastrebs and J-22 Orao aircraft. The Fifth Corps of AF and AD had most fighter-bomber aviation units, one Aviation Brigade and two Fighter-Bomber Aviation Regiments. 82nd Aviation Brigade, at Cerklje Airbase, Slovenia, had two fighter-bomber squadrons and one reconnaissance squadron. Two fighter-bomber squadrons were 237.LBAE equipped with J-21 and NJ-21 Jastrebs, and 238th equipped with J-22 and NJ-22 Orao aircraft. Reconnaissance squadron was 351st equipped with IJ-21 Jastreb and IJ-22 Orao reconnaissance-attack aircraft. 105th Fighter-Bomber Aviation Regiment at Zemunik-Zadar Airbase comprised two fighter-bomber aviation squadrons, 249th equipped with Super Galebs, 251st with Galebs and one aviation squadron, 333rd equipped with Utva 75 training aircraft, An-2 transport aircraft, Gazelle helicopters and Super Galebs. 185th Fighter-Bomber Aviation Regiment at Pula Airport has compos of one fighter-bomber squadron, 229th equipped with G-4 Super Galebs and one fighter squadron, 129th equipped with MiG-21 aircraft in versions MiG-21PFM, MiG-21US and MiG-21UM.
    [edit] Training units
    Soko G-4 Super Galeb advanced jet trainers.

    The Air Force Military Academy "Maršal Tito" used the 105th Fighter-Bomber Aviation Regiment from Zadar, 107th Helicopter Regiment from Mostar, 127th Fighter-Bomber Aviation Regiment from Golubovci Airbase and 185th Fighter-Bomber Aviation Regiment from Pula for training of its cadets. Cadets first learned how to fly on utility aircraft like the Utva 75. The main base was in Zadar, in 105th Fighter-Bomber Aviation Regiment, where young pilots made their first flights on Utva 75 aircraft. After they learned basics about flying in 333rd, they learned how to fly on jet aircraft in 251st on G-2 Galeb jet-trainers. When cadets mastered flying on Galeb jet trainers, they developed their flying on jet aircraft in 249th on Super Galeb trainers. After learning how to fly on jet aircraft, cadets continued their pilot education in other units dependent upon whether they became helicopter, fighter or fighter-bomber pilots. Cadets to become helicopter pilots, continued their education in the 107th Helicopter Regiment at Mostar, flying on Gazelle helicopters in 782nd and 783rd or on Mi-8 helicopters in 782nd. Fighter-bomber pilot cadets continued their education in 127th Fighter-Bomber Aviation Regiment at Golubovci flying first on Super Galebs in 239th and later on J-21 Jastreb and J-22 Orao attack aircraft in 242nd Fighter pilot cadets continued their education in 185th Fighter-Bomber Aviation Regiment at Pula where they first fly on Super Galebs in 229th and later in 129th on MiG-21PFM and MiG-21UM/US they made they first super sonic flights. After finishing studies, cadets of Air Force Military Academy "Maršal Tito" become pilots and joined their service units.
    [edit] Transport units

    The major transport aviation unit was the 138th Transport Aviation Brigade at Batajnica Airbase. The 138th was a separate unit under direct command of JRViPVO HQ. It consisted of three squadrons, two VIP transport aviation squadrons and one transport helicopter squadron. Transport aviation squadrons were 675th equipped with Yak-40, Falcon 50 and 678th equipped with YAK-40 VIP aircraft and Mi-8 helicopters in VIP transport version. There were also few transport aviation units from non-Transport Brigades/Regiments. In 119th Aviation Brigade aviation brigade at Niš there was 677th equipped with An-26 and An-2 aircraft which were used for training of the 63rd Paratroop Brigade. At Pleso, in 111th Aviation Brigade was 676th was also equipped with An-26 and An-2 transport aircraft. There was also one aviation squadron, 333.AE from 105th Fighter-Bomber Aviation Regiment at Zadar which was equipped with one An-2 aircraft used for parachute training of cadets of Air Force Military Academy "Maršal Tito".
    [edit] Helicopter units
    Soko Gazelle, first Yugoslav-built helicopter.

    Helicopter units of JRV were equipped with about 200 home-made Gazelle helicopters in utility, attack, rescue and scout versions, 100 Soviet-made Mil Mi-8T Hip-C cargo helicopters and 12 Soviet anti-submarine helicopters. Each Corps of AF and AD had a Special helicopter squad (Specijalno Helikoptersko Odeljenje - SHO) equipped with four Mi-8 helicopters unless Special helicopter squad of First Corps of AF and AD, which was equipped with two Aérospatiale Alouette III light utility helicopters and two Mi-8 transport helicopters. In the 138th Transport Aviation Brigade which was separate unit under direct command of JRViPVO HQ there was one transport helicopter squadron, 890.TRHE equipped with Mi-8 and Gazelle helicopters. The First Corps of AF and AD had the 107th Helicopter Regiment from Mostar (BiH), which consisted of two squadrons, 782.HE equipped with Gazelle helicopters in SA.341 and SA.342 Gama versions and Mi-8, and 783.HE equipped with Gazelle helicopters. Squadrons of the 107th Helicopter Regiment were used by Air Force Military Academy "Maršal Tito". Also there were three helicopter squadrons of the 97th Aviation Brigade at Divulje; 676.PPAE equipped with Gazelle helicopters and CL-215 firefighting aircraft, 784.PPHE equipped with 12 Mi-14, Ka-25 and Ka-28 anti-sub helicopters and 790.TRHE equipped with Mi-8 cargo helicopters. In the Third Corps of AF and AD there were three helicopter squadrons in 119. Aviation Brigade; 712.POHE equipped with Gazelle Gama attack helicopters, 714.POHE also equipped with Gazelle Gama helicopters and 787.TRHE equipped with Mi-8 transport helicopters. In Fifth Corps of AF and AD there were also three helicopter squadrons; 711.POHE equipped with Gazelle Gama, 713.POHE also equipped with Gazelle Gama attack helicopters and 780.TRHE equipped with Mi-8 cargo helicopters. There was also one mixed-aviation squadron, 333.AE from 105.LBAP which had few Gazelle helicopters used for training by Air Force Military Academy "Maršal Tito". The Army command regions also had their helicopter squadrons equipped with Gazelle Hera scout helicopters. EIV of 1st Army region was at Batajnica Airbase, EIV of 2nd Army region was at Skopski Petrovac, EIV of 3rd Army region at Pleso and EIV of Navy region was at Divulje.
    [edit] Yugoslav wars, downfall

    During the summer of 1991 the deep rooted grievances that had been threatening the unity of the Federal state for some time finally came to a head when Slovenia initiated moves towards independence. At the end of June 1991 the JRViPVO was tasked with transporting soldiers and federal police to Slovenia. The Slovenes resisted this re-imposition of central control, which rapidly escalated into an armed conflict. Two air force helicopters were shot down, while the JRViPVO launched air strikes on TV transmitters and Slovenian territorial defence positions. After a political agreement, the federal forces left Slovenia.

    Meanwhile, armed conflict had broken out between Croatian and Serbian forces in Croatia. The JRV flew several low passes in a show of force against Croatia and launched a number strikes. In August 1991 Serbian dominated federal government began a open war campaign against the Croats. The JRV was active providing transport and close air support missions to ground forces, but was gradually forced to abandon air bases outside of ethnic Serbian held areas. The hostilities were ended by a truce on 3 January 1992. The JRV equipment in Bosnia and Herzegovina was given to the new Republika Srpska Air Force and used during War in Bosnia. The bulk of the SFRY air force was inherited by the FR Yugoslavia Air Force.

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    eurostar or djalo i ri..
    je ne forum jo ne roz seli..
    as ne te plenumeve parti..
    flet pallavra per ushtri..
    qe nji dit ske qen ushtar..
    as kapterr as kufitar..
    vec pallavra nga yt gjysh..
    na i sjell ktu or bebysh..

    asnji m.ut lavdie ..
    ska pas ajo far ushtrie..
    me pankarta qe na sjell
    vec tregon se je teveqel..

    tash degjo e thuaja gjyshit rrenacak te vertetat.. ti dhe ky bamatati.. nga tragjas-berati..

    nje popull fukara nuk ben dot ushtri te forte..
    nje diktature e qelbur nuk ben dot ushtri..

    barsaleta e dites ne ato vite.. (se barsaletat ishin vet e verteta) ne vitet me te lumtura te ppsh-se.. pra ne ato vitet qe beneshin parada e por.dha e fluturonin reaktivet mbi bulevard e tralala lesh me kime.. si ne ate fotomontazhin qe ka vene eurostari nga ka.rbunari.. apo bolen-skrapari.. thoshte..

    oficeri ka mbledhur zboristet e po u llafollogjis..
    zbori benej diku nga vore maminasi..
    shok thot oficeri.. ne se armiku po vjen nga bregdeti i durresit drejt tiranes si do te veprojme ne..
    flasin e japin idera zboristet.. njeri keshtu tjatri ashtu..
    me leje thot njeri..
    urdhro e fol o zborist zenuni.. thot oficeri..
    une mendoj qe armikut ti dalim na prapa kraheve..
    hmm..shum mire thote oficeri.. e pastaj..
    pastaj thot zenuni.. ti dalim mbas shpine..
    hmm.. goxha plan i bukur thot oficeri..po pastaj o zeno..cdo bejme..
    pastaj thot zenuni.. ti veme pushken armikut nga prapa e ti bertasim..
    cdo i themi armikut mo zeno thot oficeri..i qorollepsur nga strategjia e zenun mavrise..
    do i themi.. thot zenuni.. hmm.. ec perpara o qerrata armik drejt tiranes se po u ktheve ta kercita..

    --


    dmth.. se mileti mezi po priste te hynte dikush ta rrezonte at regjim te dhj-ere..
    kjo ish filozofija e barsaletes..

    po flisni ju aty per avionet..

    kemi folur ne kte forum enciklopedik.. per cdo gje por disa hajvane pa lexuar fare forum hyjne e japin mend.. e thon budalleqe si keta qe thashe..
    lexoni njihere.. pastroni skorjet e laknat nga truni.. qartesohuni.. e pastaj grini sallaten qe kini ne mendje..

    aviacioni kish nje komandant aso kohe..
    ki komandant quhej Edip Ohri..

    kishte gjith jeten si ushtarak qe ishte aviator e komandant i aviacionit ushtarak.. apo luftarak..

    ne vitet 70-ta e rrasin ne burg te ngratin..

    kishim tanke..

    edhe komanda e tankeve ne burg perfundoj..

    edhe e fllotes detare..

    edhe ministri sigurimit..

    dhe gjeneralet pa perjashtim..
    ne fund dhe vet kryeministri vate..

    pra per cfar ushtrie flisni kur.. uria ne popull bente kerdine..
    kur ushtaret ishin hajduter misrash.. e buke..
    kur oficeret koken e mbanin te sporteli guzhines repartit se mo i jep nen rrogoz ndonje pjate fasule katundari-guzhinjier.
    kur puntori ngordhi nga talloni e radha.. kur fshatari u tha.. si fije kashte..
    kur ne mbledhjet e oficerave.. (ste ka treguar xhaxhai ty mo bamo) behej lufte.. se kush do ja fuste shokut.. si pucist.. apo kusho i x pucisti.. e kur u mbushen burgjet e hetuesirat me oficere madhore.. qe rriheshin e torturoheshin se gjoja ishin agjente..

    forca e vetme e shqiperise nuk ishte ushtria.. por.. nje loje e felliqur e europes.. qe ta lem rehat kte m.utin enverin te sundoje aty.. e keshtu pa shpenzime kemi nje "vetrine" ku le te shkojne euro turistet te shohin me syt e tyre cfar eshte komunizma e realizuar..
    kjo ishte..

    dhe enveri aty e mbante garancine qe nuku i thot gje bota.. boll ai te u a kije karabelane popullit te vet.. e keshtu.. dhe ai kenaqej se sunduari.. 3 meleon brekgrisur.. dhe bota e kish.. modelin.. e komunizmes..
    ja tek e kini shkoni shikoni..e pastaj guxoni te kerkoni komunizem ne eu apo usa..

    prandaj enveri nuku e cante bit.hen qe ne cdo plenum.. asgjesonte qindra e mijra oficere.. inxhiniere..mjeke gjeologe naftetare ekonomiqare.. pilote.. e detare..

    e mo e.. mendonte.. nuku me mbajn keta muan.. me rrofte qe mirkuptonem me ata mu.terit.. matanė.. detit..

    pra mo hani m.ut duke lavderuar ushtrine.. e enverit..

    u pa ne eksod..gjithcka..

    kush te ikte me pare..

    ..

    pse nuku e dinim ne se cfar m.ut m.uti ishte beqiri... thot enveri ne plenum..kur po ja kullundris te ngratit kadri..
    a thua se beqirin balluk ja kish vene minister fan noli apo gjon marka gjoni apo.. titua apo kadafi..
    vet e kish vene minister te mbrojtjes.. te ngratin beqir balluk.. e po vete e pushkatoj..e pastaj e quajti..m.ut m.uti..
    po keshtu kadrine.. dizet vjet e kish qen besnik.. e pastaj i thoshte cfar nuku i thoshte..genjeshtra nje pas nje..

    e pra me kte moral.. me kte maskarallik.. me kte tinzarllik mes antareve te birose e gjeneralve..mes oficerve me njeri jatrin..mes gjeneralve te sigurimit qe detyrohen te shpifin per njeri jatrin.. mes oficerve te uritur e ushtarve bark-drobitur.. nuku ka.. ushtri.. por vetem nje garumull kufomash..


    hajduter laprake ishin ata qe e rrezuamn bustin ne tirane..

    nuku cau menderen asnje oficer te shkoje ta mbroje..

    oj lavderojne.. ushtrin e enverit ca lejfena bij kapterresh.. qe te vetmin kontribut..qe i dhan ushtrise..eshte ja..hengren fasulet.. e u bene deshmitare kunder pucistave.. dmth u perdoren si zagare me ja rras mire komandanteve te vet.. kur u a kerkonte kete hasnedari i enver ramizit..qe me doren e tij e me porosi sy me sy gojarisht pa len letra.. karta kanta.. u a ka plasur k.oqet ne biruca mijra e mijra partizanve trima te luftes nacional clirimtare.. heronj te popullit .. te cilet u bene mbas shkollimit neper akademirat voroshillov e frunze.. kuadrot e shkelqyera ushtarake.. qe u asgjesuan poshtersisht..

    lexoni more kopiler forum.. se te tera u a kemi sqaruar..


    si ushtaraket.. e pesuan dhe gjeologo-naftetaret.. e inxhiniret e krejt..

    ..


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    Dhe tani lexo pak per aviacionin e vendit tend ! Per fryme popullsie dhe siperfaqe territori (duke perfshire dhe trojet etnike brenda ) cfare force ka patur Shqiperia ....!

    Flas per aviacion dhe nuk po flas per Selam Musara dhe Mic Sokola ! Se po te te llogaris edhe keta , pastaj i bie mos t'i keni hequr pampersin akoma si ti dhe serbet dhe greket me shoke !


    History

    Military aviation started in Albania in 1914, when the Albanian government ordered three Lohner Daimler aircraft from Austria to form the Albanian Air Corps. As a result of the outbreak of World War I, the order was cancelled. Albania did not have the resources to restart the development of a proper Air Force during the 1920s and 1930s.

    After World War II, the Albanian Air Force finally came into existence when Albania was equipped with Soviet aircraft. The first squadron was equipped with Yakovlev Yak-9s. The first jet fighter to enter service was the MiG-15, dating officially the 15th of May 1955, followed by the MiG-17. Some of the MiG-15s were Soviet fighters used and then withdrawn from the North Korean Air Force. The backbone of the Albanian Air Force jet fighters became MiG-19, NATO code "Farmer". 12 MiG-19PM were delivered by the USSR in October 1959 and on the same year pilots and specialists were sent in USSR to train with the allweather interceptor MiG-19 PM. After the collapse of USSR-Albanian relations, significant numbers of Shenyang J-6 fighters (Chinese copy of the MiG-19S), were delivered from China. In the early 70s, Albania exchanged its lot of Soviet made MiG-19PM (NATO code "Farmer-E"/beam-riding missiles equipped), with 12, more advanced, Chengdu J-7A fighters (Chinese copy of the Soviet built MiG-21). Two of them were lost in incidents in the early 70s, eight had problems with lack of batteries in the early 80s.

    In total, during the 70s and early 80s, the Albanian Air Force was able to deploy 72 Shenyang J-6C, 12 Chengdu J-7A, a fighting squadron equipped with 12 MiG-17, a considerable number of MiG-15 (both BIS and UTI versions), and 4 Soviet made transport aircraft Il-14. A squadron of Shijiazhuang Y-5 was deployed in Tirana and the Air Force Academy in Vlora had 2 squadrons of Yak-18 for basic pilot training purposes. The Helicopter component consisted in 37 helicopters Harbin Z-5 based in Farka Tirana, meanwhile there was a single prototype of a light H-5 bomber based in Rinas.
    A Shenyang J-6C fighter
    Agusta-Bell AB205

    Due to relations collapse between Albania and the Chinese, maintenance became extremely difficult and the number of deadly incidents involving Mikoyan fighters increased. Despite Albanian efforts and some initial success in repairing and converting the engines of the MiGs, the lack of specific jet fuel forced the Albanians to start production in a national scale, but without having the proper technological know-how, thus resulting in a low-quality production (The first attempt dates on 1961, when the Kuēova factory produced the special Jet kerosene called TSI). Such fuel conditioned the life-time of the jet engines and often was blamed as the main reason of the deadly incidents (35 Albanian pilots lost their life from 1955 to 2005 mainly due to MiG's mechanical failures). In the early 90s, in an effort to keep the MiGs flying, the Albanian Air Force received spare parts from Bulgaria and engines from the ex-GDR. As of 2004, Albania still had 65 J-6C aircraft, although most were not operational and only 2 Chengdu J-7A in flying condition.[2] The Albanian fighter jets were definitively withdrawn from active service in late 2004 after the last deadly incident involving a J-6C during take-off from the military area at Mother Teresa Airport in Tirana. Since November 2006, the Air Force operates in a new structure, the Albanian Air Brigade, which is part of the Albanian Joint Forces Command. Currently, the Albanian Air Brigade does not operate any fixed-wing aircraft but exclusively helicopters. Part of the same Brigade is also an Air Defence Battalion equipped with 37 mm Antiaircraft artillery. The MANPADS have already been retired from active service on 2008, due to aging factor. The high-altitude surface-to-air HQ-2 - Hong Qian missiles, a modified version of the Lavochkin S-75 (Russian С-75, NATO reporting name SA-2 Guideline), have also been withdrawn from service. 4 Shijiazhuang Y-5 are currently in service, aiming to a small future parachute capability for some of the country's elite forces.
    [edit] Former Soviet and Chinese aircraft
    Aircraft Type Quantity Service Entry Retirement
    Y-5 13 1963 Partial. 2005
    Il-14 4 1957 2005
    H-5 1 1957 1997
    MiG-15bis 26 1955 2005
    MiG-15UTI 12 1955 2005
    Shenyang J-5 12 1962 2005
    Shenyang J-6C 82 1959 2005
    Chengdu J-7A 12 1965 2005
    JJ-5 8 1962 2005
    Z-5 37 1957 2005
    CJ-6 20 1962 2005


    [edit] Deployment of the Albanian Air Force until 2005

    Unit Type Location
    4004 Regiment 1st Squadron CJ-6 Military Aviation Academy Vlora
    2nd Squadron CJ-6 Military Aviation Academy Vlora
    3rd Squadron MiG-15bis, MiG-15UTI Kucova Berat
    4010 Regiment 1st Squadron Chengdu J-7A, Shenyang J-5 Zadrima Lezha
    2nd Squadron Shenyang J-6C Zadrima Lezha
    3rd Squadron Shenyang J-6C Zadrima Lezha
    4020 Regiment 1st Squadron Shenyang J-6C, MiG-15bis, Il-14 Rinas Tirana
    2nd Squadron Shenyang J-6C, MiG-15bis, Il-14 Rinas Tirana
    4030 Regiment 1st Squadron Shenyang J-6C, MiG-15bis, Kucova Berat
    2nd Squadron JJ-5, MiG-15bis Kucova Berat
    4040 Regiment 1st Squadron Mil Mi-4, Z-5 Farka Tirana
    2nd Squadron Z-5 Farka Tirana
    3rd Squadron Z-5 Farka Tirana
    4050 Regiment 1st Squadron Y-5, AS-350, Bell 222/VIP (lost in incident 2006), Mil Mi-8 Rinas Tirana
    Ministry of Health Aviation Unit SA 316 Tirana Aerodrome
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    Brari !

    Shkrimet e tua prej karagjozi tashme jan bere bajate dhe te neveritshme me arrogancen tende te pashoqe.

    Nuk e kam hapur kete teme per te mburrur komunizmin apo halen qe e kryesonte ate. Kjo teme ka per qellim ( pasi edhe pse ka vajtur 20 faqe ti nuk e ke kuptuar ) te tregoje qe edhe pse brekgrisur kishim armatime ajrore, detare, toksore etj. Kishim aq sa per te bere " bam " te pakten , sa per mos tu shfarosur si lapranjose dhe pa dinjitet.

    Une problemin e kam me " ushtrin " nese do ta quanim keshtu kete mercenarizem me pistolete dhe disa automatike te nivelit stervites.


    Nje antare e NATO-s qe uhazon automjete ushtarake gjat misjoneve te saje ne vendet ku mer pjese NATO per ti gatuar apo lare rrobat e ushtrive te medha. Nje ushtri me katundar qe kan bere 6 muaj leksione dhe marrin nje rroge sa 000000000.1 % e Saliut dhe aktorit te deshtuar te filmave komunist si psh tek filmi i tije i preferuar Ball per Balle.

    E keshtu braro berisha duhet dhe te durosh pastaj pordhet e Grekut se si tall brarin me ne shqiptaret ne paradat e tije ushtarake ne mes te Athines dhe te durosh vllezrit e Lirie berishovic-it kur hyjne dhe dalin ne kufit e territorit Shqiptar- Kosovar etj etj etj.

    Pra : Kur do kemi nje ushtri sa per veten tone ? Mos me thuaj se ne nuk kemi buke , sepse Sali Brarovici ka thene qe kemi rritjen me te madhe ekonomike ne bote. Vetem gjysma e pasurise se shtetit tone qe kan vjedhur qeveritaret e PS dhe PD do te mjaftonte te kishim nje ushtri te mirfillte.

    Ose te pakten po te konfiskojme qendren tregtare qe po ben Saliu ne sauk dhe shum investime politikanesh dhe ti shisnim do ishim OK

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    eurostar or djalo i ri..
    je ne forum jo ne roz seli..
    as ne te plenumeve parti..
    flet pallavra per ushtri..
    qe nji dit ske qen ushtar..
    as kapterr as kufitar..
    vec pallavra nga yt gjysh..
    na i sjell ktu or bebysh..

    asnji m.ut lavdie ..
    ska pas ajo far ushtrie..
    me pankarta qe na sjell
    vec tregon se je teveqel..

    tash degjo e thuaja gjyshit rrenacak te vertetat.. ti dhe ky bamatati.. nga tragjas-berati..

    nje popull fukara nuk ben dot ushtri te forte.......


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    Ka patur gjithmone Shqiperia njerez lesher si ti ! Por sikur shqiptaret te kishin mendjen (apo genin tend) , do te ishin zhdukur me kohe nga faqja e dheut . Ka dhene prova historia dhe sot numeron (me sa di une) 12.000 popuj dhe gjuhe te zhdukura .....

    Por fati i shqiptareve eshte se nuk kane patur kurre mendjen tende apo shpirtin tend prej zvarraniku dhe disfatisti ! Prandaj kontrollo nje here ADN-ne tende se mos kushedi je vetem shqipfoles (Une jam i sigurte per kete ) dhe vjen e perrallis ne nje forum shqiptar .

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    Common Expressions: Albanian Air Force
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    Albanian Air Force After World War II, Albania was equipped with Soviet aircraft. The first jet fighter used was the MiG-15, followed by the MiG-17. The basic jet fighter became the MiG-19. 12 MiG-19PM were bought from the USSR, and after a collapse of Soviet-Albanian relations, many Shenyang F-6s (the Chinese copy of MiG-19S) were bought from China. As of 2004, Albania still had 65 MiG-19 and F-6 aircraft, although most were not operationally used. In the early 1970s, Albania bought 12 Shenyang F-7A fighters (the Chinese copy of the MiG-21F-13). From 1974 they operated from a base in Gjadėr. Although obsolete by modern standards, they still remain the most modern Albanian fighters.

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    Operational history

    During their service with Soviet Anti-Air Defense and in East Germany, MiG-19s were involved in multiple intercepts of Western reconnaissance aircraft. The first documented encounter with a Lockheed U-2 took place in the autumn of 1957. The MiG-19 pilot reported seeing the aircraft, but could not make up the 2,234 m (7,000 ft) difference in altitude. When Francis Gary Powers's U-2 was shot down in the 1960 incident, one pursuing MiG-19P was also hit by the salvo of S-75 Dvina (NATO: SA-2 "Guideline") missiles, killing the pilot Sergei Safronov. In a highly controversial incident, on 1 July 1960, a MiG-19 shot down an RB-47H (S/N 53-4281) reconnaissance aircraft in international airspace over the Arctic Circle with four of the crew killed and two captured by the Soviets (they were released in 1961). In another incident, on 28 January 1964, a MiG-19 shot down a T-39 Sabreliner which had strayed into East German airspace while on a training mission; all three crewmembers were killed.




    [edit] Vietnam War

    In early 1969, Hanoi made the decision to strengthen their air defenses by creating a third jet fighter unit; the 925th Fighter Regiment. This unit would consist of late model MiG-17s and the newly acquired MiG-19s (nearly all of which were J-6s from the People's Republic of China (PRC)). The regiment was established at Yen Bai, and by April 1969, nine combat-rated MiG-19 pilots were posted for combat duty. While some of North Vietnam's MiG-17s and nearly all of their MiG-21s were supplied by the Soviet Union, the bulk of their MiG-19s (J-6 models) were supplied by the PRC, which seldom exceeded 54 MiG-19s in number.[1]

    The first use and loss of a U.S. fighter to a MiG-19 (J-6) was in 1965 when a USAF Lockheed F-104 Starfighter piloted by LTC Philip E. Smith was "bounced" by a People's Liberation Army Air Force aircraft near Hainan Island. His Starfighter took cannon fire which damaged a portion of his wing and missile mount. Smith gave chase and did receive missile tone on the MiG, and within a millisecond of pressing his missile firing button, his Starfighter lost all power. He had to eject and was captured. Smith was held prisoner until released in 1972, coincidentally during U.S. President Richard Nixon's visit to China in 1972.[2] According to another source, Smith was released in 1973.[3]

    North Vietnam's Air Force used the MiG-19 much later in the air war than the MiG-17 and the MiG-21. MiG-19s, despite their limited numbers, were involved in extensive combat during Operations Linebacker 1 and Linebacker 2 (aka the Christmas Bombing). The NVAF claimed only seven victories over US aircraft, using the MiG-19, all of which were F-4 Phantom IIs.[4] Primarily because of the aircraft's twin engines, which created a maintenance nightmare, the MiG-19 was not favored by North Vietnamese pilots. While the MiG-17 had maneuverability and the MiG-21 had speed, the MiG-19 had a combination of both, but not to the same degree as the others.[citation needed] North Vietnam used the MiG-19 from 1969 until the 1980s when it was replaced by newer aircraft.

    Compared to the F-4 Phantom II however, although lacking mounts for air-to-air missiles, it had the one advantage that the early model Phantoms did not have: it was armed with a cannon. Confirmed aerial victories by MiG-19s while assigned to the 925th FR, which match US records occurred on: 10 May 1972 in which two F-4 Phantoms were shot down by MiG-19s flown by Pham Hung Son and Nguyen Manh Tung. Both NVAF victories over the F-4s were accomplished by cannon fire.[5][6][7] Combat results of the 925th FR using MiG-19s, according to the North Vietnamese Air Force were: two F-4s on 8 May 1972; two F-4s on 10 May 1972; one F-4 on 18 May 1972; and two F-4s shot down on 23 May 1972;[4] these losses were in exchange for 10 MiG-19s lost in aerial combat with US jets. The MiG-19 did make history in one manner however; on 2 June 1972 over the skies of North Vietnam, the MiG-19 has the inauspicious honor of being the only recorded jet fighter[citation needed] to be shot down in aerial combat by cannon fire at supersonic speeds, by a USAF F-4 Phantom.

    Lockheecd F104- Starfighter

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    [edit] China

    The MiG-19 apparently was in front line service with the PLAAF, and saw limited combat against their common adversary, the Republic of China Air Force (Nationalist China). One major air battle between Red and Nationalist Chinese aircraft occurred in 1967, with 12 J-6s taking on four Lockheed F-104 Starfighters. Each side claimed one kill.

    There were reports of People's Republic of China J-6s (MiG-19s) flying combat missions during infrequent border squabbles with the Soviets, though with no records of dogfights, and encounters during the Vietnam War with US aircraft that strayed into Chinese airspace. These confrontations resulted in a few shootdowns of US aircraft, with no recorded losses of Chinese planes, although the MiGs sometimes had to make a hasty retreat back into Chinese airspace when the Americans flew in reinforcements.


    [edit] Middle East

    In 1962 Egyptian MiG-19s saw some action in the ground-attack role during the civil war in Yemen during the early 1960s. The first reported air combat in the Mideast with the MiG-19 was on 29 November 1966, when two Egyptian MiG-19 fighters battled Israeli Mirage IIICs. The Israelis claimed two kills and no losses. Around 80 MiG-19s were in service with Egypt during the Six-Day War in 1967, but more than half were destroyed on the ground during the opening Israeli airstrikes of Operation Focus. Israeli pilots, however, did find the MiG-19 a potentially dangerous adversary because of its performance, maneuverability, and heavy armament.

    Following the war, the Egyptians organized the surviving MiG-19 aircraft and assigned them air defense tasks of Egypt's interior. The Soviet Union did not supply Egypt with any replacement of the MiG-19s destroyed in the Six Day War, but Egypt might have received some from Syria and Iraq, so that by the end of 1968 there were 80+ MiG-19s in service with the Egyptian Air Force (EAF). The aircraft also saw combat during the War of Attrition; in one engagement on 19 May 1969, a MiG-19 aircraft engaged two Israeli Mirages, shooting down one with cannon fire while the other escaped.[8] Egypt had around 60 Mig-19s in service during the Yom Kippur War of 1973 in which they served as close support aircraft.

    The Iraqis obtained some MiG-19S fighters in the early 1960s, but later sold them all off (a couple remaining in local museums), though the survivors did see some action against the Kurds in the 1960s. It is claimed that the Iranians acquired a batch of their own F-6s.

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    [edit] Africa

    Tanzania flew MiG-19S fighters against Uganda during the war between the two states in 1978 and 1979, while the Sudan used its MiG-19S fighters against separatists in southern Sudan, with at least one shot down. The Somalis flew the F-6 against rebels and the Ethiopians in the 1980s, though with the breakdown in civil order in Somalia all their aircraft ended up derelict by the early 1990s.

    [edit] Have Drill

    In November 1969 two Air National Guard F-86Hs flew a three-day mission in Nellis. The purpose was the comparision of the flight envelope of Sabre against the MiG-19. The HAm Drill program evaluated several other Navy and Air Force aircraft against the MiG-19.

    Some years earlier, in 1966, Feather Duster program evaluated all operational American aircraft against the MiG-19. Since the F-86H was the closest thing to a MiG-I9, it was used as the enemy.
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    ushtria shqiptare vdiq ne vitin 1974.

    mos derdellisni ketu alla enver hoxha.

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    ushtria shqiptare vdiq ne vitin 1974.

    mos derdellisni ketu alla enver hoxha.
    Shiko ketu ! Ty mund te te pelqeje te flasesh si te duash ! Kjo mundet te te kenaqi ! Por ushtria shqiptare , nuk vdes sa te kete shqiptare gjalle ! Por shqiptare ama !

    Ketu po flitet se ushtria shqiptare jo vetem ishte suficente te mbronte vendin e vet , por dhe te siguronte mbeshtetje per trojet etnike , per t'i marre ato me force kur te ishin kushtet .

    Nuk mundet te pretendosh qe ishte me e mira ne bote dhe me e pajisura !

    Por ishte nga me te fortat dhe te pathyeshmet ! Fqinjet as nuk i kishte ne diskutim !

    Te gjithe armatimin , pavaresisht se hynte tek modernet per kohen , neve nuk e prodhonim vete ! As mundet t'i kerkoje Shqiperise qe brenda 30 vjetesh , nga anlfabetizmi 98% , te prodhonte avione moderne dhe te konkurronte ne prodhimin e tyre . Cfare po flasim ? Me delire ?

    Dhe ketu Enveri ka vetem ate rol qe mundet te kete nje drejtues ! Por ata qe zoteronin armet dhe ishin gati te jepnin edhe jeten per vendin , ishte populli shqiptar ! Enveri vdiq , por populli shqiptar rron dhe do te rroje !

    Kjo teme e ka qellimin , mendoj une , jo per te glorifikuar Enverin , por per te treguar se per numer popullsie dhe siperfaqe territori (se keshtu behen llogarite ushtarake) kemi qene edhe me siper se fqinjet ! Pra , e thene historikisht , shqiptari , vertet pushken e ka gjetur nga pushtuesit , por sado te vjeter qe ta kishte , e ruante me shume kujdes , edhe kur ishte pa buke !

    Nuk e shiste ne pazar per nje torbe miser dhe aq me pak ta shkaterronte sic u be me ushtrine e vendit .

    Nuk eshte ne traditen tone ! Mua me vjen keq qe tani ne Shqiperi degjoj nga drejtuesit e saj se "jetojme ne kohen e dashurise" me serbin dhe grekun , prandaj s'kemi nevoje per arme !

    Serbi dhe greku , por dhe maqedonsi , jane duke bere te kunderten !

    Dhe mua me vjen shume keq qe degjoj shqiptare qe per interesa apo simpati politike apo personale , flasin keq apo mbeshtesin nje dukuri te keqe kunder vendit tone , Shqiperise ! Per mua kjo eshte poshtersi !
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    Ne kohe te Enverit ushtria vertet ka qene me e forte po mos harro se dhe fqinjet dhe ne pergjithesi te gjithe vendet kane qene me te amratosur.Ne krahasim me vendet rrotull prape ne skemi pasur te krahasuar.

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    flas me kompetenca

    hap nai teme tjeter, se do rrejme vetem shqiptaret e Kosoves.
    Problemi asht se keto rren -jane tonat. Na i kemi ba vet per me e friku jugosllavine e serbine.
    Pse ka pas cobana te veshun me zor m'at ane prej enverit, e i kane besua - nuk asht faji jone.

    Na ne 81-iten kemi pas shpik nji rren se si kur kane hy gabimisht dy Mig-21sha jugosllav ne hapesinen ajrore te Shqipnise mbrojtja automatike kunderajrore e A se RPSH i ka kap e i ka ngri me rreze n'qiell e i ka detyru me zbrite.

    Pra ka hala edhe shiptar te Kosoves qe e besojne ket gja.
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    sic e thashe ne kte forum..jan sqaruar te gjitha..

    kushdo te mesoje ketu i ka..

    nuku po hap temen e ushtarakve te te gjitha koheve qe ka pasur shteti shqiptar qe nga 912 deri ne 40-ten e me vone..

    po ndalem tek ushtria partizane e pastaj ajo shteterorja ushtri mbas 45 deri ne prag te berlin muro-vidhisjes..



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    ja cthote nje ish ushtarak i shquar qe e njeh dhembe e dhemballe ushtrine partizane e pastaj ate ushtrine qe u ngrit mbi baze te ushtrise partizane.. e qe quhej forcat e armatosura te republikes socialiste te shqiperise..

    pra flet gjergj titani..

    ka vene dhe ca lista i ngrati..

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    ju envereo hysni kapoistet lexoni e pastaj hidhuni e na tregoni se jini shqiptare..

    nje bajge je o bamo..

    bajge nga sojet qe me shum zell i pushkatonin mbas plenumeve ushtaraket tan te mire..

    nejse..
    milet lexim te mbare..
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    listave vejani veshin..
    zoti titani ka pikpamjet e veta por mua me intereson.. fati i njerzve.. i ushtarakve e i mijra familjareve te tyre qe u genociduan..polpotishto-stalinoisto-- hysni kapo-ramizo-nexhmije- -enverisht.. pra me rrenje e fise e fare..

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    marre nga forumi..


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    Gjeneralėt e paharruar nėn diktaturė

    DOSSIER/Forcat e Armatosura tė Shqipėrisė.

    Portretizime tė ushtarakėve gjatė Luftės Antifashiste dhe pas saj .

    Biografi vlerash pėr personalitete tė ushtrisė shqiptare

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    Aleksandėr Mihali

    Populli shqiptar e mban tė ndezur nė kujtesė Luftėn e madhe Antifashiste Nacional-ēlirimtare, kujton ditėt e lavdishme dhe datat e shėnuara tė luftės, figurat e shquara , heronjtė , dėshmorėt e kėsaj epopeje tė ndritur e tė lavdishme. Pėrkujton dhe pėrulet me nderim dhe respekt tė veēantė pėrpara bijve dhe bijave tė popullit shqiptar edhe atyre tė huaj qė pėr Ēlirimin e plotė tė vendit derdhėn gjakun rinor dhe bėnė fli jetėn e tyre tė bukur. Ushtria partizane, krijesa mė e dashur e popullit shqiptar nė Luftėn e Dytė Botėrore , si rezultat i menēurisė dhe largpamėsisė tė politikės dhe strategjisė sė pėrgjithshme tė ndjekur nga organet e larta tė Luftės, si p.sh. KRANĒL , Shtabi i Pėrgjithshėm dhe KQ i i PKSH u rreshtua pėrkrah forcave tė armatosura antifashiste tė Aleancės sė madhe Anglo-Sovjetik0-Amerikane. Rezistenca antifashiste e popullit dhe ushtrisė mbretėrore shqiptare, filloi qysh nė ditėt e para tė prillit tė vitit 1939. Nisi kėsisoj epopeja e madhe 6-vjeēare mė e gjata dhe mė e vėshtira e shqiptarėve pėr liri , ēlirim , pavarėsi dhe demokraci. Ajo u kurorėzua me fitoren mė tė madhe historike tė shqiptarėve ndėr shekuj. Shpėtoi nė kėtė mėnyrė Shqipėria qė gėzojmė sot.
    Ata qė pėrpiqen tė pėrbaltin tėrėsinė madhėshtore tė kėsaj lufte tė lavdishme , tė nxijnė fitoret e ndritura tė saj , aq tė rėndėsishme e jetike pėr tėrėsinė e kufijve administrative tė Shqipėrisė etj., janė armiqtė e djeshėm tė kėsaj Lufte, janė dėshtakėt dhe ish-kolaboracionistėt; Janė ish-kriminelėt e Luftės sė Dytė Botėrore apo idhtarėt e tyre; Janė pinjollėt mjeranė tė atyre forcave tė mundura dje nė Luftėn e Madhe pėr liri e demokraci. Ata shpikin pseudo-dokumente dhe fakte qesharake deri nė shėmti dhe tė pabesueshme pėr askėnd.
    Pa dashur kurrsesi tė ngjallet nostalgjia pėr sistemin diktatorial tė pėrmbysur pa rikthim si praktikė shtetėrore dhe sistem politik nė vendin tonė dhe nė sa e sa vende tė tjera , tė botės lindore nuk mund tė mohohen tė vėrtetat e mėdha historike se forcat kryesore promotore aleate anti-nazifashiste dhe antimilitarist tė Luftės sė Dyte Botėrore ishin komunistė, nacionalistė kolaboracionistė dhe kuislingė. Ishte BRSS, Anglia, Amerika, Franca, Kina, Jugosllavia, Greqia, Kanadaja, Izraeli, Etiopia, vendet e Magrebit, Afrikan, Egjipti, Polonia, Holanda, Belgjika, Argjentina, Danimarka, Norvegjia, Vietnami, Austria, Zelanda e Re etj.
    Ushtria ishte njėra prej viktimave tė para qė diktatura e vuri nė shėnjestėr, qysh gjatė ditėve tė Luftės sė Madhe. Enver Hoxha me gjakftohtėsi asgjėsoi plejadėn e komandantėve tė shquar tė luftės dhe lulen e gjeneralitetit shqiptar, mendjen dhe trurin e Komandės dhe Shtabit tė Pėrgjithshėm tė Ushtrisė, tė komandave dhe shtabeve tė njėsive tė bashkuara tė Luftės kundėr nazifashizmit dhe tė periudhės sė pas luftės.

    Ku janė gjeneralėt?

    Me tė drejtė sot pyesim me dhimbje ku janė kapedanėt e vėrtetė, trima tė luftės?

    Ku janė gjeneralėt e talentuar, akademistėt, studiuesit dhe shkencėtarėt ushtarakė, mendjet e ndritura dhe reformatorėt, strateg dhe prijėsit guximtarė qė aq shumė i dhanė Luftės sė Madhe Antifashiste Nacionalēlirimtare? Ku janė organizatorėt e shkėlqyer tė rezistencės antifashiste dhe luftės sė armatosur nė pėrmasa mbarėpopullore? Ku ėshtė Spiro Moisiu, komandanti i Ushtrisė Partizane, gjenerali i talentuar dhe organizator i pėrsosur, shpirtmadh dhe jashtėzakonisht i ekuilibruar, atdhetari pėrmasave tė mėdha dhe antifashist po aq i madh; ai qė nuk pranoi tė drejtojė batalionin e tij luftarak kundėr fqinjėve tanė tė Jugut, kundėr popullit dhe ushtrisė mike greke dhe bėri qė fronti tė thyhej nė njėrin prej drejtimeve operative-strategjike mė tė rėndėsishme; Organizatori i Shtabit dhe Komandės sė Pėrgjithshme tė Ushtrisė Antifashiste Nacionalēlirimtare Shqiptare, i brigadave partizane. Ai qė kreu e pėrsosi organizimin, armatosjen, stėrvitjen fillestare dhe drejtimin e menēur, tė formacioneve tė mėdha ushtarake? Ai qė mori pjesė thuajse nė tė gjitha inaugurimet e brigadave partizane? Pėrherė i qetė, i menēur, i palodhur, pėrherė pranė makinės sė shkrimit pėr tė diktuar urdhrat e para luftarake, direktivat e luftės, udhėzimet, urdhėresat, komunikatat operative apo qarkoret pėr formimin e njėsive tė mėdha partizane apo llojeve tė armėve e shėrbimeve? Gjenerali shumėdimensional Spiro Moisiu, si komandant i ushtrisė nuk ka firmosur me dorėn e urdhėruar as edhe njė urdhėr pėr shkarkimin e komandantėve tė luftės apo tė ketė urdhėruar dėbimin nga ushtria ose pushkatimin e ndokujt! Kurrė njė vendim tė tillė nuk e mori sepse ai njihte nė themel jetėn e ushtarit tė popullit, tė partizanit tė komandantėve dhe komisarėve tė luftės. Pse vallė, tė ketė ndodhur kėshtu? Pėrse ai ishte nė esencė ushtar, ishte njėri me zemėr tė madhe, komandant me vizione tė drejta pėr luftėn dhe e dinte mirė se nga ekstremizmi apo parapėlqimet partiake pėsonte nė radhė tė parė atdheu. Kėsisoj, Spiro Moisiu mbeti pėrjetėsisht figura mė e dashur dhe mė simpatike e Lutės Antifashiste Nacionalēlirimtare por pėrherė e spostuar, pėrherė nė hije dhe e denigruar. Ku ėshtė shtabi i Pėrgjithshėm i Ushtrisė Antifashiste Nacionalēlirimtare partizane? Nga 13 anėtarėt e tij, 8 organizatorė tė talentuar tė rezistencės dhe luftės antifashiste dhe komandantė tė mrekullueshėm u asgjėsuan qysh gjatė luftės; nė prag tė pėrfundimit tė asaj, ose nė vitet e mėvonshme. Ku ėshtė i mrekullueshmi, i matur e mendjendrituri, akademisti dhe komandanti i pėrmasave tė mėdha operative-strategjike, popullori dhe fisniku Dali Ndreu, kryengritėsi dhe rebeli demokrat, me edukatė perėndimor, revolucionar, profesionist dhe emigrant politik antifashist i orėve tė para, i paepuri dhe burri trim. Ku ishte atentatori i aksioneve tė mėdha e tė rrezikshme, organizator i guximshėm i guerileve nė qytete, Mustafa Gjinishit. Ku shkoi luftėtari trim e sypatrembur i orėve tė para, popullori, i maturi dhe i ekuilibruari, organizatori dhe komandanti i Qarkorit, Brigadės, Divizionit dhe Korpusit, Gjin Marku. Ku iku i urti, i maturi, i menēuri, i dashuri me shokėt, oficeri specialist i artilerisė dhe njėri prej organizatorėve tė saj, gjenerali me vizione tė drejta gjitharmėshe Tahir Kadareja. Po, akademiku dhe komandanti i dimensioneve tė mėdha operative-strategjike, njėri nga organizatorėt dhe komandantėt mė tė suksesshėm tė LANĒL kontenstator veteran dhe i pėrndjekur pėr dhjetėra e dhjetėra vjeēare, Nexhip Vinēani. Ēfarė ndodhi me komandantin e guerileve tė kryeqytetit, organizatorin dhe atentatorin e guximshėm, komandant Brigade, Divizioni dhe ministrin e Mbrojtjes, Beqir Ballukun, njeriun e ekuilibruar, tė matur dhe tė sjellshėm me kuadrot dhe familjet e tyre, i panxituari, fjalė-ėmbli, organizatori dhe reformatori i palodhur. Ai do tė lartėsohet si komandanti trim partizan, “Heroi i Popullit”, origjinal nė organizimin dhe drejtimin e luftimeve si komandant Batalioni, brigade, divizioni. Ai u shqua pėr energji, shkathtėsi, i rreptė e nė tė njėjtėn kohė i arsyeshėm dhe i menēur. Ai mbetet personaliteti ushtarak mė i spikatur i shtetit drejtues dhe udhėheqės i dimensioneve tė mėdha strategjike, gjenerali qė pjesėn mė tė madhe tė jetės sė tij e kaloi nė terren, nė stėrvitje e nė ēadrat fushore ushtarake. Ai nuk harrohet se ishte i dashur pėr tė gjithė ushtrinė dhe kuadrot e saj. Petrit Dumja njihet si studiuesi, i rrepti, por i drejti, siē sillej ai, komandant i pa lodhur i njėsive tė mėdha operative-strategjike, MKA, FLD i etur pėr kulturė tė thellė ushtarake. Ndėrsa Hito Ēako ka hyrė nė analet e ushtrisė si mendjendrituri, poligloti, i pangopuri me lexime, pėrkthime e botime, artileri i pėrsosur, oficer me prejardhje nga njė familje e dėgjuar patriotike rilindėse, luftėtar i rezistencės qysh mė 7 prill 1939, hokatar dhe gjeneral i menēur. Todi Naēo ėshtė njė tjetėr luftėtar antifashist i orėve tė para, luftėtar i Spanjės, komandant i parė i artilerisė sė ushtrisė, organizator i guximshėm dhe drejtues me intuitė tė jashtėzakonshėm. Me tė njėjtat vlera ėshtė edhe Hulusi Spahiu, luftėtari trim dhe atentator i shquar i Korēės, partizan, veteran dhe komandant me pėrvojė tė veēantė, komandant me pėrvojė tė veēantė, komandant Brigade, Divizioni, Korpusi dhe drejtues shtatmadhor i pėrmasave strategjike, dy herė akademist dhe operatori shquar. Njė tjetėr ėshtė edhe Vaske Gjino, qė shquhet si energjiku, i shkathėt, studiuesi i shkėlqyer, me tė dhėna, shkencėtari i honorifikuar nė Akademinė “Frunze’ me medalje ari, poligloti perfekt, disidenti tipik i diktaturės dhe i diktatorit, komandanti mė bashkėkohor gjitharmėsh, me vizione tepėr tė qarta pėr pėrdorimin luftarak tė mjeteve tė blinduara. Ndėrsa Abaz Fejzo do tė mbetet pėrjetė i paharruari menēurak dhe i matur, studiues, shkencėtar i pėrmasave akademike, teoricieni i rrallė, por edhe kėngėtar tenor klasik i shkėlqyer, Spiro Shalėsi, personalitet, ushtarak i pėrmasave tė mėdha, intelektual klasik i kompletuar, shtabist i pėrsosur dhe njėri prej organizatorėve tė parė tė ushtrisė nga ushtria partizane nė ushtri kazerme bashkėkohore. Mes tyre spikat edhe Islam Radoviēka, luftėtari trim, i zgjuar aq dhe dinak profesion, disident i ēartur, realist dhe i pamposhtur. Pėr tė njėjtat vlera shquhet edhe Halim Xhelo apo personalitete luftėtarėsh dhe organizatorėsh tė shkėlqyer, agjitatorė propagandist dhe prijėsa tė vėrtetė formacionesh tė mėdha tė armatosura tė ushtrisė partizane dhe asaj tė rregullt, Bedri Spahiu, Nako Spiru, Ramadan Ēitaku, Ymer Dishnica, Pėllumb Dishnica, Hamit Keēi, Sali Verdha, Petro Bullati, Njazi Jaho, Iliaz Ahmeti, Gani Keēi, Pajo Islami, Njazi Islami, Kristo Themelko, Tuk Jakova, Bajram Sinoimeri, Abdyl Kallėzi, Merkur Ēela, Abedin Shehu, Koēo Tashko, Kiēo Ngjela, Koēo Theodhosi, Beqir Ndou, Fadil Paēgrami, Todi Lubonja, Naxhie Dume, Bardha Qorri, Liri Lubonja, Selfxhie Broja, Liri Gega, Drita Kosturi, Dhora Leka, Liri Belishova, Ramize Gjebrea, Vasil Kati, Vand Mitrojorgji, Pipi Mitrojorgji, Thoma Deljana, Taho Sejko, Sali Ormeni, Ramadan Xhangolli, Nesti Kerenxhi, Nesti Nase, Muhamer Spahiu, Llambi Peēini, Maqo Ēomo, Prio Gusmo e shumė e shumė tė tjerė.


    Spiro Moisiu
    Dali Ndreu
    Mustafa Gjinishit
    Gjin Marku
    Tahir Kadareja
    Nexhip Vinēani
    Beqir Ballukun
    Petrit Dume
    Hito Ēako
    Todi Naēo
    Hulusi Spahiu
    Vaske Gjino
    Abaz Fejzo
    Spiro Shalėsi
    Islam Radoviēka
    Halim Xhelo
    Bedri Spahiu
    Nako Spiru
    Ramadan Ēitaku
    Ymer Dishnica
    Pėllumb Dishnica
    Hamit Keēi
    Sali Verdha
    Petro Bullati
    Njazi Jaho
    Iliaz Ahmeti
    Gani Keēi
    Pajo Islami
    Njazi Islami
    Kristo Themelko
    Tuk Jakova
    Bajram Sinoimeri
    Abdyl Kallėzi
    Merkur Ēela
    Abedin Shehu
    Koēo Tashko
    Kiēo Ngjela
    Koēo Theodhosi
    Beqir Ndou
    Fadil Paēgrami
    Todi Lubonja
    Naxhie Dume
    Bardha Qorri
    Liri Lubonja
    Selfxhie Broja
    Liri Gega
    Drita Kosturi
    Dhora Leka
    Liri Belishova
    Ramize Gjebrea
    Vasil Kati
    Vango Mitrojorgji
    Pipi Mitrojorgji
    Thoma Deljana
    Taho Sejko
    Sali Ormeni
    Ramadan Xhangolli
    Nesti Kerenxhi
    Nesti Nase
    Muhamer Spahiu
    Llambi Peēini
    Maqo Ēomo
    Pirro Gusho


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    Sadik Bekteshi, revolucionari konseguent antifashist, u dėnua me burgim tė gjatė 25 vjeēar pasi ishte dėnuar sė pari nga gjyqi mbretėror nė vitin 1939 dhe mė vonė nga fashistėt nė Ventotene. Ai vlerėsohet si komandanti guximtar, politikani dhe prijėsi i shquar i zonės sė Veriut, gjenerali akademist me interesa tė gjera ushtarako-shkencore Bekteshi ishte i zgjuari, luftėtari trim, veteran i luftės partizane, dhe drejtuesi ushtarak i pėrmasave shumėdimensionale, komandant i shquar i njėsive tė mėdha dhe sektorėve tė rėndėsishėm tė ushtrisė. Njė tjetėr ushtarak ėshtė Arif Hasko, drejtuesi i matur dhe i ekuilibruar i grupit partizan tė Ēermenikės, organizator i LANĒL pėr rrethin e Elbasanit, diplomati i parė ushtarak i apasionuari i dimensioneve operativo-strategjike. Kadri Hoxha ėshtė mes oficerėve tė lartė. Ai ishte komandant i Brigadės sė I-rė Sulmuese pėr ēlirimin e Tiranės. Trim dhe luftėtar i ēartur njihet edhe Muhamet Prodani, studiuesi, historiani, disidenti konseguent, trim i pamposhtur, luftėtar guximtar demokrat dhe kundėrshtar i diktaturės dhe diktatorit. Nė historinė e ushtrisė sė asaj periudhe ka hyrė dinjitoz edhe Dilaver Radesmi, aviatori i shkėlqyer, pionieri i aviacionit luftarak, komandant i matur dhe realist, i shkolluar si rrallė kush nė kėtė sektor. Po ashtu, edhe studiuesi kokė-ulur, apasionant, i talentuar dhe i palodhur, Edip Ohri shquhet pėr menēuri, elegance, i saktė, i thellė, kosperativ dhe reformator i talentuar i zbulimit ushtarak shqiptar, njohės i pėrsosur i organizimit, taktikės dhe strategjisė tė ushtrive tė huaja. Edhe Andon Sheti tregoi vlera, me karakterin e paepur dhe moralin e ēeliktė dhe shembullor. Ndėrsa Elami Hado la gjurmė si studiues i palodhur, realist dhe i talentuar, oficer me kulturė dhe kėrkesa tė larta bashkėkohore, diplomat serioz dhe pedagog dhe metodist i pėrsosur. Ernest Jakova ėshtė njė tjetėr vlerė nė historinė e ushtarakėve shqiptarė. Ai ishte studiuesi ushtarak sistematik dhe i palodhur dhe me kėrkesa tė larta shkencore, hartuesi i planeve tė mėdha operativo-strategjike dhe hartues i studimeve bashkėkohore ushtarake. Mes personaliteteve tė ushtrisė ėshtė edhe Abdi Mati, njė admiral i shkėlqyer, themeluesi i vėrtetė i Flotės Luftarake Detare bashkėkohore shqiptare, i menēur, i matur dhe intelektuali mė i kompletuar nė detari, i shqetėsuari, i pėrhershėm pėr detarėt, anijet dhe kulturėn detare, i injoruar nga diktatura kur ai ishte mėse i domosdoshėm pėr flotėn. Ai do tė mbetet i paharruari dhe i respektuari nga tė gjithė. Njė tjetėr emėr ėshtė edhe ai i Muharrem Kokomanit, luftėtari partizan veteran, organizator i luftės nė zonėn e Durrėsit, Pezės dhe Shijakut, ushtaraku i matur organizator dhe komandant i shquar i pėrmasave operative. Lista e gjeneralėve tė flakur jashtė profesionit tė tyre tė nderuar dhe tepėr tė vėshtirė si drejtues, komandantė e organizatorė tė zotė pėrfshin edhe figura tė tilla si: Sotir Filto, Bako Dervishi, Baki Starja, Moisi Elezi, Tanush Shyti, Veli Dedi, Qazim Kapisyzi, Faik Take, Sulo Kozeli, Enver Begeja, Maliq Sadushi, Mahmut Agolli, Ndreēi Plasari, Qamil Poda, Dilaver Poēi, Adnand Qatipi, Myslim Keta, Niko Hoxha etj.
    Nė morin e tė ndėshkaurve nga radhėt e ushtrisė janė edhe: Shaban Reēi, Petrit Manēe, Naim Muho, Josif Zegali, Izet Murati, Sami Meēollari, Tefik Ruēi, Skėnder Malindi, Spiro Adhami, Mujo Sokoli, Xhafer Peēi, Tefik Xhelili, Aqif Ylli, Safet Kurti, Mihallaq Konda, Hajrulla Muhameti, Rako Gjermeni, Thimi Lapi, Shefqet Mezini, Bajo Topulli, Fari Bubesi, Siri Strazimiri, Strefan Luarasi etj. Ata u futėn nė burgje apo u persekutuan ndonėse ishin tė pėrgatitur e tė shkolluar pėrsosmėrisht dhe kishin njė stazh tė lakmueshėm nė drejtimin dhe organizimin e njėsive dhe reparteve gjitharmėshe apo tė llojeve tė armėve dhe shėrbimeve.

    U dėnua rėndė i miri, i urti, i ndershmi, i maturi, pėrherė i ekuilibruari nė marrėdhėniet me vartėsit dhe eprorėt organizator dhe drejtues i njėsive tė mėdha strategjike dhe sektorėve tepėr tė rėndėsishėm tė forcave tė armatosura (njeriu qė nuk u nervozua kurrė nga situata tejet tė tensionuara) gjenerali Rrahman Parllaku, komunikuesi. U ndėshkua edhe Koli Mborja, i dashuri me njerėzit dhe drejtues i kulturuar ushtarak i niveleve tė larta. Et’hem Gjinushi ėshtė njė tjetėr kapacitet. Ai ishte luftėtari guximtar, organizator antifashist i orėve tė para dhe atentatori trim, drejtues ushtarako-politik me kėrkesa tė larta profesionale, kundėrshtar i regjimit diktatorial qysh nė fillimet e para. Askush nuk mund tė harrojė as Ziqiri Meron, i menēuri, i ndershmi, i drejti dhe komunikues me vartėsit dhe eprorėt si rrallėkush, njeriu fjalėmbėl dhe i kujdesshėm, luftėtar veteran i regjur. Mes tyre ėshtė edhe Nikollaq Sallabanda, komandant serioz, drejtues pėrherė i preokupuar pėr gatishmėrinė e njėsisė, specialist i madh i fortifikimeve dhe pėrgatitjes luftarake, antifashist konseguent, intelektual elegant dhe piktor me shije tė holla artistike, drejtues i pėrmasave operative-strategjike. Ndėrsa Thoma Xhixho shquhet si drejtues dhe specialist i pėrgatitjes luftarake tė ushtrisė dhe komandant me aftėsi tė shkėlqyera, drejtuese i njėsive tė mėdha dhe institucioneve pedagogjike ushtarake, luftėtar trim dhe organizator. Tė gjithė ne nuk mund ta harrojmė as oficerin e mrekullueshėm dhe specialistin kimist mė tė mirė dhe mė tė pėrgatitur i ushtrisė, Dhori Gjonin, drejtues i drejtė dhe i ndershėm i kėtij shėrbimi; As Sadri Sokolin, specialistin e kulturuar dhe trim tė industrisė ushtarake, oficerin e ndritur dhe pishtarin e demokracisė dhe ushtrisė. Nė historinė e ushtrisė shqiptare padyshim ka hyrė nė kujtesė edhe Stravri Treska, specialisti i mrekullueshėm i trupave kufitare, operatori i kulturuar si askush tjetėr, elegant dhe i pėrpiktė nė kryerjen e detyrave tė rangut tė lartė operative-strategjik; po ashtu, edhe ushtaraku model i dimensioneve shtatmadhore, shef i saktė shtabi deri nė shtatmadhori, pedagogu me dije tė gjera akademike dhe i respektuar Llazi Angjeli. Edhe Petrit Ēobani ėshtė njė tjetėr vlerė. Ai ishte inxhinieri virtuoz dhe praktiku i pėrpiktė, oficeri i poligonit dhe i hartave, komunikues i mrekullueshėm me vartėsit dhe kuadrot e terrenit. Ndėrsa Mendu Tetova ishte oficeri i kompletuar, njohės i rrallė i stėrvitjes sė vogėl dhe pėrgatitjes sė madhe tė shtabeve, kėrkues rigoroz dhe elegant nė kryerjen e detyrave. Astrit Nishani ka mbetur nė memorie si pėrpikti, si rrallė kush, i disiplinuar dhe korrekt, njohės i veēantė i rregulloreve bazė tė ushtrisė sonė por edhe atyre tė huaja, klasik nė njohuri, por edhe aq klasik nė aplikim. Njė disident i vėrtetė ėshtė edhe Xhafer Matuka, artilieri i talentuar, shkrimtar dhe guximtar i rrallė, luftėtar i vendosur pėr pėrdorimin shkencor dhe racional tė artilerisė bregdetare, matematicient i zoti. Tė njėjtat vlera shfaqi edhe Xhemal Zeneli qė ka qenė luftėtar veteran partizan, guximtar i internuar nė Porto Romano, njohės i vėrtetė i poligonit, shtabit dhe jetės sė ushtarit, i pamposhtur dhe kundėrshtar i padrejtėsive. Mes oficerėve tė ushtrisė tonė nuk mund tė harrohet as poeti, shkrimtari, disidenti, Trifon Xhaxhika, i dėnuar me pushkatim, oficer i kulturuar dhe njohės i saktė i profesionit tė artilerisė kundėrajrore: As studiuesi serioz dhe i apasionuar pėr punėn e shtabeve njėsive tė bashkuara, eleganti dhe kėmbėngulėsi Rustem Haxhia. Halim Ramohito ėshtė njė tjetėr personalitet. Ai shquhej pėr ndershmėrinė, ishte i disiplinuar, komunikues i rrallė me njerėzit, drejtues politik i rangjeve tė larta, edukator bashkėkohor i vartėsve, gjeneral kėrkues ndaj vetes dhe vartėsve. Edhe Jorgo Plaku ėshtė njė veteran i luftės Antifashiste Nacionalēlirimtare, ndėr ilegalėt e parė shqiptar, trim e guximtar, i vendosur, militant i menēur dhe drejtues largpamės, trim, kontestator konsperativ dhe kundėrshtar i regjimit dhe diktatorit, studiues me aftėsi tė veēanta, akademist me horizont operativo-strategjik. Ndėrsa Panajot Plaku mbetet i paharruar si komandant i talentuar njėsish tė mėdha, akademist i kulturuar, komandant me kėrkesa tė larta. I saktė, i edukuar dhe shtabist klasik por edhe bashkėkohor ishte edhe Xhemal Punavia. Njė nga pionierėt e parė tė zbulimit shqiptar, virtuoz, i qetė, dinak, elegant dhe i palodhur nė futjen e formave dhe metodave bashkėkohore tė tipit “Marins”, “Llok” e “Karate” qysh nė agimin e kėtyre fillimeve ka qenė edhe Llazi Jakova. Ndėrsa Ebehet Gorishti ėshtė fiksuar nė memorie si njohės i rrallė i stėrvitjes sė vogėl taktike, rreshtore, fiskulturore, boksmujore, luftim trup me trup, karate, xhuda, pedagog, psikolog dhe studiues i palodhur ushtarak. Nuk mund tė lihet jashtė kėsaj liste as Ibrahim Pajova, komunikues, pėrherė novator, hokatar elegant dhe i papėrtuar, komandant dhe pedagog i pėrpiktė. Njė tjetėr ushtarak ėshtė edhe Aleko Koka, njohės i pėrsosur i mjeteve tė blinduara, shtabist i kulturuar, komandant i zoti dhe drejtues i rangjeve tė mėdha, studiues me horizont tė gjerė i kapaciteteve operativo-strategjikė dhe me tė dhėna tė plota ushtarako-shkencore.
    Qabir Zeneli njihet si i saktė, sistematik, i urtė dhe rebel pėr nga natyra si ushtarak, shtabist dhe komandant, studiues, tepėr guximtar nė shtrimin e problemeve. Artilier i kompletuar, takticien dhe energjik nė shtrimin e problemeve komunikues ishte edhe Arjan Qirjaku, i pėrsosur me vartėsit dhe eprorėt, elegant nė shtrimin e problemeve tė mprehta dhe situatat e vėshtira, drejtues i pėrmasave tė mėdha. Tė paharruar janė edhe studiuesit, historianėt, me botime serioze, pedagogėt me horizont bashkėkohor, shkencėtarėt me vizione tė gjera dhe metodologji tė pėrpiktė shkencore, me tituj shkencorė dhe drejtues katedrash: Shahin Leka, Skėnder Isaku, Tahir Tahiraj, Kadri Ēenolli. Nė historinė e ushtrisė janė edhe specialistėt e pėrsosur tė profesionit tė artilierit, metodistėt e mrekullueshėm, planizues tė shkėlqyer hokatarė dhe elegantė nė zbatimin e detyrave shumė tė rėndėsishme nė dikastere; Faja Novi, Ridvan Dishnica, Sadik Rama; apo oficerėt gjitharmėsh, njohės tė pėrsosur tė poligonit, kabinetit mėsimor, shtabit dhe grupeve mėsimore tė tillė si; Vangjel Nasto, Sami Haderi. Me ideale demokratike ishte edhe tankist modest, Ilo Sofroni, me kulturė dhe disiplinė tė lartė profesionale, kundėrshtar i regjimit diktatorial. Ndėrsa Lefter Kasneci ėshtė antifashist partizan i orėve tė para, studiues i kulturuar, teoricien historian i apasionuar dhe drejtues i zoti i njėsive tė mėdha. Nė morinė e emrave nuk ke sesi tė mos vlerėsosh as Kristo Peēanin, komandant njėsie, i apasionuar dhe autoritar, shtabist me kulturė dhe kėrkues ndaj vetes dhe vartėsve; as Gaqo Pojani, i maturi, kėrkuesi, novatori mjeshtėri i mrekullueshėm i armatimit dhe municioneve, specialist me kėrkesa tė jashtėzakonshme dhe i saktė si rrallėkush. Mendu Backa ėshtė njė tjetėr vlerė. Ai ishte xhenieri dhe inxhinieri guximtar dhe i menēur, drejtues i matur dhe i panxituar i pėrmasave shtatmadhore, “Hero i Punės”. Do tė mbetet gjithmonė si atentator trim antifashist edhe Mitat Luēi, ushtarak i pėrgatitur i niveleve tė larta tė shtabeve tė prapavijave. Personalitetet e ushtrisė kanė nė zemėr edhe Teme Sejkon, luftėtari trim i Ēamėrisė, shtabist i pėrsosur, zbulues tepėr i talentuar, komandant i Flotės Luftarake Detare, me horizont bashkėkohor, viktimė e intrigave tė diktatorit.

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    Komandatėt e ushtrisė shqiptare dhe fillimi i genocidit
    Bibliografia e personaliteteve ushtarake nė vite pas Luftės sė Dytė Botėrore

    Prof. As. Dr. Gjergj P. Titani
    Aleksandėr Mihali

    Tahir Voshtina ėshtė njė ndėr ushtarakėt qė njihet pėr maturi, saktėsi, guximtar dhe drejtues nikoqir i prapavijave, njohės i talentuar i profesionit tė vet dhe ekonomisė ushtarake tė niveleve strategjike. Ndėr ekspertėt e ēėshtjeve ushtarake janė edhe Dhimitėr Ruvina dhe Kristaq Shpothi, njohės perfekt tė karburanteve dhe luftėtarė pėr shpėrndarjen strategjike tė tyre nė shkallė vendi; apo Shefqet Pinari dhe Vangjel Nano marinarė shtabist korrekt dhe tė menēur, njohės tė saktė dhe bashkėkohorė tė detarisė, zhvillimit tė flotės sonė dhe vendeve tė tjera. Ndėrsa Dashamir Ohri ėshtė ndėr komandantėt dhe shtabistėt, detari guximtar, i apasionuar, rreshtori elegant si rrallėkush, i rreptė por komunikues me vartėsit dhe eprorėt, oficeri i kulturuar i niveleve tė larta shtatmadhore. Mes vlerave tė ushtrisė janė edhe Astrit Ēobani, Petraq Nasi, Nasi Mandi, inxhinierė automobilistė e tankistė tė pėrgatitur pėr drejtimin e mastebeve shtatmadhore, korrektė e tė dashur; Xhemal Shani ėshtė njėri prej pionerėve tė Flotės Luftarake Detare, komandant guximtar i njėsisė sė parė tė nėndetėsve shqiptar, i rreptė dhe i drejtė. Aziz Hasa ka hyrė nė historinė e Forcave tė Armatosura si organizator i mrekullueshėm, i kulturuar, njohės i shkėlqyer i detarisė, komandant njėsie me autoritet, pedagog dhe komandant i shkollės sė parė tė lartė tė Flotės Luftarake Detare; Tė njėjtat vlera solli edhe shefi elegant dhe autoritar i shtabit tė FLD, i palodhur dhe kėrkues, largpamės dhe studioz, simpatik e i kėndshėm, Mark Plani. Nuk harrohet as Vehip Alikaj, i rreptė, tepėr i pėrgatitur dhe i drejtė, komandant, oficer shtatmadhorie, i pėrpiktė dhe i zoti. Listės sė gjatė tė ushtarkėve i shtohet edhe Vangjel Priftanji, metodik, i saktė i kulturuar dhe kėrkues, oficer gjitharmėsh korrekt dhe pasionant i shkollave ushtarake. I paharruar ėshtė edhe Sami Vinēani, partizani trim, i matur, korrekt, i kulturuar dhe i shkolluar aq shumė, ekselent me vartėsit dhe eprorėt. Nė fushėn e aviacionit ushtarak nuk mund tė mos pėrmendet Haki Jupasi, pilot klasi, i talentuar dhe i matur, komandant i pėrgatitur dhe i kujdesshėm, njohės dhe mjeshtėr i teknikės sė aviacionit. Nė radhė vlerash ėshtė edhe artilieri kundėrajror shembullor, oficeri i disiplinuar, Kiēo Janku, komandant organizator i palodhur, i arsimuar plotėsisht, intelektuar i kompletuar, komandant i AKA sė shtetit, njohės i pėrsosur i raketave KA. Po ashtu, edhe profesori i studimeve ushtarake, Avni Selenica, pedagog i pėrgatitur dhe i urtė, metodist dhe njohės i vėrtetė i teknikės dhe taktikės sė KA. Nė morinė e profesionistėve tė Forcave tė Armatosura janė edhe artilierė me horizont operativo-strategjik organizatorė dhe drejtues kompetent e tė saktė tė rangjeve tė larta: Avni Hakani, Avni Starova, Emin Agolli, Sul Domi, Skėnder Godo. Pertef Myftari ėshtė njė tjetėr ekspert, pilot i pėrpiktė dhe operator i pėrgatitur, shtabist i kulturuar, korrekt dhe guximtar, artilieri mė elegant dhe mė i pėrgatitur nė pikpamje teorike dhe praktike. Ndėrsa Petrit Bazina vlerėsohet si njohės i pėrkryer i psikologjisė sė ushtarit, poligonit, stėrvitjes dhe studiues me kėrkesa bashkėkohore tė mėdha. Nė kėtė shkrim tė karakterit bibliografik nuk mund tė harrohen as guximtarėt, demokratėt, rebelėt dhe tė heshturit, tė panėnshtruar, luftėtarė tė vėrtetė pėr demokraci dhe tė papajtuar me dogmat e diktaturės; Halil Laze, Petro Ēela, Gjergji Pepo, Demir Hasani, Selam Hoxha, Drago Isufi, Filip Tushi, Florenc Rusi, Rustem Dollapi, Jani Lufi, Petrit Vullkani, Xhevat Alibali, Pal Doēi, Nevruz Demiri, Spiro Dede, Verdi Take, Besnik Alibali, Lirim Deda, Enver Lagji, Kristaq Bushaka, Kastriot Ylli, Fadil Toēi, Ndue Jaku, Lavdush Dule, Andon Kote, Kristaq Qarri, Qirjako Deēka, Jani Deēka, Llambi Zguro, Xhelal Novosela, Orest Dhimgjoka, Piro Laska, Stiliano Sallabanda, Stefan Ingjillizi, Drini Bardhi, Hilmi Shtylla, Reiz Sinani, Qani Xhebraj, Koēo Ropi, Koēo Leshnja, Bajram Dervishi, Ēobo Skėnderi, Stavri Qeleshi, Hamza Malaj, Malo Hasaramaj, Fatos Voshtina, Ibrahim Gani, Malo Hashorva, Fuat Ēeliku, Agron Ēomo, Ndreko Ēabeli, Pandi Opari, Xhemal Ymeraj, Jup Stepa, Ali Bana, Zydi Shtraza, Sotir Sterjo, Avni Bare, Vasil Mici, Veiz Bajo, Minella Trebicka, Tasi Bylyku, Fluturak Gėrmenji, Mihallaq Konda, Dalip Xhaboli, Kasem Kurti, Piro Tushi, Shaqo Gjini, Alfred Moisiu, Sofo Dono, Vangjel Olldashi, Jani Ēapo, Skėnder Spahivogli, Jorgji Qiriēi, Dino Berati, Niko Dulaku, Ilo Furxhi, Mehmet Karashabani, Jani Bushi, Kristaq Ndrio, Meēo Starja, Hysej Starja, Kovi Bida, Andon Llaēi, Sali Merkaj, Sotir Budina, Janaq Budina, Kozma Zegali, Skėnder Vinēani, Ziso Dako, Pasho Zhupa, Pasho Alimerko, Rauf Alimerko, Remzi Lelaj, Andon Ēiēani, Demo Liēo, Xhemal Shehu, Ahmet Gjoliku, Thoma Rrota, Stavi Qeleshi, Nevruz Zejnati, Sefedin Fuga, Thoma Laro, Llambi Shore, Valter Mero, Petrit Shehu, Rexhem Myftiu, Naxhi Zhupa, Flamur Gagani, Mihallaq Milkani, Koēo Lubonja, Thanas Ēobo, Novruz Dervishi, Hasko Sinani, Pepe Kantozi, Gaqo Ēollaku, Petraq Kolonjari, Ilo Prifti, Dhimo Dhaskali, Gaqo Jankulla, Hysen Rusi, Piro Gostivishti, Tahir Beja, Xhemal Beja, Stavri Mile, Ismet Demishaj, Irlir Kostollari, Xhemal Dingo, Jaho Stepa, Kristaq Drazha, Enver Dinollari, Kamber Dino, Llazar Kote, Seit Foēi, Bashkim Kozeli, Skėnder Barjaktari, Njazi Manaj etj, etj.

    Ndėshkimi i genocidit

    Ushtrinė dhe luftėn partizane populli shqiptar e pėrjetėsoi nė kėngė e nė valle, ndėrsa kaloboracionistėt kurrė. Populli i ruan nė kujtesėn e tij partizanėt si luftėtarė tė lirisė, trima e rinore; kolaboracionistėt, si tradhėtare tė urryer e pulavjedhės. Populli dhe artistėt e tij i kanė pėrjetėsuar partizanėt dhe Luftėn Antifashistė Nacionalēlirimtare nė mijėra poezi, drama, romane, tregime, piktura, skulptura, lapidare, emra shkollash, institucionesh, etj. Populli po pėrpiqet t’i fshijė nga kujtesa e tij kuislingėt e bashkėpuntorėt e nazifashizmit, por janė rishfaqur e ringritur hijet e tyre dhe ēuditėrisht parlamenti me rutinėn e tij legjislative lejon qė ata jo vetėm tė rishfaqen hera-herės nė publik, por, madje tė bėjnė edhe propagandė antipopullare, antikushtetuese, tė bėjnė thirrje nxitėse pėr urrejtje klasore, duke dalė haptazi kundėr SHBA, Anglisė, Francės dhe sidomos kundėr BRSS si forcat kryesisht Nurenberge tė rinj sot, kur ēuditėrisht i shpėtuan Nurenbergut tė tyre dje. Ata, paturpėsisht, bėrtasin pėr hakmarrje duke qenė tė infektuar nga komplekse inferioriteti, nga kompleksi torturonjės i tė munduarit nė njė kohė qė Shqipėria ka nevojė aq shumė pėr paqe dhe qetėsi sociale. Ata bėrtasin e ēirren pėr gjenocid dhe nuk janė nė gjendje sė pari tė vėrtetojnė ē’ėshtė gjenocidi, (madje, as ortografikisht nuk e shkruajnė drejt), kur ėshtė pėrmendur ky term pėr herė tė parė, etj. Ata harrojnė se Shqipėria, mė 14.12.1995 ėshtė pranuar anėtare e OKB-sė, kur ndėrkohė e mė vonė disa shtete janė pėrjashtuar apo ndėshkuar mė sanksione tė rėnda pėr ushtrimin e gjenocidit, racizmit apo aparteidit nuk ėshtė e nuk ka qenė as Rodezia ku ndaheshin tribute, klanet racore, fiset zezake nga tė bardhėt etj, e as republika e Afrikės sė Jugut ku u praktikua politika dhe praktika e aparteidit apo Kamboxhia e Pol Potit ose bėmat makabre tė hitlerianėve kundėr ēifutėve, polakėve, rusėve, ukrainasve e bjellorusėve.
    Gjenocidi pa dyshim duhet dėnuar. Pėr gjenocidin ashtu si edhe pėr kriminelėt e luftės nuk ka parashkrim ligjor, ata duhen hetuar e dėnuar pa u amnistuar kurrė. Por para sė gjithash duhet vėrtetuar a ka pasur gjenocid, a ėshtė ushtruar gjenocid nė Shqipėri dhe nė FA tė saj.

    Kuptimi i genocidit

    Sė pari ēfarė ėshtė genocidi si dukuri, por edhe si praktikė kriminale? Fjala Genocid ėshtė e ndėrtuar nga dy fjalė: nga fjala greke (Genos) – fis, racė, origjinė, klan, tribu, popull, brez, gjeneratė. Dhe fjalės latine (seado) - vras. Pra, fjalė pėr fjalė do tė thotė vras fisin, tribunė, popullin. Dokumenti i parė ndėrkombėtar juridik ku ndeshet pėrmendja e Gjenocidit ėshtė vendimi i fajėsimit pėrfundimtar nė gjyqin e Nurenbergut pėr dėnimin e kriminelėve kryesorė gjermanė tė luftės mė 1945 si Gringu, Hesi, Kjefili, Denici etj. Nė kėtė dokument cilėsohet se hitlerianėt kanė kryer genocid sistematik tė paramenduar, domethėnė, kanė kryer shfarosje racore, kombėtare me synime zhdukje tė popullsive dhe racave tė veēanta.
    Genocidi ėshtė i lidhur organikisht me teorinė raciste qė propagandojnė urrejtjen racial dhe kombėtare. Genocidi, ashtu si racizmi, drejtohet kundėr racės ose kombėsisė sė huaj. Genocidi ėshtė racizmi nė veprim (Sipas “Fjalorit enciklopedik sovjetik, flaorit “Laus”, Enciklopedisė sė Madhe sovjetike, Enciklopedisė Angleze.)

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    PERSONALITETE TĖ USHTRISĖ

    Tahir Voshtina
    Dhimitėr Ruvina
    Kristaq Shpothi
    Shefqet Pinari
    Vangjel Nano
    Dashamir Ohri
    Astrit Ēobani
    Petraq Nasi
    Nasi Mandi
    Xhemal Shani
    Aziz Hasa
    Mark Plani
    Vehip Alikaj
    Vangjel Priftanji
    Sami Vinēani
    Haki Jupasi
    Kiēo Janku
    Avni Selenica
    Avni Hakani
    Avni Starova
    Emin Agolli
    Sul Domi
    Skėnder Godo
    Pertef Myftari
    Petrit Bazina
    Halil Laze
    Petro Ēela
    Gjergji Pepo
    Demir Hasani
    Selam Hoxha
    Drago Isufi
    Filip Tushi
    Florenc Rusi
    Rustem Dollapi
    Jani Lufi
    Petrit Vullkani
    Xhevat Alibali
    Pal Doēi
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    Arbeni dhe Saliu me ne fund kan vendosur qe te harxhojne ca qindarka per armatim

    http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/arti...ip-to-its-navy

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    Hmmm, kur dalin te gjithe oficeret e ushtrise disidente e kundershtar te diktatures te hapet barku, te vjen per te vjelle.

    Po ku ishin keto disidentet kur populli dergohej gulageve dhe kampeve te perqendrimit me Zis 51 dhe Gaz 69 ??? Ku ishin keto komandante "trima" dhe "guximtare" kur ēlirimtaret bastisnin dhe arrestonin popullin ne qytetet e ripushtuara nga mortja stalinist-komuniste ??? Ku eshte shpirtmadhesia apo shpirti i kameratizmit me koleget dhe vartesit kur zbuloheshin grupet puēiste ???
    Ku ishin trimat sypetrita e hundzhgaba kur diktatori i ēnderoi me heqjen e gradave ???

    Gjeneral pa spaleta vetem nje gjeneral i zene rob eshte ...

    Nuk jane gje tjeter vetem se bashkepuntore te diktatures dhe diktatorit teksa parakalonin ne bulevardin qendror.

    Ushtri per te mbrojtur popullin ??? Une them se ishte ushtri per te trembur e shtypur popullin ...

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    Qe te mos vazhdozh te genjesh akoma ! Shikoji padronet e tu se kur i kane marre Mig 29 etj. Shikoje mire i kane marre ne 1986-ten .

    Te gjithe avionet qe kane patur ne perdorim , kane qene teknologjikisht me poshte se tanet ! Ketu nuk po flas per plehrat e tyre Yugosllave , qe i prodhonin vete , se as per qerre nuk benin !
    Ata kane kene padronet e tu se ju vut tringjyrshin jugosllav ne kampanjel te kishes franceskane ne Shkoder, Enveri yt propagandonte bashkim e vellazerim me sllavet e jugut, ju shkembenit me udb-ne shqiptaret e kosoves me ata te shqipnise te arratisun. Gjyshat tuj kendonin "enver, koci ka pare enderr, shqiperine nuse titon dhenderr"


    ke ba 20 postime kilometrike me thane ate qi permblodha ma siper

    kena pase
    12 cope Chengdu J-7 kineze te 1966-es, qe jane kopja e mig 21.
    72 Shenyang J-6 te 1961-shit, kopja e mig 19
    1 skuadrilje mig 17 te 1952-shit
    nji numer te konsiderueshem mig 15 te 1947-es
    4 aviona trasporti sovjetike Ilyushin Il-12 te 1945-es

    Jugosllavet mig 29 e kan marre ne 87-en? Pra e pranon qe 87-91 ushtria jone legjendare paska qene inferiore se ne vazhdonim me kopjen kneze te mig 21.
    Por nuk permend me stil mig 23, mig 25, mig 27 qe kishin fqinjet perpara, perveē atyre qe prodhonin vete. Me logjike mig 23, 25, 27, duke qene se jane prodhu ma vone jane ma te perparum se mig 21 apo jo?

    Citim Postuar mė parė nga bamatat Lexo Postimin
    Ketu po flitet se ushtria shqiptare jo vetem ishte suficente te mbronte vendin e vet , por dhe te siguronte mbeshtetje per trojet etnike , per t'i marre ato me force kur te ishin kushtet
    Nuk u plotsun kurre kto kushte ne 50 vjet....

    Nuk mundet te pretendosh qe ishte me e mira ne bote dhe me e pajisura !

    Por ishte nga me te fortat dhe te pathyeshmet ! Fqinjet as nuk i kishte ne diskutim !

    Te gjithe armatimin , pavaresisht se hynte tek modernet per kohen , neve nuk e prodhonim vete ! As mundet t'i kerkoje Shqiperise qe brenda 30 vjetesh , nga anlfabetizmi 98% , te prodhonte avione moderne dhe te konkurronte ne prodhimin e tyre . Cfare po flasim ? Me delire ?
    E lejm si thu ti
    Atehere mbasi u prishem me Ruset e Kinezet ku i merrnim armatimin modern per kohen qe thu ti?

    Nuk e shiste ne pazar per nje torbe miser dhe aq me pak ta shkaterronte sic u be me ushtrine e vendit .
    Ca shkaterroi mor? Po kujt i duhem armatimet e viteve 60?
    Sot je ne NATO o bame, vjen ai tigri prej letre qe thua tine e te shpeton bethen, se ne nuk kena si me pase armatime te kohes kur nuk kena buke
    Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga puroshkodran : 22-09-2011 mė 12:58

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    Kembesoria ka nevoje te menjehershme per riarmatim modern personal dhe ne mjete te blinduara te shpejta per natyren e konceptimit te ushtrise.

    Roja Bregdetare duhet kompletuar me skafe te shpejte dhe te fuqishem duke pasur parasysh eksperiencen e Shqiprise me kontrabanden detare. Nevojiten te pakten 6 cope.

    Aviacionit i nevojiten helikoptere luftarak sulmi per mbeshtetjen e kembsorise. Minimumi 8 cope. Gjithashtu te nevojshem jane edhe 3 skuadrilje avionesh kapes-gjuajtes. Avionet mund te merren edhe ne leasing.

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    Kembesoria ka nevoje te menjehershme per riarmatim modern personal dhe ne mjete te blinduara te shpejta per natyren e konceptimit te ushtrise.

    Roja Bregdetare duhet kompletuar me skafe te shpejte dhe te fuqishem duke pasur parasysh eksperiencen e Shqiprise me kontrabanden detare. Nevojiten te pakten 6 cope.

    Aviacionit i nevojiten helikoptere luftarak sulmi per mbeshtetjen e kembsorise. Minimumi 8 cope. Gjithashtu te nevojshem jane edhe 3 skuadrilje avionesh kapes-gjuajtes. Avionet mund te merren edhe ne leasing.
    Mire e the, po kujt ja the se ? Mer vesh Braro Berisha me Drague & Co ? Ju eshte bere mendja vec Sali dhe te gjithe te tjeret qe ankohen per dicka i quajn komuniste !

    Shteti yne ka pikerisht nevoje per gjithcka qe ti shkruajte me lart bile edhe me shume nese eshte e mundur dhe jo te lihet ne nje dore halli qe vetem vende si Senegali apo Malia i kane ushtrit primitive. Jemi edhe vend ne NATO pale

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    Ata kane kene padronet e tu se ju vut tringjyrshin jugosllav ne kampanjel te kishes franceskane ne Shkoder, Enveri yt propagandonte bashkim e vellazerim me sllavet e jugut, ju shkembenit me udb-ne shqiptaret e kosoves me ata te shqipnise te arratisun. Gjyshat tuj kendonin "enver, koci ka pare enderr, shqiperine nuse titon dhenderr"


    ke ba 20 postime kilometrike me thane ate qi permblodha ma siper

    kena pase
    12 cope Chengdu J-7 kineze te 1966-es, qe jane kopja e mig 21.
    72 Shenyang J-6 te 1961-shit, kopja e mig 19
    1 skuadrilje mig 17 te 1952-shit
    nji numer te konsiderueshem mig 15 te 1947-es
    4 aviona trasporti sovjetike Ilyushin Il-12 te 1945-es

    Jugosllavet mig 29 e kan marre ne 87-en? Pra e pranon qe 87-91 ushtria jone legjendare paska qene inferiore se ne vazhdonim me kopjen kneze te mig 21.
    Por nuk permend me stil mig 23, mig 25, mig 27 qe kishin fqinjet perpara, perveē atyre qe prodhonin vete. Me logjike mig 23, 25, 27, duke qene se jane prodhu ma vone jane ma te perparum se mig 21 apo jo?


    Nuk u plotsun kurre kto kushte ne 50 vjet....


    E lejm si thu ti
    Atehere mbasi u prishem me Ruset e Kinezet ku i merrnim armatimin modern per kohen qe thu ti?


    Ca shkaterroi mor? Po kujt i duhem armatimet e viteve 60?
    Sot je ne NATO o bame, vjen ai tigri prej letre qe thua tine e te shpeton bethen, se ne nuk kena si me pase armatime te kohes kur nuk kena buke
    Nuk prisja pergjigje tjeter , pasi u zure dhjete here me presh ne b.... duke genjyer dhe duke bere propoganden e serbit dhe te grekut ! Te kam thene UDB-ash ! Ti e mohon me fjale por ketu flet pikerisht fjalet e UDB-s ! Prandaj te thashe qe je UDB-ash !

    Keto jane propoganda e Jugosllaveve qe nga 1948-ta dhe nuk habitem qe i degjoj nga goja jote !Ti dhe ata rrinin me pampers gjithe kohen nga frika e ushtrise shqiptare ! Ndersa tani qe kutjoni se ajo ka ngordhur , jeni trimeruar dhe as nuk beni perpjekje te fshiheni ......

    Mire ben dhe mire beni se te pakten kesaj here ju kemi perballe !

    nuk do te vonoj dita qe shqiptaret do ta rimarrin shtetin e tyre nga duart tuaja , dhe pastaj , dua te ta degjoj serish zerin .....dhe kakarisjen ......
    Ndryshuar pėr herė tė fundit nga bamatat : 22-09-2011 mė 15:53

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    bamatat je i pa burrni.
    nuk diskuton burri si kurve tu i ba bisht muhabetit. pergjigju pytjes se ku i merrje armatimet moderne mbasi nderpreve marrdhaniet me gjithe boten.

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